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Title: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: auntiemus on April 23, 2010, 01:06:29 AM
now that my europe trip aint happening, Iwould like to plan a trip in the summer to Hawaii with my husband. few questions:
1. it seems like LIH is the best island?
2. I would not be doing any water ectiviteis that arent 100% tznius, is there still what to do in Hawaii?
3. after LIH, where else is sugeested?
4. How can I get a hotel with points? I dont have starwood, I only have 30,000 AMEX MR points


any help greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: BrooklynCPA on April 23, 2010, 10:21:05 AM
I am planning a trip sometime in the future to Hawaii. I was always under the impression that it is not worth the trip from NY to Hawaii unless you go for at least 10 days and visit at least 2 islands.

Dan, what is you thought on this?

Pslams, as you went from Sunday to Thursday was it worth it? Also, as Dan and others helped you can you post a trip report?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2010, 10:29:20 AM
now that my europe trip aint happening, Iwould like to plan a trip in the summer to Hawaii with my husband. few questions:
1. it seems like LIH is the best island?
2. I would not be doing any water ectiviteis that arent 100% tznius, is there still what to do in Hawaii?
3. after LIH, where else is sugeested?
4. How can I get a hotel with points? I dont have starwood, I only have 30,000 AMEX MR points


any help greatly appreciated!
I split this thread off to create a master thread for question about Hawaii.

-There is no best island. Ask 6 people and they will each give you a different answer.  It all depends on what you want to do.
The main airports serving each island are:
HNL for Oahu, the most populous island and where 90% of tourists go.
Lots of tourist activities, kosher food is available, Chabad has a great location here within walking distance of most Honolulu-Waikiki hotels.  It's very pretty as soon as you leave Honolulu, but it's a bit too touristy for my taste.

OGG for Maui, the 2nd most popular island for tourists.  A beautiful island with lush flowing waterfalls along the most beautiful drive you'll ever take-the road to Hana.  The view from on top of Haleakala is incredible.  Tons of water sports.  Great whale watching boats in the winter.  There's a chabad house by the airport, but few hotels are nearby.

LIH for Kauai, a much more laid back island.  Much less developed than Oahu and Maui.  I think it's the most beautiful, green and lush of the islands.  It has few roads, so a helicopter tour is the primary way of seeing the hidden sights.  Some of the best hikes I've ever done are on Kauai.  The Na Pali Coast and Waimea Canyon will take your breath away.  Miles of deserted beaches on the west coast on Polihale beach.  And I love the Grand Hyatt here and the tree tunnel you drive through to get there.

KOA for the west side of the big island of Hawaii. Some of the best beaches in Hawaii are here.  You can drive from the beach to snow in an hour.  Sunset from on top of Mauna Kea, the tallest mountain in the world from its base, was the most beautiful I've ever seen.  The big island is much less green and lush than the other islands.

ITO for the east side of the big island of Hawaii.  Seeing a volcano erupt is awesome!!! It's been erupting constantly for the past 25 years! Hiking through forests and then lava that ate the forest and back again is something you won't quickly forget.  Volcanically heated warm springs are a lot of fun as well.  There is a lot of rain on this side of the big island.

LNY for Lanai: A much smaller private island with few hotels...never been here.
MKK for Molokai: never been here either, also no big-name resorts.

-There is plenty what to do without water activities, and if you know where to go you can have your own private beach as well.
-You can trade people AMEX points for Starwood and Hyatt points, but 30,000 might not get you too far in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2010, 10:35:55 AM
I am planning a trip sometime in the future to Hawaii. I was always under the impression that it is not worth the trip from NY to Hawaii unless you go for at least 10 days and visit at least 2 islands.

Dan, what is you thought on this?

Pslams, as you went from Sunday to Thursday was it worth it? Also, as Dan and others helped you can you post a trip report?
I think 10 days is the least amount of time for an ideal trip, but you can definitely make a go of it if you fly out sunday and return on the thursday night redeye.
I would stick to one island though on such a short trip.
Continental flies nonstop from EWR to HNL which is very convenient.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: auntiemus on April 23, 2010, 11:22:57 AM
thank you so much! my husband also just got 30,000 amexmr points, would 60,000 be enough?

should I transfer them to points reward or hilton?

thank you for your time
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: BrooklynCPA on April 23, 2010, 11:28:03 AM
My ideal trip would be something like this: Fly in beginning of the week to Maui for 4 days, Friday and shabbos in Oahu (tour of Peal Harbor on Friday and shabbos at chabad) , then Sunday through Tuesday evening in Kawui at the Hyatt, then Hilo through Thursday not to miss the volcano's.....

Another option would be to take a seven Island Cruise to have a base with kosher food and get a piece of many islands.

Dan, What do you think??

If I only have 1 week i'd rather go to a place like cancun, aruba...... I think it pays to save Hawaii for when you have a minimum of 10 days!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2010, 06:08:43 PM
Also worth noting if you are staying at a Hyatt you can book any activities (Helicopter, Scuba, Kayak, etc.) and charge them to your room.
You can then buy Hyatt GC's at Costco at a 20% discount to pay for them.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2010, 06:09:45 PM
thank you so much! my husband also just got 30,000 amexmr points, would 60,000 be enough?

should I transfer them to points reward or hilton?

thank you for your time
You can trade them to hilton or priority club but you'll only get 1 night that way.
You'll be better off looking for a trading partner to get Hyatt or Starwood points for your AMEX points.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: auntiemus on April 25, 2010, 03:45:46 AM
thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Daniel on April 25, 2010, 06:55:32 AM
Also worth noting if you are staying at a Hyatt you can book any activities (Helicopter, Scuba, Kayak, etc.) and charge them to your room.
You can then buy Hyatt GC's at Costco at a 20% discount to pay for them.

Are the activities highly overpriced or are there some good deals? That was always my hesitation going to Hawaii-- the flight and hotel may be free, but the activities would be very expensive and anything free is not so tznius except maybe hiking or just driving around and seeing the sights
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 25, 2010, 07:18:43 AM
Are the activities highly overpriced or are there some good deals? That was always my hesitation going to Hawaii-- the flight and hotel may be free, but the activities would be very expensive and anything free is not so tznius except maybe hiking or just driving around and seeing the sights

In Maui there are plenty of gorgeous beaches with not a person in sight. Just pull over off the main highway.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Daniel on April 25, 2010, 07:28:24 AM
In Maui there are plenty of gorgeous beaches with not a person in sight. Just pull over off the main highway.

I don't know about your wife or if you have one, but mine wouldn't go swimming in public even if there is "no one in sight" however, I guess it's still nice to sit on the beach :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: damaxer91 on April 25, 2010, 10:26:25 AM
I don't know about your wife or if you have one, but mine wouldn't go swimming in public even if there is "no one in sight" however, I guess it's still nice to sit on the beach :)

These beaches are public but have limited access. We tried several of them while we were there and did not bump into a soul. I am not your Rabbi nor your wife, but if you are looking for peace and quiet you'll definitely find that
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2010, 05:29:37 PM
My ideal trip would be something like this: Fly in beginning of the week to Maui for 4 days, Friday and shabbos in Oahu (tour of Peal Harbor on Friday and shabbos at chabad) , then Sunday through Tuesday evening in Kawui at the Hyatt, then Hilo through Thursday not to miss the volcano's.....

Another option would be to take a seven Island Cruise to have a base with kosher food and get a piece of many islands.

Dan, What do you think??

If I only have 1 week i'd rather go to a place like cancun, aruba...... I think it pays to save Hawaii for when you have a minimum of 10 days!

I think that trying to go to all 4 islands in 10 days is overly optimistic.  Sure you'll have hit all the islands but you'll be exhausted and not even had the chance to even touch the surface of each island.  Unless this is going to be the last time in your life that you'll be going to Hawaii spend 10 days on 2 islands and relish the next chance you'll have to do it again.

I've never been to Cancun, but from what I understand about those places is that there's little else to do besides the beach.  In Hawaii there's just so much more and it's so much more beautiful.  And best of all your cell phone works better than it does down the street and the money is the same.

There is kosher food available on Oahu and it can even be delivered to the other islands:
http://www.oahukosher.com/delivery.htm#

The Hyatt in Maui also has a kosher menu.

When my wife and I spent 3.5 weeks in Hawaii after we got married we made all of the food before we left and froze it.  We went to 4 islands on that trip.  At each hotel we would take out what we needed for that week and had the hotel freeze the suitcase with the rest of the food.  We had a simple burner from rite aid to heat up the food.


 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2010, 05:34:10 PM
Are the activities highly overpriced or are there some good deals? That was always my hesitation going to Hawaii-- the flight and hotel may be free, but the activities would be very expensive and anything free is not so tznius except maybe hiking or just driving around and seeing the sights
On my last trip I think we did just one paid activity (rented a kayak for $30).  There's plenty to do for free even if a secluded beach isn't your thing.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Daniel on April 25, 2010, 06:01:27 PM
On my last trip I think we did just one paid activity (rented a kayak for $30).  There's plenty to do for free even if a secluded beach isn't your thing.

When you have some time please share more free activities...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2010, 06:04:13 PM
When you have some time please share more free activities...
Which island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: auntiemus on April 25, 2010, 10:07:33 PM
the one with the best activities :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 25, 2010, 10:08:55 PM
the one with the best activities :)
Lol...that's quite subjective!
Read the quick summary that I wrote earlier in this thread or read the trip reports that I've written...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: auntiemus on April 25, 2010, 11:36:54 PM
LIH
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 27, 2010, 10:15:20 AM
LIH
Free stuff on LIH:
-Check out my Kauai trip report:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6088
-Get a convertible! Just breathing in the incredibly fresh air of Kauai  and being surrounded by the greenery, mountains, and ocean are my biggest pleasures on Kauai.
-You can spend days hiking in beautiful Waimea Canyon.
-The most famous hike in Hawaii is the Kalalau trail where you can hike the Na Pali coastline.
-Find a private stretch of beach out by Polihale.
-Check out the accessible waterfalls like Wailua and Opaeka (most other Kauai waterfalls require hikes/helicopter)
Take the driving tour of Kauai as laid out in Kauai Revealed (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0981461018?ie=UTF8&tag=pp044-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0981461018) It would be a shame to go to any Hawaiian island without the appropriate "revealed" book for each island.  This is not like any other guidebook you've ever read.
-If you're at the Grand Hyatt Kauai take advantage of all of their free activities, like learning how to Scuba, etc.
-Snorkel with the amazing fish, whales, huge green sea turtles, and monk seals!
-There's a nice blowhole to see, but not as impressive as the one on Maui.

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 27, 2010, 10:18:37 AM
Links to Hawaiian Chabad houses:

-Honolulu, Oahu (HNL) (http://www.chabadofhawaii.com/)
Good links for prepared kosher foods and shabbos meals.  Don't forget to buy their inexpensive Hawaiian kippa when you visit, it'll get compliments from everyone on Hawaii and also makes for a great gift!

-Kahalui, Maui (OGG) (http://www.jewishmaui.com/)
Good links for supermarkets with kosher food.  Their link to Mana foods saved us $$$, great place to shop on Maui!  And the Rabbi there is incredible, definitely give him a call to offer to bring hard-to-get kosher items and he'll reciprocate warmly!  There is a mikvah here as well.

-Kona, Hawaii (KOA) (http://www.chabadbigisland.com/)
Also operates out of Hilo, Hawaii (ITO) one shabbos per month

-Kilauea, Kauai (LIH) (http://www.jewishkauai.org/)
The Kauai chabad house currently only operates on yomim tovim.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: auntiemus on April 27, 2010, 10:58:11 AM
thanks! when you have a chance, can you write up on Maui?

what is the best way to get a convertable?

is 2,500 delta miles a day good for an economy rent a car?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: auntiemus on April 28, 2010, 12:52:26 AM
Which Hyatt is better Maui or Kaui?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2010, 01:07:19 AM
Which Hyatt is better Maui or Kaui?
While there will always be a debate if Maui or Kauai is better there is no debate here, the Grand Hyatt Kauai is much better than Hyatt Regency Maui.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 30, 2010, 01:34:39 PM
Quote from: Anon
1) Is the only shabbos minyan in Hawaii in Oahu? Which SPG would you recommend that is near the shul (assuming there is availability there for shabbos.
2) Would you recommend spending shabbos in Maui rather than Oahu? Is there any minyan or kosher food there?
3) Can AA, United, Delta and Continental miles be used for inter-island flights? If yes, how many miles is it? Is availability generally easy?
4) Does the GH Kauai have any kosher food in the lounges or at meals like the PH Paris does?
Someone emailed me these questions, so I figured I'd tackle them here where other people might also have the same questions...



There is a chabad house on Oahu (http://www.chabadofhawaii.com/), Maui (http://www.jewishmaui.com/shabbat.php), Kauai (http://www.jewishkauai.org/), and the Big Island. (http://www.chabadbigisland.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/1128422/jewish/Shabbat.htm)

Oahu has the most consistent minyan, you'll have to call the others to ask if they have a shabbos minyan when you plan on going.

The SPG properties in HNL can be problematic.  The Westin is incredible (They upgraded us to a massive oceanfront suite!) but the staircases all have motion sensors which turn the lights on.  They'll be glad to send someone up to take you down the elevator or even trip the staircase sensors, but you'll have to ask your rov about that.

The Sheraton also has the staircase problem although we found one service staircase that didn't have the sensors, but that was a few years ago.  You'll want to call and find out what the current situation is.

Chabad on Maui is in Kahalui, away from the major resorts, but you may find some "airport hotels" within walking distance.  You can always call the shliach there (who is a GREAT guy) for more info.

Our favorite shabbos was the one we spent in the Grand Hyatt on Kauai.  Kauai just has a spiritual feeling that is like nowhere else I've ever been...too beautiful for words.

You can get kosher food from Oahu Kosher (http://www.oahukosher.com/index.htm) and they deliver to any island, but personally we brought our own food with us.

You should also be able to buy kosher food from the shluchim on Maui.
The Hyatt in Maui also has kosher airline meals that are actually pretty decent.

You can use miles for inter-island flights with any airline.  Pretty much everyone charges 10,000 miles. AA allows one-ways for 5,000 miles. Most airlines are partners with both Hawaiian and IslandAir.  Continental allows stopover, so you can book HNL-OGG-LIH-HNL for example for 10,000 miles.  Continental is also the only one that lets you book online to avoid a phone booking fee, but you can't book stopover awards online.  I have had some success getting Continental to waive the phone fee though when I speak to the CO.com desk (http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/3250) and tell them I tried to book online but wasn't able to.

I also have a Corporate Hawaiian Airlines account that gives 2 free bags and free flight changes and standby if anyone wants to book it that way...

We didn't look for food in the Grand Club in the Grand Hyatt Kauai, but I know "eliteflyer" did and found a ton of kosher stuff. Perhaps he'll chime in here with what he found.

Safe travels!



Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Jgraj on August 06, 2010, 12:43:51 PM
hey dan,

someone just told me about your forum, i have been reading for like an hour, and its awesome!
i need major help booking a last minute trip to hawaii.  my wife and i are planning to go on wedn (in 5 days!).  we have free flights.
first of all, from reading a little bit i think i want to spend 5-6 days in both maui and kauai.  i read you recommend the GH kauai but its all booked up.  anything other hotels you suggest there? 
can you get kosher bread and cheese and stuff like that in the local supermarkets on those islands?
i have more questions, but im gonna start with these.

thanks,
josh
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2010, 02:05:57 PM
hey dan,

someone just told me about your forum, i have been reading for like an hour, and its awesome!
i need major help booking a last minute trip to hawaii.  my wife and i are planning to go on wedn (in 5 days!).  we have free flights.
first of all, from reading a little bit i think i want to spend 5-6 days in both maui and kauai.  i read you recommend the GH kauai but its all booked up.  anything other hotels you suggest there? 
can you get kosher bread and cheese and stuff like that in the local supermarkets on those islands?
i have more questions, but im gonna start with these.

thanks,
josh
Diamond members can sometimes get hotels to make space for them, what is your budget for rooms?
How long will you be in Hawaii altogether? Did you book tickets yet?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on August 06, 2010, 04:49:44 PM
regarding bread. you can get thomas bagels just about anywhere. there are a couple of supermarkets that had a more extensive kosher bread section but i forget which. you can call the chabad they were very helpful. cheese they will have phil cream cheese and such i dont know about more then that cuz i didnt look. but otherwise they have alot of the same goods as elswhere pasta,cereal,chips,snacks,etc..
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Jgraj on August 08, 2010, 03:15:36 PM
we have not booked tickets yet.  our dates are wedn. aug 11th till sun. aug 22nd. 
we don't really have a preference which island to go to first, but we'll do one half on kauai and one half on maui.  for all those dates i could not get a room in GH kauai, but in maui i could get a room in the second half.  if you could get a room that would be amazing!  can you fly into either island from ny?
i have been reading your longer forum responses for things to do within the towns.
should we rent a car on both islands or just kauai? 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2010, 08:22:41 PM
we have not booked tickets yet.  our dates are wedn. aug 11th till sun. aug 22nd. 
we don't really have a preference which island to go to first, but we'll do one half on kauai and one half on maui.  for all those dates i could not get a room in GH kauai, but in maui i could get a room in the second half.  if you could get a room that would be amazing!  can you fly into either island from ny?
i have been reading your longer forum responses for things to do within the towns.
should we rent a car on both islands or just kauai? 
Are you using miles or a paid ticket to get there?

You'll definitely need to rent a car on Maui or Kauai.  With 12 nights I might recommend spending two nights on the Big island to see a volcano erupting, dip in a volcanically heated pond, and see a sunset from the summit of a mountain taller than everest from its base.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Jgraj on August 08, 2010, 10:50:56 PM
We are flying with miles on Continental in and out of Maui.  Leaving NY on the 11th (wedn), return flight on the 23rd (mon).  It's 140,000 miles for the 2 of us.  We haven't yet booked flights in between the islands, so we're flexible on which island we do first.  You also recommended that we go to the Big Island of Hawaii for a night or two. 
We have been unsuccessful at getting a room at GH kauai and GH maui!  If you could help us get rooms that would be amazing!  When would you recommend in our trip we try and go to the Big Island?  I am just nervous it is a lot of flying and not so relaxing, do you strongly recommend that extra trip?  Are flights expensive between islands?
Thanks so much for the help. 

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Jgraj on August 08, 2010, 10:59:59 PM
sorry if i am a little unclear.  in my mind, best option is to check in at GH kauai on 17/18 and we would check out on 23rd.  but we are flexible. 
basically, we really need help, and we're definitely flying into maui but have no hotels for any part of our stay!
thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 08, 2010, 11:04:22 PM
Are you flying in Coach or First?  A coach ticket should not be more than 40K miles per person.

You can book a ticket for example from NYC-Maui-Kauai-NYC all on one mileage ticket.

There is no Grand Hyatt in Maui, just a Hyatt Regency.  Do you have any Starwood points to use at the Westin or Sheraton on Maui?

Additional interisland flight segments can range from $50-$120 or 5,000 miles.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Jgraj on August 09, 2010, 12:15:06 AM
We're flying coach.  The only flight we could find into Kauai was with two stops and we didn't want to do that. 
We have a lot of american express points, can u use those for starwood points?  or can i trade points?
i meant the hyatt regency in maui.
do you think you can get us hotel rooms on the islands?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 09, 2010, 08:32:07 AM
We're flying coach.  The only flight we could find into Kauai was with two stops and we didn't want to do that. 
We have a lot of american express points, can u use those for starwood points?  or can i trade points?
i meant the hyatt regency in maui.
do you think you can get us hotel rooms on the islands?

You're definitely overpaying.
Send me an email dan at dansdeals.com and I'll see if I can get you straightened out...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: abeshua on September 16, 2010, 10:11:37 PM
Dan, im reading about how u got all these awesome deals in Hawaii with points and such. Im going to hawaii november 14th to the 21st and we plan on going to kauai and Maui (not sure yet how to split up the days. )  Do you know how to find a good deal on hotels there and whats the best way to split our days amongst the 2 places and do u think those are the 2 best places to go in that timeframe. We dont really have any points as we have no clue how it works and from the looks of things its going to be really expensive. Awesome website by the way. One of the first things I look at when I get to work.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 16, 2010, 11:18:36 PM
We are flying with miles on Continental in and out of Maui.  Leaving NY on the 11th (wedn), return flight on the 23rd (mon).  It's 140,000 miles for the 2 of us.  We haven't yet booked flights in between the islands, so we're flexible on which island we do first.  You also recommended that we go to the Big Island of Hawaii for a night or two. 
We have been unsuccessful at getting a room at GH kauai and GH maui!  If you could help us get rooms that would be amazing!  When would you recommend in our trip we try and go to the Big Island?  I am just nervous it is a lot of flying and not so relaxing, do you strongly recommend that extra trip?  Are flights expensive between islands?
Thanks so much for the help. 


Thanks for being a beta-tester of Dansdeals Concierge Services!
I hope you enjoyed your Hawaiian vacation-And that 3 balcony oceanfront suite at Hyatt Maui and the amazing GH Kauai!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 16, 2010, 11:23:59 PM
Dan, im reading about how u got all these awesome deals in Hawaii with points and such. Im going to hawaii november 14th to the 21st and we plan on going to kauai and Maui (not sure yet how to split up the days. )  Do you know how to find a good deal on hotels there and whats the best way to split our days amongst the 2 places and do u think those are the 2 best places to go in that timeframe. We dont really have any points as we have no clue how it works and from the looks of things its going to be really expensive. Awesome website by the way. One of the first things I look at when I get to work.
Sent you a PM...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E on February 02, 2011, 11:39:12 AM
which spg hotel is the nicest/ best location.. price is not a factor.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on February 02, 2011, 01:11:52 PM
st regis princeville kauai
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Charlie Brown on February 03, 2011, 12:05:33 PM
im trying to a plan a trip 20-27 feb to hawaii i have mileage with AA what would be the best way to to book the tickets (least mileage)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on February 03, 2011, 12:33:18 PM
go online too aa.com. see what dates have available flights to where you want to go!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Charlie Brown on February 03, 2011, 11:51:35 PM
go online too aa.com. see what dates have available flights to where you want to go!
sorry for not being clearer, when aa.com shows no availability for the dates needed is there any other way to get award tickets with aa miles
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 07, 2011, 09:28:28 PM
It seems that from NY the best flight to Hawaii is EWR-HNL direct on CO in BusinessFirst.

My question is, anyone ever see 2 seats available?
They must release seats but can never find them (even with a Plat account...)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2011, 09:31:27 PM
It seems that from NY the best flight to Hawaii is EWR-HNL direct on CO in BusinessFirst.

My question is, anyone ever see 2 seats available?
They must release seats but can never find them (even with a Plat account...)
I've flown HNL-EWR in BF with my wife on saver awards.  All about the timing.
IAH-HNL is very good and much easier though.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 07, 2011, 09:33:59 PM
I've flown HNL-EWR in BF with my wife on saver awards.  All about the timing.
IAH-HNL is very good and much easier though.
Timing of going to Hawaii or booking the tickets?
Would looking a year out up the chances?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 07, 2011, 09:41:22 PM
Timing of going to Hawaii or booking the tickets?
Would looking a year out up the chances?
Both.  We actually had HNL-IAH-CLE booked, my brother got engaged, so I went online, saw HNL-EWR in BF and flew home to CLE with a stopover in EWR.

I doubt looking ahead a year would help with CO.

I think DL might still fly some A333s to HNL and AA flies good 767s to HNL as well.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MLM on February 08, 2011, 01:23:41 PM
hi dan, im planning on going to maui for 3 days before pesach with my wife. what hotel do you recomennd? i have hilton,spg and hyatt awards avail. also what do think are the "must dos" in maui?
thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DavidMelamed on February 14, 2011, 01:07:12 AM
I have a Delta flight on hold for 40k each although the dates I really want it will be 105k.

I also checked on AA and they have flights for 35k each.

What I am uncertain of is if I am better off buying amex mr points, or if I am better off just buying delta or BA miles...

I guess I am open to trying whatever gets me to Hawaii for the best deal.
Best bet then is probably Aeroplan miles which can be obtained via AMEX or Starpoints.
Or Continental/United miles.

I am was unfamiliar with Aeroplan until now... it looks like 40k each ticket for my dates.
Are there any promotions for transfering miles to them? Do they trade in these forums for cheaper than delta or BA miles?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 01:18:21 AM
I have a Delta flight on hold for 40k each although the dates I really want it will be 105k.

I also checked on AA and they have flights for 35k each.

What I am uncertain of is if I am better off buying amex mr points, or if I am better off just buying delta or BA miles...

I guess I am open to trying whatever gets me to Hawaii for the best deal.
I am was unfamiliar with Aeroplan until now... it looks like 40k each ticket for my dates.
Are there any promotions for transfering miles to them? Do they trade in these forums for cheaper than delta or BA miles?
Because of the recent promos Amex are expensive. There is no promo to Aeroplan at the moment so buying the miles (whichever it is) is the way to go.

Delta, on the other hand should be going on the cheap because of all the promos and the fact that they're very hard to use (in general).

But if you can find the dates you want on AA or CO/UA it may be worth paying a little more per mile and using less miles.

I presume you're flying from NYC, right?
What are the dates you want to go?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2011, 01:24:02 AM
Aeroplan is just 60K in business on CO/UA/US to Hawaii.
The real question is if someone can transfer their SPG to your Aeroplan account...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DavidMelamed on February 14, 2011, 01:27:34 AM
Aeroplan is just 60K in business on CO/UA/US to Hawaii.
The real question is if someone can transfer their SPG to your Aeroplan account...

Really? that seems like the best deal i've seen... I might have a friend or two that can hook me up with SPG.
How come I didn't find that deal when I checked?

Because of the recent promos Amex are expensive. There is no promo to Aeroplan at the moment so buying the miles (whichever it is) is the way to go.

Delta, on the other hand should be going on the cheap because of all the promos and the fact that they're very hard to use (in general).

But if you can find the dates you want on AA or CO/UA it may be worth paying a little more per mile and using less miles.

I presume you're flying from NYC, right?
What are the dates you want to go?


My ideal itinerary is leaving NY on 2/23 to Hawaii, than Hawaii to LA or Vegas from 3/3-3/8.
If not that, than 2/23-3/8 in Hawaii.

Right now my delta hold is from 2/22-3/3 in hawaii, and 3/3-3/8 in LA. (If I leave the 23rd which works best its an extra 12.5k -25k miles total for both of us..

AA has 2/23-3/8 from ny to hawaii for 2x 35k ...

Any help is appreciated...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 01:28:22 AM
Aeroplan is just 60K in business on CO/UA/US to Hawaii.
The real question is if someone can transfer their SPG to your Aeroplan account...
Much safer to transfer to the same name as SPG account. Never heard of a problem using Aeroplan for tickets in someone else's name.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2011, 01:48:27 AM
Really? that seems like the best deal i've seen... I might have a friend or two that can hook me up with SPG.
How come I didn't find that deal when I checked?

My ideal itinerary is leaving NY on 2/23 to Hawaii, than Hawaii to LA or Vegas from 3/3-3/8.
If not that, than 2/23-3/8 in Hawaii.

Right now my delta hold is from 2/22-3/3 in hawaii, and 3/3-3/8 in LA. (If I leave the 23rd which works best its an extra 12.5k -25k miles total for both of us..

AA has 2/23-3/8 from ny to hawaii for 2x 35k ...

Any help is appreciated...
This is what I do :)
I actually have a customer in Hawaii now with a similar itinerary from NYC to Hawaii and a stop in Vegas on the return.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DavidMelamed on February 14, 2011, 01:52:19 AM
This is what I do :)
I actually have a customer in Hawaii now with a similar itinerary from NYC to Hawaii and a stop in Vegas on the return.

Customer? DO you offer travel services?
Your customer in Hawaii, how much was his flight if you don't mind me asking?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 01:56:41 AM
If you don't mind Economy, then you can fly:

Wed 2/23, CO15 EWR-HNL, 13:35-19:30
8 nights in Hawaii
Thurs 3/3, CO12 HNL-LAX, 21:35-5:10+1 day
Fri 3/4, UA353 LAX-LAS, 6:10-7:22
4 nights in Las Vegas
Tue 3/8 CO569 LAS-EWR, 6:35-14:27
Or, CO1467 14:20-22:05
Or, CO1752 17:00-00:14+1 day
Or, CO369 22:10-5:45+1 day

Would you rather fly business class for the extra miles?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 02:26:06 AM
In business class:
Wed 2/23 UA15 JFK-SFO, 14:35-18:10, Business class
Wed 2/23 UA79 SFO-HNL, 19:04-22:35, Business class
8 nights in Hawaii
Thurs 3/3 CO172 HNL-LAX, 14:50-22:25,Business class
5 nights in Los Angeles
Tue 3/8 UA28 LAX-JFK, 16:29-00:45, Business class

If you want to go to Vegas:
Wed 2/23 UA15 JFK-SFO, 14:35-18:10, Business class
Wed 2/23 UA79 SFO-HNL, 19:04-22:35, Business class
8 nights in Hawaii
Thurs 3/3 CO172 HNL-LAX, 14:50-22:25,Business class
Over night in Los Angeles
Fri 3/4 UA356 LAX-LAS, 7:30-8:33, Economy class
4 nights in Vegas
Tue 3/8 CO369 LAS-EWR, 22:10-5:45+1 day, Business class

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2011, 02:30:09 AM
But what if doesn't want to do HNL ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 02:32:12 AM
But what if doesn't want to do HNL ;)
No problem!
But probably a good idea to post where he wants to go...

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DavidMelamed on February 14, 2011, 10:22:07 AM
No problem!
But probably a good idea to post where he wants to go...



I want to go to Maui (OGG)

How many more miles would business class be?

I am planning on going economy unless it is less than double the amount for business.

Thanks for all the help.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 10:32:37 AM
Business is 60k Aeroplan (Air Canada) miles.

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DavidMelamed on February 14, 2011, 10:36:55 AM
Does anyone know anything about keeping shabbos in Hawaii?
Someone told me that you need to keep 2 days because its near the international date line...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 10:40:01 AM
Does anyone know anything about keeping shabbos in Hawaii?
Someone told me that you need to keep 2 days because its near the international date line...

Ask your local orthodox rabbi.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 11:18:22 AM
Time to get those miles...
Honeymoon to Hawaii and Vegas in Business Class

Wed 2/23, UA7 JFK-SFO, 8:15-12:02, Business Class
Wed 2/23, UA37 SFO-OGG, 13:25-17:09, Business Class
8 nights in Maui
Thurs 3/3, UA48 OGG-LAX, 23:05-6:18+1day, Business Class
Fri 3/4, UA746 LAX-LAS, 8:12-9:24, Business Class
4 nights, 5 days in Las Vegas
Tue 3/8, CO369 LAS-EWR, 22:10-5:45+1 day, Business Class
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DavidMelamed on February 14, 2011, 11:22:23 AM
 
Time to get those miles...
Honeymoon to Hawaii and Vegas in Business Class

Wed 2/23, UA7 JFK-SFO, 8:15-12:02, Business Class
Wed 2/23, UA37 SFO-OGG, 13:25-17:09, Business Class
8 nights in Maui
Thurs 3/3, UA48 OGG-LAX, 23:05-6:18+1day, Business Class
Fri 3/4, UA746 LAX-LAS, 8:12-9:24, Business Class
4 nights, 5 days in Las Vegas
Tue 3/8, CO369 LAS-EWR, 22:10-5:45+1 day, Business Class

do you have any idea how many miles this itinerary is?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 11:35:00 AM
Well, depends which miles you use...

Aeroplan (Air Canada)-60,000
ANA-85,000
Continental-80,000
Singapore Airlines-60,000 (but charge extra fuel surcharge)
US Airways-70,000
United-80,000

To name a few...

Aeroplan is your best bet ;)

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2011, 11:51:10 AM
Time to get those miles...
Honeymoon to Hawaii and Vegas in Business Class

Wed 2/23, UA7 JFK-SFO, 8:15-12:02, Business Class
Wed 2/23, UA37 SFO-OGG, 13:25-17:09, Business Class
8 nights in Maui
Thurs 3/3, UA48 OGG-LAX, 23:05-6:18+1day, Business Class
Fri 3/4, UA746 LAX-LAS, 8:12-9:24, Business Class
4 nights, 5 days in Las Vegas
Tue 3/8, CO369 LAS-EWR, 22:10-5:45+1 day, Business Class
Its not bad, but 8 days in Maui is too much and shabbos on the strip in vegas would be fairly miserable.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DavidMelamed on February 14, 2011, 11:59:46 AM
Its not bad, but 8 days in Maui is too much and shabbos on the strip in vegas would be fairly miserable.

What would you recommend given the dates 2/23-3/8 with plans to go to Maui, and Vegas ?

Should I do shabbos in another island, and go to vegas sat. night or sunday?

Also, I can't seem to replicate this itinerary on aeroplan.com, and I also have no idea if I can transfer amex from someone elses account to my aeroplan account...
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 12:17:34 PM
What would you recommend given the dates 2/23-3/8 with plans to go to Maui, and Vegas ?

Should I do shabbos in another island, and go to vegas sat. night or sunday?

Also, I can't seem to replicate this itinerary on aeroplan.com, and I also have no idea if I can transfer amex from someone elses account to my aeroplan account...
Any ideas?
Amex MR points will transfer to an account with a different name. SPG will not (most likely), besides SPG it can take time to transfer.

If you do two islands and Vegas you will need to either buy an inter-island flight or use another 5k miles. Reason is you're only allowed 1 stopover (Vegas) and one open jaw (between two islands).
So, the award will be for example, NYC-LIH (open jaw) OGG-LAS (stopover)-NYC. LIH-OGG would have to be separate.

You will probably have to call to book.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2011, 12:46:23 PM
It seems that from NY the best flight to Hawaii is EWR-HNL direct on CO in BusinessFirst.

My question is, anyone ever see 2 seats available?
They must release seats but can never find them (even with a Plat account...)
03/08 and 03/15 now have EWR-HNL BF seats.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on February 14, 2011, 12:52:51 PM
How about doing Maui and Kauai?

Wed 2/23, UA7 JFK-SFO, 8:15-12:02, Business Class
Wed 2/23, UA37 SFO-OGG, 13:25-17:09, Business Class
10 nights to split between Maui and Kauai.(will require separate ticket, paid or 5k miles)
Sat 3/5, UA64 LIH-SFO, 22:45-5:58+1 day, Business Class
Sun 3/6, US310 SFO-LAS, 7:00-8:27, Business Class
2 nights/3 days in Las Vegas
Tue 3/8, CO369 LAS-EWR, 22:10-5:45+1 day, Business Class

OT, but now when I'm trying to post, all the smilies and other icons (to bold or italic text etc) are gone. How do I get them back?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: elikay on February 14, 2011, 01:08:35 PM
http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-trav-dateline.htm (http://www.star-k.org/kashrus/kk-trav-dateline.htm)
As mentioned, always ask your LOR.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2011, 01:13:45 PM
AFAIK Chabad considers the international dateline as the dateline to use for shabbos.

There is a chabad house on all 4 major Hawaiian islands and the local communities there all observe shabbos on the local Saturday.

But ask your LOR, as always.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AsherO on February 14, 2011, 01:30:04 PM
AFAIK Chabad considers the international dateline as the dateline to use for shabbos.

There is a chabad house on all 4 major Hawaiian islands and the local communities there all observe shabbos on the local Saturday.

But ask your LOR, as always.

I wonder what their source is. According to this letter (http://hebrewbooks.org/pdfpager.aspx?req=15833&st=&pgnum=148) of the Rebbe (sere under the header "Alaska"), it's left in the open (though the Rebbe says it doesn't make sense that one side of the street should be Shabbos and the other side not).

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2011, 09:29:24 PM
I hope it's ok to reopen this thread...

Using my free nights for the SPG stay 3 Get 1 promo (thanks Dan posting it to the forum) which would you recommend in Hawaii for a trip in November? (location and island aside, just trying to compare hotels here) the St. Regis Princeville or the Royal Hawaiian Waikiki?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on July 31, 2011, 09:34:17 PM
St Regis.

How many do you have?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 31, 2011, 09:41:05 PM
I hope it's ok to reopen this thread...

Using my free nights for the SPG stay 3 Get 1 promo (thanks Dan posting it to the forum) which would you recommend in Hawaii for a trip in November? (location and island aside, just trying to compare hotels here) the St. Regis Princeville or the Royal Hawaiian Waikiki?

St. Regis Princeville 100%. Unless going for Shabbos, don't waste precious time in Waikiki. You'll be very dissapointed
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2011, 09:45:37 PM
Do you want a shul or kosher food within walking distance?  Then go with the Royal Hawaiian.

Kauai is a much more laid back island than Oahu and is amazing, but the truth is that Oahu is underrated.  Most people stick around Waikiki and Pearl Harbor where there are thousands of other tourists and that's why they have such a bad taste of Oahu.
Make it out to Banzai or to the amazing offshore islands reachable by kayak and you'll love Oahu as well...http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6045

The St Regis is supposed to be magnificent, but I never stayed there.  The GH Kauai is in a much better location, especially in the winter time when it's very rainy on the north shore (where the SRP is) but dry and sunny on the south shore (where the GHK is).  Besides for the raininess in the winter on the north shore, the waves make the water on the north shore unswimmable, while the south shore is excellent then.  Also from the SRP you are hours away from Waimea and Polihale, 2 of my favorite spots on Kauai, whereas they are much closer to the GHK.
On Oahu the Royal Hawaiian is definitely where to be but on Kauai I wouldn't say the same for the SRP IMHO, although to be fair again, I have yet to stay there.

Anyway what about the Cat. 6 Westin Resort Villas on Maui?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2011, 09:55:45 PM
St Regis.

How many do you have?

I have four free nights. Isn't it very rainy on the north side of Kauai in November? (that's when I plan to go)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2011, 10:00:05 PM
Do you want a shul or kosher food within walking distance?  Then go with the Royal Hawaiian.

Kauai is a much more laid back island than Oahu and is amazing, but the truth is that Oahu is underrated.  Most people stick around Waikiki and Pearl Harbor where there are thousands of other tourists and that's why they have such a bad taste of Oahu.
Make it out to Banzai or to the amazing offshore islands reachable by kayak and you'll love Oahu as well...http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6045

The St Regis is supposed to be magnificent, but I never stayed there.  The GH Kauai is in a much better location, especially in the winter time when it's very rainy on the north shore (where the SRP is) but dry and sunny on the south shore (where the GHK is).  Besides for the raininess in the winter on the north shore, the waves make the water on the north shore unswimmable, while the south shore is excellent then.  Also from the SRP you are hours away from Waimea and Polihale, 2 of my favorite spots on Kauai, whereas they are much closer to the GHK.
On Oahu the Royal Hawaiian is definitely where to be but on Kauai I wouldn't say the same for the SRP IMHO, although to be fair again, I have yet to stay there.

Anyway what about the Cat. 6 Westin Resort Villas on Maui?

Sorry just saw your post after I asked about the rain. Thanks for the info. read your trip reports, they are extremely helpful! Would love to stay at the GHK but have limited number of hyatt points and I'm maxed out on Chase CC :)

Is the weather on the north side unbearable? Or does it just affect the swimming conditions?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on July 31, 2011, 10:03:33 PM
Sorry just saw your post after I asked about the rain. Thanks for the info. read your trip reports, they are extremely helpful! Would love to stay at the GHK but have limited number of hyatt points and I'm maxed out on Chase CC :)

Is the weather on the north side unbearable? Or does it just affect the swimming conditions?
You could always try swapping with someone...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2011, 10:04:19 PM
I have four free nights. Isn't it very rainy on the north side of Kauai in November? (that's when I plan to go)
The north shore will have about double the rain, and it's cooler by quite a few degrees.
In the winter months I usually recommended the south shore more strongly than during the summer months.
(http://www.hawaiigaga.com/Images/islands/princeville-rainfall.jpg)
(http://www.hawaiigaga.com/Images/islands/poipu-rainfall.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2011, 10:05:29 PM
(http://www.hawaiigaga.com/Images/islands/princeville-rainfall.jpg)
(http://www.hawaiigaga.com/Images/islands/poipu-rainfall.jpg)

Thanks man!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2011, 10:06:53 PM
You could always try swapping with someone...
+1.

Anyway would you go for weekdays or shabbos?
Not considering Maui at all?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2011, 10:09:35 PM
+1.

Anyway would you go for weekdays or shabbos?
Not considering Maui at all?

A full week. I would use the 4 nights on one of the islands and pay for a hotel on the secondary island. I don't mind being in Kauai for shabbos.

Maui didn't really intrigue me. Especially because there is no DD trip report on it, it doesn't really exist yet ;)
 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2011, 10:09:51 PM
Kauai has some of the most variable rainfall on earth.  It has the wettest place on earth and deserts as well!
The GHK (and Sheraton) are ideally located in Poipu.

(http://www.hawaiigaga.com/Images/islands/island_map_1_style1.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2011, 10:11:38 PM
A full week. I would use the 4 nights on one of the islands and pay for a hotel on the secondary island. I don't mind being in Kauai for shabbos.
Stay 4 nights on Maui and pay for the GHK?  We've seen deals there for as little at $200 these days.  What are your dates?
Just FYI, I usually tell my clients to stick with 1 island if they're going for less than 9 days to Hawaii, but it all depends on your personality type.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2011, 10:15:12 PM
Stay 4 nights on Maui and pay for the GHK?  We've seen deals there for as little at $200 these days.  What are your dates?
Just FYI, I usually tell my clients to stick with 1 island if they're going for less than 9 days to Hawaii, but it all depends on your personality type.

Nov 14 - 21.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2011, 10:22:56 PM
Nov 14 - 21.
$290/night for the GHK ain't bad at all if you can swing it.

Otherwise maybe a few nights on the big island to see some volcanoes erupting/go to a green sand beach/horseback ride through rivers and waterfalls/scuba with manta rays/hike through past eruptions/swim in a private volcanically heated spring/drive up the highest mountain from its base in the world to a drop-dead sunset with a crystal clear stargazing show while staying in a quaint Hilo/Volcano area treehouse before heading over to RHW (if you want a shul with meals) or WOV/SRP for shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hudi on July 31, 2011, 10:38:48 PM
$290/night for the GHK ain't bad at all if you can swing it.

Otherwise maybe a few nights on the big island to see some volcanoes erupting/go to a green sand beach/horseback ride through rivers and waterfalls/scuba with manta rays/hike through past eruptions/swim in a private volcanically heated spring/drive up the highest mountain from its base in the world to a drop-dead sunset with a crystal clear stargazing show while staying in a quaint Hilo/Volcano area treehouse before heading over to RHW (if you want a shul with meals) or WOV/SRP for shabbos?

Yeah I checked the GHK.

Sounds awesome :) Where do you recommend staying on the big island?

Also where on your forum is it legal to switch spg free nights for hyatt?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 31, 2011, 11:13:35 PM
Yeah I checked the GHK.

Sounds awesome :) Where do you recommend staying on the big island?

Also where on your forum is it legal to switch spg free nights for hyatt?
Heh, I can name drop like that for any island.  Concierge buyers also get my personal guide to each island, although I've turned down every inquiring client for the past few months...sorry guys!

Can't trade on the forum...sorry!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on September 07, 2011, 12:20:04 PM
First time post, long time reader,
Just got back from Kauai and Maui, and I'd like to help out. Took a lot of advice from reading Dans trip notes, including the "revealed" books, as well as other advice on the Web. Here goes nothing..
Flights- Booking in advance would seem to be the most logical idea but I found that this wasnt necc true. Case in point; initially booked 2 80k CO business class tix 5-6 months out and the only flights I found were in and out of HNL. Not sure if there's a forum on this but other forums have info;if going inter-island from HNL it gets tricky as far as deciding how long to allow for connection(some factors; diff terminal for interisland flights, some situations requiring you to recheck baggage, agriculture screening, etc). Obviously its easier to fly direct to your island of choice. Taking advantage of the CO flight change policy, within 3 weeks of the trip, other options opened up(had to burn the AMEX plat credit for change fee bec it was within 21 days)and i grabbed it. Final itenerary UA (P.S service) JFK-SFO, UA SFO-LIH, island air(sep booking) LIH-OGG, UA OGG-LAX, UA(P.S Service) LAX-JFK. One final comment on the flights; I found that with United, the only well worth domestic flights flying business were PS service(google or check forum for more info on it, we actually got first class which are lie flat), the domestic first class seats are really not that impressive(I can't speak for other airlines), this coming from a lifelong coach flyer, so I'm not spoiled. I felt it was special for a honeymoon but if you don't have a million miles then imho, it's just not worth it. The united 767 flights from SFO to OGG, which i saw next to my plane, still have the old paint scheme, and not the one pre merger(although I'm sure that's gonna change), many airlines don't put much money into the HI flights.

Food-Brought 2 frozen boxes, maui seemed to have more options for kosher products(read above posts) but both are mad expensive when it comes to prices so bring whatever you can.

Rental car- Utilized Hertz from AMEX America getaways, forgot which option but for 380 I got a Tahoe for a week in LIH(great for 4wd road at Waimea), a mustang in OGG for a week, and still have 1000 points leftover!

Hotels- GH Kauai=amazing. see Kauai forum for my post on my experience and tip for booking. Private villa with private pool(for previously concerned poster)  in Maui.

Will post various ideas on activities in respective forums but generally we liked kauai for it's quaintness, plethora of activities, and gorgeous scenery. Maui is nice too but we were spoiled from Kauai.

I'll leave it at that for now...My sincere thanks to Dan and all the knowledgable people posting here and elsewhere for allowing us to have a well prepared trip.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 07, 2011, 02:51:19 PM
Thanks for the report!

The only worthwhile *A business flight to Hawaii are the CO nonstops from IAH or EWR to HNL that have BusinessFirst seats.  Personally I would fly CLE-IAH-HNL-LIH over CLE-LAX-LIH to fly in the CO BF seats.
Soon they will be lie-flat but for now they're still the very decent barcaloungers.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on September 07, 2011, 04:51:10 PM
Well then I'm guessing you never flew PS service(although reading your site for so long, i wouldn't be surprised if you had)...obv u wouldnt ever NEED to(and you seem to love EWR as your fav NYC airport), but JFK based crews are second to none, first class ticketholders get access to Int'l red carpet lounge(which i might add have great office space to work or daven when connecting at 5AM in LAX), and just announced plans to install the int'l lie flat seat(with entertainment) throughout business class on every jet, make  any other star alliance domestic upgrade hard to compete with the PS service. just sayin ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 07, 2011, 05:40:44 PM
Well then I'm guessing you never flew PS service(although reading your site for so long, i wouldn't be surprised if you had)...obv u wouldnt ever NEED to(and you seem to love EWR as your fav NYC airport), but JFK based crews are second to none, first class ticketholders get access to Int'l red carpet lounge(which i might add have great office space to work or daven when connecting at 5AM in LAX), and just announced plans to install the int'l lie flat seat(with entertainment) throughout business class on every jet, make  any other star alliance domestic upgrade hard to compete with the PS service. just sayin ;)
But that only gets you to LAX.  Still have a long flight to the islands.
If you can fly EWR-HNL in BF on an 80K award then you're in an international seat for much longer than just JFK-LAX.  The interisland connection is very easy.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mguy on September 07, 2011, 09:40:45 PM
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If you can fly EWR-HNL in BF on an 80K award

Is there a trick to finding these reward tickets? For example, just looked at continental.com for EWR to NHL and I see the 40K-each-way BF seat available on only 5 individual days between now and July 2012. Do elite status holders get better availability on these?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 07, 2011, 09:46:20 PM
Is there a trick to finding these reward tickets? For example, just looked at continental.com for EWR to NHL and I see the 40K-each-way BF seat available on only 5 individual days between now and July 2012. Do elite status holders get better availability on these?
Yes, availability is much better for Platinums.  You can check Platinum BF availability by searching for a paid flight, clicking on fare class next to the flight, and seeing the number of seats available in O class.

Also I happen to be hogging 2 BF seats on several EWR/IAH-HNL flights while I try to plan a future trip.  Sue me ;)  They were O class mostly anyway.

Also look for IAH-HNL as CO does fly some BF planes between EWR-IAH.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on September 07, 2011, 09:51:42 PM
Yes, availability is much better for Platinums.  You can check Platinum BF availability by searching for a paid flight, clicking on fare class next to the flight, and seeing the number of seats available in O class.

Also I happen to be hogging 2 BF seats on several EWR/IAH-HNL flights while I try to plan a future trip.  Sue me ;)  They were O class mostly anyway.

Also look for IAH-HNL as CO does fly some BF planes between EWR-IAH.
Perhaps drop a line here when you confirm your plans and are about to cancel the others?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 07, 2011, 10:09:43 PM
Perhaps drop a line here when you confirm your plans and are about to cancel the others?
When CO cancelled a CLE-EWR flight causing a misconnect for the EWR-HNL they rerouted me CLE-IAH-HNL but the EWR-HNL inventory did not ever return.

But I will post next time, bl"n.
Worth noting the calendar was yellow for all the BF HNL trips I booked...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: aussiebochur on September 07, 2011, 10:13:51 PM
When CO cancelled a CLE-EWR flight causing a misconnect for the EWR-HNL they rerouted me CLE-IAH-HNL but the EWR-HNL inventory did not ever return.

But I will post next time, bl"n.
Worth noting the calendar was yellow for all the BF HNL trips I booked...
I do find the calendar to be incorrect at times, especially with O inventory and partner flights.

But its a great tool for a quick overview...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yellow on October 23, 2011, 06:38:40 PM
I'm looking to book 3 RT tickets to Hawaii from ORD sometime in Jan. using BA miles. Is it way too late to attempt to find availability? I tried looking on the BA site and found nothing, but its highly likely that i just didnt know what i was doing.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on October 23, 2011, 06:46:42 PM
I'm looking to book 3 RT tickets to Hawaii from ORD sometime in Jan. using BA miles. Is it way too late to attempt to find availability? I tried looking on the BA site and found nothing, but its highly likely that i just didnt know what i was doing.
Search on AA.com
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yellow on October 23, 2011, 06:54:40 PM
Search on AA.com
Just did... Still unsuccessful
Do you think calling would help?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on October 23, 2011, 06:56:57 PM
Just did... Still unsuccessful
Do you think calling would help?
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7249.0
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yellow on October 23, 2011, 07:08:28 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7249.0
Thanks I just checked it out
Title: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 12:01:16 PM
I'll post some notes about HNL in the Oahu section, but I'd just like to say that it Oahu is underrated and definitely worth a 2-3 day trip.
Extremely underrated, typically by those that stay in Waikiki with no car and don't get out and explore the island at all.
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: momo on November 17, 2011, 12:57:18 PM
9 days sun- mon early feb. Have been to kauai, loved it am really tempted to go back. Should i do maui and or big island ? Or just stick to kaui? I am flying into hnl
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 01:14:46 PM
9 days sun- mon early feb. Have been to kauai, loved it am really tempted to go back. Should i do maui and or big island ? Or just stick to kaui? I am flying into hnl
I would check out other islands.
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: momo on November 17, 2011, 01:19:54 PM
which island would u suggest? and can i do 2 islands
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 01:21:53 PM
which island would u suggest? and can i do 2 islands
I typically advise 5-7 days per island, but you can do 2 in 9 days if you're willing to push it.
I loved all 4 islands, Kauai may be my favorite but it's hard to advise someone which one to go to without knowing their interests.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on November 17, 2011, 01:24:50 PM
I typically advise 5-7 days per island, but you can do 2 in 9 days if you're willing to push it.
I loved all 4 islands, Kauai may be my favorite but it's hard to advise someone which one to go to without knowing their interests.

What interests of yours led you to pick as Kauai  #1?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on November 17, 2011, 01:25:35 PM
What interests of yours led you to pick as Kauai  #1?
Read my Kauai trip notes and you should figure it out.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 05, 2011, 11:58:24 AM
Have 2 upcoming HNL trips in CO BF that I'm about to cancel (each are for 2 passengers):

01/24: IAH-HNL
02/05: HNL-EWR

02/23: EWR-HNL
03/04 HNL-EWR

They were all booked as Plat BF awards (80K CO per person) but I've noticed that when I cancel they either seem to go back into regular award inventory (bookable by non-plats) or they don't go back at all.

If you would like to book one of these trips please pm me and we'll try to coordinate the cancellation so you can try to book.  Remember CO allows free date changes, so you can book now and always change later on.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skaskel on December 05, 2011, 03:34:52 PM
Planning to go to Kauai in July with our two teen age kids. I was thinking about renting a condo for more room, kitchen facilities and Shabbos convenience. Have you ever checked out The Villas at Poipukai or Outrigger Waipouli Beach Resort Condos? They look modern and beautiful on line and very affordable for a family of 4 that needs 2 rooms. I wanted to get your take on staying in a place like this over a resort hotel. Will we be missing something or is it a good trade off for the room and convenience of the kitchen?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 06, 2011, 02:29:48 AM
I stayed with my family in Kauai at a condo.  Simply can't compare in any way to an awesome resort like the Grand Hyatt Kauai.

Have 2 upcoming HNL trips in CO BF that I'm about to cancel (each are for 2 passengers):

01/24: IAH-HNL
02/05: HNL-EWR

02/23: EWR-HNL
03/04 HNL-EWR

They were all booked as Plat BF awards (80K CO per person) but I've noticed that when I cancel they either seem to go back into regular award inventory (bookable by non-plats) or they don't go back at all.

If you would like to book one of these trips please pm me and we'll try to coordinate the cancellation so you can try to book.  Remember CO allows free date changes, so you can book now and always change later on.
Bump.  Will cancel soon, so pm me now if you might want 'em.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2011, 03:36:54 AM
Have 2 upcoming HNL trips in CO BF that I'm about to cancel (each are for 2 passengers):

01/24: IAH-HNL
02/05: HNL-EWR

02/23: EWR-HNL
03/04 HNL-EWR

They were all booked as Plat BF awards (80K CO per person) but I've noticed that when I cancel they either seem to go back into regular award inventory (bookable by non-plats) or they don't go back at all.

If you would like to book one of these trips please pm me and we'll try to coordinate the cancellation so you can try to book.  Remember CO allows free date changes, so you can book now and always change later on.
Final bump, will cancel by Monday if nobody wants 'em.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Avid Reader on December 11, 2011, 01:54:21 PM
We're going to Hawaii Iy"H on the 20th to the 27th. Flying into OGG, Flying out of LIH. Any suggestions on how much time to spend in each island or in which island to spend the bulk of our time? On which one would be best to spend shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2011, 02:01:16 PM
We're going to Hawaii Iy"H on the 20th to the 27th. Flying into OGG, Flying out of LIH. Any suggestions on how much time to spend in each island or in which island to spend the bulk of our time? On which one would be best to spend shabbos?
Personally for a trip of 7 days or less I would stick with 1 island as you lose a day in the moving process and you're left with not quite enough time to do either island...
Where will you be staying?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Avid Reader on December 11, 2011, 05:27:42 PM

Where will you be staying?
All I have are the flights. No other plans yet (I know, it's late).
1) Which Island would you suggest I do for first time in Hawaii? From reading your reports, I guess Kauai.
2) I booked the whole award in UA first via AC (I couldn't find flights for my dates on CO). Would I just add another leg in inter Hawaii hopping to the next island, or do I need to change my inbound - outbound flights altogether?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ajs625 on December 11, 2011, 11:06:26 PM
I hope to go to Hawaii iy"h this coming summer. I plan to use airline miles as my way of getting there. I currently have abt 75,000 Amex points and I was wondering what would be the best airline to transfer it to to get 2 tickets? ( I am asking now because of the promo bonus' being offered now).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2011, 11:07:57 PM
I hope to go to Hawaii iy"h this coming summer. I plan to use airline miles as my way of getting there. I currently have abt 75,000 Amex points and I was wondering what would be the best airline to transfer it to to get 2 tickets?
Check for availability on all the airlines that fly there and then you'll know.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2011, 11:10:05 PM
All I have are the flights. No other plans yet (I know, it's late).
1) Which Island would you suggest I do for first time in Hawaii? From reading your reports, I guess Kauai.
2) I booked the whole award in UA first via AC (I couldn't find flights for my dates on CO). Would I just add another leg in inter Hawaii hopping to the next island, or do I need to change my inbound - outbound flights altogether?
It depends on what you like to do.  All 4 major islands offer very unique activities, it's hard to offer blanket advice.
I can book interisland flights for people and get 2 free checked bags, just email me.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ajs625 on December 11, 2011, 11:11:52 PM
If i recall correctly AA allows you to make stopovers one way award flights and you blogged about it. Can you post the link for that?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2011, 11:13:57 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/17369
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ajs625 on December 11, 2011, 11:23:29 PM
Thx, and it can only be done over the phone?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2011, 11:26:11 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: mcbt on December 19, 2011, 04:55:32 PM
I want to go to Hawaii this summer for a honeymoon and i am in way over my head.

i just signed up for sapphire preferred, have a delta amex but nothing  substantial on it (missed the bonus)...

What credit card or cards should i get for travel  and hotel?
if i just got my credit checked by chase is it stupid to get the hyatt by chase?

How much do flights go for points from NY?

any help would be greatly appreciated!! 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on December 20, 2011, 09:11:31 PM
Dan out of all the Islands would you still recommend Kauai most? Even with a baby given that most the activities on that Island seem physical? Better off in Maui? Being that you just did it, whats your thoughts?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ryan on December 21, 2011, 12:47:25 AM
Dan - Can you get a RT flight from HNL to Hilo or to Kona on March 9 - 11 for less than $170 with tax in economy?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ryan on December 28, 2011, 11:47:04 AM
Bump...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on December 28, 2011, 12:02:34 PM
cheapest flights for those dates are 172 dan does not have any magical powers ( at least that i am aware of) to make flights go down in price. if you would like assuming there are flights available i would book tickets for you using my miles for you for 150 a ticket
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ryan on December 28, 2011, 12:11:08 PM
Thank you for the offer but I'll have enough points to book.

Sometimes it seems like he does have some magical powers...I only asked because earlier in the thread he mentioned to get in touch with him to book inter-island flights. I figured it doesn't hurt to see if he can get a better rate.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on December 28, 2011, 12:12:55 PM
gotcha no problem. Enjoy! I think he was talking about being able to get free bags which would in theory make your flight cheaper
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ryan on December 28, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
I think you're right
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2011, 12:44:23 PM
The corp rate is only cheaper when the interisland flights go over $180 RT I believe.
Free bags is the huge savings.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: eliteflyer on January 01, 2012, 02:56:06 PM
Have a March trip planned to Hawaii for Spring Break thanks to the CO glitch. Everyone seems to say that Lanai is difficult to visit if you want to get a good hotel deal, particularly using points.

However, I looked into current promotions with FHR (using Plat card) and found a 'stay 2 get third night free' at Four Seasons Resort Lana'i, The Lodge at Koele. This effectively produces a rate of about $206 per night. IT seems lke a good deal, as the resort does not charge a resort fee, offers a complimentary shuttle and access to all facilities at the other Four Seasons on the island, and includes a $100 spa credit in addition to the other FHR benefits.

There is a ferry to Lanai from Maui.

anyone think that this 3 night visit would be worth doing in conjunction with a trip to Maui or Kauai? I was thinking either redeeming with SPG in Maui or staying on a Hyatt Gov rate of $169 at HR Mauai using a suite upgrade.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2012, 03:07:42 PM
GH Kauai-Island flight to Lanai.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: eliteflyer on January 01, 2012, 03:14:03 PM
GH Kauai-Island flight to Lanai.

Right, that's also a possibility. Just happens to be that Lanai is closer to Maui. Also, there are no non-stops from LIH to Lanai.

Been to Kauai, Maui and Oahu (briefly) on past trips.

I'm debating whether this is a good idea considering we are arriving in HNL at 1pm on Sun and returning the following Sun at 7:30pm. Flying around that mch within a week would probably defeat the relaxing purpose of a trip to FS Lanai....still a good deal though I think.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: eliteflyer on January 04, 2012, 11:51:03 AM
Whats the minimum time I should put in for a connection at HNL? I'm flying in and out on CO in BF via IAH and would prefer not to miss the connection, particularly on the way back to the mainland.

The connection is to a Hawaiian flight to LIH on either end ticketed separately. I figure that on the wau into LIH, I can probably get away with an hour layover. In the worst case scenario, Hawaiian would probably let us onto the next flight out an hour later. On the way back however, I figure I should probably give myself a 2 hour buffer. Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on January 04, 2012, 11:54:40 AM
Check out this thread very informative.   http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/761311-guide-questions-concerning-connecting-thru-hnl-other-hawai-i-airports.html
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: eliteflyer on January 04, 2012, 12:15:16 PM
Check out this thread very informative.   http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/hawaii/761311-guide-questions-concerning-connecting-thru-hnl-other-hawai-i-airports.html
Thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 04, 2012, 01:23:28 PM
I typically aim for 60-75 minutes to connect either way in HNL and check my bags all the way to the final destination. 
It's either a nice hike to the interisland terminal or a slow shuttle, either way figure on it taking 15-25 minutes to connect.

Never missed a connection with 60-75.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 05, 2012, 12:41:26 PM
I plan on visiting LIH sometime later this year anywhere form August to November (Sun-Thu trip). Have inbound into LIH on 11/04 (AA award=free changes)

Any harm in locking into the 20k direct from HNL-EWR on 11/08 now? (+inter-island from LIH-HNL)

What if I need to change my AA Award but CO doesn't have availability on a direct from HNL am I risking messing myself up?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2012, 12:51:05 PM
CO has free changes as long as origin/destination are the same and it's done 21+ days out.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 05, 2012, 12:54:13 PM
CO has free changes as long as origin/destination are the same and it's done 21+ days out.
But I would risk having no availability on a direct thus having 2 stops on the way home.
Rather book something from LIH with 1 stop in mainland no?

Which brings me to another point of is it even worth it to spend the extra money/miles just to be on that direct HNL-EWR?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: eliteflyer on January 05, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
But I would risk having no availability on a direct thus having 2 stops on the way home.
Rather book something from LIH with 1 stop in mainland no?

Which brings me to another point of is it even worth it to spend the extra money/miles just to be on that direct HNL-EWR?
In coach or BF? If youre flying coach anyways, I would say the cheapest and easiest thing to do would be to fly NYC-LAX-LIH instead of flying to HNL and changing to an inter-island flight and having to purchase a separate award.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 05, 2012, 04:05:10 PM
In coach or BF? If youre flying coach anyways, I would say the cheapest and easiest thing to do would be to fly NYC-LAX-LIH instead of flying to HNL and changing to an inter-island flight and having to purchase a separate award.
Coach.
Thanks I will be on the lookout for a LIH-LAX-EWR flight. Only see flights with 2+ stops for now.

BF to/from EWR is standard domestic BF anyways. Plus I can't sleep on a plane without my little ambien friend regardless of where I sit...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2012, 04:20:38 PM
standard domestic BF
Oxymoron.  There's domestic F, there is no domestic BF.  And EWR-HNL is much better than domestic F even if it's not international BF.

Plus I can't sleep on a plane without my little ambien friend regardless of where I sit...
CX F does wonders.  So does Bose QC15s (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0054JJ0QW/?tag=cl03f-20).

In coach or BF? If youre flying coach anyways, I would say the cheapest and easiest thing to do would be to fly NYC-LAX-LIH instead of flying to HNL and changing to an inter-island flight and having to purchase a separate award.
+1, or LIH-SFO-NYC.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 05, 2012, 04:30:33 PM
Oxymoron.  There's domestic F, there is no domestic BF.
My bad.

CX F does wonders.  So does Bose QC15s (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0054JJ0QW/?tag=cl03f-20).
While I find CX F very relaxing/comfortable I still can not sleep without a pill.
And I don't know why people fly without QC15 

+1, or LIH-SFO-NYC.
Then thats what Ill do.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: chuchem on January 08, 2012, 12:52:32 PM
http://www.oahukosher.com/  says they r closed. Does anyone know if this is for good or only now during the winter. Does that mean one cant get kosher food on kauai?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2012, 12:57:46 PM
http://www.oahukosher.com/  says they r closed. Does anyone know if this is for good or only now during the winter. Does that mean one cant get kosher food on kauai?
The restaurant is closed, but he still makes food on request and can send to other island AFAIK.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: chuchem on January 08, 2012, 12:58:58 PM
from his website it sounds, like he is closed after 5 years of service.... send him a email.... will wait
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 08, 2012, 01:04:27 PM
Could be.  There are places in LA that will send double wrapped meals from eateries there to your hotel.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TC610 on January 11, 2012, 01:52:40 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned luaus in this thread.  For those who have visited Oahu, any recommendations or anything to definitely avoid?  We are a couple in our early 30s with no kids.  I've read a handful of reviews on other boards, but most reviews lack real pluses/minuses or are a couple of years old.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 11, 2012, 01:53:44 AM
I'm surprised no one has mentioned luaus in this thread.  For those who have visited Oahu, any recommendations or anything to definitely avoid?  We are a couple in our early 30s with no kids.  I've read a handful of reviews on other boards, but most reviews lack real pluses/minuses or are a couple of years old.
You won't find much help here...luaus don't offer much attraction to folk who only eat kosher.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TC610 on January 11, 2012, 02:04:47 AM
You won't find much help here...luaus don't offer much attraction to folk who only eat kosher.

Yeah I realized that shortly after I posted the question.  I came back here to delete it but you responded too quickly :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: chuchem on January 19, 2012, 06:58:29 AM
http://www.oahukosher.com/  says they r closed. Does anyone know if this is for good or only now during the winter. Does that mean one cant get kosher food on kauai?
This are the email I got from Chabad HNL

We are in the midst of opening a new restaurant now, and should be able to send food to you in Kauai. There will be an additional charge for sending meals outer-island. Please be in touch with us as it gets closer to your trip - we are in the process of updating our website and should have all appropriate information available for you shortly.

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We may have a slightly varied menu/pricing but the idea is definitely the same...
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We are beginning with take out meals this coming week, but a fully functional restaurant is in the works. We will have a website, and you will be able to access it from chabad's direct site (chabadofhawaii.com). Please check back with us via email or by checking Chabad's site to get full details as it gets closer to your trip.




Title: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: JJP on February 23, 2012, 09:53:05 AM
Hello DDF members,

My wife & I are planning our honeymoon trip to Hawaii for mid-May and i wanted to get some input from DDF members.

We want to go for 8 nights (4 @ hyatt waikiki & 4 @ hyatt kauai). My wife and I both have the hyatt cc with 2 suite nights awards each (we applied after being diamond matched from hilton gold). In addition we have ~80k UR points and 8 x 7-day suite upgrade certificates (4 each).

Now, given that I only want to stay in suites in both the hotels, what would be my best options? Is it to use the 4 suite nights in one hotel and then for the other hotel buy 2 nights in standard rate rooms (~$400/night) and use one upgrade certificate on top of those and then use my points to get 2 free nights and pray that they will leave me in the suite??

Or should I use 2 suites awards in one hotel and then 2 suites awards in the other and then scramble something with my points and cash for the other nights?

I dont mind paying for 2 nights @ standard rate but that's my maximum... I would rather use my points if u have a better use of them than what I suggested...

Thanks again DDF members!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2012, 12:21:30 PM
Hello DDF members,

My wife & I are planning our honeymoon trip to Hawaii for mid-May and i wanted to get some input from DDF members.

We want to go for 8 nights (4 @ hyatt waikiki & 4 @ hyatt kauai). My wife and I both have the hyatt cc with 2 suite nights awards each (we applied after being diamond matched from hilton gold). In addition we have ~80k UR points and 8 x 7-day suite upgrade certificates (4 each).

Now, given that I only want to stay in suites in both the hotels, what would be my best options? Is it to use the 4 suite nights in one hotel and then for the other hotel buy 2 nights in standard rate rooms (~$400/night) and use one upgrade certificate on top of those and then use my points to get 2 free nights and pray that they will leave me in the suite??

Or should I use 2 suites awards in one hotel and then 2 suites awards in the other and then scramble something with my points and cash for the other nights?

I dont mind paying for 2 nights @ standard rate but that's my maximum... I would rather use my points if u have a better use of them than what I suggested...

Thanks again DDF members!
The better question is why the 4 nights in Oahu instead of Maui or the Big Island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on February 23, 2012, 03:56:58 PM
The better question is why the 4 nights in Oahu instead of Maui or the Big Island?

Well the 4 nights could be in Maui (even if I am still waiting for your trip notes for that island  :D) and for the big island there is no hyatt there... I don't have any points for hotels like Fairmont or Westin; but the question still stands whichever hotel I choose... how should i make good use of those awards/upgrades/$??
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2012, 04:22:24 PM
Don't know anyone you can trade UR points for SPG points with?
I think you should use the 2 suite certs at each hotel and book the following 2 nights with points, they probably won't downgrade you.  Though you may need a few more points.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on February 23, 2012, 04:27:13 PM
Don't know anyone you can trade UR points for SPG points with?
No I don't. Do you think the Fairmont or Westin are that much better than the Hyatt Maui?

I think you should use the 2 suite certs at each hotel and book the following 2 nights with points, they probably won't downgrade you.  Though you may need a few more points.
So no use of my upgrade certificates??
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2012, 04:28:45 PM
No I don't. Do you think the Fairmont or Westin are that much better than the Hyatt Maui?
So no use of my upgrade certificates??
I don't think the Westin Maui is nicer than Hyatt Maui, but the Westin Waikiki kicks the Hyatt Waikiki to shame.
And the Fairmont Maui does the same to the Westin/Hyatt Maui.
There is also SPG and Fairmont on the Big Island but not Hyatt.

I don't think you'll need to use the upgrades.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on February 23, 2012, 05:17:31 PM
I don't think the Westin Maui is nicer than Hyatt Maui, but the Westin Waikiki kicks the Hyatt Waikiki to shame.
And the Fairmont Maui does the same to the Westin/Hyatt Maui.
There is also SPG and Fairmont on the Big Island but not Hyatt.

I don't think you'll need to use the upgrades.
Shouldn't I try to use my points for standard rate rooms and then try to get the front desk to use my upgrade certificates... I know it's YMMV, but I ll use much less points...
Should I bother trying to get spg points for the fairmont or the hyatt maui will do? (if you were in that situation...)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 23, 2012, 05:28:59 PM
You should use points for a regular room (in fact you can't use points for a suite for just 2 nights).  What I'm saying is a hotel is unlikely to downgrade you in middle of a stay.
You should call in advance to see if you can get a manager to confirm you in the suite for the entire stay for free.

The Fairmont isn't SPG, you'll have a very hard time getting nights there.

The advantages of Waikiki for frum people though is the kosher restaurant/store and shul within walking distance, other than that the other 3 islands win in every way.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on February 23, 2012, 05:36:41 PM
You should use points for a regular room (in fact you can't use points for a suite for just 2 nights).  What I'm saying is a hotel is unlikely to downgrade you in middle of a stay.
You should call in advance to see if you can get a manager to confirm you in the suite for the entire stay for free.

The Fairmont isn't SPG, you'll have a very hard time getting nights there.

The advantages of Waikiki for frum people though is the kosher restaurant/store and shul within walking distance, other than that the other 3 islands win in every way.
Great thanks Dan! I appreciate the help! Hopefully, I ll be able to contribute a nice trip report as well B"H.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on March 07, 2012, 12:12:03 PM
Hey Dan, or experienced United/Continental users,

there is no supersaver business availibility on the united website for NYC-LIH for July (everything is @ 80,000 one way)... do u think i should wait for june to book based on your experience? Are business awards @ 40,000 more available a couple of weeks before the flight? Or should I just book right now since I saw a 20,000 economy supersaver I m scared to lose.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2012, 12:46:49 PM
Hey Dan, or experienced United/Continental users,

there is no supersaver business availibility on the united website for NYC-LIH for July (everything is @ 80,000 one way)... do u think i should wait for june to book based on your experience? Are business awards @ 40,000 more available a couple of weeks before the flight? Or should I just book right now since I saw a 20,000 economy supersaver I m scared to lose.
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7249
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on March 07, 2012, 01:10:38 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=7249

I m not sure how this can help me even if I break the trip down... NYC-LAX in business is minimum 25k and LAX-OGG is 45k... Total: 70k. It is cheaper than the 80k in one single trip but I will never be able to have the 40k supersaver business trip JFK-LAX-OGG i found if booked in one single search. Hence, my question, should I wait for june so that United may release 40k business supersaver or it's just not gonna happen, and whatever is here now is what is gonna be then...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2012, 01:12:24 PM
You sir, would be the target market for this: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13978
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on March 07, 2012, 01:16:04 PM
You sir, would be the target market for this: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13978

Well for sure I'll be there! You could have known only by looking at the post count :)
Any quick answer to my problem as a preview to the meeting?? :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 07, 2012, 01:19:23 PM
Saver awards can be combined no matter how many flights it takes to get there, if you find JFK-xxx and xxx-LIH in saver it can be booked for 20K in coach or 40K in business each way.  You just need to call to book.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on March 07, 2012, 01:27:30 PM
Saver awards can be combined no matter how many flights it takes to get there, if you find JFK-xxx and xxx-LIH in saver it can be booked for 20K in coach or 40K in business each way.  You just need to call to book.

So if i find JFK-xxx for 25k in business and xxx-LIH for 45k in business; are they gonna charge me 70k or 25k for the whole JFK-xxx-LIH by calling?
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on March 07, 2012, 01:45:34 PM
So if i find JFK-xxx for 25k in business and xxx-LIH for 45k in business; are they gonna charge me 70k or 25k for the whole JFK-xxx-LIH by calling?
Neither. 40k
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on March 07, 2012, 01:46:30 PM
Neither. 40k

lol. care to explain where that number comes from?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on March 07, 2012, 02:13:17 PM
That is what they charge for a one way biz ticket to Hawaii
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: JJP on March 07, 2012, 02:17:49 PM
That is what they charge for a one way biz ticket to Hawaii

So to sum up, the price is still gonna be 40k even if a search on the website comes up to 70k when each leg is booked separately and no availability when everything is booked together...

over the phone, should i first ask for the 1st leg, ask the price and then go to the second leg or should i just say jfk-lhi??
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on March 07, 2012, 02:25:56 PM
So to sum up, the price is still gonna be 40k even if a search on the website comes up to 70k when each leg is booked separately and no availability when everything is booked together...

over the phone, should i first ask for the 1st leg, ask the price and then go to the second leg or should i just say jfk-lhi??
Tell them JFK-lhi and tell them which legs you found
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: compddd on March 09, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
I'm going to Hawaii in May, staying 4 days on Maui, and 3 days on Oahu. I have 20k SPG points, any hotel recommendations Dan?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 09, 2012, 02:12:43 PM
6 nights in Hawaii...
Maui or Kauai?
Which one has nicer scenery? 

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2012, 02:14:41 PM
6 nights in Hawaii...
Maui or Kauai?
Which one has nicer scenery? 
They're both great but very different.  Which you like better is like asking chocolate or vanilla.
Make it 8 nights and spend 4 on each :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2012, 02:16:28 PM
I'm going to Hawaii in May, staying 4 days on Maui, and 3 days on Oahu. I have 20k SPG points, any hotel recommendations Dan?
Westin Moana Surfrider (Oahu) is excellent, but Oahu itself isn't all that exciting.  Though the attraction for many DDF'ers is that it does have a kosher restaurant now and is the only island with a shul within walking distance of the resort area.
The trick for Oahu is not spending time in the HNL vicinity.

Westin Maui is fine, though I've never stayed there myself.  I'm not such a fan of the area it's in compared to Wailea, but it's still nice.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 09, 2012, 02:23:39 PM
Is there a way for someone who is a diamond Hyatt member to book my room so Ill get an upgrade? 
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 09, 2012, 02:24:38 PM
They're both great but very different.  Which you like better is like asking chocolate or vanilla.
Make it 8 nights and spend 4 on each :)

I'm so tempted but I think 7 days/6 nights is the most that will work out for now.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2012, 02:27:49 PM
Is there a way for someone who is a diamond Hyatt member to book my room so Ill get an upgrade? 
Are you paying or using points?

I'm so tempted but I think 7 days/6 nights is the most that will work out for now.
I wouldn't do 2 islands in 6 nights, though I might do 5 nights on one island and a night on the Hilo side of the big island to see the volcano erupting and go up Mauna Kea.
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 09, 2012, 02:30:13 PM
Are you paying or using points?
I wouldn't do 2 islands in 6 nights, though I might do 5 nights on one island and a night on the Hilo side of the big island to see the volcano erupting and go up Mauna Kea.


I'm hoping to use points.

And that was going to be my next question. If I'm flying all the way to Hawaii I'd like to see a volcano. :)
I'm going to look into that.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2012, 02:33:51 PM
Well now you need 9 nights, 4 for Kauai, 4 for Maui and at least 1 for the Big Island :D

I spent a month honeymooning on all 4 major islands with my wife in '09, now that's the way to do it :D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: compddd on March 09, 2012, 03:55:10 PM
How did you afford that lol
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2012, 03:59:40 PM
How did you afford that lol
I don't think I paid a dime.
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 09, 2012, 04:13:45 PM
I don't think I paid a dime.

You didn't spend any cash on that trip? Awesome.  Where's that trip report ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 09, 2012, 04:27:29 PM
You didn't spend any cash on that trip? Awesome.  Where's that trip report ?
I'm exaggerating, but typically the airfare/lodging I have covered with points and for Hawaii we just bring our own food, so expenses are very minimal.
I didn't write a TR, but elements from that trip were covered in other TRs on Hawaii that I wrote.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: andrew on March 10, 2012, 12:32:51 PM
do you mind posting the links to all those trip reports
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 10, 2012, 08:20:59 PM
I'm exaggerating, but typically the airfare/lodging I have covered with points and for Hawaii we just bring our own food, so expenses are very minimal.
I didn't write a TR, but elements from that trip were covered in other TRs on Hawaii that I wrote.

Note how I wouldn't find it unbelievable had you not been exaggerating. :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 10, 2012, 09:19:37 PM
You say to rent a Convertible on your trip to Hawaii but also that you needed a 4 x 4.  Should I stick with a Jeep ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2012, 09:50:35 PM
You say to rent a Convertible on your trip to Hawaii but also that you needed a 4 x 4.  Should I stick with a Jeep ?
Depends on the island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 10, 2012, 09:51:01 PM
Depends on the island.

Kauai?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 10, 2012, 09:52:16 PM
Kauai?
Oahu/Maui=Convertible.
Hawaii (Big Island)=4x4

Kauai is the only toss up, really depends on what you plan on doing and how comfortable you are with your driving skills.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 11, 2012, 01:58:30 AM
Oahu/Maui=Convertible.
Hawaii (Big Island)=4x4

Kauai is the only toss up, really depends on what you plan on doing and how comfortable you are with your driving skills.

I haven't really decided what the itinerary will be. But I'd like the option of getting to some places that are off the beaten path.

       I've been looking into the activities offered by the Hyatt Kauai. Are any of them worth taking? I have Hyatt vouchers I could use to pay as long as their activities are charged to the room.
Title: which 2 islands in HI
Post by: arid on March 28, 2012, 12:57:21 PM
Im hopefully going to hawaii this summer for 10 days. which 2 islands/areas does everyone think are a must if you go?
Title: Re: which 2 islands in HI
Post by: robi on March 28, 2012, 12:58:30 PM
Maui & kaui
Title: Re: which 2 islands in HI
Post by: JEWDA on March 28, 2012, 12:59:07 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=2098.0
Title: maui vs honolulu
Post by: arid on April 26, 2012, 09:04:41 PM
was looking for some input.
im going to hawaii this summer for about 11 days
i definitely wanna see lava, so we are for sure gong to the big island.
the question becomes honolulu vs maui.
what does one have that the other doesnt? pros and cons? what does one have the the big island doesnt?
any and all input is appreciated  :)
Title: Re: Re: maui vs honolulu
Post by: sky121 on April 26, 2012, 09:06:32 PM
was looking for some input.
im going to hawaii this summer for about 11 days
i definitely wanna see lava, so we are for sure gong to the big island.
the question becomes honolulu vs maui.
what does one have that the other doesnt? pros and cons? what does one have the the big island doesnt?
any and all input is appreciated  :)

From what I've researched I'd say Maui.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on June 07, 2012, 05:50:08 PM
http://www.oahukosher.com/  says they r closed. Does anyone know if this is for good or only now during the winter. Does that mean one cant get kosher food on kauai?

The restaurant is closed, but he still makes food on request and can send to other island AFAIK.

I sent them an email for my upcoming trip in July to Maui and Kauai and he told me he could ship to Maui and Kauai. Or only to Maui and I ll shlep the Kauai's portions myself. The delivery per their website is $75. And here is their menu and prices (http://www.oahukosher.com/delivery.htm). Anyone had any experience with them? Or I should just prepare everything myself?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2012, 06:14:30 PM
There's also:
http://jerusalemkosherdeli.com/index.html
http://www.facebook.com/falafelinparadise
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on June 07, 2012, 06:21:01 PM
There's also:
http://jerusalemkosherdeli.com/index.html
http://www.facebook.com/falafelinparadise
Wow amazing!

Have u ever tried any of those or consider them for your next trip? Or u r sticking to your wife s cooking and Labriute meals?
Also, in Maui, do u think the hyatt's kosher food will be enough in addition to the groceries from costco?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on June 07, 2012, 06:23:09 PM
Those places opened after our trip in December.

I don't think you'll want to eat at the Hyatt for more than a dinner or 2 max.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on June 07, 2012, 06:32:38 PM
Those places opened after our trip in December.

I don't think you'll want to eat at the Hyatt for more than a dinner or 2 max.
I think i ll go with costco for breakfast, sandwiches for lunch, ~$500 worth of dinners from one of those places for 8 days and shabbos food from chabbad maui...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yordai Dooma on June 07, 2012, 07:28:53 PM
Has anyone here had from any food from any of these places? what about delivered to Kauai?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on June 07, 2012, 08:18:08 PM
I had from Oahu kosher, was a great sandwich, and yudi is a great guy. The Hyatt in Maui has airline milchig and fleishig, so as Dan said, doubt you wanna eat more than a meal or 2
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on June 07, 2012, 08:52:08 PM
I had from Oahu kosher, was a great sandwich, and yudi is a great guy. The Hyatt in Maui has airline milchig and fleishig, so as Dan said, doubt you wanna eat more than a meal or 2

Yeah Yudi is the one who sent me the email. Did u get everything delivered at the hotel? did u try anything besides sandwiches?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on June 07, 2012, 09:23:22 PM
Yeah Yudi is the one who sent me the email. Did u get everything delivered at the hotel? did u try anything besides sandwiches?
yes he delivered to the Hyatt, was waiting when I arrived. I might of had fries as well, can't remember.was a good sandwich, up to par with any take out place imo
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on June 07, 2012, 09:31:05 PM
yes he delivered to the Hyatt, was waiting when I arrived. I might of had fries as well, can't remember.was a good sandwich, up to par with any take out place imo
I guess i am missing something. U ordered one sandwich and fries from oahu to maui? And paid the $75 delivery lol?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on June 07, 2012, 11:01:34 PM
um, no. was answering your 2 questions, had sandwiches in oahu, and airline food in hyatt maui
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on June 07, 2012, 11:05:18 PM
um, no. was answering your 2 questions, had sandwiches in oahu, and airline food in hyatt maui
So u dont have real experience of the whole delivery to other island thing right? Thx for the input
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on June 07, 2012, 11:40:35 PM
So u dont have real experience of the whole delivery to other island thing right? Thx for the input
no, sorry, although i looked into it, IIRC it was expensive and involved hassle, like picking it up ay the terminal or something
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: chuchem on June 08, 2012, 05:56:19 AM
When going to Kauai, does one have 2 options now?

http://www.oahukosher.com/ and http://jerusalemkosherdeli.com/index.html   ??

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on June 08, 2012, 10:37:51 AM
When going to Kauai, does one have 2 options now?

http://www.oahukosher.com/ and http://jerusalemkosherdeli.com/index.html   ??
Those are both Oahu based and there is this Hawaii based option: http://www.facebook.com/falafelinparadise

Plus of course there's kosher food at Costco, Safeway, and Walmart on Maui and Kauai and there's Whole Foods, Lahaina Farms, and Mana Foods on Maui with lots of kosher foods.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sruly on June 12, 2012, 12:37:19 PM
for a 7-8 night stay what is the best option 1 or 2 islands ?

looking for quiet relax quieter beach.

i have spg points.

is it worth going to hilo for a day ? can you drive up and see the volcano or do you need to take the helicopter ride ?

thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: chuchem on June 12, 2012, 01:41:42 PM
When going to Kauai, does one have 2 options now?

http://www.oahukosher.com/ and http://jerusalemkosherdeli.com/index.html   ??



I emailed both twice and didnt get a reply, not very customer friendly.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sruly on June 12, 2012, 01:59:14 PM
is there anyway to get free back from ogg-lih

i am united platinum and booking for 5k miles

they can put me on Peninsula Airways or hawaiin airlines or island air,

if not free who charges the cheapest for baggage ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Avid Reader on June 13, 2012, 09:33:58 AM
for a 7-8 night stay what is the best option 1 or 2 islands ?

looking for quiet relax quieter beach.

i have spg points.

is it worth going to hilo for a day ? can you drive up and see the volcano or do you need to take the helicopter ride ?

thanks
I'd recommend Maui if it's your first visit.
Definitely worth going to Hilo for a day IMO, and yes you can drive, you don't need a helicopter.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dhalpern1 on June 13, 2012, 11:30:19 AM
I'd recommend Maui if it's your first visit.
Definitely worth going to Hilo for a day IMO, and yes you can drive, you don't need a helicopter.

+1 on Maui. Kauai is incredible also.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on June 13, 2012, 11:35:14 AM
They're all incredible...it's Hawaii :D
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18475
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dhalpern1 on June 13, 2012, 11:37:40 AM
They're all incredible...it's Hawaii :D
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18475

Yea, saw your thread on this. We stayed at the Fairmont in Maui also, my wife and I wanted to move there full time.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sruly on June 13, 2012, 07:30:15 PM
They're all incredible...it's Hawaii :D
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18475
so maui it is.

which hotel is better (spg gold member)
sheraton or westin ?
Title: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 01:27:10 PM
If one only had 4 nights in HI, would Kauai be better or Maui?

Also, can someone suggest the best *W with C+P in either location?
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: dhalpern1 on July 11, 2012, 01:29:45 PM
If one only had 4 nights in HI, would Kauai be better or Maui?

Also, can someone suggest the best *W with C+P in either location?

I think Maui has better beaches with relaxation as well as active stuff, Kauai is much more active with more to explore (it is incredible). It depends on your personality type. For me, I like Maui better.
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2012, 01:58:27 PM
I'd pit kauais poipu or polihale beach up against any Maui beach.
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: dhalpern1 on July 11, 2012, 02:01:49 PM
I'd pit kauais poipu or polihale beach up against any Maui beach.

I didnt love the poipu beach, didnt see the other one. I feel like Maui can be geared towards relaxing while Kauai is more active.
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 02:06:49 PM
@Dan - able to recommend any *W with good C+P?
Title: Re: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: robi on July 11, 2012, 03:25:40 PM
I didnt love the poipu beach, didnt see the other one. I feel like Maui can be geared towards relaxing while Kauai is more active.
funny,I found the exact opposite to be true
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2012, 04:35:04 PM
I didnt love the poipu beach, didnt see the other one. I feel like Maui can be geared towards relaxing while Kauai is more active.
Poipu beach has some of the best snorkeling anywhere, I always see turtles, whales, dolphins, and sea lions there.
Polihale Beach is 12 miles of empty beach framed by Na Pali at the end and Ni'ihau in the distance.

What's not to love?

@Dan - able to recommend any *W with good C+P?
SPG is generally a disappointment in HI.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 05:08:22 PM
Good to know.

If one is going to do either LIH or OGG, is it worth it to splurge on the direct EWR-HNL in F?

Pros: non-stop; F = lie flat on that route IIRC
Cons: must then get to LIH/OGG; can't stopover in LAX
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2012, 05:11:22 PM
Good to know.

If one is going to do either LIH or OGG, is it worth it to splurge on the direct EWR-HNL in F?

Pros: non-stop; F = lie flat on that route IIRC
Cons: must then get to LIH/OGG; can't stopover in LAX
Definitely worth going F via EWR or IAH, but those are hard to come by.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 05:28:03 PM
Definitely worth going F via EWR or IAH, but those are hard to come by.

Yeah, I'm seeing what you mean. There isn't one date with saver J, let alone saver F, in the next month EWR-HNL.

Worth it to splurge on F NYC-LAX-HNL?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2012, 05:30:59 PM
Yeah, I'm seeing what you mean. There isn't one date with saver J, let alone saver F, in the next month EWR-HNL.

Worth it to splurge on F NYC-LAX-HNL?
NIMHO.
Did you look for IAH-HNL and for return flights to IAH and EWR?

Too bad you missed this:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18429
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 05:32:42 PM
NIMHO.
Did you look for IAH-HNL and for return flights to IAH and EWR?

Too bad you missed this:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18429

I recall fondly... and regret. Just like I regret not pulling the trigger on the SQ glitch.

While I appreciate having a job, it's time like the above when I feel like I should just work for myself.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on July 11, 2012, 05:36:13 PM
NIMHO.
Did you look for IAH-HNL and for return flights to IAH and EWR?

Too bad you missed this:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18429

Yeah, I looked IAH-HNL - there is def more availability there. Thanks for the thought.

If it isn't worth for F on the other route, is it even worth J?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2012, 05:38:02 PM
Yeah, I looked IAH-HNL - there is def more availability there. Thanks for the thought.

If it isn't worth for F on the other route, is it even worth J?
Than go via IAH, no question. 

And search for IAD-HNL.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shmuelb on July 11, 2012, 05:58:52 PM
OT- Dan, 4 more posts!!! How many more minutes?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: damaxer91 on July 11, 2012, 10:53:55 PM
Has anyone made it to "Falafel in Paradise"?

http://www.greatrestaurantsmag.com/KOSHER/restaurants/515/falafel-in-paradise
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 11, 2012, 10:55:44 PM
Nope.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: adam0619 on July 13, 2012, 09:37:02 AM
I was looking at information about SRP and saw this on their website:

"Our chefs can also prepare or heat up kosher meals; a $20 surcharge is added for this service." (source: http://www.starwoodhotels.com/stregis/property/dining/index.html?propertyID=189)

Anyone know anything about this?  Anyone used it?  Recommend/avoid?  And most importantly - any info about the reliability?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2012, 09:41:21 AM
Sure, bring them kosher meals and they'll heat it for $20/meal :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: adam0619 on July 13, 2012, 10:02:08 AM
Sure, bring them kosher meals and they'll heat it for $20/meal :P

 ;)

I'm thrown off by the "prepare OR heat up kosher meals," which sounds like they do more than just merely heating up food you give them.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on July 13, 2012, 12:46:36 PM
Sure, bring them kosher meals and they'll heat it for $20/meal :P
Or just insist on the fact that u really just need them to pick up the box from the freezer and bring it to your room and that u dont want any preparation, plates, etc and they will waive the daily charge :) but of course YMMV
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2012, 01:25:22 PM
Or just insist on the fact that u really just need them to pick up the box from the freezer and bring it to your room and that u dont want any preparation, plates, etc and they will waive the daily charge :) but of course YMMV
I just ask for an extra fridge and keep everything in the room.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on July 13, 2012, 01:35:51 PM
I just ask for an extra fridge and keep everything in the room.
U never found it kind of risky especially if u switch island in the middle to keep frozen food in your fridge for almost 2 weeks?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 13, 2012, 01:46:09 PM
We've been in HI for as long as a month at a time, ff course we had them keep food for onward islands in their freezer :D
Sometimes we had them keep food for later in the week in their freezer and had them bring 1 bag of food up mid-stay and the rest up at the end.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: businessmachine on July 13, 2012, 02:14:39 PM
Yossi....get off dansdeals and enjoy Hawaii man!!!  :) :) :) :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: adam0619 on July 15, 2012, 01:04:35 PM
Has anyone used the Entertainment Coupon Books (http://hawaii.entertainment.com/discount/browse.shtml (http://www.dansdeals.com/go/entertainment1/)) for Hawaii?  Is it a worthwhile purchase (although it's on sale now for $8.95 + free shipping, so I imagine it can't be a bad idea to get it for 8.95...)

Also, I've heard Island Air is pretty horrendous.  Is it worth it to spend the extra $$ to go on Hawaiian?  It would be an extra $45/ticket.  AA doesn't have available flights for the day I went using miles.

Is it worth it to transfer MR points to Hawaiian for the tickets, or better to spend the $$ and save the MR for other uses?

As usual, thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on July 17, 2012, 12:12:13 AM
Have a trip planned to LIH next Jan from sun-thu. Have a tue-mon vacation coming up at the end of August. Should I do a quick Hawaii run to another Island? Being that this will be over shabbos should i just spend my time in Honolulu?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on July 17, 2012, 07:54:55 AM
Bump..anyone? can I stick in LA for tue and wed and HNL for fri shabb sun?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: businessmachine on July 17, 2012, 08:26:00 AM
Mocha, I really don't think 3 days is enough for a trip to HI. While you can pretty much do HNL over 3 days, the fact that shabbos is in the middle doesen't help as well. If I were you, I would extend the december one by 3 or 4 days and check out HNL then.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on July 17, 2012, 08:34:40 AM
Mocha, I really don't think 3 days is enough for a trip to HI. While you can pretty much do HNL over 3 days, the fact that shabbos is in the middle doesen't help as well. If I were you, I would extend the december one by 3 or 4 days and check out HNL then.
Thanks. What if i did tue/wed through sunday/monday?
also id there any island that would have an eiruv around the hotel for shabbos? (Im with a 6 month old)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2012, 11:18:43 AM
Thanks. What if i did tue/wed through sunday/monday?
also id there any island that would have an eiruv around the hotel for shabbos? (Im with a 6 month old)
An eiruv around the hotel? Are you joking?
Perhaps stick with the hotel that chabad of HNL is located in (assuming they are still located there)?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on July 17, 2012, 11:26:36 AM
An eiruv around the hotel? Are you joking?
Perhaps stick with the hotel that chabad of HNL is located in (assuming they are still located there)?
okay perhaps I'll stay in the Westin and change hotels just for Shabbos. Is arriving there Tuesday night and leaving Sunday too short?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2012, 11:28:16 AM
okay perhaps I'll stay in the Westin and change hotels just for Shabbos. Is arriving there Tuesday night and leaving Sunday too short?
If you're changing hotels, probably a day too short.
But I'm the guy that went to HI for the first time for 48 hours (albeit for $87 all-inclusive)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on July 17, 2012, 11:52:12 AM
If you're changing hotels, probably a day too short.
But I'm the guy that went to HI for the first time for 48 hours (albeit for $87 all-inclusive)
Would I be crazy to first go to LA on Tuesday to Thursday and then Honolulu through Monday? Like this I can catch a night in tierra sur  :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on July 17, 2012, 11:57:24 AM
Would I be crazy to first go to LA on Tuesday to Thursday and then Honolulu through Monday? Like this I can catch a night in tierra sur  :)
i think so, especially if you switch to the hotel chabad is in, because with your child you wont be able to leave the hotel, which is a walk from thw waikiki beaches. stick to LA IMO
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on July 17, 2012, 12:06:34 PM
i think so, especially if you switch to the hotel chabad is in, because with your child you wont be able to leave the hotel, which is a walk from thw waikiki beaches. stick to LA IMO
Darn. I just did la last summer and was pretty bored. I don't have relatives there so shabbos there would also be a bore..
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 17, 2012, 12:26:59 PM
Would I be crazy to first go to LA on Tuesday to Thursday and then Honolulu through Monday?
Yes.
And Oahu is fine as long as you get out of Honolulu every day.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: adam0619 on July 18, 2012, 01:25:53 AM
Seems like this is the right thread for this (maybe a new thread for gear?)

Anyone have recommendations about the type of shoe to wear while hiking in Hawaii?  I'd like to bring an all-purpose shoe - hiking through trails, some rougher terrain, in water, through mud... Any specific suggestions about which type of shoe to get?

Also, suggestions for women's shoes would be appreciated too - the wife needs to bring a pair as well :-)

I'm thinking something amphibious, like http://www.backcountry.com/the-north-face-hedgefrog-pro-water-shoe-mens (http://www.backcountry.com/the-north-face-hedgefrog-pro-water-shoe-mens) or http://www.backcountry.com/the-north-face-hedgefrog-pro-water-shoe-mens (http://www.backcountry.com/the-north-face-hedgefrog-pro-water-shoe-mens)

I could always bring regular sneakers, but I have a feeling it would be a better idea to get shoes that are more water-friendly. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 18, 2012, 11:06:51 AM
Tabi's are perfect.  They sell them in WalMart on all 4 major Hawaiian islands.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ShlockDoc on July 24, 2012, 04:07:48 PM
Has anyone gone to a Luau while in Hawaii?  They all look like fressfests so I don't know if they are worth the price if we can't eat.   We'll be in Maui and Big Island from 8/12 to 8/21.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dhalpern1 on July 24, 2012, 04:51:25 PM
Has anyone gone to a Luau while in Hawaii?  They all look like fressfests so I don't know if they are worth the price if we can't eat.   We'll be in Maui and Big Island from 8/12 to 8/21.

You are right, they are around $100 for food you cant eat at all. I wonder if any of the hotels (Hyatt) would bring in Kosher..
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on July 24, 2012, 04:54:12 PM
You are right, they are around $100 for food you cant eat at all. I wonder if any of the hotels (Hyatt) would bring in Kosher..
Hilton in Waikiki offers kosher food
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on July 24, 2012, 05:05:41 PM
You are right, they are around $100 for food you cant eat at all. I wonder if any of the hotels (Hyatt) would bring in Kosher..
If I remember correctly, the one in Maui was $105 and they had fire torches jugglers with a buffet by the beach. Since the hotel provides kosher food, I m pretty sure it would be easy to ask them to bring it to the show (of course u'll have to pay for it in addition to the Luau).
GHK: $97.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 24, 2012, 05:15:14 PM
Yup, Hyatt Maui will get you knosher food.
But you can often watch them from the side.  Never really piqued my interest.
Title: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: yyman1 on July 31, 2012, 10:15:47 PM
My wife and I are planning a trip to HI next month. We are doing 10 days: Mon-Fri on the Big Island, Shabbos in Honolulu and then Sun-Wed in Kauai. So two question for you - we are thinking of checking out the volcano in Hilo but am unsure if we need to spend the night or we can do it as part of a day trip. Second, we are going to fly to Kauai on Sunday - should we do it later in the day (and spend more time in Honolulu) or leave earlier in the day and spend the majority of the date in Kauai. Also, would that give us enough time to pick up food from Chabad on Sunday morning in Honolulu.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: yehuda S on August 12, 2012, 12:15:32 PM
I just reserved a trip on United to Hawaii. Since this is the first time I'd be actually redeeming miles for flights, I was wondering if there is any area on the forum detailing how to get to HI with United miles. I've been sifting through the forum but can't find specific directions.

Otherwise, if anyone familiar with getting the most out of United miles could PM me so I can ask questions w/o clogging the forum with noob Qs. I won't take up too much time. Thanks.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: yehuda S on August 12, 2012, 06:18:45 PM
Anyone know why United Business saver award to hawaii only allows you to select business class seats for one of the flights?

E.G. NYC -> Boston: Business class
       BOS -> LIH: Economy    ???

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 12, 2012, 07:23:36 PM
1. United does not fly BOS-LIH.
2. When searching for awards search for the overseas segment first from every hub, then work on the domestic connection.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: yehuda S on August 12, 2012, 07:51:48 PM
Thanks. I see that the flights I booked said 'mixed cabin' and I overlooked that..
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: yehuda S on August 12, 2012, 08:05:08 PM
Btw, Why can I hold some flights for free, but for others I need to purchase FareLock?
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on August 12, 2012, 08:06:06 PM
Btw, Why can I hold some flights for free, but for others I need to purchase FareLock?

+1 It seems very random to me. Anyone know how it works?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: yehuda S on August 12, 2012, 08:33:05 PM
I had reserved three flights before it prompted to buy farelock. Do you get a few freebies before it kicks in?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on September 06, 2012, 07:03:24 PM
I have flights booked for 11/11-11/20, going EWR-LAX on UA and LAX-LIH on AA, and coming back KOA-LAX on AA and LAX-EWR on UA.

This is the first time I'm flying different legs on different carriers (and of course different tickets). How does it work regarding checked baggage, could they be checked through from one carrier to the next? Will I have to pay luggage fees twice? The layovers in LAX are almost six hours going, and 90 minutes coming back. Does that matter at all? 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Devorah on September 23, 2012, 04:21:07 AM
I am considering stopping in Hawaii on our way back from Australia next summer.  We will be traveling with our 4 kids, ages 18 months, 4, 6 and 9.  Looking for suggestions on which Island is most kid-friendly, places to stay and things to do.  Will probably arrive in HNL on Sunday morning and depart Wednesday evening.

Thanx.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on September 23, 2012, 09:50:23 PM
I am considering stopping in Hawaii on our way back from Australia next summer.  We will be traveling with our 4 kids, ages 18 months, 4, 6 and 9.  Looking for suggestions on which Island is most kid-friendly, places to stay and things to do.  Will probably arrive in HNL on Sunday morning and depart Wednesday evening.

Thanx.
If your leaving Oahu I'd say Maui.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Devorah on September 24, 2012, 02:01:16 AM
If your leaving Oahu I'd say Maui.
Do you think we have enough time to enjoy Maui or should we just stay on Oahu - is there stuff to do on Oahu for kids? Thanks for your response.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on September 27, 2012, 05:09:16 PM
What do you recommend?
I am going to Hawaii for the 1st time, landing in HNL Thursday night approx 7:35, and leaving back to the mainland 10 days later Saturday night.
Should I fly the night I land to OGG and spend my time in Maui until Thursday and come back to Honolulu for Shabbat to catch my flight back or do I stay in Honolulu the 1st weekend and fly to OGG Saturday night / Sunday morning until Friday and come back to spend Shabbat in Honolulu?

My wife wants to visit Pearl Harbor and possibly something else in the Honolulu area, would 1 Friday morning be enough time to see that?

Thank you for your time
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2012, 05:17:51 PM
Should I fly the night I land to OGG and spend my time in Maui until Thursday and come back to Honolulu for Shabbat to catch my flight back.
That.
My wife wants to visit Pearl Harbor and possibly something else in the Honolulu area, would 1 Friday morning be enough time to see that?
Yes.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on September 27, 2012, 07:27:14 PM
That.Yes.
I am scheduled to land in HNL at 7:35 pm (on United from EWR), do you think I'll be able to make the 9:56 pm flight (last flight on Hawaiinair) that night or I might be pushing my luck there?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 27, 2012, 07:48:21 PM
I am scheduled to land in HNL at 7:35 pm (on United from EWR), do you think I'll be able to make the 9:56 pm flight (last flight on Hawaiinair) that night or I might be pushing my luck there?
You can make it with half that connection time.
Email me to book Hawaiian tickets with free baggage.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: abe1 on October 17, 2012, 11:50:01 AM
Hi,

trying to help a friend to book 2 tickets from HNL to LIH departing sun 11/25 & returning 11/28 
what's the cheapest way miles or $ & where should i search for availability?

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MLM on November 07, 2012, 02:49:21 PM
I am looking to go to Hawaii again for my 4th time. So far I went to Kauai twice for 3 days each. And Maui once for 3 days. I never made it to Hana or the south of the Island. I would like to go for another 3 days to an Island Should I do Maui again and make sure to see the South or should I try the big Island instead?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on November 07, 2012, 02:50:59 PM
I am looking to go to Hawaii again for my 4th time. So far I went to Kauai twice for 3 days each. And Maui once for 3 days. I never made it to Hana or the south of the Island. I would like to go for another 3 days to an Island Should I do Maui again and make sure to see the South or should I try the big Island instead?

What month are you going in?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2012, 02:51:49 PM
I am looking to go to Hawaii again for my 4th time. So far I went to Kauai twice for 3 days each. And Maui once for 3 days. I never made it to Hana or the south of the Island. I would like to go for another 3 days to an Island Should I do Maui again and make sure to see the South or should I try the big Island instead?
It may just be me, but flying 2 days to be somewhere for 3 days seems like a form of torture, not vacation.
Why not stay at least 5 days somewhere?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MLM on November 07, 2012, 02:54:12 PM
It may just be me, but flying 2 days to be somewhere for 3 days seems like a form of torture, not vacation.
Why not stay at least 5 days somewhere?

Ill be flying from LA it will be a boys trip. Cant leave the wives and kids for too much longer.  Did it last summer in Kauai was amazing!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MLM on November 07, 2012, 02:54:35 PM
What month are you going in?

July
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2012, 02:58:12 PM
Ill be flying from LA it will be a boys trip. Cant leave the wives and kids for too much longer.  Did it last summer in Kauai was amazing!
Oh wow. Cool.
Thought you were coming from NYC with your wife or something.

In that case do Kauai's Kalalau trail for all 3 days!
Title: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MLM on November 07, 2012, 03:03:46 PM
Oh wow. Cool.
Thought you were coming from NYC with your wife or something.

You could really pack in a lot with just boys! In 2.5 days in kauai we did one day chilling then hike with guide to guardian falls then scuba diving capt Andy's and zip lining!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MLM on November 07, 2012, 03:07:00 PM
Oh wow. Cool.

In that case do Kauai's Kalalau trail for all 3 days!

We really want to see another Island or try something new e.g. (Hana South Maui) So what do you think is better?

Or we can do Sun night LAX-KOA fly to OGG on Tues night and leave Thursday noon for OGG. But I feel it will be too shleppy. Currently, I am reserved for OGG Sun night to Thursday 1PM
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on November 07, 2012, 03:09:30 PM
We really want to see another Island or try something new e.g. (Hana South Maui) So what do you think is better?

Or we can do Sun night LAX-KOA fly to OGG on Tues night and leave Thursday noon for OGG. But I feel it will be too shleppy. Currently, I am reserved for OGG Sun night to Thursday 1PM
What did you do your last time in Maui?
Title: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MLM on November 07, 2012, 03:10:57 PM
North and Wailea plus Helicopter
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on November 07, 2012, 03:15:20 PM
If you're looking for another island then do the big island.  Plenty of awesome hiking and stuff there (Waipio Valley, Volcano Natl Park, etc) or even jeeping around Mauna Kea.

Though camping out for a couple nights while hiking the world famous Kalalau trail has been something of a fantasy of mine and I'd love to have a DDF'er do it so that I can experience it vicariously thought a TR.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on November 07, 2012, 03:17:33 PM
North and Wailea plus Helicopter
u definitely have a lot that you can do besides Hana (I personally did it in one day, but some people can do it in 2 days or more if you are into hikes...) - but like Dan said, if u have that time for hikes, spend it on Kalalau trail...
You can snorkel/scuba around molokini (even if in july, it is YMMV if a boat will bring you there)
You can go for a day on Molokai island
Check out Black Rock at Ka'anapali beach (best snorkeling I have ever experienced)
and of course since i feel you guys are the adventurous type you can do the powered hang glider ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Chai on November 29, 2012, 09:15:53 PM
HI ALL!!! we are 3 girls going to Hawaii Jan 25  ( Friday ) - Feb 3rd ( Sunday)

I read 20 pages of this forum and found it super informative and helpful. THANK you for that.
Being that Hawaiian Air has rates for about $400 and change that time, i think we will book on that airline.. correct?

A- Do i fly directly into Honolulu as thats the only direct flight and then take inter air flights to other islands?
B- How many Islands should i research for those amount of days? and which would you vote as the top 3?
C- Any great hotel rates or deals youve seen around? I do have SPG amex and have about 100,000 points on it? Should i book hotels threw that? ive never booked with points yet, so im new to this ( ducking my head )
D- Being that we will be there 2 shabbosim and truly dont want to carry so much food, where is the nicest place to be for shakos
E- Any sit down kosher restaurants there?
F- if anyone has ANY additional info, tips, ideas, recommendations, itinerary, activities, car rental info, ALL suggestions would be amazing.
G- If i know which islands i must go to i will go out and buy the tour book you recommended.

THANKS!!!!  ;D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on November 30, 2012, 01:11:18 AM
HI ALL!!! we are 3 girls going to Hawaii Jan 25  ( Friday ) - Feb 3rd ( Sunday)

I read 20 pages of this forum and found it super informative and helpful. THANK you for that.
Being that Hawaiian Air has rates for about $400 and change that time, i think we will book on that airline.. correct?

A- Do i fly directly into Honolulu as thats the only direct flight and then take inter air flights to other islands?
B- How many Islands should i research for those amount of days? and which would you vote as the top 3?
C- Any great hotel rates or deals youve seen around? I do have SPG amex and have about 100,000 points on it? Should i book hotels threw that? ive never booked with points yet, so im new to this ( ducking my head )
D- Being that we will be there 2 shabbosim and truly dont want to carry so much food, where is the nicest place to be for shakos
E- Any sit down kosher restaurants there?
F- if anyone has ANY additional info, tips, ideas, recommendations, itinerary, activities, car rental info, ALL suggestions would be amazing.
G- If i know which islands i must go to i will go out and buy the tour book you recommended.

THANKS!!!!  ;D
A: correct
B: I would think Kaui, Maui and the Big island. I would not do more than 2 though over 8 days. Right now there is alot of volcanic activity on the big island (it is all over the news so that is something to consider)
C: SPG is not that great in Hawai
G: MAui revealed on the islands you pick
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on November 30, 2012, 01:16:26 AM
HI ALL!!! we are 3 girls going to Hawaii Jan 25  ( Friday ) - Feb 3rd ( Sunday)

I read 20 pages of this forum and found it super informative and helpful. THANK you for that.
Being that Hawaiian Air has rates for about $400 and change that time, i think we will book on that airline.. correct?

A- Do i fly directly into Honolulu as thats the only direct flight and then take inter air flights to other islands?
B- How many Islands should i research for those amount of days? and which would you vote as the top 3?
C- Any great hotel rates or deals youve seen around? I do have SPG amex and have about 100,000 points on it? Should i book hotels threw that? ive never booked with points yet, so im new to this ( ducking my head )
D- Being that we will be there 2 shabbosim and truly dont want to carry so much food, where is the nicest place to be for shakos
E- Any sit down kosher restaurants there?
F- if anyone has ANY additional info, tips, ideas, recommendations, itinerary, activities, car rental info, ALL suggestions would be amazing.
G- If i know which islands i must go to i will go out and buy the tour book you recommended.

THANKS!!!!  ;D


I'd do Maui and Kauai and perhaps the big island. What kind of things are you interested in doing?

Also, how was your trip to Spain? We never got a trip report.


You can use your SPG points to book the St. Regis Princeville or the Westin on the north side of Kauai.

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 03, 2012, 06:13:04 PM
Hey Folks,

When would be the best time to visit Hawaii between now and the end of February?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 03, 2012, 06:14:32 PM
Hey Folks,

When would be the best time to visit Hawaii between now and the end of February?

Anytime really though I would imagine you'll have a harder time with availability during the holiday season as well as Winter Break and Spring Break.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 04, 2012, 01:52:52 PM
Do you suggest going in February? Or is that still considered to be holiday time?

And what is the weather usually like around then?

Cheers
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2012, 01:53:58 PM
The weather in HI is perfect year-round.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 04, 2012, 02:37:07 PM
And do you think there will be lots of award availability end of January beginning of February from LA?

BTW, Nice menorahs you sponsored at Farbi last night!

Cheers
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 05, 2012, 03:08:54 PM
Folks! any ideas on best time to go for award availability up until end of February?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 05, 2012, 03:14:24 PM
Folks! any ideas on best time to go for award availability up until end of February?


Why not just look at the award chart availability and work your way from there if you are flexible?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 05, 2012, 04:17:22 PM
Where do i find this chart? Excuse  my ignorance :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 09, 2012, 08:32:28 PM
Where do i find this chart? Excuse  my ignorance :)

What airline are you looking to fly on? What points are you looking to book with?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 10, 2012, 07:37:57 PM
What airline are you looking to fly on? What points are you looking to book with?

Iam looking to use Avios and UR points . any airline that will accept these is fine.

Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 10, 2012, 07:41:18 PM
Iam looking to use Avios and UR points . any airline that will accept these is fine.

Much appreciated.
And where are you travelling from?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 10, 2012, 10:11:17 PM
And where are you travelling from?

Los Angeles.

I also have United miles...

Would like to go to Kaui as the main stay and maui and Ohau as a pass by.

Thanks!
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 10, 2012, 10:14:17 PM
Los Angeles.

I also have United miles...

Would like to go to Kaui as the main stay and maui and Ohau as a pass by.

Thanks!

So maybe start searching with your BA miles.  Would be a good use of miles.
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 10, 2012, 10:19:07 PM
So maybe start searching with your BA miles.  Would be a good use of miles.
+1 I wish I lived in LA so that I could get to HI so easily!
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 10, 2012, 11:09:44 PM
So maybe start searching with your BA miles.  Would be a good use of miles.

I can search for miles but i am unsure how to go about looking for hotel availability with my available miles. Can you help me with this?

Cheers
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 10, 2012, 11:10:49 PM
+1 I wish I lived in LA so that I could get to HI so easily!

Living here there is not much cashed left to visit hawaii! :)
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 10, 2012, 11:10:56 PM
I can search for miles but i am unsure how to go about looking for hotel availability with my available miles. Can you help me with this?

Cheers

do you gave any Starwood points? Or Chase UR points? 
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 11, 2012, 03:07:42 AM
do you gave any Starwood points? Or Chase UR points?

I have 60k starwoods
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 11, 2012, 11:00:34 AM
I have 60k starwoods

And I have quite a few Chase UR points.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 11, 2012, 11:04:35 AM
And I have quite a few Chase UR points.


Great, both Starwood and Hyatt ( a transfer partner of Chase UR) have great hotel options.
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 11, 2012, 06:16:39 PM

Great, both Starwood and Hyatt ( a transfer partner of Chase UR) have great hotel options.

Great! booked into the westin with the spg on Maui and now I need to find a good option with UR points on Kuaui. nay idea?  From 20th jan to 24th Jan.

Thanks
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on December 11, 2012, 06:17:52 PM
Great! booked into the westin with the spg on Maui and now I need to find a good option with UR points on Kuaui. nay idea?  From 20th jan to 24th Jan.

Thanks
What about the Hyatt Kauai :) Beautiful rooms and grounds
Title: Re: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 11, 2012, 06:18:17 PM
Great! booked into the westin with the spg on Maui and now I need to find a good option with UR points on Kuaui. nay idea?  From 20th jan to 24th Jan.

Thanks

How about the Grand Hyatt Kauai at 22,000 points a night?

Or they have a couple of Starwood hotels as well depending on where you'd like to stay on the island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 11, 2012, 06:21:51 PM
Great! booked into the westin with the spg on Maui and now I need to find a good option with UR points on Kuaui. nay idea?  From 20th jan to 24th Jan.

Thanks
Personally I'd use the UR points and stay at Hyatt on Maui and Kauai. SPG is really weak besides for Oahu.

Though it may make sense to sell the UR and just pay for those properties.  Have a Diamond book and also get free kosher brekkie.
Or better yet, pay for the Fairmont Maui, a gem of a property.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on December 12, 2012, 03:24:54 AM
Personally I'd use the UR points and stay at Hyatt on Maui and Kauai. SPG is really weak besides for Oahu.

Though it may make sense to sell the UR and just pay for those properties.  Have a Diamond book and also get free kosher brekkie.
Or better yet, pay for the Fairmont Maui, a gem of a property.

Dan,

Would you be kind enough to book me into those properties as a Diamond member?

Thanks!

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 12, 2012, 11:53:56 AM
Dan,

Would you be kind enough to book me into those properties as a Diamond member?

Thanks!


PM me.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on December 30, 2012, 10:37:02 AM
if i plan on going to hawaii for about a week where should I stay? I have enough chase pts  and it looks like hyatt is the better option vs spg. If im coming from nyc can i tag on another flight from hnl to the smaller islnads? or am i better of staying in hnl area?
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 30, 2012, 11:52:50 AM
if i plan on going to hawaii for about a week where should I stay? I have enough chase pts  and it looks like hyatt is the better option vs spg. If im coming from nyc can i tag on another flight from hnl to the smaller islnads? or am i better of staying in hnl area?

I'd head to Kauai or Maui for the week. You could do both as well.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on December 30, 2012, 01:12:11 PM
It looks like i could fly to maui via lax so its not so bad.. Is that the nicest of all the islands?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2012, 04:08:23 PM
All the islands are nice. It depends on what you're after.
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18475/
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on December 31, 2012, 12:35:50 AM
Anyway to get a wiki in this thread? I don't want to read thru all these pages and I don't want to ask a million questions that have been asked a few days ago. Or is everything I need to know in the post on DD?
Hope I'm not asking for too much!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 31, 2012, 08:17:17 AM
Anyway to get a wiki in this thread? I don't want to read thru all these pages and I don't want to ask a million questions that have been asked a few days ago. Or is everything I need to know in the post on DD?
Hope I'm not asking for too much!

Added links.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 01, 2013, 04:09:48 AM
Added links.
Thanx
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 01, 2013, 09:21:37 AM
Dan, im wondering how i should plan all of this. Im thinking LA for a few days since my wife has never been and we can spend shabbat there easier. Flights from nyc are like $160 so its cheap. Im then thinking to go to the hyatt in kauai for a week.
 I could pay for my flights jfk-lax. Stay at the SLS 12k spg 3 nights. Fly lax-lih using 17.5k 1-way aadvanatge awards each. Then use chase points for the hyatt. Then use 32.5 aadvanatge each for 1-way business back to JFK on AA via LAX.
Am i going about this the right way?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 09:57:53 AM
Dan, im wondering how i should plan all of this. Im thinking LA for a few days since my wife has never been and we can spend shabbat there easier. Flights from nyc are like $160 so its cheap. Im then thinking to go to the hyatt in kauai for a week.
 I could pay for my flights jfk-lax. Stay at the SLS 12k spg 3 nights. Fly lax-lih using 17.5k 1-way aadvanatge awards each. Then use chase points for the hyatt. Then use 32.5 aadvanatge each for 1-way business back to JFK on AA via LAX.
Am i going about this the right way?
Unless you're avoiding HI for shabbos for religious reasons then spend the extra days in HI and not LA.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 01, 2013, 10:07:35 AM
Truth it hard to get to HI on awards for late jan. if i go to LA first it makes the award space from LA. Easier. Plus my wifes never been to LA so its a good chance to go. I am already spending 1 shabbat in hi. I plan on thur to sun am in la and then sun-sun in hi.
Did i break out the points correctly? Is it a good use of points? Lax-lih is an expensive flight (1200) so the 12.5k aadvantage is a steal. The 17.5 business from lih-jfk via lax seems fair as well.
I then plan on usiing 7 free nights at the hyatt for 22k chase pts.
Whats the deal with kosher breakfast at the hyatt? I have platinum status with hyatt.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on January 01, 2013, 10:32:01 AM
Not much to do in la. Much better off with three extra days in Hawaii so you can visit kuaui and Maui
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on January 01, 2013, 10:40:48 AM
Not much to do in la. Much better off with three extra days in Hawaii so you can visit kuaui and Maui
+1. stay in Hawaii as much as you can, see as many isles as you can
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 01, 2013, 10:56:36 AM
Not much to do in la. Much better off with three extra days in Hawaii so you can visit kuaui and Maui
+1 La is nice but Hawaii is probably nicer
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 01, 2013, 11:00:20 AM
Awesome! Il probably do LA for a day just to make flights work out.
You guys are the best thanks for all your help. Seems like kauai is the place to go.
Bottom line 110k AA miles for lax-lih in economy, lih-jfk in business for 2 ppl not bad.
Plus the 22k per night at the hyatt. Hyatt is telling me my last night isnt available on points, i can leave after shabbat and stay at another hotel for a night no big deal. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on January 01, 2013, 11:13:43 AM
If you're going for 10 days I think people would recommend cutting out two islands
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on January 01, 2013, 11:18:09 AM
Hyatt is telling me my last night isnt available on points, i can leave after shabbat and stay at another hotel for a night no big deal. Any suggestions?
Maybe pay for the last night and use a suite upgrade if u have some... U can maybe even ask and they might put u in a suite the entire stay... YMMV of course and try to get an email confirmation in advance
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 01, 2013, 11:48:00 AM
True i could probably pay for a night.. Not the end of the world. Bottom line im psyched over a week in kauai sounds awesome based on what im reading
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 11:50:59 AM
If you're going for 10 days I think people would recommend cutting out two islands
I'd recommend 4-7 days for Maui or Kauai, 1-7 days for the Big Island, and 1-4 days for Oahu.
I've never been to Lanai, Molokai, or Niihau.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 01, 2013, 11:53:44 AM
So maybe i do 4 in maui and 4 in kauai
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 06:18:15 PM
I posted about two Weeks ago about ideas for a vacation in the end of January. Most people wrote that Hawaii is definitely the best option. I understood from reading posts that Kauai is the best for a relaxing vacation.

However I still need lots of information and was wondering if anyone can help me.

First of all I have about 8 days for vacation I can start any day of the week. Should I stay on this island the entire time or is it too long. If so which other one should I visit.

Also should I spend a shabbos there (I don't mind the quiet at all) or should I rather spend it in the mainland.

Now about hotels I saw that the grand Hyatt is the best option. I have ultimate rewards with the sapphire so I can transfer to Hyatt. Do they transfer instantly or does it take time. Also how many points do I need for a night in a room with a ocean view (how much for a suite).

About airlines I have avios, aa, and could get continental.which one would be best to use (the less stops the better).

Also about a car I was wondering if i would be better off with a jeep or a convertible would be just fine (dont love jeeps).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 06:30:17 PM
General forum tip.  Ask 1 question at a time or else you probably won't get a response.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on January 01, 2013, 06:34:29 PM
General forum tip.  Ask 1 question at a time or else you probably won't get a response.

Gospel.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 06:36:04 PM
General forum tip.  Ask 1 question at a time or else you probably won't get a response.
OK Thank for the tip. Lets try again :) :)

I am planning to visit Hawaii by the end of the month. My time frame is 7-8 days (not including time for flight). It seems like Kauai fits my style. Should I stay there for the entire time or do I have time for more than one island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 06:38:58 PM
With 7 days there I'd do Maui or Kauai.
If you can swing 9 days there then do Maui and Kauai.

With 8 days I'd probably do Kauai or Maui and 1 or 2 nights seeing the volcano erupting and/or sunset on Mauna Kea on the Big Island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on January 01, 2013, 06:39:48 PM
OK Thank for the tip. Lets try again :) :)

I am planning to visit Hawaii by the end of the month. My time frame is 7-8 days (not including time for flight). It seems like Kauai fits my style. Should I stay there for the entire time or do I have time for more than one island.

7-8 days total? That means you need to knock off 1-2 days for travel (assuming you're coming from NYC), which means you really have 5-6 days...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 06:43:24 PM
With 7 days there I'd do Maui or Kauai.
If you can swing 9 days there then do Maui and Kauai.

With 8 days I'd probably do Kauai or Maui and 1 or 2 nights seeing the volcano erupting and/or sunset on Mauna Kea on the Big Island.

If I do Maui and Kauai do I split them evenly or one of them needs more time than the other. If I stay 8 days and do as you said do I do that before Kauai or after (or doesnt matter)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 06:44:10 PM
7-8 days total? That means you need to knock off 1-2 days for travel (assuming you're coming from NYC), which means you really have 5-6 days...

not including travel time. 7-8 days in Hawaii
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 06:45:29 PM
If I do Maui and Kauai do I split them evenly or one of them needs more time than the other. If I stay 8 days and do as you said do I do that before Kauai or after (or doesnt matter)
Evenly, though shabbos in Kauai.
Doesn't matter.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 06:51:17 PM
Thanks.

How many points do I need for a night in the Grand Hyatt Kauai (preferably a suite or else a ocean view room). Also is there any way I can see this information on the gold passport website, since I didn't transfer any points into my account there it won't let me see anything.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 06:52:17 PM
http://www.hyatt.com/gp/en/awards/hyatt_free_night.jsp
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 06:57:38 PM
Thanks

Forgive my ignorance. I see a lot of posts about taking a regular room and getting free upgrades???
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on January 01, 2013, 07:13:31 PM
Evenly, though shabbos in Kauai.
Doesn't matter.
if you're interested in minyan, you probably have a better chance in Maui. Contact the rabbi there, very nice fellow
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 07:20:46 PM
If you want a minyan then HNL is where you want to be.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 07:22:08 PM
What about a car I see everyone writing about the need for a 4x4. is it really necessary (I hate Jeeps) and is there a difference in that between Kauai and mauai
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on January 01, 2013, 07:24:20 PM
What about a car I see everyone writing about the need for a 4x4. is it really necessary (I hate Jeeps) and is there a difference in that between Kauai and mauai
the only place you would need a jeep is the road to Hanna in Maui, even then only if you do the full loop. Although if you to get to some private beaches in Maui or Kauai it'll come in handy
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 01, 2013, 07:26:01 PM
You do not need a jeep anywhere on Maui. You can do the Hana loop in any car. On Kauai they can come in handy but you don't need it.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yossi. on January 01, 2013, 07:39:01 PM
the only place you would need a jeep is the road to Hanna in Maui, even then only if you do the full loop. Although if you to get to some private beaches in Maui or Kauai it'll come in handy
+1
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: avi h on January 01, 2013, 07:49:39 PM
About airlines which is my best option using millage between aa avios or continental.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 01, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
You do not need a jeep anywhere on Maui. You can do the Hana loop in any car.
+1 - cannot figure out why anyone feels differently.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on January 02, 2013, 08:20:23 PM
You do not need a jeep anywhere on Maui. You can do the Hana loop in any car. On Kauai they can come in handy but you don't need it.

This is correct, I was there at the end of November I rented a Mustang convertible and did the whole loop on the road to hana, had no problem.
I hope to have my trip notes finished shortly and will post then.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: cherylnlajolla on January 03, 2013, 11:50:54 AM
We went to Kauai this past Thanksgiving - LOVED it!

Where should we go next Thanksgiving - - - should we try another island, or go back to Kauai?  We have 4 kids and love surfing and hiking (we bring our own food in boxes and rent a condo).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on January 03, 2013, 11:52:43 AM
We went to Kauai this past Thanksgiving - LOVED it!

Where should we go next Thanksgiving - - - should we try another island, or go back to Kauai?  We have 4 kids and love surfing and hiking (we bring our own food in boxes and rent a condo).
I wanna move to San Diego
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on January 03, 2013, 11:54:25 AM
I wanna move to San Diego

+.5
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 11:54:50 AM
We went to Kauai this past Thanksgiving - LOVED it!

Where should we go next Thanksgiving - - - should we try another island, or go back to Kauai?  We have 4 kids and love surfing and hiking (we bring our own food in boxes and rent a condo).
Definitely another island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: cherylnlajolla on January 03, 2013, 01:18:21 PM
Dan - which island would you recommend for hiking & surfing?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 01:24:38 PM
Dan - which island would you recommend for hiking & surfing?
They all fit that bill.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 03, 2013, 05:03:03 PM
thanks guy im all set for kauai in the hyatt going the last week of jan.. better option than the st regis correct?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 05:03:42 PM
thanks guy im all set for kauai in the hyatt going the last week of jan.. better option than the st regis correct?
Depends what you're interested in.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on January 03, 2013, 05:04:35 PM
thanks guy im all set for kauai in the hyatt going the last week of jan.. better option than the st regis correct?

Better/Different.


You COULD split it up if you don't mind transferring hotels in the middle of your stay.

I stayed at the Hyatt but it would have been fun to stay on the north side as well. Though I prefer the atmosphere at the Hyatt more than the St. Regis.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 03, 2013, 05:07:35 PM
Depends what you're interested in.

well my wife and I would love to relax on the beach but we dont mind doing some day trips as well like taking the helicopter tour and visiting other beach etc.
id rather save my spg points for europe since they have a better presence than hyatt
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 05:09:06 PM
well my wife and I would love to relax on the beach but we dont mind doing some day trips as well like taking the helicopter tour and visiting other beach etc.
id rather save my spg points for europe since they have a better presence than hyatt
True, but the Hyatts that are in Europe are just fantastic.
If you have the time the idea of splitting between the 2 hotels is a good one.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on January 03, 2013, 05:10:21 PM
well my wife and I would love to relax on the beach but we dont mind doing some day trips as well like taking the helicopter tour and visiting other beach etc.
id rather save my spg points for europe since they have a better presence than hyatt


Next time I go to Kauai I would definitely consider splitting up my time since there were a bunch of places I enjoyed on the north side and it would be nice to have a few days without having to make the 45 minute drive there and back each time I wanted to take a hotel break. 

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 03, 2013, 05:11:41 PM
regarding the travel book you guys suggest this a must?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 05:12:18 PM

Next time I go to Kauai I would definitely consider splitting up my time since there were a bunch of places I enjoyed on the north side and it would be nice to have a few days without having to make the 70-100 minute drive there and back each time I wanted to take a hotel break. 
ftfy
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 05:12:30 PM
regarding the travel book you guys suggest this a must?
Yes.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 03, 2013, 05:13:50 PM
and whats the deal with kosher at the hyatt? i can get kosher meals?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2013, 05:15:37 PM
and whats the deal with kosher at the hyatt? i can get kosher meals?
Not in Kauai AFAIK. But the chef's email has been posted, feel free to ask.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Amusch on January 13, 2013, 10:08:23 AM
Hey Dan,

Long time fan. Planning a trip to Hawaii for a conference I have in the summer, and just finished all 26 pgs of the thread. Thanks for the help. I am not so advanced so I wanted your input (in addition to what I have read) about planning, beginning with flights and hotels. My plan is to go to Honolulu/Oahu for Wed-Sun of the conference, and then spend Sun-Thurs in Kaui or Maui, probably Kaui based on what I have read.

I have 40,000+ SPGs points which seem not very helpful with level 5+ hotels in Hawaii and flights being more miles. A friend recommended getting Chase Sapphire and adding the 40,000 free points to my 30,000+ UR points. Does that help me at your highly recommended GH Kaui? How do you get a suite upgrade? Is it worth it to get the Hyatt card just for this?

I have follow-ups but will start with this. Please advise.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on January 13, 2013, 12:02:18 PM
Even though you addressed your question solely to Dan, I though I might be able to provide some insight.

Yes, getting the the Sapphire Preferred's 40k will help you, as they transfer instantly to Hyatt Gold Passport (HGP).

Each night at the Grand Hyatt Kauai is 22,000 HGP (it's a cat. 6).

If you're going to sign up for the Chase Hyatt CC, it's recommended that you apply as a Diamond member to get the two nights in a suite, plus 4 suite upgrades. You can apply as a diamond member after matching from other hotel statuses, e.g. Hilton Gold, SPG Plat, etc.

If you can do that, it'd be worth it to get it, IMO.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Amusch on January 13, 2013, 07:38:57 PM
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Even though you addressed your question solely to Dan, I though I might be able to provide some insight.

Thank you.

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Yes, getting the the Sapphire Preferred's 40k will help you, as they transfer instantly to Hyatt Gold Passport (HGP).

Each night at the Grand Hyatt Kauai is 22,000 HGP (it's a cat. 6).

Great. Do I need anything else to use HGP points or it works as is with the Sapphire?

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If you're going to sign up for the Chase Hyatt CC, it's recommended that you apply as a Diamond member to get the two nights in a suite, plus 4 suite upgrades. You can apply as a diamond member after matching from other hotel statuses, e.g. Hilton Gold, SPG Plat, etc.

Is Diamond also free first year? What does that mean practically - I can get 2 free suite nights and then upgrade the next four "paid" nights to a suite even if they were bought with points?

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If you can do that, it'd be worth it to get it, IMO.

Thanks again. I'm just nervous about cancelling. My understanding (tell me if I'm wrong) is that the Sapphire can be downgraded to the regular with no fee, and no need to cancel.

Thoughts?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MEIR613 on January 13, 2013, 08:27:29 PM
Thank you.

Great. Do I need anything else to use HGP points or it works as is with the Sapphire?

Is Diamond also free first year? What does that mean practically - I can get 2 free suite nights and then upgrade the next four "paid" nights to a suite even if they were bought with points?

Thanks again. I'm just nervous about cancelling. My understanding (tell me if I'm wrong) is that the Sapphire can be downgraded to the regular with no fee, and no need to cancel.

Thoughts?
1) You need a HGP account than you can transfer the UR to the HGP

2)The card has a 79 fee the first year but entitles you to diamond (worth it IMO)

3) They need to be paid with cash to get upgraded

4) You could downgrade them but if you cancel you can sign up again later.

 Why you nervous about cancelling?

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Chai on January 13, 2013, 09:00:15 PM
We need some really good hotel recommendations .
Maui dates are Jan 24th 2013 till January 28th
Kauai dates from Jan 28th 2013 - february 3rd

It seems the GHK is over 700 a night, and i cant get it for 22,000 points a night.
Anyone have any hotel connections?
Any other really great hotel options in both islands?

Which island do i need to rent a car ? And wheres the best place to rent a car from? Thanks so much
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on January 13, 2013, 10:15:53 PM
We need some really good hotel recommendations .
Maui dates are Jan 24th 2013 till January 28th
Kauai dates from Jan 28th 2013 - february 3rd

It seems the GHK is over 700 a night, and i cant get it for 22,000 points a night.
Anyone have any hotel connections?
Any other really great hotel options in both islands?

Which island do i need to rent a car ? And wheres the best place to rent a car from? Thanks so much

Do you have Starwood points? Try a starwood hotel for Kauai.
And you can use your Hyatt points for Maui perhaps.
I'd rent a car on both islands.

Look for the cheapest rates. I've used Avis in Hawaii.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2013, 10:39:14 PM
For you HI planners, don't forget about the Andaz Wailea opening up this summer in South Maui!  Bookings should open soon and I'd have to guess that it will be a Hyatt category 6.
But it looks oh so awesome and the area is as well.  With the Andaz flag I'll bet it will give other HI hotels a real run for the money.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Amusch on January 13, 2013, 10:47:44 PM
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4) You could downgrade them but if you cancel you can sign up again later.

 Why you nervous about cancelling?

Not sure. I don't like signing up for credit cards and/or cancelling them. I try to keep it simple. Sapphire seems simple; Hyatt card seems less so. If the benefits are that good, I'll consider it. But it seems like the Sapphire is a no brainer?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2013, 10:50:03 PM
Ink will earn more signup points than Sapphire.
And never cancel...leverage.  But this is the wrong thread for this discussion.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Amusch on January 13, 2013, 10:57:41 PM
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Ink will earn more signup points than Sapphire.
And never cancel...leverage.  But this is the wrong thread for this discussion.

Alright, I'll try to find that thread somewhere later. But do you agree with getting the Sapphire or Ink for Hyatt points? What do you think I should do about the Hyatt card? Get it for the free nights and cancel (or leverage) or keep the card and pay or negotiate the annual fee?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
Alright, I'll try to find that thread somewhere later. But do you agree with getting the Sapphire or Ink for Hyatt points? What do you think I should do about the Hyatt card? Get it for the free nights and cancel (or leverage) or keep the card and pay or negotiate the annual fee?
Please post in the correct thread.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23990
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Flying Fish on January 13, 2013, 11:03:01 PM
Also looking into Kaui hotel options. Hyatt is $700+. Any other recommendations? Is the Sheraton nearby worthwhile at all ($400)?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2013, 11:04:03 PM
Also looking into Kaui hotel options. Hyatt is $700+. Any other recommendations? Is the Sheraton nearby worthwhile at all ($400)?
Get points or use priceline.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Flying Fish on January 13, 2013, 11:13:38 PM
In other words do what it takes to stay in Hyatt
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2013, 11:38:56 PM
No
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Flying Fish on January 14, 2013, 12:21:56 AM
Sorry Dan I'm confused, so are there other hotels that you recommend? Also I see now the Hyatt is $800 only midweek (Feb. 10th) for some reason (Lincoln/Valentines?) but $450 for the previous weekend. People are reporting sub-$200 wins on priceline in Jan., but seems like a stretch for that week.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Chai on January 14, 2013, 12:51:03 AM
Im also confused. I have about 100,000 spg and prob 120000 ur. Ive never used points to book a hotel. I wanted a really nice hotel in both places. How can i get the ghk for the dates i mentioned? And if i cant get that what else do you recommend?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Chai on January 14, 2013, 12:54:08 AM
Also. While looking for alternative hotels. What area do i want to stay in Maui? And what area in kauai? What are two or three other gorgeous hotel options if i cant get ghk? Thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on January 14, 2013, 10:30:33 AM
2)The card has a 79 fee the first year but entitles you to diamond platinum (worth it IMO)

FTFY
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jmansour on January 15, 2013, 07:14:37 AM
Wow im happy i booked when i did i got 6 days for 22k pts a night last week of jan
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Londoner Rebbe on January 23, 2013, 07:30:13 PM
Anyone going to be in the Hyatt Kauai mid Feb?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2013, 12:30:39 PM
So I've decided that It's about time I check our Hawaii but I need some help.

One big factor of this trip is a mileage run. I need another 7k by end of march to keep status with AA for another year, so I've decided that LAX - HI - LAX will get me real close and not too expensive and then a one way to jfk will top it off.
Here's the question: the only days I can go are from 2/20 toward evening until 2/25 to land back in La on 26th morning.
Those days are around purim and the 21st is a fast day and 24th is purim

Based on that, how should I route out the trip which islands should I go to first, for shabbos, and purim? (preferably chabad for purim)
Should I only go to one or 2?
where is ideal to spend a fast day?

OR is this a waste of time and I should find somewhere else cheap to fly to hit the miles
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2013, 12:37:04 PM
It seems to me from what I read that Maui, the big Island and little bit of HNL would interest me but I'm not sure how to work it out. Or which I should skip
Title: Re: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2013, 09:05:45 PM
So I've decided that It's about time I check our Hawaii but I need some help.

One big factor of this trip is a mileage run. I need another 7k by end of march to keep status with AA for another year, so I've decided that LAX - HI - LAX will get me real close and not too expensive and then a one way to jfk will top it off.
Here's the question: the only days I can go are from 2/20 toward evening until 2/25 to land back in La on 26th morning.
Those days are around purim and the 21st is a fast day and 24th is purim

Based on that, how should I route out the trip which islands should I go to first, for shabbos, and purim? (preferably chabad for purim)
Should I only go to one or 2?
where is ideal to spend a fast day?

OR is this a waste of time and I should find somewhere else cheap to fly to hit the miles
Bump?
Am I asking too many q?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on January 27, 2013, 09:08:15 PM
Bump?
Am I asking too many q?
if you want somewhere with minyan and megillah, then its honolulu for shabbos
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2013, 10:05:20 PM
if you want somewhere with minyan and megillah, then its honolulu for shabbos
well not specifically for shabbos but for purim megilla i do so i guess that means for shabbos i should stay there. that leaves me with wed. night -friday afternoon for an island and monday morning  weither somewhere else or stay on Oahu (and maybe catch a stopover on way back to lax)

is that pushing too much?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on January 27, 2013, 10:43:35 PM
well not specifically for shabbos but for purim megilla i do so i guess that means for shabbos i should stay there. that leaves me with wed. night -friday afternoon for an island and monday morning  weither somewhere else or stay on Oahu (and maybe catch a stopover on way back to lax)

is that pushing too much?
personally I think that's pushing it, especially if you're gonna wanna do activities on the other islands, just do them in Oahu.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 27, 2013, 10:51:55 PM
Not trying to be the religous police but just wanted to point out that Parshas Zachar is the Shabbos before Purim. Again just mentioning it if that will help factor where to stay etc.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2013, 10:57:20 PM
personally I think that's pushing it, especially if you're gonna wanna do activities on the other islands, just do them in Oahu.
so ur saying to go straight to Oahu and stay thru monday and do activities there? and if i can get a stopover for a few hours on way out do that  but not more?
anyone disagree?

Not trying to be the religous police but just wanted to point out that Parshas Zachar is the Shabbos before Purim. Again just mentioning it if that will help factor where to stay etc.
thank you, i appreciate your concern :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 27, 2013, 11:11:16 PM
so ur saying to go straight to Oahu and stay thru monday and do activities there? and if i can get a stopover for a few hours on way out do that  but not more?
anyone disagree?
Do you mean to spend the whole time in Oahu? Why go to HI for that?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 27, 2013, 11:14:39 PM
Do you mean to spend the whole time in Oahu? Why go to HI for that?
so maybe u can u help me figure this out because im having a hard time instead of telling me its shabbos zachor and i shouldnt go there  :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on January 27, 2013, 11:22:08 PM
I don't think it's worth hopping around the islands with so little time, so if you want minyan/Megillah etc Honolulu it is
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 27, 2013, 11:35:53 PM
so maybe u can u help me figure this out because im having a hard time instead of telling me its shabbos zachor and i shouldnt go there  :P
Hey I never said u shouldn't go anywhere was just saying that its not worth schlepping to HI if all your doing is Oahu.  ;D

Maybe after Purim take a 2 day stop in Maui if u can pull it off. Fly Sunday night and spend the day Monday there. Tough call.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 27, 2013, 11:55:37 PM
2 days? Save Maui and Kauai for another time and explore the Hilo side of the Big Island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on January 28, 2013, 12:30:25 AM
2 days? Save Maui and Kauai for another time and explore the Hilo side of the Big Island.
makes more sense to me this way, thanx.
if i pull thru with this trip ill post the details. but its still in planning stages (debating if purim is a good place to party in HI :) )

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MEIR613 on January 28, 2013, 12:33:24 AM
makes more sense to me this way, thanx.
if i pull thru with this trip ill post the details. but its still in planning stages (debating if purim is a good place to party in HI :) )
Im sure you can get someone to psak for you to hold 2 days ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Shatnez on February 05, 2013, 10:34:08 PM
I have presidents week off. Feb 17-24 Basically off until Purim on Sunday. does it pay to go to hawaii from sunday and return on Thursday Taanis Esther or better to wait to go a different time when I'll have more days available? If it's not worth it any recommendations where to go to for 3-4 days?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 05, 2013, 11:06:22 PM
does it pay to go to hawaii from sunday and return on Thursday Taanis Esther
No problem doing 1 island in that time period.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Shatnez on February 05, 2013, 11:14:31 PM
so leaving NY on sunday and leaving to come back thursday will give me enough time?  Which Island would be best for only 3 full days
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 11, 2013, 07:28:51 PM
so im about to buy tickets, but before i do that im trying to figure out the budget.
where can i find cheap hotels to pay cash on Oahu and on The Big Island? - priceline? whats the cheapest u think i can find.

and regarding points, whats the best points to use im looking for the cheapest way out, doesnt need to be fancy. - i have 32k SPG and i have lots of Chase and amex.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 11, 2013, 08:12:48 PM
so im about to buy tickets, but before i do that im trying to figure out the budget.
where can i find cheap hotels to pay cash on Oahu and on The Big Island? - priceline? whats the cheapest u think i can find.

and regarding points, whats the best points to use im looking for the cheapest way out, doesnt need to be fancy. - i have 32k SPG and i have lots of Chase and amex.
any normal hostels?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: njmacman on February 12, 2013, 02:43:42 PM
I stayed at JW Marriot in Oahu for Marriott points a few years ago, amazing. On the west of Oahu, away from Waikiki. Also MArriott in Big Island, although the Hilton looked nicer. But free is free (ie. points).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 02:48:04 PM
I stayed at JW Marriot in Oahu for Marriott points a few years ago, amazing. On the west of Oahu, away from Waikiki. Also MArriott in Big Island, although the Hilton looked nicer. But free is free (ie. points).
in oahu i see without looking at availability that saver is 30k a night (http://www.marriott.com/hotels/rewards-points/hnljw-jw-marriott-ihilani-ko-olina-resort-and-spa/). is that what u mean by a few?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: njmacman on February 12, 2013, 02:49:31 PM
More like 7 years ago. It was 15k per night then. Inflation!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 03:20:59 PM
i have 2 options here for flights/islands:

1) wed. 2/20 arrive at noon to HNL and stay there until tue. 2/26 4pm (have in mind thursday is fast and sunday is purim)

2) wed. 2/20 arrive at noon to HNL and stay until mon. 2/25 4:25pm - fly to KOA until next day 2/26 10:20pm to fly back to LAX.

diff in price is $81 (more in #2)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2013, 09:52:43 PM
Why KOA and not ITO?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 10:12:06 PM
Why KOA and not ITO?
true. i didnt know the diff but someone mentioned to me thank gd :)

so i just booked tickets! its still within 24 hours so i can make changes if need be:

tue 2/19 LAX-HNL arrive at noon
mon 2/25 HNL-ITO arrive at 2:45p
tue 2/26 KOA-LAX direct - departs at 10:20p

i chose to leave out of KOA for a 3 reasons - 1 bec it came out a bit cheaper, 2 bec its direct - 3 bec i hear the drive across is extremely nice - and well drive 2 hours before it gets dark and find something to do in kona for the remainder few hours.

if you feel it would be smarter to do it a diff way please share what you think. i dont want to spend much more. flights were paid in cash.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2013, 10:26:50 PM
Why not fly Purim afternoon to ITO?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 10:32:17 PM
Why not fly Purim afternoon to ITO?
i was thinking of having a fun - drinking - time at chabad of HNL (especially that i know a few bochurim helping out there) and then leaving the next day to ITO.
are you suggesting that i have the seudas purim at chabad on the big island? (ITO/KOA)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2013, 10:59:39 PM
i was thinking of having a fun - drinking - time at chabad of HNL (especially that i know a few bochurim helping out there) and then leaving the next day to ITO.
are you suggesting that i have the seudas purim at chabad on the big island? (ITO/KOA)
Yes.
Then you'll have time for Valcano stuff and maybe South Point/Green Sand Beach/Road to Ocean on Mon and Waipio/Mauna Kea on Tues.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 11:02:07 PM
Yes.
Then you'll have time for Valcano stuff and maybe South Point/Green Sand Beach/Road to Ocean on Mon and Waipio/Mauna Kea on Tues.
wheres the chabad in Hilo? it seems only in kona. im landing in hilo - though i can change that and it my be cheaper or drive it there and back and back again for tue night flight which doesnt make sense to
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2013, 11:07:21 PM
So fly into KOA.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 11:16:08 PM
So fly into KOA.
ill discuss it with the guy im flying with and see if it makes sense here.

in any case any ideas for cheap accommodations - i found on priceline $69 for one night for kona - but ohau is sky high! 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2013, 11:28:04 PM
I wouldn't stay in Kona.
Look in Hilo or Volcano on VRBO
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 11:32:25 PM
I wouldn't stay in Kona.
Look in Hilo or Volcano on VRBO
well if i will be flying into Kona on purim then id stay there for the party and drink and id stay there the night and then drive around next day and stay in hilo or volcano and then drive back tues. for flight
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 12, 2013, 11:33:10 PM
Shliach has no place for ya?
There's also a SPG in Kona with C+P.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 12, 2013, 11:35:38 PM
Shliach has no place for ya?
There's also a SPG in Kona with C+P.
didnt ask , not sure i want to . for diff reasons. but well see.
im working on that for oahu otherwise ill be going to hostels :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: bhphotoman on February 18, 2013, 07:47:12 PM
need a answer rather quickly before wife gets home

is it worth going thursday to sunday basically just for shabbos if yes where to

thanks so much
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: robi on February 18, 2013, 08:16:11 PM
need a answer rather quickly before wife gets home

is it worth going thursday to sunday basically just for shabbos if yes where to

thanks so much
i would say no
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on February 19, 2013, 11:40:00 AM
I am not sure where to post this, so if this is the wrong location either move it or let me know where to post this.

My trip report from Hawaii
 
We flew direct from EWR to HNL on a Thursday afternoon. We had a 2 hour stopover before continuing on to OGG. Even though the tickets were bought separately, I had United tag our bags for transfer. This way we didn’t need to be busy getting our luggage and rechecking it in. It worked flawlessly.  We stayed in Maui until Thursday afternoon, then flew back to Honolulu until after Shabbat. Saturday night we flew back to Newark VIA Denver.
United does not offer any Kosher meals on this 11 hour flight even in 1st class as it’s a domestic flight.
 
MAUI:
I rented a Mustang convertible; I highly recommend a convertible (they rent Jeep Wrangler convertibles as well if you want an SUV).
 
Maui Revealed – This book is an amazing tour book. There is tons of info. It is definitely worth the read / purchase. There were several sites which we weren’t able to locate as it wasn’t as easily found or wasn’t located near where I interpreted to what was written. If you have an iPhone they do have the book in an app format and they say that they see where you are located and tell you what attractions are near you. I did not try this out.
 
Westin Ka’anapali – The hotel was a nice hotel. The rooms were your average hotel room. The fridge in the room was small, and they charge you for storage in the freezer. They supply you with bottled water for free. The pool area was magnificent and beautiful. There are several pools that are attached with waterfalls, water slides and tunnels, and there’s an almost private area under rocks hidden from the main pools. There is also an “adult” pool and hot tub on a higher level but in the same pool area. The beach is right in front of the hotel / pool area so you could just walk right off the property and you’re on the beach. There is also a very nice Koi pond with Flamingo’s in it. They offer a free photography session on the hotel property, and they give you 1 free print. If you would like to purchase the CD with all of the pictures it costs $100. We didn’t find the pictures / poses that were taken to be very good, but there are several different photographers there so you may have better luck. I walked along the beach almost to the Black Rock and this hotel definitely had the nicest property / pool in the area. (I didn’t go in the other direction)
 
Road to Hana – This was an amazing drive. We didn’t find everything we were looking for, but it was a lot of fun. We left Ka’anapali at about 7 am and got back about 12 hours later. We went around the entire way instead of turning around. There is a dirt road for several miles and we made it perfectly fine in the Mustang.
One site that stood out is Nahiku Rd. It’s a long road (about 2.5 miles until the end.) It looks almost like a steep driveway when you turn onto the road, but it’s actually a real road the entire way down! It was a real nice drive with nice scenery along the way. At the end of the road you get to the Kipakaone & Hoinolulu Nui Bays. It’s really nice there. The water was a beautiful blue, and the waves crashing on the rocks with a panoramic view made it a beautiful area.
 
Blow Hole & Olivine Pools – It was a nice drive, but nothing as dramatic as the road to Hana. It was very cool watching the blow hole. We couldn’t figure out how to get down there, so we couldn’t get up close and personal with it. (I saw the next day that someone broke their foot down there and the Fire Dept needed to carry her back up). The blow hole was blowing real strong when we were there and we got some nice video of it. The Olivine Pools looked a bit too dangerous when we got there, and the tide was pretty rough.
 
Haleakala – We left Kaanapali at about 3 am to get there early. If you have issues with motion sickness, I highly recommend you take Dramamine beforehand as the drive up is very curvy. It was a nice drive up even though it was pitch black. It was cool seeing headlights every now and then up the mountain. When we got to the “top,” the higher level was already full so the gate was closed. (Unless I didn’t realize until afterwards that I was able to go up higher, and so that is what I am convincing myself.) There were tons of people and buses there for Sunrise. We had a beautiful Sunrise. Afterwards, we went to the higher location and got some nice pictures there. In my opinion, it would have been much nicer to watch Sunrise there.
 
Kula Botanical Gardens – We went there after Sunrise. It was pretty close to the entrance to Haleakala. If I remember correctly, there was a $10 entrance fee. I’m not very much into Botanical gardens (but what don’t we do for the wife). It ended up being pretty cool as they had a lot of different and cool flowers.
 
Warren & Annabelle’s Magic Show – This show is in Lahaina and cost approx $120 for the 2 of us. They have 5 rotating magicians who perform there. When we went, the performers were John Shryock & Dana Daniels. We had a great time. It is a “dinner & show,” but you could tell them that you aren’t eating and they will tell you to come in later than everyone else. When you walk in, they put you into a room and you need to figure out how to get out. They give you hints to help you out. It was pretty cool. The theater is small and up close. When they are ready to go into the theater, try to be one of the first people in so you get a good seat up front. Although, even if you are in the back, you are not very far away. We had a very good time and enjoyed the 2 magicians that performed.
 
Lahaina – We went for a walk along the main drag. There are a lot of stores here. We found parking at the end of the street across from the School in a parking lot. There was a store right there in the beginning, I don’t remember the name, that had a nice variety of souvenirs. And we found them to be the cheapest store for the most part.
 
Maui Ocean Center – (Wailuku) – We went here one day as it was cloudy and not very nice weather outside. I thought that the entrance fee was a bit high, but once we went in we had a good time. They had a lot more than we thought they would. At the end of the aquarium they have a massive tank with Sharks, Stingrays and really huge fish. There is a spot where the tank goes over and underneath you, and you could see the fish swim above and beneath you. They have a gift shop with some really nice and expensive glass objects. For example, they had a bag with water and a fish inside, (it looked like something that you’d win at a carnival), that was entirely made of glass. It was really nice but a bit above my budget. (I think it was about $3500).
 
Shabbat Food – We got food for Shabbat from the Chabad on the island. They made food for us, which we then picked up a little before Shabbat from their house. The food was really good and they gave more than enough for the 2 of us.
 
Molokini  - I didn’t get to this snorkeling island, as I decided while on vacation I can’t get up earlier everyday then I normally do!! So we took it easy for the day instead and relaxed by the pool and got massages at the spa.

Oahu:
 
Honolulu – We stayed at the Ala Moana Hotel. The hotel was alright, nothing special. The only benefit of staying there is that the Chabad house is attached to the hotel, so you don’t need to walk far in order to get to the meals and davening. However, there is no eruv. In order to get to and from your room on Shabbos, you go to the Security Office and they bring you up to your room. Going down though, the Chabad Rabbi has their maintenance guy come pick you up. The Rabbi stays with his wife every Shabbos in the hotel.
 
Pearl Harbor – This is the only thing we did in Honolulu except for a long walk around the area. We had the hotel book us with a Shuttle. We were there for about 5 hours and did not get through the entire park. You need to get there early in order to be able to go out to the Arizona Memorial. They show you a video about the attack for about 45 min, and then you go on a boat out to the memorial. There are several Museums on premises as well, including the USS Bowfin (submarine). Off site there is an Airplane Museum and another ship that served in WWII. We did not get to the off-site exhibits as we were running out of time (Friday afternoon). There is a fee to go to the off-site exhibits. They do not allow any bags in the park, so you need to drop it off at a check in area for a small fee (I think it was $3).
 
I would like to thank all the members of DDF for all the help you gave me on planning and executing this trip. I would not have had half the fun I did without you!!!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Devorah on February 19, 2013, 01:02:06 PM
I am not sure where to post this, so if this is the wrong location either move it or let me know where to post this.

My trip report from Hawaii
 
We flew direct from EWR to HNL on a Thursday afternoon. We had a 2 hour stopover before continuing on to OGG. Even though the tickets were bought separately, I had United tag our bags for transfer. This way we didn’t need to be busy getting our luggage and rechecking it in. It worked flawlessly.  We stayed in Maui until Thursday afternoon, then flew back to Honolulu until after Shabbat. Saturday night we flew back to Newark VIA Denver.
United does not offer any Kosher meals on this 11 hour flight even in 1st class as it’s a domestic flight.
 
MAUI:
I rented a Mustang convertible; I highly recommend a convertible (they rent Jeep Wrangler convertibles as well if you want an SUV).
 
Maui Revealed – This book is an amazing tour book. There is tons of info. It is definitely worth the read / purchase. There were several sites which we weren’t able to locate as it wasn’t as easily found or wasn’t located near where I interpreted to what was written. If you have an iPhone they do have the book in an app format and they say that they see where you are located and tell you what attractions are near you. I did not try this out.
 
Westin Ka’anapali – The hotel was a nice hotel. The rooms were your average hotel room. The fridge in the room was small, and they charge you for storage in the freezer. They supply you with bottled water for free. The pool area was magnificent and beautiful. There are several pools that are attached with waterfalls, water slides and tunnels, and there’s an almost private area under rocks hidden from the main pools. There is also an “adult” pool and hot tub on a higher level but in the same pool area. The beach is right in front of the hotel / pool area so you could just walk right off the property and you’re on the beach. There is also a very nice Koi pond with Flamingo’s in it. They offer a free photography session on the hotel property, and they give you 1 free print. If you would like to purchase the CD with all of the pictures it costs $100. We didn’t find the pictures / poses that were taken to be very good, but there are several different photographers there so you may have better luck. I walked along the beach almost to the Black Rock and this hotel definitely had the nicest property / pool in the area. (I didn’t go in the other direction)
 
Road to Hana – This was an amazing drive. We didn’t find everything we were looking for, but it was a lot of fun. We left Ka’anapali at about 7 am and got back about 12 hours later. We went around the entire way instead of turning around. There is a dirt road for several miles and we made it perfectly fine in the Mustang.
One site that stood out is Nahiku Rd. It’s a long road (about 2.5 miles until the end.) It looks almost like a steep driveway when you turn onto the road, but it’s actually a real road the entire way down! It was a real nice drive with nice scenery along the way. At the end of the road you get to the Kipakaone & Hoinolulu Nui Bays. It’s really nice there. The water was a beautiful blue, and the waves crashing on the rocks with a panoramic view made it a beautiful area.
 
Blow Hole & Olivine Pools – It was a nice drive, but nothing as dramatic as the road to Hana. It was very cool watching the blow hole. We couldn’t figure out how to get down there, so we couldn’t get up close and personal with it. (I saw the next day that someone broke their foot down there and the Fire Dept needed to carry her back up). The blow hole was blowing real strong when we were there and we got some nice video of it. The Olivine Pools looked a bit too dangerous when we got there, and the tide was pretty rough.
 
Haleakala – We left Kaanapali at about 3 am to get there early. If you have issues with motion sickness, I highly recommend you take Dramamine beforehand as the drive up is very curvy. It was a nice drive up even though it was pitch black. It was cool seeing headlights every now and then up the mountain. When we got to the “top,” the higher level was already full so the gate was closed. (Unless I didn’t realize until afterwards that I was able to go up higher, and so that is what I am convincing myself.) There were tons of people and buses there for Sunrise. We had a beautiful Sunrise. Afterwards, we went to the higher location and got some nice pictures there. In my opinion, it would have been much nicer to watch Sunrise there.
 
Kula Botanical Gardens – We went there after Sunrise. It was pretty close to the entrance to Haleakala. If I remember correctly, there was a $10 entrance fee. I’m not very much into Botanical gardens (but what don’t we do for the wife). It ended up being pretty cool as they had a lot of different and cool flowers.
 
Warren & Annabelle’s Magic Show – This show is in Lahaina and cost approx $120 for the 2 of us. They have 5 rotating magicians who perform there. When we went, the performers were John Shryock & Dana Daniels. We had a great time. It is a “dinner & show,” but you could tell them that you aren’t eating and they will tell you to come in later than everyone else. When you walk in, they put you into a room and you need to figure out how to get out. They give you hints to help you out. It was pretty cool. The theater is small and up close. When they are ready to go into the theater, try to be one of the first people in so you get a good seat up front. Although, even if you are in the back, you are not very far away. We had a very good time and enjoyed the 2 magicians that performed.
 
Lahaina – We went for a walk along the main drag. There are a lot of stores here. We found parking at the end of the street across from the School in a parking lot. There was a store right there in the beginning, I don’t remember the name, that had a nice variety of souvenirs. And we found them to be the cheapest store for the most part.
 
Maui Ocean Center – (Wailuku) – We went here one day as it was cloudy and not very nice weather outside. I thought that the entrance fee was a bit high, but once we went in we had a good time. They had a lot more than we thought they would. At the end of the aquarium they have a massive tank with Sharks, Stingrays and really huge fish. There is a spot where the tank goes over and underneath you, and you could see the fish swim above and beneath you. They have a gift shop with some really nice and expensive glass objects. For example, they had a bag with water and a fish inside, (it looked like something that you’d win at a carnival), that was entirely made of glass. It was really nice but a bit above my budget. (I think it was about $3500).
 
Shabbat Food – We got food for Shabbat from the Chabad on the island. They made food for us, which we then picked up a little before Shabbat from their house. The food was really good and they gave more than enough for the 2 of us.
 
Molokini  - I didn’t get to this snorkeling island, as I decided while on vacation I can’t get up earlier everyday then I normally do!! So we took it easy for the day instead and relaxed by the pool and got massages at the spa.

Oahu:
 
Honolulu – We stayed at the Ala Moana Hotel. The hotel was alright, nothing special. The only benefit of staying there is that the Chabad house is attached to the hotel, so you don’t need to walk far in order to get to the meals and davening. However, there is no eruv. In order to get to and from your room on Shabbos, you go to the Security Office and they bring you up to your room. Going down though, the Chabad Rabbi has their maintenance guy come pick you up. The Rabbi stays with his wife every Shabbos in the hotel.
 
Pearl Harbor – This is the only thing we did in Honolulu except for a long walk around the area. We had the hotel book us with a Shuttle. We were there for about 5 hours and did not get through the entire park. You need to get there early in order to be able to go out to the Arizona Memorial. They show you a video about the attack for about 45 min, and then you go on a boat out to the memorial. There are several Museums on premises as well, including the USS Bowfin (submarine). Off site there is an Airplane Museum and another ship that served in WWII. We did not get to the off-site exhibits as we were running out of time (Friday afternoon). There is a fee to go to the off-site exhibits. They do not allow any bags in the park, so you need to drop it off at a check in area for a small fee (I think it was $3).
 
I would like to thank all the members of DDF for all the help you gave me on planning and executing this trip. I would not have had half the fun I did without you!!!

Nice TR!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 21, 2013, 12:37:52 PM
United does not offer any Kosher meals on this 11 hour flight even in 1st class as it’s a domestic flight.
Huh? Methinks you were misinformed.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on February 21, 2013, 12:40:32 PM
@ lfas25  nice TR was worth the wait!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on February 21, 2013, 01:30:06 PM
Huh? Methinks you were misinformed.

I called after I booked the flight and I was told there is no Kosher option but she put me in for the request anyway.
When we were flying the flight attendant told me that they don't offer Kosher food and he didn't have anything to offer besides the snacks that were kosher if I want.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on February 21, 2013, 01:30:42 PM
Nice TR!

@ lfas25  nice TR was worth the wait!

Thx  :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 21, 2013, 01:44:59 PM
I called after I booked the flight and I was told there is no Kosher option but she put me in for the request anyway.
When we were flying the flight attendant told me that they don't offer Kosher food and he didn't have anything to offer besides the snacks that were kosher if I want.
Write to them.  I got $200/ticket for not having a kosher meal IAH-HNL.  We did get it HNL-EWR, so no $400 for that :D
UA.com clearly says you get kosher flying First to HI.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on February 21, 2013, 01:52:16 PM
Write to them.  I got $200/ticket for not having a kosher meal IAH-HNL.  We did get it HNL-EWR, so no $400 for that :D
UA.com clearly says you get kosher flying First to HI.

I complained to them and they gave us 5k bonus miles each
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on February 21, 2013, 01:52:32 PM
Write to them.  I got $200/ticket for not having a kosher meal IAH-HNL.  We did get it HNL-EWR, so no $400 for that :D
UA.com clearly says you get kosher flying First to HI.
What email address do you write to for that?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 26, 2013, 07:13:33 PM
Does Chabad of Hawaii daven towards the west?
Anyone ever ask a Rov?

http://www.kosherjava.com/maps/zmanim.html
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: SavingsBigtime on February 26, 2013, 07:26:02 PM
Does Chabad of Hawaii daven towards the west?
Anyone ever ask a Rov?

http://www.kosherjava.com/maps/zmanim.html
ate u tring to say mabey in New York daven to the west and it will eventually get to Jerusalem 
Don't know what u were taught but u always daven east.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 26, 2013, 07:34:42 PM
ate u tring to say mabey in New York daven to the west and it will eventually get to Jerusalem 
Don't know what u were taught but u always daven east.
Background discussion:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/28722/comment-page-1#comment-235112
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/28722/comment-page-1#comment-235156
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: SavingsBigtime on February 26, 2013, 09:06:31 PM
Sorry about that i am on a iPhone was writing from there and read ur tr from there , just was not following up on the comments from there since every time u hit the comments u first have to go through the 16 pages of the tr, sorry Dan as much as I like reading the tr , to read the comments I'm not interested to read the first 16 pages again that's why I dint see we're u coming from. ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on March 01, 2013, 04:32:13 PM
I'm trying to fly to Hawaii for a week (Sunday-Sunday) in May and would like to use my AMEX MR points. I'm trying to find saver availability in business class flying non-stop from Newark on United. I would like to book through Singapore Airlines so I can use my MR points (120k), but when I called they told me there was no availability at all for any Sunday - Sunday in May. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I can go about finding availability or booking this itinerary with MR points?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 01, 2013, 04:38:22 PM
I'm trying to fly to Hawaii for a week (Sunday-Sunday) in May and would like to use my AMEX MR points. I'm trying to find saver availability in business class flying non-stop from Newark on United. I would like to book through Singapore Airlines so I can use my MR points (120k), but when I called they told me there was no availability at all for any Sunday - Sunday in May. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I can go about finding availability or booking this itinerary with MR points?


There is availability May 6- May 13  -It's coach on the way there and Business on the way back but you can try booking with a plan B ticket.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 01, 2013, 04:40:24 PM
Can't do Plan B with Singapore miles.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 01, 2013, 04:47:55 PM
Can't do Plan B with Singapore miles.

Right. My bad.

  If you want that specific flight you either have to wait or change your dates.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DP7 on March 02, 2013, 07:09:54 PM
I'm trying to fly to Hawaii for a week (Sunday-Sunday) in May and would like to use my AMEX MR points. I'm trying to find saver availability in business class flying non-stop from Newark on United. I would like to book through Singapore Airlines so I can use my MR points (120k), but when I called they told me there was no availability at all for any Sunday - Sunday in May. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I can go about finding availability or booking this itinerary with MR points?

Just listen to your friend DP7, he's a cool dude.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on March 03, 2013, 12:40:34 PM
I'm trying to fly to Hawaii for a week (Sunday-Sunday) in May and would like to use my AMEX MR points. I'm trying to find saver availability in business class flying non-stop from Newark on United. I would like to book through Singapore Airlines so I can use my MR points (120k), but when I called they told me there was no availability at all for any Sunday - Sunday in May. Does anyone have any suggestions of how I can go about finding availability or booking this itinerary with MR points?

Why not transfer them to hawaiian air and fly direct from jfk?  You might have to use a couple of more miles but their availability is usually wide open
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MEIR613 on March 03, 2013, 01:10:28 PM
Why not transfer them to hawaiian air and fly direct from jfk?  You might have to use a couple of more miles but their availability is usually wide open
If he wants lie flat biz. UA is the way to go.

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 03, 2013, 01:18:17 PM
EWR-HNL isn't lie-flat though it's better than HA.
IAH-HNL may be lie-flat depending on the aircraft.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on March 03, 2013, 01:33:44 PM
Which is so dumb, IMHO.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 03, 2013, 01:41:55 PM
Which is so dumb, IMHO.
Not at all. There's no premium market demand for HI.  It's known as a very inhospitable place for business in general.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on March 03, 2013, 01:49:59 PM
Perhaps it doesn't make business sense (that's above my pay grade and if so, the lack of lie-flat make sense), but to imply only business people have a desire/need for lie-flat to HNL doesn't seem right to me.

Heck, I'd love to lie-flat on that route, and it wouldn't be for business :)

Also, once they have the planes to fly it, why not offer it on EWR-HNL which is 25% longer flight than IAH-HNL? Doesn't seem to me like it'd cost them anymore...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 03, 2013, 02:03:43 PM
Only business people will pay enough to make a true BF cabin financially feasible.  It's all about the yields ad they generally aren't there for HI. Mileage awards fill seats but don't pay the bills.

As for why IAH has lie-flats on occasion while EWR has "partial lie-flats" and ORD has domestic F, I would venture to guess that the bean-counters have some evidence to support those decisions.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on March 05, 2013, 03:12:27 PM
Android apps now out:
http://www.hawaiirevealed.com/hawaii-revealed-apps
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on March 05, 2013, 03:25:58 PM
Android apps now out:
http://www.hawaiirevealed.com/hawaii-revealed-apps

Sure took a while. Can't wait to check it out.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on March 05, 2013, 03:38:27 PM
Android apps now out:
http://www.hawaiirevealed.com/hawaii-revealed-apps

I wish these were free for people who bought the books :(.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on March 05, 2013, 06:47:04 PM
Android apps now out:
http://www.hawaiirevealed.com/hawaii-revealed-apps
now theyre out! a week after i leave when it couldve helped me kinda - (like for mikva lava hot springs which i never found :) )
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: SGF on March 05, 2013, 11:57:24 PM
now theyre out! a week after i leave when it couldve helped me kinda - (like for mikva lava hot springs which i never found :) )
Lol, its not exactly a mikva
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Amusch on April 18, 2013, 12:11:15 AM
I'm not such a frequent flyer and this is my first experience with United miles (just signed up for the card). I want to go to Hawaii this summer, and I just checked United for the first time, and there's no 40/80 deals on the dates I need. Does that change often, or am I messed over?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on April 18, 2013, 12:56:18 PM
Where is the best and cheapest place to get the Hawaii Revealed books? They don't seem to have them in the library.
I'm specifically looking for Maui and Oahu.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on April 18, 2013, 12:56:40 PM
Where is the best and cheapest place to get the Hawaii Revealed books? They don't seem to have them in the library.
I'm specifically looking for Maui and Oahu.

Ebay/Amazon
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: YankyDoodle on April 18, 2013, 01:17:54 PM
Android apps now out:
http://www.hawaiirevealed.com/hawaii-revealed-apps

App looks pretty awesome.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on April 18, 2013, 02:13:27 PM
They don't seem to have them in the library.

The ones in the library will probably not be the latest versions. 15 bucks is a small price to pay for the most awesome guidebooks you'll ever read.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 18, 2013, 02:16:15 PM
The ones in the library will probably not be the latest versions. 15 bucks is a small price to pay for the most awesome guidebooks you'll ever read.
$13.17 from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0981461085/?tag=cl03f-20

And they are awesome.  Why can't all guidebooks be written like that!?!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: lfas25 on April 18, 2013, 02:47:07 PM
$13.17 from Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/dp/0981461085/?tag=cl03f-20

And they are awesome.  Why can't all guidebooks be written like that!?!

+100
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on April 18, 2013, 03:36:23 PM
 We actually carried them with us wherever we went. I  had the app too,  but the actual book has this 'geshmak' to  it.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Amusch on April 23, 2013, 05:10:13 PM
Anyone know/have experience getting a United flight to Hawaii for 40K round trip?
I don't see any dates near when I'm going with the Saver point deals; all I see is 40K EACH WAY. Thoughts?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 23, 2013, 05:11:24 PM
Anyone know/have experience getting a United flight to Hawaii for 40K round trip?
I don't see any dates near when I'm going with the Saver point deals; all I see is 40K EACH WAY. Thoughts?

Thanks!
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=7986
Title: Re: Honeymoon trip
Post by: askmoses on May 20, 2013, 12:14:25 PM
How long are you going for?
5-10 days. Depending on where I go....
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon trip
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2013, 12:24:41 PM
5-10 days. Depending on where I go....
I recommend:
4-6 days for OGG
5-7 days for LIH
1-8 days for ITO/KOA
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon trip
Post by: askmoses on May 20, 2013, 12:33:54 PM
I recommend:
4-6 days for OGG
5-7 days for LIH
1-8 days for ITO/KOA
I have sibling who went to OGG and Parents who went to LIH. Is the interisland travel cheap? Kosher food easier where? Thanks for all the good tips!!
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon trip
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2013, 12:36:42 PM
You can check interisland award availability on United.com, though then you'll pay for bags.

I have a Hawaiian corp account that gets 2 free bags, you can check fares on hawaiian.com.

LIH/ITO/KOA have Costco, Walmart, and Safeway, etc.  OGG also has a Whole Foods and a great store called Mana Foods.  Same foods and brands as back home though prices are higher in Safeway then mainland grocery stores.

HNL and KOA have kosher restaurants.  Hyatt in LIH and OGG stock kosher food which you order and eat in your room or at any of their restaurants if you give them a few hours notice.
Title: Re: Re: Honeymoon trip
Post by: E-MAN on May 20, 2013, 03:12:59 PM
You can check interisland award availability on United.com, though then you'll pay for bags.

I have a Hawaiian corp account that gets 2 free bags, you can check fares on hawaiian.com.

LIH/ITO/KOA have Costco, Walmart, and Safeway, etc.  OGG also has a Whole Foods and a great store called Mana Foods.  Same foods and brands as back home though prices are higher in Safeway then mainland grocery stores.

HNL and KOA have kosher restaurants.  Hyatt in LIH and OGG stock kosher food which you order and eat in your room or at any of their restaurants if you give them a few hours notice.

If I already booked on Hawaiian using points, is there anyway to get free bags?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on May 20, 2013, 03:13:57 PM
No
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: glasses dude on May 22, 2013, 01:27:23 AM
I'm thinking bout goin for a week during the summer, with wife and 2 and a half monthold kid.wanna relax and enjoy the scenery and water which island is my best bet
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on May 22, 2013, 06:32:42 AM
I'm thinking bout goin for a week during the summer, with wife and 2 and a half monthold kid.wanna relax and enjoy the scenery and water which island is my best bet
Truth is if you just wanna relax and enjoy the water there are carribean islands that you can get to in 4 hours instead of 14 hours that will be much easier to travel to with a 2 year old.

I didn't care for Aruba but there are better ones out there.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on May 22, 2013, 07:56:48 AM
Truth is if you just wanna relax and enjoy the water there are carribean islands that you can get to in 4 hours instead of 14 hours that will be much easier to travel to with a 2 year old.

I didn't care for Aruba but there are better ones out there.

+1

We went to Hawaii with a 1 year old and it was a huge schlep. For just scenery and enjoying the water you could go to the US Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico, much closer and more convenient, and you don't need a passport or anything.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: YankyDoodle on May 22, 2013, 08:45:38 AM
+1

We went to Hawaii with a 1 year old and it was a huge schlep. For just scenery and enjoying the water you could go to the US Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico, much closer and more convenient, and just like Hawaii you don't need a passport or anything.
ftfy
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on May 22, 2013, 08:50:44 AM
ftfy

Well, yeah. My point is that compared to the rest of the Caribbean, you don't need a passport for PR and USVI.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: YankyDoodle on May 22, 2013, 08:55:14 AM
Well, yeah. My point is that compared to the rest of the Caribbean, you don't need a passport for PR and USVI.

I understood that, just thought some less traveled amongst us may not have.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: glasses dude on May 22, 2013, 09:16:17 AM
+1

We went to Hawaii with a 1 year old and it was a huge schlep. For just scenery and enjoying the water you could go to the US Virgin Islands or Puerto Rico, much closer and more convenient, and you don't need a passport or anything.
Thanx any specific ideas which islands to go to that are safe and ideal during the summer also is there anything with a hyatt
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on June 06, 2013, 09:23:09 AM
Thanx any specific ideas which islands to go to that are safe and ideal during the summer also is there anything with a hyatt
Read back a bit on this thread. Some great tips to all your questions!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: D-Mohel on June 14, 2013, 12:26:49 AM
Hey, I am surprising my wife with tickets to Hawaii and accommodations all set up already..
I am looking for a non-hotel, non resort, secluded house or cottage to rent for 4 nights.  It can be on any island.  I am looking for a place that is a beachfront property on a beach or cove or lagoon that is no shared by any other house.  They are really hard to find.  I have found a few options..some are either insanely expensive, or the other one or two were not available for our dates.  I am planning on going sept. 29-oct 3.  I am willing to pay up to $450 a night.
If anyone can please please please find me the perfect place I would forever be grateful. 
If you have any ideas, or leads please share...thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on June 14, 2013, 12:47:08 AM
Hey, I am surprising my wife with tickets to Hawaii and accommodations all set up already..
I am looking for a non-hotel, non resort, secluded house or cottage to rent for 4 nights.  It can be on any island.  I am looking for a place that is a beachfront property on a beach or cove or lagoon that is no shared by any other house.  They are really hard to find.  I have found a few options..some are either insanely expensive, or the other one or two were not available for our dates.  I am planning on going sept. 29-oct 3.  I am willing to pay up to $450 a night.
If anyone can please please please find me the perfect place I would forever be grateful. 
If you have any ideas, or leads please share...thanks!

If your point is privacy on the beach i think you're out of luck. There are many beaches where you'd have privacy, but they're all secluded, i. e. away from civilization, not in front of some condo.

You may want to check out this place though - not on the beach, but on a fairly private stretch of river.
http://www.bamboohale.com/
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: D-Mohel on June 14, 2013, 12:52:06 AM
I don't mind being secluded..we don't need civilization.  we are kinda going with that in mind.
What I am looking for is someone who lives on one of the islands, on a lonely, secluded part, where there house is beachfront (not necessarily leaking sand into the house, but within 100 yards I would say).  Doesn't have to be gorgeous house. 
I have found a few places like this, but I am looking for better options (cheaper, or more secluded, or nicer). 

I should mention, the reason I am bothering going to hawaii even though I am not planning on doing many activities is because I will be in Los Angeles anyways, so its "only" 5 hours"
(and my wife has had this childhood dream of going to hawaii that will buy a couple weeks worth of brownie points)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on June 14, 2013, 01:04:07 AM
Maybe post some links to the places you found, it'll give us a better idea of what you have in mind.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on June 14, 2013, 10:52:06 AM
I don't mind being secluded..we don't need civilization.  we are kinda going with that in mind.
What I am looking for is someone who lives on one of the islands, on a lonely, secluded part, where there house is beachfront (not necessarily leaking sand into the house, but within 100 yards I would say).  Doesn't have to be gorgeous house. 
I have found a few places like this, but I am looking for better options (cheaper, or more secluded, or nicer). 

I should mention, the reason I am bothering going to hawaii even though I am not planning on doing many activities is because I will be in Los Angeles anyways, so its "only" 5 hours"
(and my wife has had this childhood dream of going to hawaii that will buy a couple weeks worth of brownie points)

http://www.hawaiianbeachrentals.com/Hawaii/Kauai/Princeville/HaleEmmalani.htm
http://www.hawaiianbeachrentals.com/Hawaii/Kauai/Poipu/KiahunaSunsetHouse.htm
http://www.hawaiianbeachrentals.com/Hawaii/Kauai/Kalihiwai/KalihiwaiBeachHouse.htm#description


http://www.exoticestates.com/destinations.shtml?view=map&highlight=3
I stayed in this one above. Loved it. Around a 4 min drive to the beach(15 min walk). Not totally secluded, but felt private. In maui it'll be very touch to find something with your criteria. Kauai in general has a more secluded feel, esp in the north shore. That's what I'd suggest.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: D-Mohel on June 14, 2013, 06:16:57 PM
http://www.hawaiianbeachrentals.com/Hawaii/Kauai/Princeville/HaleEmmalani.htm
http://www.hawaiianbeachrentals.com/Hawaii/Kauai/Poipu/KiahunaSunsetHouse.htm
http://www.hawaiianbeachrentals.com/Hawaii/Kauai/Kalihiwai/KalihiwaiBeachHouse.htm#description


http://www.exoticestates.com/destinations.shtml?view=map&highlight=3
I stayed in this one above. Loved it. Around a 4 min drive to the beach(15 min walk). Not totally secluded, but felt private. In maui it'll be very touch to find something with your criteria. Kauai in general has a more secluded feel, esp in the north shore. That's what I'd suggest.

Thank you very much!!  I am going to look into those options!!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on June 18, 2013, 07:32:05 PM
Android apps now out:
http://www.hawaiirevealed.com/hawaii-revealed-apps
Would this work (as far as auto location etc) on a nexus 7 (Wifi Only)?? I have a Galaxy s2 but I'd rather be using the tablet...
Also, if I purchase the app, will it work on both devices?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on June 18, 2013, 07:39:58 PM
Would this work (as far as auto location etc) on a nexus 7 (Wifi Only)?? I have a Galaxy s2 but I'd rather be using the tablet...
Also, if I purchase the app, will it work on both devices?

The Nexus 7 has a GPS even in the Wi-Fi only model (unlike the iPad), so yes, auto location would work fine.

Not sure about using it on both devices though.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on June 18, 2013, 08:44:03 PM
The Nexus 7 has a GPS even in the Wi-Fi only model (unlike the iPad), so yes, auto location would work fine.

Not sure about using it on both devices though.
Nice to know. I presume the maps will be preloaded from that app as our can't stream the data.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on June 18, 2013, 09:17:51 PM
Nice to know. I presume the maps will be preloaded from that app as our can't stream the data.

Correct, everything will be preloaded.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 09, 2013, 01:21:38 PM
going to maui and kaui. Where should i go surfing?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 09, 2013, 01:23:46 PM
going to maui and kaui. Where should i go surfing?

If you're a beginner they say the best place to learn is in Hanalei Bay in Kauai.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 09, 2013, 01:29:18 PM
If you're a beginner they say the best place to learn is in Hanalei Bay in Kauai.
Thanks. I'm really trying to get in shape before this trip, last thing I need is to go on one hike and spend the rest of my trip in bed (even if that bed happens to be in a suite in the GHK).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2013, 01:29:45 PM
If you're a beginner they say the best place to learn is in Hanalei Bay in Kauai.
Depends on the season.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 09, 2013, 01:53:35 PM
Depends on the season.
leaving 2 days after 9 av
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: adam0619 on July 09, 2013, 03:10:10 PM
Thanks. I'm really trying to get in shape before this trip, last thing I need is to go on one hike and spend the rest of my trip in bed (even if that bed happens to be in a suite in the GHK).

My wife and I went last summer and learned to surf in Maui with the Royal Hawaiian Surf Academy in Lahaina, http://www.royalhawaiiansurfacademy.com/ (http://www.royalhawaiiansurfacademy.com/).  We really liked them (TripAdvisor does, too! http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g60634-d1226680-Reviews-Royal_Hawaiian_Surf_Academy-Lahaina_Maui_Hawaii.html (http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g60634-d1226680-Reviews-Royal_Hawaiian_Surf_Academy-Lahaina_Maui_Hawaii.html)).  The "waves" are minimal at best, which makes for an easy and fun learning environment.  Midway through the lesson we were both riding the waves together into the beach.  They also have a photographer who takes great pictures of you and your party while surfing, and you can purchase a CD with the pictures for $20.  Highly recommended experience.

For a different flavor of adventure - if you can swing it (and stomach it), I HIGHLY recommend Birds in Paradise in Kauai http://www.birdsinparadise.com/ (http://www.birdsinparadise.com/).  An unforgettable experience.   
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2013, 03:15:21 PM
For a different flavor of adventure - if you can swing it (and stomach it), I HIGHLY recommend Birds in Paradise in Kauai http://www.birdsinparadise.com/ (http://www.birdsinparadise.com/).  An unforgettable experience.   
Buy a good life insurance policy first :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on July 09, 2013, 03:19:46 PM
Buy a good life insurance policy first :P
-1 I felt very safe in it. Not that it should ever come to it, but the trikes have built in parachutes just in case. Pilots are extremely well trained, and I'd take being out in the open flying myself over being flown in an enclosed helicopter any day. Helicopters crash too ya know :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 09, 2013, 03:21:59 PM
Helicopters crash too ya know
The percent of helicopter crashes in Hawaii is something like 1 in a million.

The percent of trike crashes is far greater than that.  There were several fatal crashes in just one year in Kauai and there is a tiny fraction of trike flights versus heli flights.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on July 09, 2013, 03:35:31 PM
The percent of helicopter crashes in Hawaii is something like 1 in a million.

The percent of trike crashes is far greater than that.  There were several fatal crashes in just one year in Kauai and there is a tiny fraction of trike flights versus heli flights.

That maybe true but just as with helicopters, who you choose is the most important factor. I don't think birds of paradise have experienced any crashes(may be wrong), and it seemed to me that they maintained their trikes very meticulously and took safety precautions seriously. I can't give you a statistical analysis or tell you your numbers are incorrect. Just saying it felt very safe, and the thrill is unparalleled. I've sent many people on these things and the feedback was the same.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: adam0619 on July 09, 2013, 03:35:47 PM
The percent of helicopter crashes in Hawaii is something like 1 in a million.

The percent of trike crashes is far greater than that.  There were several fatal crashes in just one year in Kauai and there is a tiny fraction of trike flights versus heli flights.

True, but they've had a good safety record for a number of years now, and still, the probability is infinitesimal.  But, like I said...
For a different flavor of adventure - if you can swing it (and stomach it)
:)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 09, 2013, 05:09:09 PM
@Dan, I noticed you mention in your tr's that you never pay full price, you just bargain them down. what do you do for those activities that make you book a few days in advance?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 09, 2013, 05:10:54 PM
For a different flavor of adventure - if you can swing it (and stomach it), I HIGHLY recommend Birds in Paradise in Kauai http://www.birdsinparadise.com/ (http://www.birdsinparadise.com/).  An unforgettable experience.
Try doing that with a pregnant wife, there are only so many things I'll be able to do alone.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: cherylnlajolla on July 09, 2013, 05:30:35 PM
Thanks. I'm really trying to get in shape before this trip, last thing I need is to go on one hike and spend the rest of my trip in bed (even if that bed happens to be in a suite in the GHK).

Have you surfed before?  You can help yourself get ready by doing push ups everyday and swimming (yoga would help too). 
I haven't been surfing in Maui yet (but will soon!) - but in Kauai Hanalei Bay was our favorite.   There are waves for every ability.  If you need lessons, Ethan Sage (esage78@gmail.com) gave me lots of pointers and you can hire him for lessons too.

Your pregnant wife would enjoy watching and hanging out at Hanalei Bay - it is beautiful (our favorite place on the island).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: adam0619 on July 09, 2013, 05:34:14 PM

Try doing that with a pregnant wife, there are only so many things I'll be able to do alone.

Oh well.

Allerton Garden in Kauai is a beautiful botanical garden and pregnant-friendly.  I'd recommend the guided tour of Allerton over the unguided tour of McBryde Garden.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: cherylnlajolla on July 09, 2013, 05:36:00 PM
I'd recommend (with your pregnant wife) Jack Harter doors off (first thing in the morning).  Best money I ever spent!!!  And do it early in your trip - gives a great overview of the whole island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 09, 2013, 05:52:38 PM
I'd recommend (with your pregnant wife) Jack Harter doors off (first thing in the morning).  Best money I ever spent!!!  And do it early in your trip - gives a great overview of the whole island.
Thanks, but for the Helicopter I'll be using Blue Hawaiian.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on July 10, 2013, 12:13:39 AM
Try doing that with a pregnant wife, there are only so many things I'll be able to do alone.
I'll go with you! I don't think my wife will be willing to do this either... I mean this just looks insane, although maybe Dan is right
Buy a good life insurance policy first :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2013, 12:26:29 AM
maybe Dan is right
It's good advice even if you're not doing risky activity.  But if you're doing something that is pretty rare and yet had 5 fatal crashes in a year's time in one state...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on July 10, 2013, 01:09:44 AM
It's good advice even if you're not doing risky activity.
I will need to look up the appropriate thread someday (didn't even search but knowing how vast and comprehensive DDF is I'm sure there is a great thread out there!) when I'll be in a position to afford it god willing.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2013, 01:11:28 AM
I will need to look up the appropriate thread someday (didn't even search but knowing how vast and comprehensive DDF is I'm sure there is a great thread out there!) when I'll be in a position to afford it god willing.
It can be less than the cost of your cell phone bill, just a matter of priorities.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on July 10, 2013, 02:08:45 AM
It can be less than the cost of your cell phone bill, just a matter of priorities.
Hmm even my good ole Sero plan :))?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 10, 2013, 09:37:39 AM
Hmm even my good ole Sero plan :))?
you didn't join Aron's plan yet?!?! :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on July 10, 2013, 11:13:42 AM
It can be less than the cost of your cell phone bill, just a matter of priorities.
+1, I'm in the process of buying now (just sat down with a broker who tried to sell me whole. I told him that's what your supposed to do and I'm supposed to say no thanks)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 10, 2013, 11:20:48 AM
+1, I'm in the process of buying now (just sat down with a broker who tried to sell me whole. I told him that's what your supposed to do and I'm supposed to say no thanks)
Lol
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on July 24, 2013, 10:57:37 AM
I am planning to go to Hawaii for 10 days with a 5 month old baby and a 6 year old girl. should I rather wait till I get a chance to go with out the kids or I can go now with my kids ?

also I cant decide which island to visit I have read most of this thread . but can u tell me clear what will I see in Kauai different then in Maui or the big Island  ?

thanks for you help
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: RJ898 on July 24, 2013, 03:33:40 PM
The big Island is the only one where you'll be able to see a live volcano, Maui has some black sand beaches but nothing like the big Island.
Maui itself is beautiful but try to get a hotel close to wailea, the hyatt Regency and other hotels are not in the nicest area.
I'll let you know about kauai in the next few days
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 24, 2013, 03:40:01 PM
I am planning to go to Hawaii for 10 days with a 5 month old baby and a 6 year old girl. should I rather wait till I get a chance to go with out the kids or I can go now with my kids ?

also I cant decide which island to visit I have read most of this thread . but can u tell me clear what will I see in Kauai different then in Maui or the big Island  ?

thanks for you help
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18475
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on September 08, 2013, 01:27:02 AM
Planning a November/December Hawaii trip.
I'd like to try out Maui but I really loved the quiet of Kauai and that island feel.
Will I be disappointed with Maui? Is it very tourist like ? Should I just head to Kauai again for now?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 08, 2013, 01:33:33 AM
Will I be disappointed with Maui?
No.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on September 08, 2013, 01:39:13 AM
Is it very tourist like ?
yes
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: yos9694 on September 22, 2013, 10:03:59 AM
Planning a November trip, already booked flights (EWR - HNL, KOA - EWR. We have Friday to do Pearl Harbor and Shabbos in HNL, want to fly out to the Big Island on Sunday) but haven't worked out other details yet. A few q's

1) Does Dan still book inter island flights for people?

2) How do you rent a car using points? I would want to get a car on  both HNL and Big Island.

3) I have SPG & UR points, but I have low hotel statuses (Platinum Hyatt, Gold SPG). I saw someone suggested it's better to find someone with elite status to book for me than to use my own points. Is that good advice?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: moto on November 01, 2013, 01:45:08 AM
I'm looking to do 3 islands oahu, Maui, Kona, I have 11 days with 2 shabbosim in the middle which island should I go to and for how long at each island I keep on changing my mind
. TIA
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: Dan on November 01, 2013, 01:56:23 AM
I'm looking to do 3 islands oahu, Maui, Kona, I have 11 days with 2 shabbosim in the middle which island should I go to and for how long at each island I keep on changing my mind
. TIA
Too short for 3 islands. Tofasta b'miruba...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: green on November 18, 2013, 02:15:56 AM
does anyone have timeshare that they are willing to sell? I need it for hawaii.
Title: Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
Post by: DP7 on December 15, 2013, 09:19:43 PM
Better island for 5 day trip with a 2 year old- Maui or Kauai?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 15, 2013, 10:35:49 PM
Better island for 5 day trip with a 2 year old- Maui or Kauai?
Both are fine.  Are you planning on using a babysitter?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DP7 on December 15, 2013, 10:38:11 PM
Both are fine.  Are you planning on using a babysitter?

No.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 15, 2013, 10:41:24 PM
No.
If your 2 year old gets up at 7 in NYC they'll get up at 2 in Hawaii.
Is it really worth it?
Most activities aren't really suitable for a 2 year old.  And if you just want the beach there are many far closer options in your time zone.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DP7 on December 15, 2013, 11:51:38 PM
If your 2 year old gets up at 7 in NYC they'll get up at 2 in Hawaii.
Is it really worth it?
Most activities aren't really suitable for a 2 year old.  And if you just want the beach there are many far closer options in your time zone.

I will be in LA for 3 days prior to Hawaii so that may help with the time zones a bit. And yes, although I may end up just on beaches and not fully appreciating the island, I have a chance to go that I don't know how soon will come again so I think it's worth it to make the trip. (I'm not sure a babysitter would solve the time difference problem anyway.)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 15, 2013, 11:58:31 PM
I dunno, I just don't see a 2 year old allowing you to enjoy the beach.
Seems like a whole lot of shlepping for little return.

As far as a babysitter, at least then you can either enjoy the island (with an on-island sitter) or if you bring someone from home they can even get up with the child, etc...

Don't get me wrong, HI is great.  I just think it's overkill in these situations.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DP7 on December 16, 2013, 12:05:02 AM
I dunno, I just don't see a 2 year old allowing you to enjoy the beach.
Seems like a whole lot of shlepping for little return.

As far as a babysitter, at least then you can either enjoy the island (with an on-island sitter) or if you bring someone from home they can even get up with the child, etc...

Don't get me wrong, HI is great.  I just think it's overkill in these situations.

I take it you had a babysitter here http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18333 ?

I guess we will have to wait for my TR to see if it was worth it.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 16, 2013, 12:07:57 AM
I take it you had a babysitter here http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/18333 ?
We didn't.
But a 4-5 month old has a much more malleable schedule than a 2 year old.  And they're not looking for trouble.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: DP7 on December 16, 2013, 12:13:03 AM
We didn't.
But a 4-5 month old has a much more malleable schedule than a 2 year old.  And they're not looking for trouble.

Well again, I have my own considerations here. Appreciate the warning but will be taking my chances on this one.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 16, 2013, 04:21:33 PM
How about going with a 7 year girl and a 5 month old baby for 2 weeks will the big one enjoy it ?  Will I be able to do allot . Or should I rather wait til I can go without the kids not so soon.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on December 16, 2013, 05:57:12 PM
The big one should enjoy it. Unfortunately it really depends on the kids personality. Some kids....
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 16, 2013, 06:34:02 PM
The big one should enjoy it. Unfortunately it really depends on the kids personality. Some kids....

+1.

Also consider getting a Baby Bjorn or something similar, since most places like beaches and hikes are really not stroller friendly.

Also remember that you will be limited in what you could do. You can't do kayaking , Na Pali hikes, and a million other things with little kids in tow. A heli tour (pretty much a must do) will cost you another seat for the 7 year old. You'll constantly have to stop for feedings, diaper changes, and naps.

We went with a 1 year old and weren't able to do 30% off what we wanted to. We still had an amazing time, mind you. But we can't wait to go back by ourselves and do all the things we missed.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on December 16, 2013, 08:17:05 PM
Dan also had a great point about a younger kid waking up at 2AM every night which would be a disaster.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 17, 2013, 12:59:16 AM
So is it a yes or no or maybe ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 17, 2013, 01:02:52 AM
So is it a yes or no or maybe ?

If you go you'll have an amazing time (impossible not to, really). If you wait and go later you'll possibly have a amazing-er time.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 17, 2013, 01:31:34 PM
So u r saying I should go ok . I am planning to go for two week after tushe bav now is the big question how should tell divide the days between the island ?

Any I am planning to book the tickets with points should I go first or business will be ok with a baby  from nyc

Thanks for u help
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 17, 2013, 02:01:27 PM
So u r saying I should go ok . I am planning to go for two week after tushe bav now is the big question how should tell divide the days between the island ?

Any I am planning to book the tickets with points should I go first or business will be ok with a baby  from nyc

Thanks for u help

We flew coach :P.

I would do two islands max. How to split them depends a lot on when which day you get there, and what you're doing re. Shabbos (one day or two).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 17, 2013, 02:13:09 PM
do we have to keep shabbes 2 days if yes how ? I wont to leave the day I find available with points or sunday I would prefer ?

so should I do the big island ? or Maui or Kauai ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 17, 2013, 02:17:10 PM
do we have to keep shabbes 2 days if yes how ? I wont to leave the day I find available with points or sunday I would prefer ?

so should I do the big island ? or Maui or Kauai ?

Re. Shabbos AYLOR.

If I were you I'd do Kauai and then the BI. Kauai for the otherworldy beauty and the BI for the volcano and Mauna Kea.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 17, 2013, 02:41:27 PM
so I should leave out Kauai for next time ? and how should I plan my days what to do ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 17, 2013, 02:52:12 PM
so I should leave out Kauai for next time ? and how should I plan my days what to do ?

Why will you leave out Kauai?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 17, 2013, 02:56:04 PM
so can I do all 3 ? and where should I be for shabbes near a shul .
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 17, 2013, 03:02:43 PM
so can I do all 3 ? and where should I be for shabbes near a shul .

All 3 is too much for 2 weeks.

The only shul AFAIK is in Kona on the BI (and of course there's one in Honolulu).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 17, 2013, 04:24:49 PM
With 2 weeks you can do:
-5 days on Kauai
travel day
-5 days on Maui
travel day
-2 days to see the volcano on the BI. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 17, 2013, 04:55:38 PM
So dan u r saying that I won't have time for the big island ?

Also which airport should I arrive to from nyc and how should I book my ticket I have all kind of points
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: compddd on December 17, 2013, 09:54:56 PM
Can I have a decent honeymoon for 2 weeks on Hawaii with 150,000 Starpoints?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skey on December 18, 2013, 11:46:45 AM
I don't have a long time to visit, and after reading the posts here, am wondering if I can really do as much as I wanted. Am flying in on a Sunday, and wanted to go straight to Maui, but it cost me too many points/miles, so I booked into HNL instead. We get into HNL at 12:30, and could fly out by 3:. I have a couple of questions, though
1. my husband really wants to see Pearl Harbor, so is it worth leaving my bags at the airport and going to Pearl Harbor till it closes at 4:30 and then fly out? or do you need much more time there? will that bring me into Mauii too late in the evening to settle in? or maybe we should come back on the tail end ?
2. I was thinking about spending shabbos on the big island near Chabad., (i.e. wednesday night, thursday night, friday night, sat night) and then flying to kaui from sunday till wednesday night when we leave. Not planning on swimming , or snorkling or anyy of that stuff, for tznius reasons.
Would this work? I can't see going back there so soon, so I'm trying to stuff in a lot of touring, in three places. Is this totally unreasonable?
thanks.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on December 18, 2013, 01:00:11 PM
Never been but I would fly out of HNL later. Would stay an extra day in Maui (leave Thursday evening) so you have Monday-Thursday (four days).
Friday see the volcano on the big island. Sunday-Wednesday (leave Wednesday evening) in Kaui. It's still a lot to squeeze in, but I think it it doable.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 22, 2013, 07:08:23 PM
I am planning to be 2 sabbes in Hawaii which island should I be in have to be near a shul . Also which hotel is near with points ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Amusch on December 25, 2013, 01:23:47 AM
Quote
I am planning to be 2 sabbes in Hawaii which island should I be in have to be near a shul . Also which hotel is near with points ?

I'm not a HI whiz, but to the best of my knowledge there is no shul in Kauai (only a Chabad Rabbi). Maui I don't know about.

Honolulu (Oahu) has a nice Chabad with Shabbos minyanim, meals (for $), and if you're lucky, some weekday too. They are in Waikiki Beach next to the Ala Moana Hotel, which does not have points, as far as I know. There are, however, a Sheraton Waikiki and a beautiful Hilton not far from the Chabad, though they'll probably cost you quite a few points. There's also a couple of Hyatts further down the block, but that could be quite a walk.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mochada on December 26, 2013, 01:31:37 PM
I will be in Hawaii (landing Sunday at 6 PM) until the following Sunday.  Suggestions: Should I split the week between two islands or is that too hectic? If I stick to one Island, the choices are Kauai or the Big Island? What do people suggest? TIA!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mochada on December 26, 2013, 05:13:07 PM
I will be in Hawaii (landing Sunday at 6 PM) until the following Sunday.  Suggestions: Should I split the week between two islands or is that too hectic? If I stick to one Island, the choices are Kauai or the Big Island? What do people suggest? TIA!

ETA:  We are staying the whole week on Kauai. GHK first half, family timeshare 2nd half.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shmebeble on December 28, 2013, 07:12:49 PM
I am landing in Oahu on a Wednesday night and leaving the following Sunday night.
I have already been to the Big Island. Is it worth me going Maui or Kauai directly from Oahu? or should I stay there and enjoy what it has to offer?
Thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 28, 2013, 07:45:25 PM
I am landing in Oahu on a Wednesday night and leaving the following Sunday night.
I have already been to the Big Island. Is it worth me going Maui or Kauai directly from Oahu? or should I stay there and enjoy what it has to offer?
Thanks
Oahu has plenty to offer if you get out of HNL.
Plus it has a shul, etc.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shmebeble on December 28, 2013, 09:11:22 PM
Oahu has plenty to offer if you get out of HNL.
Plus it has a shul, etc.
I think we will stay there- use SPG points to stay either at Sharaton Waikiki or princess and will rent a car from Hertz.
Now I need to plan outdoor excursions. All suggestions welcome- hiking a must.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 28, 2013, 09:16:29 PM
Now I need to plan outdoor excursions. All suggestions welcome- hiking a must.

Ask here (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1644.0).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shmebeble on December 28, 2013, 09:19:11 PM
Ask here (http://www.dansdeals.com/forums/index.php?topic=1644.0).
thanks.
I meant to search for that thread  :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 28, 2013, 09:27:46 PM
Everyone -

Please post your questions in the correct thread. This thread, as the title clearly states, is for general Hawaii questions only.

If you have any questions that pertains to a particular island, post it in the appropriate island thread. Click the "+" sign on top to open the thread wiki, and you'll find links to all island threads.

You'd get far better answers there, and chances are that your issue was already discussed at length too.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shidduch on December 28, 2013, 11:15:12 PM
First off, thank you dan for the delta tickets to Hawaii :)

My wife and I have been to Hawaii before.  However, my 3 older sons (9.7,3) have never been there.  We went to Oahu, THe big Island and Maui last time.  We are arriving on a wed night and staying through the following Thursday after noon so we have a week there.  We were planning on staying in Oahu through Shabbos and then flying to another Island on sunday or Monday and then returning to Oahu back for our flight home. The question is, which Island is most kid friendly and has enough to do for 3-4 days. Last time we stayed only 2 days on maui and 2 on the big island and I felt it wasn't enough, but it seems like there is not that much to do to occupy 4 days on the big Island.  We definitely don't want to spend most of our time on the beach we would like to activities that little boys would enjoy. I figured the big island was good because what could be more fascinating than volcanoes to little boys.  But maybe someone else here can suggest an alternative that we hadn't considered.  WHat I really liked about Maui was Molokini which was awesome for snorkeling but only my oldest would be able to go snorkeling with me.  We also enjoyed the whale watching on the way to Molokini.  Are there humpback watching boats on any of the other islands. What else can we do with little boys that would be fun on Maui. What about Kaui?

thanks for your help guys.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shidduch on December 28, 2013, 11:17:26 PM
also, we were thinking it would be best if we got a room with a kitchen. We have tons of spg points and could probably obtain points for other programs as well.  Which hotel points program would enable us to get a room with a kitchen?
Title: Shabbos in Hawaii- When? What Island?
Post by: mochada on December 31, 2013, 08:08:47 AM
If you are going to Hawaii- what shabbos will you be spending there? which island do you plan on staying on?

1/31-2/1- Kauai but may fly to the big island
Title: Re: Shabbos in Hawaii- When? What Island?
Post by: moish on December 31, 2013, 08:34:04 AM
If you are going to Hawaii- what shabbos will you be spending there? which island do you plan on staying on?

1/31-2/1- Kauai but may fly to the big island
are you asking for yourself or taking a poll?
Title: Re: Shabbos in Hawaii- When? What Island?
Post by: mochada on December 31, 2013, 09:04:47 AM
are you asking for yourself or taking a poll?

General info.
If people overlap, maybe Hawaii DO.

People can also share their experiences on different islands.
Title: Re: Shabbos in Hawaii- When? What Island?
Post by: shimmy on December 31, 2013, 09:35:19 PM
if your going for the weekend their should be a poll of which day you will be keeping shabbos  :P
Title: Re: Shabbos in Hawaii- When? What Island?
Post by: njmacman on December 31, 2013, 10:13:52 PM
I'm in! Which island? Oahu has chabad with davening in Waikiki.
Title: Re: Shabbos in Hawaii- When? What Island?
Post by: chevron on December 31, 2013, 10:39:33 PM
if your going for the weekend their should be a poll of which day you will be keeping shabbos  :P

the poll should be more like "what are you schlepping for the shluchim"

I have a case of wine in ny, la or miami that needs to get to hawaii, help me help the shluchim

i'll be on kona iyh shabbat march 29. please before you travel, ask the shluchim what they want and need
Title: Re: Shabbos in Hawaii- When? What Island?
Post by: mrnamressaw on December 31, 2013, 11:16:31 PM
the poll should be more like "what are you schlepping for the shluchim"

I have a case of wine in ny, la or miami that needs to get to hawaii, help me help the shluchim

i'll be on kona iyh shabbat march 29. please before you travel, ask the shluchim what they want and need
I can't agree more... Especially since allot of people are on bussnies class .. And can take three suitcases
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 01, 2014, 11:49:15 PM
Landing at 1:31pm to HNL and want to take a 2:42pm connection with Island Air (no interlining agreement with Delta).

Enough time to get luggage, change terminals, recheck bags and make the flight? (Going with 2 kids so I may be moving slower)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2014, 01:06:57 AM
That would be too tight even without kids.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 02, 2014, 05:33:56 AM
That would be too tight even without kids.
thanks. is another 20 min fine? Cause after that it's a few hrs.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 02, 2014, 12:20:05 PM
I am planning to be 2 sabbes in Hawaii which island should I be in have to be near a shul . Also which hotel is near with points ?
]The only one that clearly has all 3 things you might want for shabbos (shul, food/meals, and hotel with points) is Chabad on Oahu (http://www.chabadofhawaii.com/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/115473/jewish/General-Tourist-Information.htm) (in Honolulu). The shul has minyanim and pay-per shabbos meals (or you can order catered shabbos meals). There are 2 Marriots, 2 Hyatts, 4 Starwoods, at least 4 Hiltons, etc within walking distance.

Past that, the rest are missing at least one piece. Chabad on the Big Island (http://jewishbigisland.org/?page_id=43) has a shul in Kona with Shabbos minyanim as well as par-per shabbos meals, but no hotels on points. Chabad on Kauai (http://www.jewishkauai.org/templates/articlecco_cdo/aid/2274084/jewish/Visitor-Info.htm) has a 'shul' in Princeville with Shabbos minyanim and there's a Westin (SPG points) within walking distance, but no mention of options for Shabbos food/meals. Chabad on Maui (http://jewishmaui.com/shabbat-service-and-hospitality/) sells Shabbos food, but doesn't appear to have a shul or minyanim.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: arid on January 02, 2014, 08:08:05 PM
http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/4325058
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2014, 08:20:54 PM
Oahu/Waikiki shabbos minyan: 100%.
Big Island/Kona shabbos minyan: 90%
Kauai/Princeville shabbos minyan: Rarely, but been getting close thanks to tourists of late. 
Maui has no shabbos minyan but has a Mon/Thurs minyan in upcountry/Kula.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 02, 2014, 08:23:51 PM
Oahu shabbos meals: $70/adult, $54/kid.
Big Island shabbos meals: $54/$45 kid.
Kauai shabbos meals: Call in advance to check.
Maui sells complete shabbos food for a $180 suggested donation.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 02, 2014, 08:26:09 PM
Am I the only crazy person that takes enjoyment in cooking my own food fresh on vacation?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on January 02, 2014, 08:34:19 PM
Am I the only crazy person that takes enjoyment in cooking my own food fresh on vacation?

I don't think they're going for the food. I think it's more the company.
I'm with you. I like doing my own thing.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on January 02, 2014, 08:45:52 PM
Am I the only crazy person that takes enjoyment in cooking my own food fresh on vacation?
I like to BBQ on vacation. But cook my own shabbos food: no thanks. Either take out, bring from home or chabad
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 02, 2014, 08:55:18 PM
I like to BBQ on vacation. But cook my own shabbos food: no thanks. Either take out, bring from home or chabad
I bbq'd right before shabbos delicious fresh salmon on the grill wrapped in aluminum foil with some olive oil and spices. Heated up the challah on it too. Brought a flieshig pot to heat up my frozen soup like we do every shabbos (and used it to make other suppers as well). Chala fish soup with veg and chicken is all I can eat friday night anyways.


Again it may be me. But part of my vacation fun is coming up with creative ways to eat just as well as if I were home, if not better. If your telling me I can eat in a kosher restaurant where I am then ok. But to stam pickup meals that I can make 5x better myself and for far less then no thank you.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 02, 2014, 09:05:59 PM
Not specifically for this thread but anyone here fly with Go! Mesa airlines?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 02, 2014, 10:54:51 PM
Oahu/Waikiki shabbos minyan: 100%.
Big Island/Kona shabbos minyan: 90%
Kauai/Princeville shabbos minyan: Rarely, but been getting close thanks to tourists of late. 
Maui has no shabbos minyan but has a Mon/Thurs minyan in upcountry/Kula.
Oahu shabbos meals: $70/adult, $54/kid.
Big Island shabbos meals: $54/$45 kid.
Kauai shabbos meals: Call in advance to check.
Maui sells complete shabbos food for a $180 suggested donation.
Thanks, great info! My brother is planning his honeymoon for February. He's currently booked at the Sheraton Kauai Tues/Wed and the GHK Thu/Fri/Sat/Sun. Is it even worth calling to find out the minyan/meals situation in Princeville for the shabbos he'll be there, and then switching to something like GHK Tue/Wed/Thu, Westin Princeville Fri/Sat, back to GHK for Sun. What did you do for food when you were at the GHK for Shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: daganster on January 02, 2014, 11:24:46 PM
I'm travelling to Hawaii in August with 3 kids for 10 days. I'm sure this question has been asked before "Which islands to go to"? I'm landing and departing in HNL, so my thoughts are to fly to either LIH/KOA/OGG for a week, and then spend a few days in HNL. So if anyone has any suggestions as to which island to hit up for a week it'll be greatly appreciated.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on January 03, 2014, 10:07:46 AM
I like to BBQ on vacation. But cook my own shabbos food: no thanks. Either take out, bring from home or chabad
+1
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 03, 2014, 10:13:50 AM
I'm travelling to Hawaii in August with 3 kids for 10 days. I'm sure this question has been asked before "Which islands to go to"? I'm landing and departing in HNL, so my thoughts are to fly to either LIH/KOA/OGG for a week, and then spend a few days in HNL. So if anyone has any suggestions as to which island to hit up for a week it'll be greatly appreciated.
Disney resort really looks great for kids. Look into it. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: daganster on January 03, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
Disney resort really looks great for kids. Look into it. 
Thats in HNL, right?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 03, 2014, 10:22:07 AM
Thats in HNL, right?
ya
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: daganster on January 03, 2014, 10:24:17 AM
Disney resort really looks great for kids. Look into it. 
I'ts $10k for 3 nights for 3 adults ::)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on January 03, 2014, 10:25:56 AM
I'ts $10k for 3 nights for 3 adults ::)
Im gonna be on the lookout for a nice sale. Reviews look stellar. And I have quite a few months to go.
Title: Re: Maui Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on January 03, 2014, 02:05:36 PM
Anyone in Maui or kauai shabbos 2/15  or 2/22 Looking to make a minyan and can bring a torah
My brother will be at the GHK (wrong thread for that though) on one of those 2 shabbosim. Not sure which, but I can find out.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 03, 2014, 02:23:35 PM
Anyone in big island, Maui or kauai shabbos 2/15  or 2/22 Looking to make a minyan and can bring a torah
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 03, 2014, 02:25:23 PM
Anyone in big island, Maui or kauai shabbos 2/15  or 2/22 Looking to make a minyan and can bring a torah
Kauai has a shul.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 03, 2014, 02:34:32 PM
has anyone ever gone to hawaii with a 2 month old?  I know Dan you have gone with a 5 month old you think I'll be able to do anything? Kinda nervous about the flight but how can I pass up on $110 first class tix to hnl from jfk
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on January 03, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
has anyone ever gone to hawaii with a 2 month old?  I know Dan you have gone with a 5 month old you think I'll be able to do anything? Kinda nervous about the flight but how can I pass up on $110 first class tix to hnl from jfk
No babysitter to leave him home with? Nursing?
Easier with a two month old than a five month old.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 03, 2014, 02:46:01 PM
Nursing.  Actually booked 2 extra tix to take the baby's grandparents too. I figured for another $220 i'd get free babysitting while there. But anything I can actually do with the baby?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: daganster on January 04, 2014, 11:11:06 PM
Im gonna be on the lookout for a nice sale. Reviews look stellar. And I have quite a few months to go.
Please let me know if you find a good deal. When are you flying? Are you visiting other islands?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 05, 2014, 01:10:31 AM
Has anyone ever been to molokai or lanai? Any advice?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hawaii on January 05, 2014, 08:51:29 PM
I'm a 25 year old Chabad guy going to Hawaii by myself from 21-26 January. Just wondering if there is anyone else out there going around the same dates that would be interested in touring together.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Chief Rabbi of New York on January 06, 2014, 02:59:33 PM
I am going to be staying at the hilton hawaiin village wakiki beach resort. which is the best tower to stay in? they have a few different options
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 09, 2014, 12:11:01 AM
Can i book a flight from hnl-lih-lny and exten the stop in hnl on way from lih-lny

trying to figure out best way to book hnl-lih-hnl-lny-koa
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mochada on January 09, 2014, 09:40:14 PM
How long does the transfer and check-in take from the main terminal in HNL to the Interisland Terminal?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on January 10, 2014, 12:33:54 PM
Going to Hawaii with the Delta special and wanted to get some feedback on my initial plans.

I will be travelling with two children ages 6 and 3. Planning on going to Maui and Kauai.

Arriving in HNL on Sunday 6/29 at 1:35 pm.

HNL-OGG at 2:45 pm arriving at 3:24 pm on 6/29

OGG-LIH on Thursday 7/3. There are two flights available on points 11:53 am arriving 12:38 pm and 2:09 pm arriving 2:54 pm. Leaning towards the earlier flight to avoid splitting the day in half and having more time in LIH

LIH-HNL on Tuesday 7/8 at 9:12 am arriving 9:44 am

Leaving from HNL on Tuesday 7/8 at 12:20 pm.

Wanted to get some feedback on the split between the two island and whether I should make any adjustments to the itinerary.

Planning on booking the inter-island flights using United miles at 10k each.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Chief Rabbi of New York on January 10, 2014, 03:46:18 PM
has anyone ever stayed at the hilton hawaiin village wakiki beach resort and can please give me some feedback as to which tower to stay in?

Thank you
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mochada on January 12, 2014, 09:26:05 AM
How long does the transfer and check-in take from the main terminal in HNL to the Interisland Terminal?

bump.

Do we need to go back through security? Anyone who has been through HNL, please chime in as many people will have similar Qs closer to their flights.

TIA!
Title: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on January 12, 2014, 09:51:12 AM
bump.

Do we need to go back through security? Anyone who has been through HNL, please chime in as many people will have similar Qs closer to their flights.

TIA!

GIYF plus on the DDMS he mentions to allow a lot of time to transfer. Most places suggested 30-75 minutes. 30 minutes seems tight even in the same terminal without the possibility of having to recheck bags. I booked 1:30 - 2:00 connections since I am traveling with kids.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 12, 2014, 09:52:29 AM
Definitely a shlep. Especially if you need to recheck bags.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mochada on January 12, 2014, 11:30:54 AM
Definitely a shlep. Especially if you need to recheck bags.

So it seems- I cannot check my bags all the way through since I book a later flight on HA based on my current itinerary.  I am hoping I can get on an earlier flight confirmed/standby from my origin.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 13, 2014, 01:39:25 AM
Added this to the Kauai wiki (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1643.0) re. interisland flights (of course it applies to all other islands as well). I think I left out some options (Aeroplan and Delta perhaps?) - if someone has more info I would appreciate it if they could add it in.

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Alternately, you can also use 5K UA or AA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 10K miles.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2014, 04:32:12 PM
Any recent reports of interlining baggage to HA from the mainland when the HA ticket is booked separately?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2014, 04:42:02 PM
Any recent reports of interlining baggage to HA from the mainland when the HA ticket is booked separately?
+1, would love to hear some data points on this, and I'm sure there are many others in the same boat (ie booked with Delta to HNL and are flying Hawaiian or Island Air with United miles to another island).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 13, 2014, 04:54:41 PM
Found this encouraging report:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20559951-post250.html
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on January 13, 2014, 04:59:16 PM
Found this encouraging report:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/20559951-post250.html

Good to know. Seems that ticket numbers and/or boarding passes and a knowledgeable rep a required to make it happen.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 13, 2014, 05:13:54 PM
Good to know. Seems that ticket numbers and/or boarding passes and a knowledgeable rep a required to make it happen.
Sounds like he did everything at the airport, not something you would plan for. I wouldn't want to book a shorter connection time in HNL, only to get to the JFK (or OGG on the way back) and not be able to have them send the bags all the way through. Also, does the fact that this was UA-HA as opposed to DL-HA make any difference?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on January 13, 2014, 05:26:21 PM
Sounds like he did everything at the airport, not something you would plan for. I wouldn't want to book a shorter connection time in HNL, only to get to the JFK (or OGG on the way back) and not be able to have them send the bags all the way through.

Agreed. I booked a longer connection for this reason but it would be nice not to have to shlep bags. I meant the rep at check-in at the airport.

Also, does the fact that this was UA-HA as opposed to DL-HA make any difference?

Good question, although DL does show Hawaiian availability on their website so I don't know why DL would be different than UA.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: NathanEsq on January 13, 2014, 08:15:32 PM
Visiting Hawaii in February for 5 days, we have already been to Wakiki, any advice on where else on Oahu we should stay that would be family friendly, as were bringing our 14 month old.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on January 14, 2014, 10:41:18 AM
Visiting Hawaii in February for 5 days, we have already been to Wakiki, any advice on where else on Oahu we should stay that would be family friendly, as were bringing our 14 month old.
Go check out a different island
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jaywhy on January 14, 2014, 02:52:48 PM
Going to HI next week for a week. We are arriving Monday night.

I'd like to spend some time on Oahu and Kauai but spend Shabbos in Oahu.
We are landing too late on Monday to catch any connections so the current plan is to spend Monday night near HNL and catch an early morning flight to Kauai, stay there until Thursday night or Friday morning and return to Oahu for Shabbos.

Reason for returning to Oahu for Shabbos is because it seems from my reading that keeping Shabbos in the Oahu hotels is a lot easier than keeping it in Kauai hotels.

Anyone with feedback on our plans?
I'm very open to rearranging the whole thing if someone can come up with a better idea.
Traveling with a 1.5 year old.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 14, 2014, 02:55:43 PM

We are landing too late on Monday to catch any connections
Time?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jaywhy on January 14, 2014, 03:08:03 PM
Time?
9:58pm HST.
Seems like to the last flight of the day departs at 9:51pm.
Only way we could get there earlier is if we manage to SDC and get on the DL ATL-HNL flight which lands at 3:49pm.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Tzadik Nistar on January 14, 2014, 03:30:36 PM
Reason for returning to Oahu for Shabbos is because it seems from my reading that keeping Shabbos in the Oahu hotels is a lot easier than keeping it in Kauai hotels.
Regarding Shul and food you are right its better in Oahu, but regarding hotels its very hard to find hotels in Oahu that don't have sensors in the staircase.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jaywhy on January 14, 2014, 04:17:17 PM
Regarding Shul and food you are right its better in Oahu, but regarding hotels its very hard to find hotels in Oahu that don't have sensors in the staircase.
Which hotels in Kauai are optimal for a Shabbos stay?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 14, 2014, 04:21:21 PM
I don't think it's worth shlepping to LIH for just 2 days.  Will just have you wanting more.

I would either stay in Oahu where there's plenty to keep you busy or maybe go to ITO for 2 days where you can see the volcano and Mauna Kea and check it off your list.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 14, 2014, 04:21:53 PM
Regarding Shul and food you are right its better in Oahu, but regarding hotels its very hard to find hotels in Oahu that don't have sensors in the staircase.
Hyatt, Royal Hawaiian, Ala Moana, etc, etc.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 14, 2014, 05:07:09 PM
Called Delta. They wont put my bags through from the glitch tickets to a hawaiian ticket. They said even if I book the hnl-lih flight from them on miles on hawaiian Ill still have to go claim my bags and recheck them. Side point Delta does offer interisland flights for only 15000 miles round trip good way to burn those pesos
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jaywhy on January 15, 2014, 11:00:26 AM
I don't think it's worth shlepping to LIH for just 2 days.  Will just have you wanting more.

I would either stay in Oahu where there's plenty to keep you busy or maybe go to ITO for 2 days where you can see the volcano and Mauna Kea and check it off your list.
What about if we went to LIH for 5 nights including Shabbos and spent 2 days on Oahu instead?
I'd much rather spend time in Kauai than Oahu, especially if we can split our time between St Regis and GHK.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jaywhy on January 15, 2014, 03:36:20 PM
How long of a connect time do we need between LIH-HNL-LAX? Assuming no interlining.

ETA: EF says 1:15 for an D/D offline connection at HNL. Does that make sense?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 15, 2014, 06:11:44 PM
How long of a connect time do we need between LIH-HNL-LAX? Assuming no interlining.

ETA: EF says 1:15 for an D/D offline connection at HNL. Does that make sense?

Not sure of a time, but keep in mind that you'll also have to change terminals.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jd399 on January 15, 2014, 08:20:48 PM
Which company is the best for snorkeling to molokini in maui?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on January 16, 2014, 10:31:16 AM
Which company is the best for snorkeling to molokini in maui?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=4.510 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=4.510)
No need to post in both threads ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ringsher on January 17, 2014, 01:45:00 PM
I'm not sure if I should post in this thread or a specific island thread but here goes:

I've a few questions re: Hawaii as we are going there in February (thank you Dan!!)

 We will only be there for a little more than 4 days. We are considering traveling with a 15 month old (as opposed to leaving him with grandma) and have some questions:

1) Since we booked via our phone in order to buy the tiks before the price mistake got fixed, we only were able to book for coach seats and I stupidly didn't book a seat for my baby. Do they give bassinets in coach? Would they even fit a strapping 15 month old? How do parents travel with a toddler on the lap? When we called to ask for another seat they want to charge us full price (which they claim is over $1000!)

2) Is the weather appropriate in February to bring our baby to the beach? Will we be able to go into the water? From what I've researched it averages 70-80 degrees but I don't know if the water is warm enough.

3) We have already been to Waikiki before baby. So we wanted to go somewhere else. Does anyone know of a HOTEL which a kitchenette and has a beach suitable for children? I'm trying to see if there are any hotels I can use points for which have kitchens instead of shelling out for a condo. If Waikiki is the only beach that's suitable (due to the calm waters) for the baby then we will stay there again.

4) What do families do about renting cars? Apparently there's parking fees everywhere we looked.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on January 17, 2014, 01:51:28 PM
I'm not sure if I should post in this thread or a specific island thread but here goes:

I've a few questions re: Hawaii as we are going there in February (thank you Dan!!)

 We will only be there for a little more than 4 days. We are considering traveling with a 15 month old (as opposed to leaving him with grandma) and have some questions:

1) Since we booked via our phone in order to buy the tiks before the price mistake got fixed, we only were able to book for coach seats and I stupidly didn't book a seat for my baby. Do they give bassinets in coach? Would they even fit a strapping 15 month old? How do parents travel with a toddler on the lap? When we called to ask for another seat they want to charge us full price (which they claim is over $1000!)
No way a fifteen month old will fit. Leave her with grandma

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2) Is the weather appropriate in February to bring our baby to the beach? Will we be able to go into the water? From what I've researched it averages 70-80 degrees but I don't know if the water is warm enough.
You'll probably be more sensitive to the water than the baby. They are adaptable creatures

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3) We have already been to Waikiki before baby. So we wanted to go somewhere else. Does anyone know of a HOTEL which a kitchenette and has a beach suitable for children? I'm trying to see if there are any hotels I can use points for which have kitchens instead of shelling out for a condo. If Waikiki is the only beach that's suitable (due to the calm waters) for the baby then we will stay there again.
Get off HNL. Go to LIH or OGG

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4) What do families do about renting cars? Apparently there's parking fees everywhere we looked.
Rent and pay the parking fee?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ringsher on January 18, 2014, 10:55:46 PM
Lol thank you Ergel! I'm sure you're quite right about leaving him home but I can't bear the thought. Plus I imagine I'm going to get calls 2 days later begging us to come back!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on January 18, 2014, 11:28:00 PM
Lol thank you Ergel! I'm sure you're quite right about leaving him home but I can't bear the thought. Plus I imagine I'm going to get calls 2 days later begging us to come back!
It's good for your marriage. Just do it. You'll never regret it
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 23, 2014, 10:47:02 PM
Which airline will be the best to fly to hawaii in Business. Obviously united direct from Ewr to HNL but if there is never saver award availabilty. Are there any other good business class ways to go from NY. I know Hawaiian first is really just a glorified regular class and might as well just fly regular and buy a exit seat for $75
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 23, 2014, 10:56:23 PM
Which airline will be the best to fly to hawaii in Business. Obviously united direct from Ewr to HNL but if there is never saver award availabilty. Are there any other good business class ways to go from NY. I know Hawaiian first is really just a glorified regular class and might as well just fly regular and buy a exit seat for $75
Are you asking specifically direct? Those are the only 2 options for that (United from EWR and Hawaiian from JFK).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: daganster on January 23, 2014, 11:00:22 PM
Which airline will be the best to fly to hawaii in Business. Obviously united direct from Ewr to HNL but if there is never saver award availabilty. Are there any other good business class ways to go from NY. I know Hawaiian first is really just a glorified regular class and might as well just fly regular and buy a exit seat for $75
If it's not direct you can fly via Lax on AA's A321 which is quite nice.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 23, 2014, 11:04:40 PM
Obviously united direct from Ewr to HNL but if there is never saver award availabilty.
Lol. Had no problem booking 5 saver seats on several days recently.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Kabrams1618 on January 23, 2014, 11:08:08 PM
What's the best way to fly from tel aviv to Hawaii coach.
We don't have enough points but possibly part of trip since we end a stopover in phl/newark on way up or back
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 23, 2014, 11:18:45 PM
I can find saver seats but not on the days I need  I'm looking for last week of feb from hnl-ewr. i only see 2/6 with saver award business hnl-nyc
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 24, 2014, 10:29:07 AM
Planning a trip to Hawaii for next October. Would have from a Tuesday afternoon when I arrive till Sunday night. Is there a difference between the big island and Kauai in regard to the short amount of time there? I have only been to Maui before.

Also is there decent scuba diving and beaches in Kauai or is it more known for it's natural beauty such as the hikes and Waimea canyon etc. These questions are relative to the big island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 24, 2014, 10:37:54 AM
If you want great scuba/snorkeling you prob want the BI.
Do you hold 1 or 2 days shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 24, 2014, 11:20:21 AM
If you want great scuba/snorkeling you prob want the BI.
Do you hold 1 or 2 days shabbos?
Just 1 day. How do the beaches rate between Kauai and the BI?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 24, 2014, 11:24:47 AM
Just 1 day. How do the beaches rate between Kauai and the BI?
BI's Kohala coast has some of the best in the state.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Fan of Dan on January 24, 2014, 11:26:00 AM
BI's Kohala coast has some of the best in the state.
Gotcha. Would you say that 4 days (1 of them being Friday) would be a reason to choose one over the other? It's not like I won't be back it's a matter of which one when.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on January 24, 2014, 11:29:56 AM
I am planning to go in Aug nyc to hnl and I see available with AA with Hawaiian Airlines first class should I book it ? or they first class is not so good ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 24, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
I am planning to go in Aug nyc to hnl and I see available with AA with Hawaiian Airlines first class should I book it ? or they first class is not so good ?


Which airline will be the best to fly to hawaii in Business. Obviously united direct from Ewr to HNL but if there is never saver award availabilty. Are there any other good business class ways to go from NY. I know Hawaiian first is really just a glorified regular class and might as well just fly regular and buy a exit seat for $75
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on January 24, 2014, 11:47:34 AM

is it true ? if yes what is my other options
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 25, 2014, 07:28:44 PM
Lol. Had no problem booking 5 saver seats on several days recently.

Saver business or regular?  I don't see any saver business at all for months if any and I'm logged into my account
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 25, 2014, 07:52:50 PM
Saver business or regular?  I don't see any saver business at all for months if any and I'm logged into my account
Saver of course.
Because evil people like me grab it when we see it :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Elgnt on January 25, 2014, 09:15:58 PM
You grab it even if the days aren't the days you want?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on January 25, 2014, 09:22:05 PM
So which airlines has the best first class nyc to Hawaii with a stop or without ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shmu on January 26, 2014, 01:02:14 PM
Members can you please share what food you prepared for Hawaii?

Dan can we get some info from your rebbetzin?

TIA
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on January 26, 2014, 03:42:59 PM
Members can you please share what food you prepared for Hawaii?

Dan can we get some info from your rebbetzin?

TIA
I brought lots of ready to grill stuff (marinated schnitzel, hot dogs etc) and as far as food that just required being heated up, we got food from La gondola in LA prefrozen and double wrapped. Also bought pasta there which we prepared on our electric burner.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 28, 2014, 01:09:58 PM
Anyone want 5 BF seats EWR-HNL 02/03?
Going to release them soon.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ns on February 02, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
Hi,

I am planning a trip to Hawai in May & I was wondering what the best island to visit would be.  I am not sure if I will limit the trip to just 1 island or two (as tickets are expensive enough just to fly to Hawai). I'm looking to do water sports, zipling, following some easier hiking/trails to scenic sites, checking out the rainforest & Volcanoes.  Which island would you recommend if I could only pick one (or possibly two). Also does any 1 island work out better than the rest in terms of kosher food or Chabad/Shabbos plans.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing a lot of reading, but I still do not what island to choose....
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on February 02, 2014, 03:27:42 PM
Hi,

I am planning a trip to Hawai in May & I was wondering what the best island to visit would be.  I am not sure if I will limit the trip to just 1 island or two (as tickets are expensive enough just to fly to Hawai). I'm looking to do water sports, zipling, following some easier hiking/trails to scenic sites, checking out the rainforest & Volcanoes.  Which island would you recommend if I could only pick one (or possibly two). Also does any 1 island work out better than the rest in terms of kosher food or Chabad/Shabbos plans.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing a lot of reading, but I still do not what island to choose....

I'd choose Kauai or Maui.  Though if you want a Chabad stick to Maui.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 02, 2014, 03:28:17 PM
Hi,

I am planning a trip to Hawai in May & I was wondering what the best island to visit would be.  I am not sure if I will limit the trip to just 1 island or two (as tickets are expensive enough just to fly to Hawai). I'm looking to do water sports, zipling, following some easier hiking/trails to scenic sites, checking out the rainforest & Volcanoes.  Which island would you recommend if I could only pick one (or possibly two). Also does any 1 island work out better than the rest in terms of kosher food or Chabad/Shabbos plans.

Any info would be greatly appreciated. I've been doing a lot of reading, but I still do not what island to choose....

If you only want to do 1 island it sounds like Maui is the one for you. It's got the best balance between touristy/remote, activities/nature, etc.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ns on February 02, 2014, 08:00:00 PM
Thanks for the info. It seems flights are cheaper to Oahu. I'm thinking maybe Oahu & Maui, would anyone recommend Oahu. Also in terms of Shabbos, was thinking about staying near Chabad, does the Chabad of Oahu & maui offer the same. Any preferable hotels near Chabad that have manual keys & don't pose problems to Shabbos that are not too pricey?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on February 03, 2014, 10:08:59 AM
Thanks for the info. It seems flights are cheaper to Oahu. I'm thinking maybe Oahu & Maui, would anyone recommend Oahu. Also in terms of Shabbos, was thinking about staying near Chabad, does the Chabad of Oahu & maui offer the same. Any preferable hotels near Chabad that have manual keys & don't pose problems to Shabbos that are not too pricey?
As long as the Shabbos isn't smack in the middle of the trip, spend Shabbos on Oahu and as much of the rest of the time as you can on Maui.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shmuelb on February 03, 2014, 12:01:49 PM
Nu, when is the Royal Family coming back?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: an613 on February 09, 2014, 12:21:40 AM
Going to HI via delta glitch on Thursday for a week and really want to go to Kauai but looks like GHK and all the SPG hotels are completely booked for the weekend. Any personal recommendations for other hotels or condos on Kauai that aren't outrageously expensive? Or is it worth it to just go to another island this trip and hope to come back to Kauai another trip.

THanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ploni3 on February 14, 2014, 12:02:54 PM
Any suggestions for "tzniusdig" places to snorkel and do other "Hawaiian" activities? thanks,
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2014, 12:08:39 PM
Any suggestions for "tzniusdig" places to snorkel and do other "Hawaiian" activities? thanks,
Your jacuzzi.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ploni3 on February 14, 2014, 12:16:21 PM
In all seriousness, is it basically impossible to do that? Is it a waste of time trying to plan. Is it worse than other sun places in the US where you can find secluded places with planning?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: momo on February 14, 2014, 12:26:26 PM
I was in Kauai, and had plenty of secluded beaches. Do not know if you can plan it before. I would say rent snorkeling gear for the week, and keep it in the car. That way whenever you find somewhere, you can just go.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 14, 2014, 12:32:51 PM
Any suggestions for "tzniusdig" places to snorkel and do other "Hawaiian" activities? thanks,

Your best bet is a beach you have to hike to. With most Hawaiian beaches you could just roll out of your car or hotel room and land on the sand, so the vast majority of people will do just that. If it takes a 20-minute hike to get to a beach, there's usually no one there.

Honomolino Bay on the Big Island is a great example of this - you have to take a crazy winding road down the mountain, then you have to hike for 20 minutes (a beautiful, lovely hike, btw). By the time your get to the beach chances are you'll be the only one.

Early morning is another good time to own a beach. As long as it's not in front of a hotel and slightly out of the way (like Tunnels Beach in Kauai), it'll be all yours. In fact, the snorkeling is even better then than later, since the water is clearer and calmer and there are more fish around. I know you're on vacation, but if you wake up early you could watch the sunrise from the beach and then swim right in. Absolute heaven, trust me.

You might find some people taking early morning walks then, so just settle down on the far end of the beach and it'll be all yours.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 14, 2014, 12:40:05 PM
I know these topics have been discussed at length and I read all of dans posts on the main site for the islands but I'd really appreciate if anyone can offer their thoughts on my planned trip.

I got the delta glitch for May 20-26. We're landing in hnl at 2pm on Tuesday may 20 and leaving at 12pm on Monday, the 26th. I really want to go to Kauai or Maui. What do you guys think of staying in Waikiki until Thursday morning then flying early to Kauai or Maui and spending Thursday through Monday morning there? I know dan says at least four days is necessary for any island but I really wanna get a taste of more than one island. Would that be enough time in each one? We wanna try to do water sports, hiking and other activities. At least in the second island.

Also, are there active volcanoes to see on any islands other than the big island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 14, 2014, 12:52:54 PM
How many days shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 14, 2014, 12:57:42 PM
How many days shabbos?

I didnt get a psak yet but let's assume one.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 14, 2014, 12:58:43 PM
Oh and I just realized that Maui doesnt have minyanim on shabbos so lets change that to the big island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 14, 2014, 01:02:22 PM
Oh and I just realized that Maui doesnt have minyanim on shabbos so lets change that to the big island.

So there's your active volcano taken care of ;).

Maybe do 2 or 3 days on Oahu and do your watersports, then the BI for the rest if the time. Do the Volcano, Mauna Kea, snorkeling, etc.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2014, 01:03:11 PM
What does Oahu offer than Maui doesn't?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on February 14, 2014, 01:03:35 PM
I know these topics have been discussed at length and I read all of dans posts on the main site for the islands but I'd really appreciate if anyone can offer their thoughts on my planned trip.

I got the delta glitch for May 20-26. We're landing in hnl at 2pm on Tuesday may 20 and leaving at 12pm on Monday, the 26th. I really want to go to Kauai or Maui. What do you guys think of staying in Waikiki until Thursday morning then flying early to Kauai or Maui and spending Thursday through Monday morning there? I know dan says at least four days is necessary for any island but I really wanna get a taste of more than one island. Would that be enough time in each one? We wanna try to do water sports, hiking and other activities. At least in the second island.

Also, are there active volcanoes to see on any islands other than the big island?
It sounds like you're planning on spending time on Oahu regardless and just trying to figure out if you can also do the Big Island. Why not just spend all (or as much as you can) of the time on the Big Island (ie don't leave the airport at HNL)? Then you'll have a full 5 days on the Big Island. If you have an activity or 2 you really want to do on Oahu, you can make your HNL-KOA flight as late on Tuesday as possible and/or your KOA-HNL flight as early on Monday as possible, giving you an afternoon/night and a morning to accomplish that.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 14, 2014, 01:06:00 PM
What does Oahu offer than Maui doesn't?

Nothing, but with so little time why not save Maui for next time and do it properly? Rather get Oahu out of the way I think.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 14, 2014, 01:08:18 PM
So there's your active volcano taken care of ;).

Maybe do 2 or 3 days on Oahu and do your watersports, then the BI for the rest if the time. Do the Volcano, Mauna Kea, snorkeling, etc.

Haha. I guess so. Sounds good. That's what I was thinking. It just bugs me a little that I cant do Maui or Kauai. Im kinda stuck to the big island just because I want a minyan for shabbos (which doesnt sound guaranteed anyway but more of a chance than Maui or Kauai).

Unless I should just stay in Oahu for the whole trip? I kinda just want to get out and explore a little bit, especially since Oahu is the most touristy of the bunch.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 14, 2014, 01:09:43 PM
It sounds like you're planning on spending time on Oahu regardless and just trying to figure out if you can also do the Big Island. Why not just spend all (or as much as you can) of the time on the Big Island (ie don't leave the airport at HNL)? Then you'll have a full 5 days on the Big Island. If you have an activity or 2 you really want to do on Oahu, you can make your HNL-KOA flight as late on Tuesday as possible and/or your KOA-HNL flight as early on Monday as possible, giving you an afternoon/night and a morning to accomplish that.

Truth is I was originally going to go straight but I feel like its such a waste not to get out and see it a little. I also want to be in a place, at least for a little, where I can take in the sites in a convertible :-)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2014, 01:10:06 PM
Spend the whole time on the BI.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 14, 2014, 01:13:27 PM
Spend the whole time on the BI.

What about if I dont wanna be somewhere the whole time driving a big 4x4? Does that change your opinion or youd still say I should stay there the whole time? Is it also the kinda place you can get a convertible, at least for a little?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 14, 2014, 01:20:04 PM
You don't need a 4x4 on the BI. I drove up Mauna Kea in a convertible without issue and got a 4x4 for part of the time because I enjoy both.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 14, 2014, 01:22:16 PM
You don't need a 4x4 on the BI. I drove up Mauna Kea in a convertible without issue and got a 4x4 for part of the time because I enjoy both.

Right. I was just reading that in the trip notes. Sorry I missed it. Ok cool I guess my decision has been made for me :-). Gonna start booking everything. Thanks guys. Good shabbos.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: runnergirl on February 14, 2014, 01:42:08 PM
what are the best flights/connections from MIA area to LIH?  All the planes look old! Want to fly on the nice B or F flights. Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on February 14, 2014, 01:42:37 PM
UA connecting in IAH
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: runnergirl on February 14, 2014, 01:58:06 PM
Looks like if you connect in EWR taking the direct flt to HNL you get BF w/flatbed seating. If I want to leave from FLL can I call UA and have them book FLL-EWR-HNL for same # of miles as FLL-HNL, in other words is the stop over permitted?

Going from IAH-LIH looks like you get BF w/reclining seat :(  Hubby's 50th B-day, want to make it nice for him!  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on February 14, 2014, 02:12:09 PM
Looks like if you connect in EWR taking the direct flt to HNL you get BF w/flatbed seating. If I want to leave from FLL can I call UA and have them book FLL-EWR-HNL for same # of miles as FLL-HNL, in other words is the stop over permitted?

Going from IAH-LIH looks like you get BF w/reclining seat :(  Hubby's 50th B-day, want to make it nice for him!  Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Stopover must be >4 hours I believe, but, yes, it's the same cost. Can be booked online as well. For a time they were flying with BF seating out of IAH, I don't know if/when they stopped
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: runnergirl on February 14, 2014, 02:24:51 PM
Thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 07:36:56 PM
I know dan says allow plenty of time to switch gates at HNL but if I am going to KOA, is an hour enough? Landing 1:54 and want to know if I should book the 2:50 or the 3:19.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2014, 07:43:40 PM
Depends on if you have to recheck your bags or not.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 07:54:04 PM
Depends on if you have to recheck your bags or not.

I assume I have to recheck if Im flying Delta to HNL and HA to KOA right?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 08:05:56 PM
I assume I have to recheck if Im flying Delta to HNL and HA to KOA right?

That was probably a stupid question. How long do i need if I have to recheck bags?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2014, 08:07:54 PM
I assume I have to recheck if Im flying Delta to HNL and HA to KOA right?
I wouldn't assume that.
Anyone else want to post their experience with DL/HA interlining?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 08:22:44 PM
I wouldn't assume that.
Anyone else want to post their experience with DL/HA interlining?

Ok I guess it wasnt a stupid question lol
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Lou Bob on February 15, 2014, 08:23:58 PM
I wouldn't assume that.
Anyone else want to post their experience with DL/HA interlining?
delta made me miss my connection to hnl and I had booked ha with ua miles. So I got ua to switch my ha flight and got delta to check it through all the way Cuz I had one hour to switch from dl to ha
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 08:44:52 PM
delta made me miss my connection to hnl and I had booked ha with ua miles. So I got ua to switch my ha flight and got delta to check it through all the way Cuz I had one hour to switch from dl to ha

Would you say thats a YMMV kinda thing and you only got them to do it because of your situation? Or did it seem like a routine thing you can do?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Lou Bob on February 15, 2014, 08:46:23 PM
Would you say thats a YMMV kinda thing and you only got them to do it because of your situation? Or did it seem like a routine thing you can do?
originally I was scheduled to stay the night in hnl and them take a morning ha flight. But if you schedule it close to the dl flight, then maybe it will help you if you ask
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 08:53:28 PM
originally I was scheduled to stay the night in hnl and them take a morning ha flight. But if you schedule it close to the dl flight, then maybe it will help you if you ask

I hear. And I guess worst case, there are so many flights to KOA, I can get on standby for the next HA flight right? Or should I be safe and book the later one and if I'm earlier then do standby for the earlier flight?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 08:53:50 PM
And I assume an hour is enough if I dont have to recheck luggage?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Lou Bob on February 15, 2014, 09:08:14 PM
And I assume an hour is enough if I dont have to recheck luggage?
was plenty of time for me.  Even got to hit up the dl lounge.
Open bar Btw  ;)

I think if u use Dan's Corp account, you get free luggage and free standby, so go with the later one maybe
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 15, 2014, 09:16:12 PM
What about LIH? Arriving on DL and doing HA to OGG. It's only one terminal, so I'd assume it's a faster process than HNL.

(We were planning on splitting between Kauai and Maui, but in the end decided to spend the whole time on Maui. Hence the nutty JFK-LAX-LIH-HNL-OGG routing.)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2014, 09:21:27 PM
Huh? Why LIH-HNL-OGG and not LIH-OGG?

Other airports need much less time than HNL.  HNL requires a shuttle or very long walk from overseas to interisland terminal.  If you interline you can take the shuttle within security.  To recheck you need to go through security again.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 15, 2014, 09:25:44 PM
Huh? Why LIH-HNL-OGG and not LIH-OGG?

Last LIH-OGG of the day is 3:22. We land at 5:42.

Huh? Why LIH-HNL-OGG and not LIH-OGG?

Other airports need much less time than HNL.  HNL requires a shuttle or very long walk from overseas to interisland terminal.  If you interline you can take the shuttle within security.  To recheck you need to go through security again.

Sounds like an hour in LIH should be enough to cover me.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 15, 2014, 09:27:04 PM
Kids or no kids?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 15, 2014, 09:28:37 PM
Kids or no kids?

Probably not.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 15, 2014, 09:28:59 PM
was plenty of time for me.  Even got to hit up the dl lounge.
Open bar Btw  ;)

I think if u use Dan's Corp account, you get free luggage and free standby, so go with the later one maybe

Got it thanks. Im booking with united miles. Corporate acct is only for paid tickets right? And Im hoping to have star gold by that time (waiting on miles to post on A3) so I should be good.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 15, 2014, 09:29:34 PM
Corporate acct is only for paid tickets right?

Correct.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 16, 2014, 04:36:51 PM
Ok so based on your recommendations, I am going to fly straight from HNL to the BI. I do want to see pearl harbor though so were thinking of flying back into HNL at 6am the day were going back to NY. Our flight is 1220. Will we have some time to do a quick tour of pearl harbor? What time should we be at the airport? Also, what would we do with our luggage? Can we check in that early for a 1220 flight? I guess we can try to ask if they would check it straight through but what if they dont? And even if they do, wed still have carry ons and you cant take any bags to pearl harbor.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 17, 2014, 07:44:34 PM
Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jaywhy on February 17, 2014, 11:49:04 PM
My experience. HA offered to interline with DL on LIH-HNL-LAX.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on February 18, 2014, 09:28:46 AM
My experience. HA offered to interline with DL on LIH-HNL-LAX.
Even if he's getting into HNL at 6am and leaving at 12pm?
Ok so based on your recommendations, I am going to fly straight from HNL to the BI. I do want to see pearl harbor though so were thinking of flying back into HNL at 6am the day were going back to NY. Our flight is 1220. Will we have some time to do a quick tour of pearl harbor? What time should we be at the airport? Also, what would we do with our luggage? Can we check in that early for a 1220 flight? I guess we can try to ask if they would check it straight through but what if they dont? And even if they do, wed still have carry ons and you cant take any bags to pearl harbor.
If you're willing to spend a few dollars, you might want to look into a baggage storage service like this (http://www.alohaairportdeliveryandstorage.com/Services.php) one.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 18, 2014, 10:41:23 AM
Even if he's getting into HNL at 6am and leaving at 12pm?If you're willing to spend a few dollars, you might want to look into a baggage storage service like this (http://www.alohaairportdeliveryandstorage.com/Services.php) one.

Thanks, I was thinking about that but, if Im gonna spend money, I may as well rent a car and just put the bags in the car no? Id save on transportation to Pearl Harbor too. I guess I should probably do that anyway. Looks like itll only be about 40 bucks.

On another note, Dan suggests to be there before 8 so as not to wait. I saw online they open at 7, is that all year round? And how long before our flight should we be back at HNL assuming we have to recheck bags?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Bosco on February 18, 2014, 10:54:11 AM
Just checked the site. It opens at 7 year round but timed programs to the memorial begin at 8.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on February 18, 2014, 06:45:33 PM
arriving on Monday afternoon in July for 9 night to HNL (with 2 kids)..was thinking about just camping out at the GHK  the entire 9 nights, as I've been there before and loved it and figured it would be a beautiful nice long vaca.

Does anyone recommend that I do the Andaz Maui  :(with my family through Shabbos and then Sun/Mon/Tue go to the GHK? I've read on FT that the rooms that are given as "suites' are far smaller then those at the GHK.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on February 19, 2014, 03:03:36 PM
Anyone? Split it into 2 or just stay in Kauai?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2014, 03:17:38 PM
You've done the GHK.
Why not do OGG and ITO?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on February 19, 2014, 06:33:43 PM
You've done the GHK.
Why not do OGG and ITO?
I have also done OGG at the HRM and wasn't so crazy about the suites. How are the standard Andaz suites?

I think I'd like to spend some at least some time at GHK and just enjoy the resort. No resorts of the sort in ITO.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2014, 06:41:07 PM
Andaz suites are very nice and service is tip top.
Not the most child friendly hotel out there but doable.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on February 19, 2014, 07:41:19 PM
Andaz suites are very nice and service is tip top.
Not the most child friendly hotel out there but doable.
Are the suites as large in the Andaz as in the GHK?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 19, 2014, 07:45:05 PM
Are the suites as large in the Andaz as in the GHK?
Not quite, though the Andaz has 2 bathrooms and a larger dining table.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Lou Bob on February 19, 2014, 08:47:08 PM
Not quite, though the Andaz has 2 bathrooms and a larger dining table.
maybe post this in that wedding night hotel thread   ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 24, 2014, 10:14:14 PM
Trying to book LIH-OGG via HNL for 5k AA. All that's coming up is one direct LIH-OGG flight, which doesn't work out time-wise.

However, searching for the LIH-HNL and HNL-OGG legs separately, AA is showing plenty of availability. Is there any way this could be booked as one 5k award?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on February 24, 2014, 10:15:27 PM
Trying to book LIH-OGG via HNL for 5k AA. All that's coming up is one direct LIH-OGG flight, which doesn't work out time-wise.

However, searching for the LIH-HNL and HNL-OGG legs separately, AA is showing plenty of availability. Is there any way this could be booked as one 5k award?
try calling
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2014, 10:39:00 PM
try calling
That'll add $25/ticket.

How much is the paid nonstop?  Don't forget to factor in 2 free bags.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 24, 2014, 10:59:58 PM
That'll add $25/ticket.

How much is the paid nonstop?  Don't forget to factor in 2 free bags.

There are no nonstops at all that'll work. The LIH-HNL-OGG ones are $137. According to my best math, using 5k AA comes out about $30 cheaper per ticket, even taking into account luggage fees, miles not earned, etc. Not to mention that I can't bear the thought of paying more for the interisland flights than the entire NY-HI flight in biz/first ;)

But don't they usually waive the $25 fee if it's not bookable online?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 24, 2014, 11:02:31 PM
AA typically won't waive.
Also when flights are that expensive the corp account gets discounts, pm/email JJ.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 24, 2014, 11:08:40 PM
AA typically won't waive.
Also when flights are that expensive the corp account gets discounts, pm/email JJ.

Interesting, I wasn't aware of that.

On the other hand I'm not going till August, so if I'm paying cash it probably makes sense to wait until it gets a bit closer.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on March 09, 2014, 06:09:07 PM
I think I'm the only one here hoping that Hawaiian won't interline my baggage :P

I just got DL to change my glitch flights (schedule changes FTW ;))from JFK-LAX-LIH to JFK-LAX-HNL-LIH. Due to our change in plans to stay on Maui the entire time, I'd want to drop the HNL-LIH segment (which is on HA) and go right to OGG. That way I'll be able to go JFK-LAX-HNL-OGG instead of my original crazy JFK-LAX-LIH-HNL-OGG routing.

Being that JFK-LAX-LIH is on one DL reservation, would HA still not interline to LIH? If they would, is there a way not to have it interlined?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mb on March 10, 2014, 10:37:02 PM
Lol. Had no problem booking 5 saver seats on several days recently.

Found saver award seats for dates i want to HNL, but only in coach.  Anyone have experience with using Plan B on EWR-HNL direct?  BF looks almost all open  on the seat map in either direction.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mb on March 10, 2014, 10:44:40 PM
Spending 10 days in Hawaii - Sunday to following Tuesday.  Am thinking Sun-Fri at St Regis on LIH and Fri-Tues on Oahu by Chabad.  Should I break up the beginning portion and do 2/3 days in both LIH and OGG instead?  Any other comments?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: danR on March 15, 2014, 11:39:35 PM
Anyone sprayed at Hilton Waikiki? Looking to stay for shabbas is it is the closest to the chabad

Anyone have any experience there? Planning on signing up for hilton card for 2 free weekend nights
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on April 02, 2014, 12:28:46 PM
So I'm finally doing a dream trip to Hawaii with the wife, so far I have reservations EWR-LIH on January 21.
Now I'm thinking of flying on the 28 or 29th LIH to KOA & then fly back to NY on the 31st motzai shabbos, I know I should stay longer on KOA but thats the max I can do for this trip.

so
Q 1) Is it worth it to fly to the Big Island considering I keep one day shabbos there or just stay in Kauai the entire trip (or maybe go to a different island instead of KOA?)
    2) Is UA the best option to fly LIH-KOA for 6K considering that AA charge 5K per leg


Lets hear the feedback!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 02, 2014, 12:37:32 PM
So I'm finally doing a dream trip to Hawaii with the wife, so far I have reservations EWR-LIH on January 21.
Now I'm thinking of flying on the 28 or 29th LIH to KOA & then fly back to NY on the 31st motzai shabbos, I know I should stay longer on KOA but thats the max I can do for this trip.

so
Q 1) Is it worth it to fly to the Big Island considering I keep one day shabbos there or just stay in Kauai the entire trip (or maybe go to a different island instead of KOA?)
    2) Is UA the best option to fly LIH-KOA for 6K considering that AA charge 5K per leg


Lets hear the feedback!

With no disrespect intended, I suggest that you read through this thread (which isn't terribly long) as there is much discussion about what to do on the Big Island, what there is to do on both sides of the island, and how much time you should spend on the Big Island.  After going through the thread, if you have any further questions, I'm sure someone will answer you. 

As to your second question, check what the redemption rate is by booking directly through Hawaiian.  You can transfer Amex points to Hawaiian.  In the past though I have found that UA sometimes required fewer miles for inter island flights.

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on April 02, 2014, 12:39:15 PM
Never been but to me I'd either
Jan 22-26 LIH
Jan 27-31 OGG

or Jan 22-27 LIH
Jan 28-31 KOA
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on April 02, 2014, 12:46:21 PM
We were on the BI for less than two days (not counting 2 days shabbos). It was enough to see the volcano and one or two other things, but it left us wanting for more. Mauna Kea, the Saddle, everything around Hilo, Waipio Valley, Kamehameha Bay, etc. Not to mention the north end...

Also AFAIK AA charges 5k even with a stop in HNL.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on April 02, 2014, 01:13:06 PM
With no disrespect intended, I suggest that you read through this thread (which isn't terribly long) as there is much discussion about what to do on the Big Island, what there is to do on both sides of the island, and how much time you should spend on the Big Island.  After going through the thread, if you have any further questions, I'm sure someone will answer you. 

As to your second question, check what the redemption rate is by booking directly through Hawaiian.  You can transfer Amex points to Hawaiian.  In the past though I have found that UA sometimes required fewer miles for inter island flights.
Lol, 50+ pages in desktop mode is not terribly long? Doesn't necessarily change your point, but I think that's a bit of a stretch.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on April 02, 2014, 01:24:29 PM
Lol, 50+ pages in desktop mode is not terribly long? Doesn't necessarily change your point, but I think that's a bit of a stretch.

I think he meant the dedicated BI thread, it's much shorter.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1646.0
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on April 02, 2014, 01:45:17 PM
I think he meant the dedicated BI thread, it's much shorter.

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1646.0
A very good suggestion, though clearly not what he actually wrote.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: shmebeble on April 02, 2014, 01:49:01 PM
We were on the BI for less than two days (not counting 2 days shabbos). It was enough to see the volcano and one or two other things, but it left us wanting for more. Mauna Kea, the Saddle, everything around Hilo, Waipio Valley, Kamehameha Bay, etc. Not to mention the north end...

Also AFAIK AA charges 5k even with a stop in HNL.

It is a must. We kayaked out there and some spinner dolphins put on a show around our kayaks. They were within hands reach- something that I will never be able to forget.
You cannot pass it up
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 02, 2014, 01:54:49 PM
Yes, sorry wasn't clear.  I meant that you should read the dedicated Big Island thread.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on April 02, 2014, 08:54:57 PM
With no disrespect intended, I suggest that you read through this thread (which isn't terribly long) as there is much discussion about what to do on the Big Island, what there is to do on both sides of the island, and how much time you should spend on the Big Island.  After going through the thread, if you have any further questions, I'm sure someone will answer you.

Indeed I had already looked through the thread before asking, I still wanted to hear people's opinion.

Basically what I'm thinking is that after doing LIH, if I want to see a different island OGG sounds similar to LIH in different ways of course, the most unique island sounds like KOA, I'd rather go there for 3 days and be like 'wow I gotta come back here' rather than not seeing it at all
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 02, 2014, 08:57:59 PM
There is enough to keep you busy on the Big Island for 2 weeks.  I have been there 5x and still haven't been able to do everything I wanted to.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on April 02, 2014, 09:00:54 PM
Also AFAIK AA charges 5k even with a stop in HNL.
Nada,
AA website & on phone clearly told me its 5K per segment inter island, so given that Hawaiian airlines charges 7.5K I'm best off with UA for 6K
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on April 02, 2014, 09:02:20 PM
There is enough to keep you busy on the Big Island for 2 weeks.  I have been there 5x and still haven't been able to do everything I wanted to.
So you wouldn't recommend me to go for three days?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 02, 2014, 09:09:14 PM
So you wouldn't recommend me to go for three days?

Didn't say that.  If you go for 3 days, you'll still have an opportunity to do lots of great stuff.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: tuvz on April 05, 2014, 06:36:50 AM
have 20 days in Hawaii,
8 in HNL and the rest in Maui is good way of dividing the trip?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2014, 08:59:29 PM
8 in HNL
Why??
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: chucksterace on April 05, 2014, 10:07:13 PM

Why??

I believe that is the question he is asking
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on April 05, 2014, 10:09:20 PM
have 20 days in Hawaii,
8 in HNL and the rest in Maui is good way of dividing the trip?
Wow! Firstly very jealous.

Secondly, why so much time in HNL? Why not shave off a few days from there and take a few more off your Maui trip and thrown in a trip to Kauai? In 20 days you can also fit in the Big Island comfortably if you'd like...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 05, 2014, 11:50:29 PM
20 days split between LIH, OGG, and KOA is a dream.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: tuvz on April 07, 2014, 12:58:06 AM
okay thanks for that
If I am going to visit the other islands am I best off using united for interisland flights?
I am flying in and out of HNL
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on April 07, 2014, 08:49:21 AM
okay thanks for that
If I am going to visit the other islands am I best off using united for interisland flights?
I am flying in and out of HNL
You can get cheap mileage tix using UA or AA mileage.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jd399 on April 07, 2014, 10:10:01 AM
Is walmart on the islands for cereal and bread more expensive than NY? do u guys recommend buying all that before hand?
Thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on April 07, 2014, 11:46:30 AM
Is walmart on the islands for cereal and bread more expensive than NY? do u guys recommend buying all that before hand?
Thanks
IIRC it's more expensive. I guess its a matter of preference... I personally was already schlepping so much meat and "dinner food" that I preferred buying the cereal/pasta there...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 07, 2014, 02:12:05 PM
Is walmart on the islands for cereal and bread more expensive than NY? do u guys recommend buying all that before hand?
Thanks

ALL food, with some very limited exceptions, is more expensive in Hawaii than on the mainland.  There definitely is a sticker shock factor when you see it.  The locals call it "the price of paradise."  That being said, once you are getting free flights and hotels, don't kvetch about the cost of food. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: tuvz on April 10, 2014, 12:43:02 AM
20 days split between LIH, OGG, and KOA is a dream.

going to be doing 6 in HNL, 7 in OGG and 7 in LIH in the end iyh
now have an excuse to go back and visit the big island ;D

reading your last couple of TR's, andaz in maui and GH in kauai is the way to go?
i have diamond status and will hopefully use the suite upgrades for both stays
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on April 10, 2014, 01:24:19 AM
going to be doing 6 in HNL, 7 in OGG and 7 in LIH in the end iyh

What made you decide on 6 days in HNL over 6 days in KOA? The BI is far more interesting and unique (to say the least) than HNL.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: tuvz on April 10, 2014, 02:43:16 AM
What made you decide on 6 days in HNL over 6 days in KOA? The BI is far more interesting and unique (to say the least) than HNL.

its easier flight wise
i land in and leave from HNL, so one UA return flight gets me to 2 other islands
as a first timer im happy to check it out
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on April 10, 2014, 09:23:40 AM

its easier flight wise
i land in and leave from HNL, so one UA return flight gets me to 2 other islands
as a first timer im happy to check it out
interesting choice, let us know how it goes, I'm flying there in jan for 10 days, 6 in LIH - 3 in KOA
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on April 10, 2014, 11:51:27 AM
going to be doing 6 in HNL, 7 in OGG and 7 in LIH in the end iyh
now have an excuse to go back and visit the big island ;D

reading your last couple of TR's, andaz in maui and GH in kauai is the way to go?
i have diamond status and will hopefully use the suite upgrades for both stays
When are you going? TR Please!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: danR on April 12, 2014, 10:36:48 PM
I am flying Sunday June 22 to HNL and leaving July 2 from HNL, from delta mistake 150 first class from nyc. I was planning on staying in HNL Sunday to Sunday and then going to another island. I wanted to stay for  shabbas where they have minyan so figured I would stay there  for week. Anyone one have suggestions on how I should breakout trip.?

Thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: jd399 on April 16, 2014, 11:53:53 PM
whats the deal with flying to hawaii and back during sefira?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on April 16, 2014, 11:54:51 PM
whats the deal with flying to hawaii and back during sefira?

AYLOR
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dansdealsfan5 on April 18, 2014, 03:15:42 PM
Is there any way to get free baggage on hawaiin (im using aa miles - will my one world sapphire status help?)?

Also, I'm only finding ogg-hnl-nyc for my return. If ogg-lax-nyc opens up would i be able to switch and get back the 5k?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on April 18, 2014, 03:46:27 PM
Is there any way to get free baggage on hawaiin (im using aa miles - will my one world sapphire status help?)?
Not sure about the status  but I know if you buy the tix using Dans Corp account you can get a free bag (or free bags?).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on April 18, 2014, 03:48:19 PM
Not sure about the status  but I know if you buy the tix using Dans Corp account you can get a free bag (or free bags?).

2 bags, but he's using AA miles so that didn't apply to him.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on April 20, 2014, 09:36:51 AM
2 bags, but he's using AA miles so that didn't apply to him.
Yes I saw that. Still it might be worth it to buy the tix depending on how many bags he has and of course ticket prices...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on April 20, 2014, 12:33:41 PM
Assuming my luggage gets forwarded automatically, if I land in HNL at 3:37pm is it possible to catch a flight to OGG at 3:59pm?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 20, 2014, 12:42:59 PM
No.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mochada on April 20, 2014, 03:48:50 PM
Assuming my luggage gets forwarded automatically, if I land in HNL at 3:37pm is it possible to catch a flight to OGG at 3:59pm?

Give yourself about an hour
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: arid on April 24, 2014, 02:41:53 PM
Hi i need a response from some of the veterans, maybe even the great reb dan.......
2 summers ago, my wife and i went on an unbelievable (first class, free hotels, car upgrades etc) 2 week trip to Maui and TBI. We went on every amazing hike, saw every sight etc. 90% of it we could not have done if we had our gorgeous 2 y/o daughter with us.
Now we have a 3.5 y/o and a 6 month old and are trying to decide weather we should take the kids with us on our Delta glitch price flight to HNL from JFK. We only got business class to LAX and from SLC.
To bring the kids or not.....
The chakira is azoi: if taking the kids will prevent us from doing hikes, climbing, scuba etc then what is the real difference between HNL and, say a place like Key West or Cancun? If the difference is very small, then I have little interest flying halfway around the world to a place with limited kosher options with 2 kids if i can get the same experience in Florida.
If there is still a number of once in a lifetime experiences/sights (mauna kea, waipio falls, road to hana etc) we can see with 2 little kids in HNL then we would do it.......

To conclude (sorry, brevity is not a strong point with me): what CAN you do with 2 kids in HNL that cant be done in any other nice beach town.....

Thanks in advance
Title: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: rediplus on April 28, 2014, 04:43:47 PM
Hi all,

10th anniversary in November. only 250K UR Points , 100K Southwest, 80K SPG. Looking to take the wife to Hawaii. Not Comfortable staying for Shabbos and 5 kids at home so cant stay away so long anyway. So the first idea I had was to get to HI on a Sunday and leave on Friday to LA or SF for Shabbos.
How would you recommend the following :
1. We only have 5 days and we will probably never do this again so which Island and what to do in only 5 days.
2. booking flights , First Class if possible from EWR to any Island
3. Hotels

thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on April 28, 2014, 05:46:40 PM
Hi all,

10th anniversary in November. only 250K UR Points , 100K Southwest, 80K SPG. Looking to take the wife to Hawaii. Not Comfortable staying for Shabbos and 5 kids at home so cant stay away so long anyway. So the first idea I had was to get to HI on a Sunday and leave on Friday to LA or SF for Shabbos.
How would you recommend the following :
1. We only have 5 days and we will probably never do this again so which Island and what to do in only 5 days.
2. booking flights , First Class if possible from EWR to any Island
3. Hotels

thanks in advance...

1.  Your topic heading is Big Island.  If this is the island you are interested in, what to do has been discussed at length in the Big Island thread.  It is not a terribly long thread and it would do you good to read it in its entirety.

2. Korean Air has the cheapest redemption rate to Hawaii (booked on United) and you can transfer UR points to Korean.  United currently charges 180k for a round trip first class ticket to Hawaii.  They fly directly from Newark to Honolulu. 

3. If you do decide to go to the Big Island, the Sheraton Kona is about 10k Starwood points per night plus the approximate $30.00 resort fee. 
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: Something Fishy on April 28, 2014, 06:10:04 PM
We only have 5 days and we will probably never do this again

Not gonna happen. Come to Hawaii once and you'll be hooked for life. You WILL be back, mark my words :D.
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: kangarruu on April 28, 2014, 06:24:43 PM
  United currently charges 180k for a round trip first class ticket to Hawaii.  They fly directly from Newark to Honolulu.   

Isn't the nonstop service business only at 40k each way? That's what we're paying (except that NYC-HNL is a "free" oneway that cost us 15k).
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: njmacman on April 28, 2014, 06:35:46 PM
I did 90,000 points American for 2 round trip JFK to HNL for this summer.
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on April 28, 2014, 06:46:19 PM
Isn't the nonstop service business only at 40k each way? That's what we're paying (except that NYC-HNL is a "free" oneway that cost us 15k).

Guess you haven't been reading news lately.  United devalued their points.  First off, it was never really 40k first each way booked directly on United unless you miraculously found a saver First Class rate.  And even if you did manage to find a saver First, good luck on getting 2 tickets at the saver rate. 

Otherwise, each way used to be 80k in First but when they devalued the points they raised it to 90k each way in First.

And just to be clear, I am talking about the lay flat seats from EWR to HNL.  As far as I know, United is the only carrier that offers fully lay flat seats to Hawaii from the NYC area.
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: Ergel on April 28, 2014, 07:13:31 PM
To say that it costs 90k each way is misleading. No one (I guess with the exception of you) books standard awards
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: kangarruu on April 28, 2014, 07:25:04 PM
Guess you haven't been reading news lately.  United devalued their points.  First off, it was never really 40k first each way booked directly on United unless you miraculously found a saver First Class rate.  And even if you did manage to find a saver First, good luck on getting 2 tickets at the saver rate. 

Otherwise, each way used to be 80k in First but when they devalued the points they raised it to 90k each way in First.

And just to be clear, I am talking about the lay flat seats from EWR to HNL.  As far as I know, United is the only carrier that offers fully lay flat seats to Hawaii from the NYC area.

United didn't change the mainland to Hawaii saver prices when they devalued. The layflat seats on the EWR-HNL route are still 40k each way in saver business (there's no first class on the 767-400ER).

As for availability, all things are possible through Dan. Thanks to Plan B, I've got 3/4 flights in saver business, and I'm pretty confident that the last one will work out too.
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2014, 08:07:11 PM
Huh? I went with 5 saver seats between HNL and  IAH and EWR in J/F.
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on April 28, 2014, 08:19:03 PM
Huh? I went with 5 saver seats between HNL and  IAH and EWR in J/F.

I was never able to find saver First when I needed it for more than 1 ticket.
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: PBaruch on April 28, 2014, 08:32:16 PM
To say that it costs 90k each way is misleading. No one (I guess with the exception of you) books standard awards

I book what I need when I need.  If its a standard award, I don't give a hoot.  I have limited time and I want to travel when its convenient for me.  If that means blowing miles/points for a standard award, no big deal for me.  It's easier for me to accumulate miles/points than to use them.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2014, 08:35:42 PM
I was never able to find saver First when I needed it for more than 1 ticket.
Then you're not looking properly.
I was juggling more ticket options than I knew what to do with.  Had 20 different date options to play with.
Title: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: skyguy918 on April 28, 2014, 08:36:44 PM
Hi all,

10th anniversary in November. only 250K UR Points , 100K Southwest, 80K SPG. Looking to take the wife to Hawaii. Not Comfortable staying for Shabbos and 5 kids at home so cant stay away so long anyway. So the first idea I had was to get to HI on a Sunday and leave on Friday to LA or SF for Shabbos.
How would you recommend the following :
1. We only have 5 days and we will probably never do this again so which Island and what to do in only 5 days.
2. booking flights , First Class if possible from EWR to any Island
3. Hotels

thanks in advance...
If you're not comfortable staying for Shabbos because of the halachic question of which day is Shabbos, then you'd have to do Sunday to Thursday, not Friday.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 28, 2014, 08:37:14 PM
Then you're not looking properly.
I was juggling more ticket options than I knew what to do with.  Had 20 different date options to play with.

How does one look properly?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on April 28, 2014, 08:42:36 PM
Been to a DDS?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 28, 2014, 08:43:31 PM
Been to a DDS?

Yes.
Title: Re: Re: Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
Post by: tuvz on April 29, 2014, 05:23:18 PM
I was never able to find saver First when I needed it for more than 1 ticket.

just booked two saver tickets HNL-EWR last thursday
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: bones on April 30, 2014, 08:47:22 AM
HI. I am new to using  and manipulating my points and wanted to know if someone better at it can help me.
I would like to go to hawaii from new york in the summer(august 12th-august 24th) I have 30000 starwood points, 1050000 ultimate reward points, 400000 delta points and have just signed up for 2 credit cards that should get me 1000000 american points and 50000 more ultimate reward points.
can someone suggest for the best way to do this/maximize my points.
thank you for your help!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on April 30, 2014, 09:50:40 AM
HI. I am new to using  and manipulating my points and wanted to know if someone better at it can help me.
I would like to go to hawaii from new york in the summer(august 12th-august 24th) I have 30000 starwood points, 1050000 ultimate reward points, 400000 delta points and have just signed up for 2 credit cards that should get me 1000000 american points and 50000 more ultimate reward points.
can someone suggest for the best way to do this/maximize my points.
thank you for your help!

Can you hook me up with the million point card?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: daganster on April 30, 2014, 10:39:25 AM
Is there any way to get free baggage on hawaiin (im using aa miles - will my one world sapphire status help?)?

Also, I'm only finding ogg-hnl-nyc for my return. If ogg-lax-nyc opens up would i be able to switch and get back the 5k?
Officially with the new HA CC you can receive a free bag if you purchased the ticket with that card, so I don't know if that would help you unless someone has gotten waived baggage without purchasing the ticket with their card.

You can reroute with AA as long as you don't change your departure city and destination, but if you wish to redeposit miles you need need to pay $150.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: bones on April 30, 2014, 12:02:29 PM
HI. Somehow a 0 got added to most of my numbers in the previous post- sorry

 I am new to using  and manipulating my points and wanted to know if someone better at it can help me.
I would like to go to hawaii from new york in the summer(august 12th-august 24th) I have 30000 starwood points, 105000 ultimate reward points, 40000 delta points and have just signed up for 2 credit cards that should get me 100000 american points and 50000 more ultimate reward points.
can someone suggest for the best way to do this/maximize my points.
thank you for your help!

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on April 30, 2014, 12:07:06 PM
HI. Somehow a 0 got added to most of my numbers in the previous post- sorry

 I am new to using  and manipulating my points and wanted to know if someone better at it can help me.
I would like to go to hawaii from new york in the summer(august 12th-august 24th) I have 30000 starwood points, 105000 ultimate reward points, 40000 delta points and have just signed up for 2 credit cards that should get me 100000 american points and 50000 more ultimate reward points.
can someone suggest for the best way to do this/maximize my points.
thank you for your help!

How many people do you need tickets for?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: bones on April 30, 2014, 12:10:34 PM
How many people do you need tickets for?

I need for myself and my wife. thanks very much!!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: rediplus on April 30, 2014, 03:07:57 PM
Hi all,

10th anniversary in November. only 250K UR Points , 100K Southwest, 80K SPG. Looking to take the wife to Hawaii. Not Comfortable staying for Shabbos and 5 kids at home so cant stay away so long anyway. So the first idea I had was to get to HI on a Sunday and leave on Thursday to LA or SF for Shabbos.
How would you recommend the following :
1. We only have 5 days and we will probably never do this again so which Island and what to do in only 5 days.
2. booking flights , First Class if possible from EWR to any Island
3. Hotels

thanks in advance...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: askmoses on April 30, 2014, 03:19:20 PM
Hi all,

10th anniversary in November. only 250K UR Points , 100K Southwest, 80K SPG. Looking to take the wife to Hawaii. Not Comfortable staying for Shabbos and 5 kids at home so cant stay away so long anyway. So the first idea I had was to get to HI on a Sunday and leave on Thursday to LA or SF for Shabbos.
How would you recommend the following :
1. We only have 5 days and we will probably never do this again so which Island and what to do in only 5 days.
2. booking flights , First Class if possible from EWR to any Island
3. Hotels

thanks in advance...
First I'd say decide on the Island. Then work the details in.
With five days and you saying you "will probably never do this again", I suggest narrowing it down to either Maui or Kauai.

I'd say Maui has more activities. Kauai is greener and maybe more beautiful (Maui is still stunning, especially if you are willing to get out and do some hikes, Road to Hana, etc). I don't think you make a mistake going to either of those two.

Pick one island and once you decide on it. I would certainly suggest reading the wikis located below and clicking on the links found within.
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=4.0
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1643.0
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on April 30, 2014, 09:01:34 PM
HI. I am new to using  and manipulating my points and wanted to know if someone better at it can help me.
I would like to go to hawaii from new york in the summer(august 12th-august 24th) I have 30000 starwood points, 1050000 ultimate reward points, 400000 delta points and have just signed up for 2 credit cards that should get me 1000000 american points and 50000 more ultimate reward points.
can someone suggest for the best way to do this/maximize my points.
thank you for your help!
How many extra 0's did you mistakenly throw in ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on May 04, 2014, 07:43:20 PM
Just wondering, I'm planning on flying LIH to KOA/ITO with a stop in HNL,
What's the minimum connection time needed & do they check luggage straight through
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on May 04, 2014, 09:55:40 PM
Just wondering, I'm planning on flying LIH to KOA/ITO with a stop in HNL,
What's the minimum connection time needed & do they check luggage straight through

1) http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/documents/farerules/minimum-connection-times.html

2) Yes.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on May 04, 2014, 11:10:12 PM
1) http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/documents/farerules/minimum-connection-times.html

2) Yes.
Perfect, thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on May 05, 2014, 09:04:33 PM
For a return flight wife + 2 toddlers  from LIH, which one is the better choice? (in J)

All flights are Delta (excluding inter-island)
LIH-HNL (early enough to make the connection)
HNL-ATL 3:36p-6:20a
ATL-JFK 7:45a-10:37a   

Or

LIH-HNL (early enough to make the connection)
HNL-LAX 12:04p-8:41p
LAX-JFK 9:30p-6:00a

Or

LIH-LAX 10:20p-6:42a
LAX-JFK  9:10a-5:48p
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on May 05, 2014, 09:10:03 PM
For a return flight wife + 2 toddlers  from LIH, which one is the better choice? (in J)

All flights are Delta (excluding inter-island)
LIH-HNL (early enough to make the connection)
HNL-ATL 3:36p-6:20a
ATL-JFK 7:45a-10:37a   

Or

LIH-HNL (early enough to make the connection)
HNL-LAX 12:04p-8:41p
LAX-JFK 9:30p-6:00a

Or

LIH-LAX 10:20p-6:42a
LAX-JFK  9:10a-5:48p

Personally I would do the third option:
-most direct
-most time in HI (you actually get a full day)
-depending on the date, LAX-JFK may be on the 767, which is far nicer in J than the 757.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on May 05, 2014, 09:14:00 PM
Personally I would do the third option:
-most direct
-most time in HI (you actually get a full day)
-depending on the date, LAX-JFK may be on the 767, which is far nicer in J than the 757.
True but I will already have been on Kauai for 9 nights at that point and would probably be ready to leave. In addition I'm concerned that the kids will be all slept out by the time we arrive which would = a night of hell.

Your thoughts?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on May 05, 2014, 09:18:32 PM
True but I will already have been on Kauai for 9 nights at that point and would probably be ready to leave.

I'm not worried about that being a problem. You could be there a month and not get bored :D


In addition I'm concerned that the kids will be all slept out by the time we arrive which would = a night of hell.

Do they have their own seats?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on May 05, 2014, 09:20:33 PM
I'm not worried about that being a problem. You could be there a month and not get bored :D
Hmmm. Maybe your right.
Do they have their own seats?
Yes
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on May 05, 2014, 09:25:01 PM
Hmmm. Maybe your right.

Yes

Hmmm... Good point then regarding the kids. I would check what planes are being used, if it's the 767  I'd probably go with option 2, otherwise option 1 since at least you get a few more hours in HI.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on May 05, 2014, 09:42:39 PM
Hmmm... Good point then regarding the kids. I would check what planes are being used, if it's the 767  I'd probably go with option 2, otherwise option 1 since at least you get a few more hours in HI.
ok thanks a lot for your help.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2014, 04:32:25 PM
This is just comical https://www.facebook.com/groups/dansdeals/permalink/10152396114336041/
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on May 16, 2014, 04:38:40 PM
This is just comical https://www.facebook.com/groups/dansdeals/permalink/10152396114336041/
Do they even know who they're talking to ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MC on May 16, 2014, 04:38:56 PM
The Facebook posts have gotten more ridiculous by the day. I don't know how you have the patience you do for them!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2014, 04:46:19 PM
The Facebook posts have gotten more ridiculous by the day. I don't know how you have the patience you do for them!
Seriously considering shutting the group down.  It's a time-suck for me and little good info is posted there.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2014, 04:47:13 PM
Do they even know who they're talking to ?
Half of them don't even know what dansdeals.com is.  The FB group is the whole thing and they ask where the deals are.
It's unreal.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MC on May 16, 2014, 04:50:55 PM

Seriously considering shutting the group down.  It's a time-suck for me and little good info is posted there.
Don't shut it down, then they might all end up on here! :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on May 16, 2014, 04:51:15 PM
alol.
But they won't get past the challenge question to signup.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on May 16, 2014, 04:51:53 PM
Half of them don't even know what dansdeals.com is.  The FB group is the whole thing and they ask where the deals are.
It's unreal.
I didn't know that there were still people who didn't know what dansdeals is.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on May 16, 2014, 04:53:55 PM
alol.
But they won't get past the challenge question to signup.
They will post it on Facebook. Lol
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: danR on June 02, 2014, 12:36:06 PM
I have 3 days in Hawaii which island should I go to traveling with 6 year old girl?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on June 02, 2014, 12:40:10 PM
Has anyone had experience traveling with an infant on Hawaiian first class?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: danR on June 03, 2014, 04:41:51 PM
I have 3 days in Hawaii which island should I go to traveling with 6 year old girl?
BUMP
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: YankyDoodle on June 06, 2014, 09:21:39 AM
I have 3 days in Hawaii which island should I go to traveling with 6 year old girl?
No one replied because that's not enough information! Do you guys want to see waterfalls and go snorkeling or do you want to go the beach most of the time? Do you want some kosher food/more tourist attractions or do you like natural hiking type trips? Going with a kid does not preclude you from going to any of the major islands specifically.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on June 10, 2014, 12:32:31 AM
How is a 1.5 hr layover in HNL connecting from an Island Air LIH-HNL over to Delta HNL-LAX?
Folks on FT seem a bit conservative and recommend at least 2 hrs with some saying even more. 1.5 should be enough correct?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on June 10, 2014, 12:34:26 AM
It's fine, just don't dawdle.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Mocha on June 10, 2014, 12:37:32 AM
It's fine, just don't dawdle.
Thanks. Wasn't planning on it  :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on June 18, 2014, 11:56:29 PM
I'm trying to figure out footwear. On our last trip, our regular Nike sneakers were good for basic hiking. On the beach, however, it was a disaster - soaking wet, full of sand, etc.

I'm looking for something that would work for hiking, as well as in and around the water (not just the beach, but in places like waterfall pools on the Road to Hana). Ideally it should be able to also be worn while snorkeling in an open-back flipper. We will also be doing more serious hikes this time, as we're leaving the baby behind.

It seems that tabis would be our best bet, but I can't find clear info anywhere online how they fare on beaches (sand-wise), and if they could be worn in the ocean with flippers. Anyone have personal experience? Could I stay in them all day, from car to hike to waterfalls to ocean?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Buruch on June 19, 2014, 03:37:08 PM
You can't wear them with flippers. You can wear them anywhere else. But they will get wet, and so will your feet, so you probably will want to take them off at some point to let your feet dry. Also, don't wear socks under the tabis if you get them wet.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on June 27, 2014, 06:39:48 PM
60K SQ miles for UA lie-flat J: IAD-HNL 07/08 (I5) - 07/15 (I9)
Who's up for some Kalalau or Volcano hikes?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on June 28, 2014, 11:40:50 PM
60K SQ miles for UA lie-flat J: IAD-HNL 07/08 (I5) - 07/15 (I9)
Who's up for some Kalalau or Volcano hikes?

If I weren't blowing my stash of miles on my August trip, I'd totally be up for a quick (2-day) PhotoDO Hawaii edition :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on June 29, 2014, 12:00:13 AM
If I weren't blowing my stash of miles on my August trip, I'd totally be up for a quick (2-day) PhotoDO Hawaii edition :P
You won't even have 60k left over ? Must be a massive trip you're taking. Here's hoping to see some pics.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on June 29, 2014, 12:02:53 AM
You won't even have 60k left over ? Must be a massive trip you're taking.

Not really, but I earn and burn.

Here's hoping to see some pics.

Dontcha worry about that ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on June 29, 2014, 12:48:40 AM
60K SQ miles for UA lie-flat J: IAD-HNL 07/08 (I5) - 07/15 (I9)
Who's up for some Kalalau or Volcano hikes?

If only I could get that deal on the dates I wanted.  Wish I could join but gotta work...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: chamdena on July 06, 2014, 05:16:34 AM
60K SQ miles for UA lie-flat J: IAD-HNL 07/08 (I5) - 07/15 (I9)
Who's up for some Kalalau or Volcano hikes?
Dan, at the Brooklyn seminar one of your trivia q was about the best award value for flying to Hawaii... Can you please refresh my memory? I.e  if id like to take a trip there which miles/points should i be after to fly there in biz or first class?
Thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on July 06, 2014, 10:39:07 AM
Is there a person or service that will obtain Pearl Harbor tickets on your behalf if you can't be there early?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Cbs on July 06, 2014, 10:43:30 AM
Dan, at the Brooklyn seminar one of your trivia q was about the best award value for flying to Hawaii... Can you please refresh my memory? I.e  if id like to take a trip there which miles/points should i be after to fly there in biz or first class?
Thanks
read this and youll have your answer. http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/22142

Is there a person or service that will obtain Pearl Harbor tickets on your behalf if you can't be there early?
Possibly, as they dont have names
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on July 07, 2014, 05:56:10 PM
Apparently it is now possible to reserve Pearl Harbor tickets online, up to 6 months in advance, for a convenience fee of 1.50 per ticket.  Unfortunately, this has led to hoarding by various tour companies who now book large blocks of tickets this way. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 21, 2014, 09:03:17 PM
Being sick and tired of renting leaking masks and too-small fins, not to mention the cost of renting yet again every time we go somewhere warm, I decided to finally go to a local dive shop and by a solid snorkeling set for my wife and I.

Looking up shops online I kept on coming across Leisure Pro in Manhattan (owned by Adorama) as the highest recommended. After spending two hours there yesterday I gotta say I'm impressed. We both got a professional fitting and top of the line gear, and as it turns out, far better prices than Amazon. I think it's a no-brainer for anyone who snorkels often, or someone with sizing or mustache problems.

I haven't tested it underwater yet, but the mask I got holds a perfect suction over my mustache even without any Vaseline, plus it was $15 cheaper than Amazon.

The only fins that fit my boat-sized feet were the $180 Scubapro Twin Jets. Turns out the packaging was mashed up and the fins dusty (not too many people have size 16 to 21-sized feet), so he gave it to me for $50 (it was in perfect condition otherwise).

In short - go to a professional dive shop and get a proper fitting - it's worth it. We saved over $230 in total over Amazon, plus we were able to try on everything and make sure it's perfect.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 21, 2014, 11:18:30 PM
How can it have suction over a mustache?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 22, 2014, 12:04:31 AM
How can it have suction over a mustache?

It's a combination of very fine and thin silicon and a very specific skirt shape (the part inderneath the nose is shorter than most, plus it's bent in a way that contours perfectly to my face).

I actually just tried it underwater and lo and behold it kept a perfect seal, mustache and all :D.

The model is the Tusa Powerview M-24.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2014, 12:06:56 AM
Wow, awesome!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 22, 2014, 12:15:53 AM
While we're on the subject, whether you're renting or buying make sure to get what's called a dry snorkel. Many places in Hawaii (Snorkel Bob's for example) will rent out semi-dry ones, which admit some water and require manual clearing if it gets submerged. The one's I just bought are dry, which means that a valve shuts automatically in case it gets submerged and no water whatsoever gets in.

The difference is astounding. It's a bit disconcerting the first couple of times it happens, as you're trying to inhale but there's no air coming through. But considering the alternative is a mouthful of saltwater, it's a really fantastic feature.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on July 22, 2014, 09:48:50 AM
What do people with glasses do when snorkeling? Or should I say, what's the best option? I can't imagine it's worth it getting contacts for the first time just for this, so...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 22, 2014, 09:54:00 AM
What do people with glasses do when snorkeling? Or should I say, what's the best option? I can't imagine it's worth it getting contacts for the first time just for this, so...

Objects in water appear 34% closer and 25% larger than they really are, so if your prescription is not too high you may not need anything (this works for me personally). Otherwise you could get prescription lenses for most masks, they run around $30 or so IIRC. Some rental shops also rent prescription masks.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on July 22, 2014, 10:07:12 AM
Objects in water appear 34% closer and 25% larger than they really are, so if your prescription is not too high you may not need anything (this works for me personally). Otherwise you could get prescription lenses for most masks, they run around $30 or so IIRC. Some rental shops also rent prescription masks.
Unfortunately, I'm well beyond the water effect making up for my prescription  ;D

I'm not sure I would spend money on this beforehand, as I've never snorkeled in my life and I don't know how much I'll like it or whether I'll want to spend significant time doing it. I'll be at the Kea Lani, so I figured I'd try it out with the 1-hour free rental they have there, and if I'm comfortable doing so, then I'd book a snorkeling tour of some sort. But that would mean using their (most likely) non-prescription mask.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 22, 2014, 10:11:30 AM
Check the book, he mentions a couple of places that have rx masks.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on July 22, 2014, 10:45:38 AM
Get a free sample of contacts from an optometrist?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on July 22, 2014, 10:52:00 AM
Objects in water appear 34% closer and 25% larger than they really are, so if your prescription is not too high you may not need anything (this works for me personally). Otherwise you could get prescription lenses for most masks, they run around $30 or so IIRC. Some rental shops also rent prescription masks.
Approx what number do you have on your prescription?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 22, 2014, 11:49:29 AM
Approx what number do you have on your prescription?

I think something like 1.5 -1.75, nothing too major.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on July 22, 2014, 12:28:06 PM
Check the book, he mentions a couple of places that have rx masks.
Thanks.
Get a free sample of contacts from an optometrist?
Not a bad idea, if only as a backup.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on July 22, 2014, 12:30:19 PM
Not so simple just to start trying contacts. It'll take you 1/2 hour to get them in the first time. And you won't necessarily acclimate to them well...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mokellman on July 22, 2014, 11:17:50 PM
Flying Delta first class from JFK-LAX and economy LAX-HNL and HNL - LIH

Delta claims that I will get 2 free checked bags up to 70lbs.
But nobody at Delta seems to be able to answer the following question.
If I am sending my luggage from JFK straight to LIH,  will I get free checked bags on my last leg (HNL-LIH with a different airline). And vice versa I am starting my first leg in economy with a different airline and ending off first class with Delta, will I get free checked bags all the way through.
Thanks
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 22, 2014, 11:22:39 PM
Flying Delta first class from JFK-LAX and economy LAX-HNL and HNL - LIH

Delta claims that I will get 2 free checked bags up to 70lbs.
But nobody at Delta seems to be able to answer the following question.
If I am sending my luggage from JFK straight to LIH,  will I get free checked bags on my last leg (HNL-LIH with a different airline). And vice versa I am starting my first leg in economy with a different airline and ending off first class with Delta, will I get free checked bags all the way through.
Thanks

It always goes according to the first flight. If your bags are checked all the way to LIH, you'll get them for free. On the way back you'll have to pay for luggage since your first leg is in economy.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: arid on July 23, 2014, 12:06:07 AM
It always goes according to the first flight. If your bags are checked all the way to LIH, you'll get them for free. On the way back you'll have to pay for luggage since your first leg is in economy.
thank you!
does that include an inter-island flight that was booked on a completely separate site and separate itinerary?
has anyone done this personally? me and mo are in the same boat but cant get anyone in delta to give definitive answer or even to put in writing...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 23, 2014, 12:18:12 AM
thank you!
does that include an inter-island flight that was booked on a completely separate site and separate itinerary?
has anyone done this personally? me and mo are in the same boat but cant get anyone in delta to give definitive answer or even to put in writing...

Print out both itineraries and ask the check-in agent at the airport to check your bags to your final destination. Should not be a problem.

ETA: Officially Hawaiian doesn't interline baggage anymore, but IIUC if it comes tagged to the final destination they'll send it on.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Buruch on July 23, 2014, 02:06:12 AM
Snorkel Bob rents them for like 2 dollars extra. I'm -8 and it works great! They have multiples of every prescription.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on July 23, 2014, 09:53:17 AM

thank you!
does that include an inter-island flight that was booked on a completely separate site and separate itinerary?
has anyone done this personally? me and mo are in the same boat but cant get anyone in delta to give definitive answer or even to put in writing...

Just did it this month.  Delta transferring to Hawaiian for the HNL-OGG leg and Hawaiian from LIH-HNL an then transferring to Delta back to JFK.

Hawaiian flights were booked separately and I just gave the agent both itineraries an they did it without a problem. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: arid on July 23, 2014, 10:54:49 AM
Just did it this month.  Delta transferring to Hawaiian for the HNL-OGG leg and Hawaiian from LIH-HNL an then transferring to Delta back to JFK.

Hawaiian flights were booked separately and I just gave the agent both itineraries an they did it without a problem.
perfect! thank you!
does anyone know if the same applies for island air?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: arid on July 23, 2014, 10:56:08 AM
Does anyone know typical response time from JJ@dansdeals.com for inter-island flights? i emailed him almost a week ago w/ no response. JJ, are you there?? maybe someone can tell me if he's on vacation or something like that......
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on July 23, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
perfect! thank you!
does anyone know if the same applies for island air?

It should.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: yankel on July 27, 2014, 04:17:08 PM
United didn't change the mainland to Hawaii saver prices when they devalued. The layflat seats on the EWR-HNL route are still 40k each way in saver business (there's no first class on the 767-400ER).

As for availability, all things are possible through Dan. Thanks to Plan B, I've got 3/4 flights in saver business, and I'm pretty confident that the last one will work out too.

Are they EWR to HNL Business Seats LayFlat? did something change? I went in Sep 2012. and it wasn't.

Also Am I doing something wrong? I cannot seem to find any flight saver or standard from IAD to HNL
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on July 31, 2014, 01:50:09 PM
I had JFK-MSP-SFO-HNL and HNL-LAX-MSP-JFK. The outbound had changes that added more than 90 minutes to total flight time, and they let me change it to JFK-LAX-HNL. Side bonus is that originally only JFK-MSP was in M (economy comfort), and now it's JFK-LAX in M. Small comfort for someone who made the mistake of not booking this glitch in business or first. The changes to the return actually shortened the total trip time and they wouldn't let me change it, but the logistics work out that I end up with similar timing anyway.

I couldn't get any traction at all trying to get it changed to go all the way to OGG. So now I'm arriving in HNL at 2:05 and still need to get to OGG. What's the earliest time I can feel comfortable booking HNL-OGG if my bags are checked all the way through? And how about if I want to go see Pearl Harbor before continuing to OGG?
This has been discussed multiple times in the general Hawaii thread.
Okay, so I see Hawaiian says 65 minutes for this connection (link (http://www.hawaiianairlines.com/documents/farerules/minimum-connection-times.html)). But is that with or without having to pick up and recheck luggage?

Reading through the thread a little and looking at info from the Pearl Harbor website, it seems like I'd be much better off taking the first flight to OGG on the inbound, and going back to HNL as early in the morning as possible to do Pearl Harbor on the outbound. Is it crazy to divert half a day of my 4.5 days in Maui for Pearl Harbor? Not really sure yet what I'd be doing during that time in Maui otherwise.

http://help.hawaiianairlines.com/help/Pages/Interline-Baggage-Statement.aspx
I've seen that before, but it seems like there's a lot of anecdotal evidence on DDF and elsewhere that practically speaking if I get them to tag it for OGG at JFK, they'll send it on and I won't have to pick up and re-check the luggage.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dvol on July 31, 2014, 02:25:30 PM

I've seen that before, but it seems like there's a lot of anecdotal evidence on DDF and elsewhere that practically speaking if I get them to tag it for OGG at JFK, they'll send it on and I won't have to pick up and re-check the luggage.


Their official rules are that they will no longer allow that:  "In the past, we often allowed customers to through-check baggage for connections booked on separate tickets as a courtesy. However, the associated customer service challenges have prompted us to discontinue this practice, effective June 1, 2012. "

I personally left 2 hours in HNL before my flight to OGG. I will try my luck in JFK with having my luggage checked through all the way to OGG but not counting on it.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on July 31, 2014, 03:13:34 PM
Their official rules are that they will no longer allow that:  "In the past, we often allowed customers to through-check baggage for connections booked on separate tickets as a courtesy. However, the associated customer service challenges have prompted us to discontinue this practice, effective June 1, 2012. "

I personally left 2 hours in HNL before my flight to OGG. I will try my luck in JFK with having my luggage checked through all the way to OGG but not counting on it.
As I said, everyone I've seen who has posted about actually trying it has written that HA sent the luggage on through, even post-6/1/2012.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on July 31, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
As I said, everyone I've seen who has posted about actually trying it has written that HA sent the luggage on through, even post-6/1/2012.

Just did it from LIH-LAX-JFK as recently as 7/8/2014. No issues of questions. I just gave them both printed itineraries from HA and DL and they tagged it all the way through.

They even use a nice little green tag that says interline that lets them know which bags need to be transferred.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: joey123 on August 06, 2014, 02:32:02 AM
Don't have the time to read through this whole thread now, but I am starting to plan a trip to Hawaii. What's the cheapest way to fly with miles in business? Any help would be Appreciated. I have a lot of diff types of miles, so that shouldn't be a problem
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 06, 2014, 08:58:41 AM
Outdated, but close enough:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/22142
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: joey123 on August 06, 2014, 12:16:33 PM
Outdated, but close enough:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/22142

Much appreciated. I knew there must have been something written about it, but couldn't locate on the forums. YOu can never forget about DDMS :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on August 06, 2014, 12:21:39 PM
Outdated, but close enough:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/22142

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Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on August 07, 2014, 10:20:43 AM
I almost made a big mistake booking my inter-island flights. I have around 12k in an AA account and 100k or so in a UA account, so I was planning on booking one way with AA (10k for the 2 of us) and the other with UA (12k for the 2 of us). But I was spacing out, waiting to long to pick exact times, and after booking OGG-HNL on UA without issue, I tried to book HNL-OGG with AA only to realize that flight is within 21 days and would require $150 in fees (the OGG-HNL is still more than 21 days out).

Luckily someone reminded me about the UA 21 day fee trick, and I was able my OGG-HNL UA booking to HNL-OGG on the earlier date, without incurring any additional fees. Then I just booked the OGG-HNL leg with AA. Phew.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dvol on August 12, 2014, 12:48:38 PM
Just did it from LIH-LAX-JFK as recently as 7/8/2014. No issues of questions. I just gave them both printed itineraries from HA and DL and they tagged it all the way through.

They even use a nice little green tag that says interline that lets them know which bags need to be transferred.

Did you check in online or only at the airport?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: alpicone on August 12, 2014, 01:47:00 PM
Did you check in online or only at the airport?

At the airport.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 10:57:53 AM
OK Gentleman (and Ladies), it's time to start thinking about HI.

We're talking winter time - hopefully January - for a week. I'm not sure which dates will work yet with work, but I hope to be able to take off a week. But dates later, now, let's talk about the where.

I know nothing about HI other than there is way more to do than just a week's worth, but that's all we'll practically be able to have. At the same time, for this trip, we have no interest in doing activities - jeeping or Dole or whatever else there is to do. We want to sit on the beach every day for a week. :) What I would ideally ideally like (and I don't know if this exists in HI with points) is a place that gets us access to a private beach. Does that exist? What's our best bet?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 11:10:20 AM
OK Gentleman (and Ladies), it's time to start thinking about HI.

We're talking winter time - hopefully January - for a week. I'm not sure which dates will work yet with work, but I hope to be able to take off a week. But dates later, now, let's talk about the where.

I know nothing about HI other than there is way more to do than just a week's worth, but that's all we'll practically be able to have. At the same time, for this trip, we have no interest in doing activities - jeeping or Dole or whatever else there is to do. We want to sit on the beach every day for a week. :) What I would ideally ideally like (and I don't know if this exists in HI with points) is a place that gets us access to a private beach. Does that exist? What's our best bet?

If all you want to do is sit on a beach for a week it is pointless (IMHO) to fly 11-12 hours each way for that.  I'd rather go to Florida or the Caribbean. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 11:12:17 AM
We want to sit on the beach every day for a week. :) What I would ideally ideally like (and I don't know if this exists in HI with points) is a place that gets us access to a private beach. Does that exist? What's our best bet?

No such thing as a private beach per se in Hawaii; all beaches are state-owned. There are however many beaches where you could be the only person in sight for hours and hours.

If all you want is quiet beach time check out Lanai. You'll feel your bones melting as soon as you get there. You could drive a jeep right up to the sand on Shipwreck beach and have it all to yourself, all day. There are countless turtles, lots of shade, beautiful views of Moloka'i across the channel, and it's often swimmable (all this as opposed to, for example, Polihale on Kauai).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 11:13:15 AM
If you just want to sit on a beach for a week then find a private house in FL on VRBO or airbnb that's on the beach.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 11:13:27 AM
If all you want to do is sit on a beach for a week it is pointless (IMHO) to fly 11-12 hours each way for that.  I'd rather go to Florida or the Caribbean.

Actually was just gonna add that as an ETA to my post. There are plenty of nice beaches which are closer and cheaper.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 11:20:38 AM
I thought that Hawaii beaches were incomparable?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on August 27, 2014, 11:21:10 AM
But there's so much else to do. & that's a lot of flying to just sit by a beach.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 11:26:11 AM
I thought that Hawaii beaches were incomparable?
There's no beach worth flying 12 hours for IMHO.  The beaches are the icing on the cake.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 11:29:10 AM
Okay, but we also don't want to be running around even close to how we were in Europe. I'm not sure what kind of activities there are to do, but we're not looking for hikes or other "active" activities.

So let's say we have a day or two with nothing planned as beach days, what place would be best to do that and also be close to activities for the other 2-3 days?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 11:31:17 AM
Okay, but we also don't want to be running around even close to how we were in Europe. I'm not sure what kind of activities there are to do, but we're not looking for hikes or other "active" activities.

So let's say we have a day or two with nothing planned as beach days, what place would be best to do that and also be close to activities for the other 2-3 days?

I'd suggest reading the threads dedicated to specific islands.  Everyone has their own opinion as to which island is best. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
Okay, but we also don't want to be running around even close to how we were in Europe. I'm not sure what kind of activities there are to do, but we're not looking for hikes or other "active" activities.

So let's say we have a day or two with nothing planned as beach days, what place would be best to do that and also be close to activities for the other 2-3 days?

Maui has some great "passive" activities. Whale watching, Road to Hana, Haleakala sunrise, etc.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 11:33:14 AM
I'd suggest reading the threads dedicated to specific islands.  Everyone has their own opinion as to which island is best.

Well this is the "which island to visit?" thread :P...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 11:35:12 AM
Well this is the "which island to visit?" thread :P...

Indeed it is.  You know which island I love the best but I am not interested in getting into that heated discussion again.   :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 11:40:17 AM
Well this is the "which island to visit?" thread :P...
lol exactly.

So 1 vote for Maui and 1 vote for the Big Island... lol not sure how else I should be deciding this.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 11:44:53 AM
lol exactly.

So 1 vote for Maui and 1 vote for the Big Island... lol not sure how else I should be deciding this.

If you do decide on the BI, and depending when in January you plan on going, at least 2 DDF folks (besides you) will be there.   :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 11:45:26 AM
lol exactly.

So 1 vote for Maui and 1 vote for the Big Island... lol not sure how else I should be deciding this.

If you're not interested in hiking or running around too much I think Maui is a better fit.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 11:45:37 AM
lol exactly.

So 1 vote for Maui and 1 vote for the Big Island... lol not sure how else I should be deciding this.

In that case I'll throw in a vote for Kauai though my wife would say Maui.

And SF told you Lanai earlier, so add that to the tally.

Truth is though you should probably looking into something like the Andaz Costa Rica...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 11:47:44 AM
And I forgot to mention, the BI has 2 WM's with ATMs - one on each side of the island.   ;D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 11:50:47 AM
And SF told you Lanai earlier, so add that to the tally.

Once he said that he wants to do some activities I recommended Maui instead. Lanai's amazing for klutzing and relaxing, but there's not too much to do.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 11:51:37 AM
Once he said that he wants to do some activities I recommended Maui instead. Lanai's amazing for klutzing and relaxing, but there's not too much to do.
He's looking for activities to be yotzei zayn because we harassed him about flying so long for a beach ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 11:56:55 AM
If you do decide on the BI, and depending when in January you plan on going, at least 2 DDF folks (besides you) will be there.   :)
If I can work it out, the week of the 11th.

And I forgot to mention, the BI has 2 WM's with ATMs - one on each side of the island.   ;D
I'm a cashier kinda guy. ;)

He's looking for activities to be yotzei zayn because we harassed him about flying so long for a beach ;)
I think that's right. After getting harassed for Disney, now I'm getting harassed for going to the BEAUTIFUL HAWAII!! How is CR coming into the picture? lol

I thought getting CC's was hard, then I thought spending was hard, then I thought booking award flights/hotels was hard, then I thought planning an itinerary was hard. NOW I know that dealing with you guys helping me decided where to go is hard. :-p
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on August 27, 2014, 11:59:29 AM
He's looking for activities to be yotzei zayn because we harassed him about flying so long for a beach ;)
Was thinking the same thing. Next time he should just listen to DW.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 12:00:46 PM
Was thinking the same thing. Next time he should just listen to DW.
True, find a house around TPA on the beach and go to Disney for a day.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on August 27, 2014, 12:01:23 PM
I thought getting CC's was hard, then I thought spending was hard, then I thought booking award flights/hotels was hard, then I thought planning an itinerary was hard. NOW I know that dealing with you guys helping me decided where to go is hard. :-p
With all those things there's a workaround, with DDF there's NO workaround.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 12:06:30 PM
Was thinking the same thing. Next time he should just listen to DW.
and go to FL? She wasn't pushing that more than HI just that she definitely wants to go there at some point in her life.
True, find a house around TPA on the beach and go to Disney for a day.
When we do Disney, I plan to do it all out, a park a day and/or some Universal time.

What do you go to HI for? I'm honestly curious. Because I want this trip to be a no-thinking trip. I want to fly F and stay in the top Hyatts like everyone writes on here. But I don't want to spend time online finding the cheapest way to make a reservation for activity X and renting a car to go for a 3 hour drive to do activity Y, etc. etc. If that's all HI is about with just enjoying the beach for an afternoon, then I guess I'm wrong in my expectations of the place.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 12:11:42 PM
What do you go to HI for? I'm honestly curious. Because I want this trip to be a no-thinking trip. I want to fly F and stay in the top Hyatts like everyone writes on here. But I don't want to spend time online finding the cheapest way to make a reservation for activity X and renting a car to go for a 3 hour drive to do activity Y, etc. etc. If that's all HI is about with just enjoying the beach for an afternoon, then I guess I'm wrong in my expectations of the place.
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I go to Hawaii for this:

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 12:14:46 PM
What do you go to HI for?
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6088
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MC on August 27, 2014, 12:18:41 PM
I'll toss in a vote for Kauai too. Though I might be biased, voting while watching sunrise on the beach here ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 12:21:08 PM
I'll toss in a vote for Kauai too. Though I might be biased, voting while watching sunrise on the beach here ;)

Get off your phone >:(>:(>:(!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 12:25:05 PM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/6088
I knew it!
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Or just open up your own Starwood AMEX to start earning to the most valuable and flexible travel currency around!
lol
Okay, reading now.
I go to Hawaii for this:

Very cool!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 12:33:55 PM
I knew it!  lol
2009...that was like 3 devaluations ago and was before Chase UR even existed.
And there were still FFNs :D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 12:42:50 PM
2009...that was like 3 devaluations ago and was before Chase UR even existed.
And there were still FFNs :D
lol

Just finished reading. Well, Kauai sounds awesome! But, from your activities list, I think only the helicopter ride, snorkeling, and Polihale Beach/Queen's Pond would be of interest to us. I guess that is enough activities for 2-3 days though and then 2-3 days at GHK would be nice. If I choose Kauai, does that make sense?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 12:44:54 PM
Every Hawaiian island is awesome.

Read the rest of my and others TRs.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 04:53:45 PM
While figuring out where to stay, I'm also thinking about what currency I will need for hotels. Someone want to help fill in the places that you "definitely" stay when in...
Kauai - GHK
Maui - Andaz
Oahu - ???
BI - ???
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 04:55:53 PM
While figuring out where to stay, I'm also thinking about what currency I will need for hotels. Someone want to help fill in the places that you "definitely" stay when in...
Kauai - GHK
Maui - Andaz
Oahu - ???
BI - ???

While it may not be as luxurious as some other offerings, the Sheraton in Kona can be had for 10k SPG per night (plus resort fee of about 31 per night) or 8k per night if staying 5 nights (5th night free).  If you know someone with a plat account that you can book through, there is a chance of getting nicely upgraded.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 04:56:19 PM
Without kids the argument can be made for the SR Princeville in Kauai.
In Oahu the Royal Hawaiian is probably the way to go.
On the Big Island in 2008 we rented a treehouse.  The point hotel options there are limited other than a lackluster Sheraton in Kona.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 05:03:44 PM
While it may not be as luxurious as some other offerings, the Sheraton in Kona can be had for 10k SPG per night (plus resort fee of about 31 per night) or 8k per night if staying 5 nights (5th night free).  If you know someone with a plat account that you can book through, there is a chance of getting nicely upgraded.
Good to know there's a cheap option, although both of our SPG accounts are at 0. Last cc to go for would be an SPG biz for my wife, but even 30K won't be enough nights.

Without kids the argument can be made for the SR Princeville in Kauai.
In Oahu the Royal Hawaiian is probably the way to go.
On the Big Island in 2008 we rented a treehouse.  The point hotel options there are limited other than a lackluster Sheraton in Kona.
SR - same SPG issue
RH - same SPG issue
Treehouse? That sounds amazing. Too bad you can't pay with points.

So, perhaps my decision of which island will simply be made by which hotel I could stay at and with Hyatt points/nights being easier to come by than SPG, I might just choose between Kauai and Maui.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on August 27, 2014, 05:12:50 PM
Without kids the argument can be made for the SR Princeville in Kauai.
In Oahu the Royal Hawaiian is probably the way to go.
On the Big Island in 2008 we rented a treehouse.  The point hotel options there are limited other than a lackluster Sheraton in Kona.

I know it's not points, but why not try and get fairmont free nights for use at the orchid on the BI(or Kea Lani in Maui)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 05:15:24 PM
I know it's not points, but why not try and get fairmont free nights for use at the orchid on the BI(or Kea Lani in Maui)
Thoughts from the HI pros?
Fairmont CC comes with 2 nights for $3K spend...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 05:16:11 PM
Thoughts from the HI pros?
Fairmont CC comes with 2 nights for $3K spend...

depends on how many nights you need.....
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 05:21:52 PM
I know it's not points, but why not try and get fairmont free nights for use at the orchid on the BI(or Kea Lani in Maui)
Orchid reviews are pretty weak and I preferred the Andaz to the Kea Lani.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on August 27, 2014, 05:22:26 PM
depends on how many nights you need.....

I stayed next door at the Mauna Lani(paid with $$), and walked over to the fairmont. It's easily the 2nd highest end property on the island after the Four seasons. I would say it depends on the rate. In low season if prices are $250-300, then most likely not worth it, if high season and over $400 then might be worth it.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 05:27:45 PM
depends on how many nights you need.....
That's also something to discuss. I've been thinking about how to get the most time in HI.

Getting to HI: Is flying Sunday a bad idea because you lost 3/4 of the day? I was thinking of maybe flying to LA for Shabbos and then from there to HI early Sunday morning.
Leaving HI: IINM, you have to leave Thursday night to be home for Shabbos. If I have to be back for work Monday morning, can I catch a flight Motzai Shabbos/Sunday and be back at a reasonable hour Sunday night?

I guess we're talking a minimum of 4 nights and a max of 7 nights.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 05:29:25 PM
Did you ask a Rov about shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 05:31:10 PM
That's also something to discuss. I've been thinking about how to get the most time in HI.

Getting to HI: Is flying Sunday a bad idea because you lost 3/4 of the day? I was thinking of maybe flying to LA for Shabbos and then from there to HI early Sunday morning.
Leaving HI: IINM, you have to leave Thursday night to be home for Shabbos. If I have to be back for work Monday morning, can I catch a flight Motzai Shabbos/Sunday and be back at a reasonable hour Sunday night?

I guess we're talking a minimum of 4 nights and a max of 7 nights.

As for flights, it depends on if you want direct or a stopover.  Hawaiian flies direct from JFK to HNL.  United flies direct from EWR to HNL and AFAIK has the only fully lay flat F seats for direct flights.  If you take a direct flight, you will get into HNL by late afternoon but yes, the day will likely be shot.

Regarding return, again if you want fully lay flat F seats, UA operates an evening flight that leaves about 9:00 p.m. from HNL and gets into EWR around noon the following day.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on August 27, 2014, 05:34:35 PM
That's also something to discuss. I've been thinking about how to get the most time in HI.

Getting to HI: Is flying Sunday a bad idea because you lost 3/4 of the day? I was thinking of maybe flying to LA for Shabbos and then from there to HI early Sunday morning.
Leaving HI: IINM, you have to leave Thursday night to be home for Shabbos. If I have to be back for work Monday morning, can I catch a flight Motzai Shabbos/Sunday and be back at a reasonable hour Sunday night?

I guess we're talking a minimum of 4 nights and a max of 7 nights.
If you can find a Motzai Shabbos flight from HI, you'll be back in the east coast Sunday afternoon.
I have a 10pm flight from KOA on Motzai Shabbos arriving in JFK around 2pm with a stop in LAX
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 05:37:09 PM
If you can find a Motzai Shabbos flight from HI, you'll be back in the east coast Sunday afternoon.
I have a 10pm flight from KOA on Motzai Shabbos arriving in JFK around 2pm with a stop in LAX

The problem with a motzei shabbos flight is that you will be rushing your kishkas to check out and get to the airport.  We did that one year and it just wasn't worth it.  Then again I was traveling with the family/kids so it was a bit more complicated.  Also, it isn't possible to make that 9:00 p.m. UA flight from HNL if you are connecting from another island. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on August 27, 2014, 05:37:34 PM

Regarding return, again if you want fully lay flat F seats, UA operates an evening flight that leaves about 9:00 p.m. from HNL and gets into EWR around noon the following day.
He wont be able to make that flight if he's thinking about leaving HI on Motzai Shabbos from anywhere other than HNL
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 05:42:56 PM
Did you ask a Rov about shabbos?
Not yet.
As for flights, it depends on if you want direct or a stopover.  Hawaiian flies direct from JFK to HNL.  United flies direct from EWR to HNL and AFAIK has the only fully lay flat F seats for direct flights.  If you take a direct flight, you will get into HNL by late afternoon but yes, the day will likely be shot.

Regarding return, again if you want fully lay flat F seats, UA operates an evening flight that leaves about 9:00 p.m. from HNL and gets into EWR around noon the following day.
If I end up staying through Shabbos, then I'd be fine with going direct and missing most of Sunday, but the issue is finding avail on that Sunday. That's why I started looking at spending the first Shab in LA since there is probably more availability of going LAX-HI.

Perhaps I can get avail on the Motzai Shab flight out, but either way I imagine this is not going to work with direct flights. Once that's the case, I should probably go for LAX as a stop since LAX-NYC has fully flat options, right? At least have a bed for 1/2 the journey...
If you can find a Motzai Shabbos flight from HI, you'll be back in the east coast Sunday afternoon.
I have a 10pm flight from KOA on Motzai Shabbos arriving in JFK around 2pm with a stop in LAX
Thanks, good to know about the timing.

Yeah, I realize Shab would have to be in Oahu. There are no Sunday morning flights on *A?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on August 27, 2014, 05:46:17 PM
Why make plans before asking a rov?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 05:46:28 PM
Yeah, I realize Shab would have to be in Oahu. There are no Sunday morning flights on *A?

If you are referring to UA, no - AFAIK the direct flight from HNL to EWR always leaves at night.  Then again, I actually prefer it.  You get almost a full extra day in Hawaii and get to sleep on the flight.  We took the UA flight this past Jan - ate supper (which was fairly disgusting) and then fell asleep.  Woke up when the pilot announced the final descent into EWR.   :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on August 27, 2014, 05:52:47 PM
If you have to keep two days shabbos leaving Thursday is problematic too. You gotta AYLOR before you make any travel plans.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 05:54:05 PM
Why make plans before asking a rov?
It's a good point. I was just trying to get a feel for the amount of time to spend there.
Yeah, I realize Shab would have to be in Oahu. There are no Sunday morning flights on *A?

If you are referring to UA, no - AFAIK the direct flight from HNL to EWR always leaves at night.  Then again, I actually prefer it.  You get almost a full extra day in Hawaii and get to sleep on the flight.  We took the UA flight this past Jan - ate supper (which was fairly disgusting) and then fell asleep.  Woke up when the pilot announced the final descent into EWR.   :)
Nice. I thought Hawaiin is also *A.
If you have to keep two days shabbos leaving Thursday is problematic too. You gotta AYLOR before you make any travel plans.
True point.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on August 27, 2014, 05:57:15 PM
The Hawaiian direct flight from HNL to JFK leaves in the afternoon, not morning.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on August 27, 2014, 06:00:26 PM
The Hawaiian direct flight from HNL to JFK leaves in the afternoon, not morning.
Thanks.

Okay, so I guess all this hypothetical talk is silly. I should first speak to my Rav and find out from work if/when I can actually take off.

I was just hoping to get an idea of how many hotel points I'd need so I can start collecting more points/nights now because I won't know about work for a little while still.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on September 02, 2014, 12:15:17 AM
Thoughts from the HI pros?
Fairmont CC comes with 2 nights for $3K spend...
I just did the Fairmont CC for me and my wife, using the nights at the Kea Lani on Maui. The combination of the signup bonus and the FPC Premier status you automatically get for having the card gives you an impressive array of certificates to use:

2 x $25 Dining/Willow Stream Certificate
1 x 3rd Night Free
1 x Complimentary Room Upgrade
1 x Complimentary Suite Upgrade
4 x $25 Breakfast Certificate
2 x Complimentary Night

That's per card, so double it if you're signing up the Mrs for a card as well. We only went for 4 nights, so we didn't use the 3rd night free. The Kea Lani is all suite, and they upgraded us into an oceanview room, so we didn't use either upgrade certificate (you'd probably need those to get a suite at the Orchid though). But between the 2 of us, we used up the entire $300 worth of breakfast/spa/dining. My wife used about half of that at the spa, and the rest we used at the 'deli' there. They had uncut fruit, bottled drinks (milk, coffee, OJ, soda, etc), Ben and Jerry's ice cream, wine (didn't check if any was kosher), and some kosher packaged snacks. Obviously the prices are outrageous, but to me it was free, and helped to not have to buy or bring certain items.

This was my first trip to HI, and we only stayed in one place, so I can't really say what's the best. Personally, I really liked the hotel and it's grounds/amenities and would recommend it to others. There were definitely a lot of families there, but I think that was true everywhere in Maui while we were there, as summer vacation is prime traveling time for families.

As far as what to do while you're in HI, definitely don't just sit at the beach. Speaking specifically for Maui, try some water sports, whether locally at the beach by the hotel you're staying in, or something more involved. Definitely check go up to Haleakala for sunrise, even if you don't want to hike any of the trails there. Road to Hana is fantastic too, and you can probably look through Maui Revelead to pick out sights that don't require to much hiking to appreciate.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Buruch on September 02, 2014, 03:51:02 AM
You can't use third night free with the 2 signup nights, correct?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on September 02, 2014, 07:32:59 AM
Thanks for the info! Good to know about the details of the Fairmont CC and your hotel. Haven't really come back to this decision for a few days, but I hope to get there soon.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2014, 09:16:10 AM
You can't use third night free with the 2 signup nights, correct?
You wish ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2014, 09:17:04 AM
Kea Lani is a very good hotel, but grounds/pools aren't mindblowing like they are at the GHK and Andaz.

And the Andaz suite is mush larger than the Kea Lani suite though I didn't see a standard Andaz room which I'm sure is smaller than the Kea Lani suite.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on September 02, 2014, 09:17:42 AM
Kea Lani is a very good hotel, but grounds/pools aren't mindblowing like they are at the GHK and Andaz.
Thanks, that's good to know. Have you stayed at all 3?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2014, 09:18:38 AM
Thanks, that's good to know. Have you stayed at all 3?
Yes and written TRs on them (as well as other contenders like SRP and HRM) so you should know that ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on September 02, 2014, 09:24:39 AM
Yes and written TRs on them (as well as other contenders like SRP and HRM) so you should know that ;)
I did not notice the Kea Lani in a TR. Could be I missed one, okay!?  :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on September 02, 2014, 09:27:32 AM
Ok im thinking about possibly doing a trip to hawaii in december from NYC but am having some issues and need some advice. I am very limited by my dates I can leave in the evening of Wed Dec 24th or anytime Thursday Dec 25th and I must be back in ny by the evening of Sun Jan 4th. I can find availability in economy (I know I will try and upgrade but if its my only option....) for the way there ny-iad-hnl on dec 25th. But i can not find any availability at all to fly black from anywhere on saturday night jan 3rd or early on sunday january 4th. I'm thinking maybe I will only go for a week and instead go to denver where I have family on thursday January 1st and then onto ny on sunday.

Is it stupid for me to fly from the east coast and only have a week? Anyone have any other options for me?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on September 02, 2014, 10:54:19 AM
Kea Lani is a very good hotel, but grounds/pools aren't mindblowing like they are at the GHK and Andaz.

And the Andaz suite is mush larger than the Kea Lani suite though I didn't see a standard Andaz room which I'm sure is smaller than the Kea Lani suite.
I was very impressed and satisfied with the grounds at the Kea Lani, but I realize it probably doesn't quite reach the heights of some of the other Wailea resorts (aside from the Andaz, the Grand Wailea and Four Seasons are supposedly pretty impressive too). The main reason I didn't end up going to the Andaz is the cost of a suite. I realize that C+P with a diamond upgrade cert (assuming @Yehuda has or can get one) is a great value, but $150/night is still $150/night out of pocket.

As far as the suites, to be honest, once it's big enough that I don't feel cramped, the extra space probably would make no difference to me. The Andaz bathroom looked really cool in your pics, but the Kea Lani's wasn't too bad either. The most important thing for me would be what view you end up with, and that doesn't seem like anything you can guarantee in either hotel.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on September 02, 2014, 11:05:48 AM
Ok im thinking about possibly doing a trip to hawaii in december from NYC but am having some issues and need some advice. I am very limited by my dates I can leave in the evening of Wed Dec 24th or anytime Thursday Dec 25th and I must be back in ny by the evening of Sun Jan 4th. I can find availability in economy (I know I will try and upgrade but if its my only option....) for the way there ny-iad-hnl on dec 25th. But i can not find any availability at all to fly black from anywhere on saturday night jan 3rd or early on sunday january 4th. I'm thinking maybe I will only go for a week and instead go to denver where I have family on thursday January 1st and then onto ny on sunday.

Is it stupid for me to fly from the east coast and only have a week? Anyone have any other options for me?

One week is enough for one island and I would not recommend island hopping.  That being said, you probably won't have a chance to do everything you might want to do but it will be an excuse for you to go back.   :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on September 02, 2014, 11:09:31 AM
One week is enough for one island and I would not recommend island hopping.  That being said, you probably won't have a chance to do everything you might want to do but it will be an excuse for you to go back.   :)
Lol, exactly how I feel right now.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on September 02, 2014, 11:12:02 AM
Lol, exactly how I feel right now.

We typically go for about a week every year because I cannot get 2 weeks off from work and pull my kids out of school for longer - my feeling is that I'll take a week of paradise rather than nothing.  After you go, I am sure that you will feel the same way. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on September 02, 2014, 11:12:17 AM
One week is enough for one island and I would not recommend island hopping.  That being said, you probably won't have a chance to do everything you might want to do but it will be an excuse for you to go back.   :)
hmmmm. Thanks for the advice. Need to decide what we want to do.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on September 02, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
We typically go for about a week every year because I cannot get 2 weeks off from work and pull my kids out of school for longer - my feeling is that I'll take a week of paradise rather than nothing.  After you go, I am sure that you will feel the same way.
Oh, absolutely, I agree. I just came back on Friday. I meant about the bolded line.
One week is enough for one island and I would not recommend island hopping.  That being said, you probably won't have a chance to do everything you might want to do but it will be an excuse for you to go back.   :)
I loved every second of it (except the part where I missed my return flight - don't worry, mostly happy ending), but more time would have meant being able to do/see more things and the ability to spread things out so as not to feel rushed.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on September 02, 2014, 11:58:23 AM
Well then I need to decide which island do i want to spend a week on.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: arid on September 02, 2014, 12:25:17 PM
Well then I need to decide which island do i want to spend a week on.
TBI or kauai
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on September 02, 2014, 12:28:45 PM
TBI
really? I was thinking either LIH or OGG
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 02, 2014, 12:29:07 PM
TBI or kauai
Or Maui.  Just depends on what you're looking for.
Can easily make the argument for each.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on September 02, 2014, 12:30:01 PM
Or Maui.  Just depends on what you're looking for.
Can easily make the argument for each.
As can be seen by reading the discussion everyone had with me a few pages up.

Read a bunch of TRs and then decide for yourself.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on September 02, 2014, 12:43:06 PM
As can be seen by reading the discussion everyone had with me a few pages up.

Read a bunch of TRs and then decide for yourself.
Yea I know, just need to find the time to read them all.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: arid on September 04, 2014, 02:07:51 PM
Yea I know, just need to find the time to read them all.
the truth is, i probably base my top 2 choices on my top 2 activities. The hike to get under waipio falls on TBI was hands down the best thing i've done on all the islands. Second would prob be the heli ride in Kauai. Best thing i did in maui was snorkling in the clearest water ive ever seen, by molokini. there are plenty of amazing things to do at all 3 but those 2 were the best for me.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: eljay07 on September 15, 2014, 10:19:04 AM
Without kids the argument can be made for the SR Princeville in Kauai.
In Oahu the Royal Hawaiian is probably the way to go.
On the Big Island in 2008 we rented a treehouse.  The point hotel options there are limited other than a lackluster Sheraton in Kona.

Which treehouse did you rent, and do you recommend it? Thanks.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on September 27, 2014, 08:52:22 PM
Korean updated their award chart - you can now use 25k Korean or UR for a r/t in Delta in coach, or 45k in biz!

HT: MMS
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on September 27, 2014, 08:55:07 PM
Korean updated their award chart - you can now use 25k Korean or UR for a r/t in Delta in coach, or 45k in biz!

HT: MMS
but can you ever find biz aavailability
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Drago on September 29, 2014, 05:07:07 AM
Anyone have an idea to which island I'd have luck getting either 5 reward seats on a flight, or 3 and 2, ex-LAX?
This is in economy.
Would prefer OGG or LIH based on reviews.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Drago on September 29, 2014, 09:29:31 AM
Anyone have an idea to which island I'd have luck getting either 5 reward seats on a flight, or 3 and 2, ex-LAX?
This is in economy.
Would prefer OGG or LIH based on reviews.
Someone found me to KOA, but I'm still looking...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 29, 2014, 10:00:06 AM
Korean updated their award chart - you can now use 25k Korean or UR for a r/t in Delta in coach, or 45k in biz!

HT: MMS
Can't find any availability,  any tips?
but can you ever find biz aavailability
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on September 29, 2014, 10:25:51 AM
Can't find any availability,  any tips?
Search Delta.com for saver awards?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Hershelsdeals on September 29, 2014, 10:26:44 AM
Search Delta.com for saver awards?
Then book Korean?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yellow on October 06, 2014, 03:54:35 AM
Search Delta.com for saver awards?

Saw some availability for saver awards. Problem is that there are 2 stopovers each way and flight time is anywhere from 15-19 hours.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 23, 2014, 03:38:06 PM
Which island would be the best to stay over shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 23, 2014, 03:39:45 PM
Which island would be the best to stay over shabbos?

I think HNL has the only practical minyan.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on October 23, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
KOA should have as well.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 23, 2014, 05:13:20 PM
Which hotel is most conducive to shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on October 23, 2014, 05:19:23 PM
Which hotel is most conducive to shabbos?

Which island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 23, 2014, 08:37:24 PM
Which island?


It seems that only HNL and KOA have minyanim, so between those two.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on October 23, 2014, 08:51:38 PM

It seems that only HNL and KOA have minyanim, so between those two.

I don't know about HNL but there is only one hotel in KOA within walking distance of Chabad - Royal Kona.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 23, 2014, 09:23:01 PM
Which island is the best to get a cheap house with pool rental? Any specific recommendations? I found some homes that look nice on VRBO but I always like to hear first hand experiences. Which island is the easiest to get pool homes for reasonable rates?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on October 23, 2014, 09:27:37 PM
Which island is the best to get a cheap house with pool rental? Any specific recommendations? I found some homes that look nice on VRBO but I always like to hear first hand experiences. Which island is the easiest to get pool homes for reasonable rates?

Different people commented on places to stay in the BI thread.  I suggest you check it out.  I personally don't know of a "cheap" house rental with a pool. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 23, 2014, 09:29:35 PM
I stayed here (http://www.homeaway.com/vacation-rental/p398841) on the BI. Amazing place.

$139/night, pool and all.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 23, 2014, 09:45:17 PM
The home looks gorgeous, but it says that sometimes the studio downstairs is occupied. What was your experience?

I guess cheap is a relative term, I meant which island would have the cheapER rates, under $300/night.

Dan mentioned some kind of treehouse, I don't remember which island but does anyone know anything about that?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 23, 2014, 10:01:47 PM
The home looks gorgeous, but it says that sometimes the studio downstairs is occupied. What was your experience?

I guess cheap is a relative term, I meant which island would have the cheapER rates, under $300/night.

Dan mentioned some kind of treehouse, I don't remember which island but does anyone know anything about that?

I paid an extra $35/night to lock out the downstairs so it was only us. Was a smashing good deal.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 24, 2014, 09:12:01 AM
Which treehouse did you rent, and do you recommend it? Thanks.

BUMP
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 24, 2014, 10:47:29 AM
I heard that ferry service between island has been discontinued, is flying the only way to get from island to island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on October 24, 2014, 10:54:14 AM
I heard that ferry service between island has been discontinued, is flying the only way to get from island to island?

Depends which islands.  I think there is ferry service between Maui and Lanai. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on October 24, 2014, 11:07:45 AM
Maui to BI or Kauai
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on October 24, 2014, 11:09:45 AM
Maui to BI or Kauai

AFAIK there is no such ferry service.  Just fly Hawaiian.  You can book interisland flights through UA for as little as 6k each way.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 24, 2014, 11:16:58 AM
Depends which islands.  I think there is ferry service between Maui and Lanai.

Ferry: $30/pp, 90 minute crossing, leaves only from Lahaina (pain in the neck of you're staying anywhere but).

Mokulele airlines OGG-LNY: $40/pp (not always, but often), 35 minute flight, flies out of OGG (convenient for most). The must fun flight I ever took. It's almost like flying private - drive up to the counter, no TSA, 5 other people on the tiny little plane plane (Cessna Grand Caravan), safety briefing given by the pilot turned around in his seat... And not to mention the smashing views throught.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on October 24, 2014, 11:17:57 AM
AFAIK there is no such ferry service.  Just fly Hawaiian.  You can book interisland flights through UA for as little as 6k each way.

You could also do it for 5k - see the wiki.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on November 16, 2014, 07:18:13 PM
Trying to recommend an island to some friends.
They want to travel in Jan/Feb time. They aren't big on water sports or just sitting by the beach all day.  They'd like Horseback riding, easier hikes, beautiful views, ATVing etc.

Which island do you recommend?
Maui?
Big Island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on November 16, 2014, 10:13:18 PM
Trying to recommend an island to some friends.
They want to travel in Jan/Feb time. They aren't big on water sports or just sitting by the beach all day.  They'd like Horseback riding, easier hikes, beautiful views, ATVing etc.

Which island do you recommend?
Maui?
Big Island?
If you're coming from the east coast, you're much better off sitting by the beach in the Caribbean
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on November 16, 2014, 10:15:00 PM
If you're coming from the east coast, you're much better off sitting by the beach in the Caribbean

Trying to recommend an island to some friends.
They want to travel in Jan/Feb time. They aren't big on water sports or just sitting by the beach all day.  They'd like Horseback riding, easier hikes, beautiful views, ATVing etc.

Which island do you recommend?
Maui?
Big Island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on November 17, 2014, 08:23:48 AM


They are coming from LAX.

No island recommendations? Anyone?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on November 17, 2014, 08:29:47 AM


They are coming from LAX.

No island recommendations? Anyone?
Haven't been to Hawaii yet, but from reading about it, it seemed that Kauai is the king of hikes (please CMIIW).

I suppose ATV'ing and horseback riding they can find on either Island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on November 17, 2014, 10:08:41 AM
They are coming from LAX.

No island recommendations? Anyone?

I suggest reading some of the trip reports that people posted.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on November 17, 2014, 10:12:48 AM
Trying to recommend an island to some friends.
They want to travel in Jan/Feb time. They aren't big on water sports or just sitting by the beach all day.  They'd like Horseback riding, easier hikes, beautiful views, ATVing etc.

Which island do you recommend?
Maui?
Big Island?
Ironically, you could probably argue that those qualifications make it harder to narrow down which island to visit. I went to Maui and spent only half a day at the pool/beach by the hotel, the rest of it on things that fit your description. But from what I've read, the other islands fit that bill too (except maybe Oahu).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on November 17, 2014, 08:31:55 PM
I thought we were set on a trip to Maui and a few days on the BI but now I'm thinking to try Kauai or maybe even one of the less popular islands. We are going Sunday through the following Tuesday so our time is somewhat limited.
AHHHH so many choices! Any advice would be appreciated!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on November 17, 2014, 08:33:54 PM
I thought we were set on a trip to Maui and a few days on the BI but now I'm thinking to try Kauai or maybe even one of the less popular islands. We are going Sunday through the following Tuesday so our time is somewhat limited.
AHHHH so many choices! Any advice would be appreciated!

How many days Shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on November 17, 2014, 10:31:43 PM

How many days Shabbos?

One
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on November 18, 2014, 10:03:16 AM
It seems that HNL is the best island to spend shabbos, any thoughts on this?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on November 18, 2014, 10:05:46 AM
It seems that HNL is the best island to spend shabbos, any thoughts on this?

Why do you say that?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on November 18, 2014, 10:09:14 AM
Not sure, but that seems to be where most people go for shabbos. What do you think?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on November 18, 2014, 10:16:56 AM
Not sure, but that seems to be where most people go for shabbos. What do you think?

As for me personally, I avoid HNL except for use as a stopover.  I prefer to maximize the time to spend where I really want to be - the BI.  Further, if what you are really after is a minyan, Chabad on the BI usually has a minyan on Shabbos (call ahead to inquire if they think they will have one when you plan to go) and there is a hotel near Chabad, as has been discussed earlier.  When we last went, there were at least 5 frum families on the BI for Shabbos.  Not sure where they stayed since we didn't bump into any of them.  Then again, I tend to hang out in the boon docks and preferably in the immediate vicinity of lava.   :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on November 18, 2014, 10:30:05 AM
On the BI we want to stay in a pool home but its a waste of money over shabbos, maybe we will stay near chabad for shabbos and then rent a pool home the remaining days.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 04, 2014, 02:37:29 AM
I'd greatly appreciate if someone can spare me from going through 68 pages.

I'm planning a trip with my DW to Hawaii in ~ a month. The only thing is, for technical reasons it will unfortunately have to be short.
We will be departing NY on a Wednesday and arriving back in NY the following Tuesday morning.

A) Which island(s) should we spend our time on?
I know Shabbos comes smack-in-the-middle, which could be problematic, because I'd want to be able to daven with a minyan for Shabbos.
But I still wouldn't want to limit myself and stay on the least pretty island (Oahu) because of that...

B) Who provides a better and more comfortable business class product for direct flights to/from NYC? United or Hawaiian? And what about economy?

Any advice is greatly appreciated! Thank you very much in advance!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2014, 02:58:49 AM
For biz United all the way, or delta and aa have some lie flat routes too. Hawaiian is just a bit better than domestic first class, it's not lie flat, and there is barely a partition separating it from economy.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 04, 2014, 03:06:22 AM
For biz United all the way, or delta and aa have some lie flat routes too. Hawaiian is just a bit better than domestic first class, it's not lie flat, and there is barely a partition separating it from economy.
Thanks!  How about the economy?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 04, 2014, 08:02:36 AM
I'd greatly appreciate if someone can spare me from going through 68 pages.

Let me spare you from both reading 68 pages, and from taking a trip that is - in my opinion - is a really bad idea.

That there are no direct flights from NY to any islands other than HNL. That means at least two flights. Even if you decide to go only to HNL (bad idea), your arrival would be and 2pm the earliest, meaning 7pm eastern. You'll be exhausted. That means that no matter what time you leave NY, you won't be able to do anything in Hawaii on Wednesday. Maybe watch sunset from the beach in front of the hotel, but nothing more.

As far as the return, if you have to be back in NY on Tuesday morning, that means leaving leaving Monday afternoon - around 6 if you're on HNL, and 3-4 if you're on a different island. Note that the direct United flight will get you in to NY around 11 IIRC; hardly "morning". If your have to be here early, you'll have to leave even earlier and connect (most commonly in LAX).

All this means that you'll have only ~3 days to do anything - Thursday, Sunday, and half of Friday and Monday. And that's with only one day Shabbos instead is two...

Going all the way to Hawaii - no matter which island - for only 3 days is absolutely nuts. Go to the Caribbean instead.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 04, 2014, 08:07:37 AM
As far as seats DL had the best seat to Hawaii on their A330 out of ATL. Otherwise it's the United direct on the 767, or via SFO on the 757 and 767 (both lie-flat).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2014, 02:57:34 PM
Thanks!  How about the economy?

Economy there are probably all about the same, maybe Hawaiian has the edge.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 04, 2014, 03:07:49 PM
Let me spare you from both reading 68 pages, and from taking a trip that is - in my opinion - is a really bad idea.

That there are no direct flights from NY to any islands other than HNL. That means at least two flights. Even if you decide to go only to HNL (bad idea), your arrival would be and 2pm the earliest, meaning 7pm eastern. You'll be exhausted. That means that no matter what time you leave NY, you won't be able to do anything in Hawaii on Wednesday. Maybe watch sunset from the beach in front of the hotel, but nothing more.

As far as the return, if you have to be back in NY on Tuesday morning, that means leaving leaving Monday afternoon - around 6 if you're on HNL, and 3-4 if you're on a different island. Note that the direct United flight will get you in to NY around 11 IIRC; hardly "morning". If your have to be here early, you'll have to leave even earlier and connect (most commonly in LAX).

All this means that you'll have only ~3 days to do anything - Thursday, Sunday, and half of Friday and Monday. And that's with only one day Shabbos instead is two...

Going all the way to Hawaii - no matter which island - for only 3 days is absolutely nuts. Go to the Caribbean instead.
Thanks you for that great explanation/summary. Should definitely be put in the wiki.

As far as seats DL had the best seat to Hawaii on their A330 out of ATL. Otherwise it's the United direct on the 767, or via SFO on the 757 and 767 (both lie-flat).
That last part didn't mean that SFO-HNL is lie-flat did it?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 04, 2014, 03:13:43 PM
Let me spare you from both reading 68 pages, and from taking a trip that is - in my opinion - is a really bad idea.

That there are no direct flights from NY to any islands other than HNL. That means at least two flights. Even if you decide to go only to HNL (bad idea), your arrival would be and 2pm the earliest, meaning 7pm eastern. You'll be exhausted. That means that no matter what time you leave NY, you won't be able to do anything in Hawaii on Wednesday. Maybe watch sunset from the beach in front of the hotel, but nothing more.

As far as the return, if you have to be back in NY on Tuesday morning, that means leaving leaving Monday afternoon - around 6 if you're on HNL, and 3-4 if you're on a different island. Note that the direct United flight will get you in to NY around 11 IIRC; hardly "morning". If your have to be here early, you'll have to leave even earlier and connect (most commonly in LAX).

All this means that you'll have only ~3 days to do anything - Thursday, Sunday, and half of Friday and Monday. And that's with only one day Shabbos instead is two...

Going all the way to Hawaii - no matter which island - for only 3 days is absolutely nuts. Go to the Caribbean instead.
Fishy, thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. Firstly, we already did the Caribbean, now we're on to the next. I agree it's too little time, but for all intents and purposes I don't have a better option. I mean, how many times can we go to Miami, Cali, and the Caribbean for a few days?! We'll let this trip whet our palate for another time.

Secondly, my thought was to fly business for the very reason that we shouldn't arrive exhausted, though I know that does't always work that way...

Re. flying nonstop, sorry if I wasn't clear. Obviously I don't expect to fly direct to Maui or any other island, I meant to HNL, and from there my question was and is, which island(s) should we spend our time on, taking a Shabbos minyan into consideration (but w/o being stranded on Oahu). Re. Shabbos, we plan on keeping one day.

So, which island? :)

TIA!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2014, 03:15:34 PM
Only KOA and HNL have a minyan on shabbos.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yaalili on December 04, 2014, 03:18:34 PM
This article here lists the options you have in biz with lie flat seats - http://onemileatatime.boardingarea.com/2014/11/21/why-arent-there-nicer-seats-to-hawaii/. Seems the only one not to HNL is to OGG from DFW with AA, though it is angled a bit.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 04, 2014, 03:19:01 PM
Economy there are probably all about the same, maybe Hawaiian has the edge.
Though they do charge for luggage. Any way to get out of that? (Dan's corp only works for paid tickets I assume, correct?)
UA at least I get the free 1/2 for cardholders...
As far as seats DL had the best seat to Hawaii on their A330 out of ATL. Otherwise it's the United direct on the 767, or via SFO on the 757 and 767 (both lie-flat).
Are DL's seats out of ATL on biz so much better than UA out of EWR that it's worth making a stop?!  ;) Lol!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 04, 2014, 03:24:13 PM
Only KOA and HNL have a minyan on shabbos.
Thing is, my impression from your TR's is that out of the 4 islands, those 2 are the least 'honeymoonish' if you will ;).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 04, 2014, 03:26:08 PM

That last part didn't mean that SFO-HNL is lie-flat did it?

There's one UA per day SFO-HNL on the 767 lie-flat. Schedule works out nicely of connecting from JFK.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2014, 03:26:23 PM
Thing is, my impression from your TR's is that out of the 4 islands, those 2 are the least 'honeymoonish' if you will ;).
True, but you don't have many options if you need a minyan.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 04, 2014, 03:38:50 PM
True, but you don't have many options if you need a minyan.
You wrote that Chabad of Kauai has started attempting to have a Shabbos minyan. Any update?
Any idea what the chances are in January?

Thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 04, 2014, 03:39:32 PM
There's one UA per day SFO-HNL on the 767 lie-flat. Schedule works out nicely of connecting from JFK.
Thanks! When the time comes it will be good to know that if I can't find the EWR-HNL option, there is another all-lie flat route.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2014, 03:45:52 PM
You wrote that Chabad of Kauai has started attempting to have a Shabbos minyan. Any update?
Any idea what the chances are in January?

Thanks!
From what I heard he never gets a minyan.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 04, 2014, 03:49:45 PM
I had cousins that went this summer and went to KOA for Shabbos and there wasn't much of a Minyan. My cousin ended up "laining" for them because there was no one else to do it.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 04, 2014, 03:54:06 PM
I had cousins that went this summer and went to KOA for Shabbos and there wasn't much of a Minyan. My cousin ended up "laining" for them because there was no one else to do it.
See, the thing about a minyan is either there is one or there isn't ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 04, 2014, 03:54:56 PM
See, the thing about a minyan is either there is one or there isn't ;)
Ok ok well there were 10 men, but none of them were prepared to lain, so it wasn't so much of a "shul", let's say. :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on December 04, 2014, 04:00:29 PM
See, the thing about a minyan is either there is one or there isn't ;)
I learned from my shabbos stay at HNL Chabad that you can have men "davening" that you think are part of a minyan, but they aren't actually Jewish at all.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on December 04, 2014, 08:59:43 PM
You wrote that Chabad of Kauai has started attempting to have a Shabbos minyan. Any update?
Any idea what the chances are in January?

Thanks!
you probably have a bigger chance of having a minyan at the GHK then at chabad in January



Ok ok well there were 10 men, but none of them were prepared to lain, so it wasn't so much of a "shul", let's say. :)
what do you expect? 50-60 people in shul on shabbos in KOA
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 04, 2014, 09:08:05 PM
Are DL's seats out of ATL on biz so much better than UA out of EWR that it's worth making a stop?!  ;) Lol!

Not that you're likely to find availability on either >:( >:( >:(...

Having flown both the A330 and 767 on my last trip (both DL, but I beleive that the UA 767 is pretty much identical) I could say that for me personally it would be worth it. The 767 just doesn't compare to the A330 in space, comfort, and privacy.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 04, 2014, 09:24:14 PM
Fishy, thank you very much for your input, I appreciate it. Firstly, we already did the Caribbean, now we're on to the next. I agree it's too little time, but for all intents and purposes I don't have a better option. I mean, how many times can we go to Miami, Cali, and the Caribbean for a few days?! We'll let this trip whet our palate for another time.

Secondly, my thought was to fly business for the very reason that we shouldn't arrive exhausted, though I know that does't always work that way...

Re. flying nonstop, sorry if I wasn't clear. Obviously I don't expect to fly direct to Maui or any other island, I meant to HNL, and from there my question was and is, which island(s) should we spend our time on, taking a Shabbos minyan into consideration (but w/o being stranded on Oahu). Re. Shabbos, we plan on keeping one day.

So, which island? :)

TIA!

Then I'd recommend KOA.

- Possible Minyan
- You could see most of the major sights within your time limits
- You'll see both sides of Hawaii - the wild, barren one and the lush, paradise one. Whetting your palate indeed ;)
- The lava flow being very active now makes for perfect timing and the potential for very interesting memories

A possible itinerary would be:
Wed. - arrive KOA and stock up.
Thu. - relax, snorkel/dive the otherworldly Kona beaches, sunset and stargazing on Mauna Kea.
Fri. - explore the north side and prepare for Shabbos.
Sha. - Shabbos.
Sun. - Volcanoes National Park. Overnight on the Hilo side.
Mon. - explore the lush coast, Waipio Valley, etc. Leave from ITO.

Some variance maybe depending on whether you want to spend one night in a different place, one-way car issues, or if you'd rather do Mauna Kea towards the end (may work out better jet lag-wise).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 05, 2014, 12:51:29 AM
Then I'd recommend KOA.

- Possible Minyan
- You could see most of the major sights within your time limits
- You'll see both sides of Hawaii - the wild, barren one and the lush, paradise one. Whetting your palate indeed ;)
- The lava flow being very active now makes for perfect timing and the potential for very interesting memories

A possible itinerary would be:
Wed. - arrive KOA and stock up.
Thu. - relax, snorkel/dive the otherworldly Kona beaches, sunset and stargazing on Mauna Kea.
Fri. - explore the north side and prepare for Shabbos.
Sha. - Shabbos.
Sun. - Volcanoes National Park. Overnight on the Hilo side.
Mon. - explore the lush coast, Waipio Valley, etc. Leave from ITO.

Some variance maybe depending on whether you want to spend one night in a different place, one-way car issues, or if you'd rather do Mauna Kea towards the end (may work out better jet lag-wise).
Thank you so much Fishy!  You're super!!!
Would just note, we won't be doing any water sports. So that should loosen the proposed schedule a bit. (BTW, is the beach water pleasantly warm in the winter?)

Do you think I can stick in a day of Kauai? Or Maui?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 05, 2014, 12:53:27 AM
Thank you so much Fishy!  You're super!!!

Pleasure.

(BTW, is the beach water pleasantly warm in the winter?)

Yes.

Do you think I can stick in a day of Kauai? Or Maui?

You gotta be kidding :P.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on December 05, 2014, 12:58:17 AM
You gotta be kidding :P.
Nope! 8)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 05, 2014, 01:02:15 AM
Nope! 8)

Oy oy...

Sure you could; you could also spend 4 hours on each of the Hawaiian islands if you choose to. But gosh, why? You won't enjoy a single one if you're constantly running around.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yaalili on December 05, 2014, 01:23:06 AM
A possible itinerary would be:
Wed. - arrive KOA and stock up.
Thu. - relax, snorkel/dive the otherworldly Kona beaches, sunset and stargazing on Mauna Kea.
Fri. - explore the north side and prepare for Shabbos.
Sha. - Shabbos.
Sun. - Volcanoes National Park. Overnight on the Hilo side.
Mon. - explore the lush coast, Waipio Valley, etc. Leave from ITO.

So cool to have the trip all planned for you, Galitzyaner it's meant to be.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 05, 2014, 01:48:27 AM
So cool to have the trip all planned for you, Galitzyaner it's meant to be.

@Galitzyaner, you now owe me $20 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=47496.0).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Yaalili on December 05, 2014, 02:09:44 AM
@Galitzyaner, you now owe me $20 (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=47496.0).

Lol :D You still gotta find him the award space to get there..
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: nirc on December 05, 2014, 03:49:16 AM
Anyone have idea on how 2 PP can go from NYC - Hawaii (visit 2 islands) + hotel/apt rental leaving on Thurs 1/15 and returning on Sat night 1/24 for $2500-3000?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on December 05, 2014, 10:12:24 AM
Not that you're likely to find availability on either >:( >:( >:(...

Having flown both the A330 and 767 on my last trip (both DL, but I beleive that the UA 767 is pretty much identical) I could say that for me personally it would be worth it. The 767 just doesn't compare to the A330 in space, comfort, and privacy.

+1 absolutely worth the stopover for the A330. Even better imho to stop in ATL as opposed to West coast- short flight to ATL and then nice roomy seat all the way to HNL- flight felt short due to the comfort.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on December 05, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
Anyone have idea on how 2 PP can go from NYC - Hawaii (visit 2 islands) + hotel/apt rental leaving on Thurs 1/15 and returning on Sat night 1/24 for $2500-3000?

Go to a DDS and you'll learn how to do far more with far less.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: westman812 on December 05, 2014, 10:14:25 AM
Thank you so much Fishy!  You're super!!!
Would just note, we won't be doing any water sports. So that should loosen the proposed schedule a bit. (BTW, is the beach water pleasantly warm in the winter?)

Do you think I can stick in a day of Kauai? Or Maui?

Another option is to spend shabbos in HNL city then spend the rest up north in Turtle bay. Plenty of awesome activities up there and still get the Hawaiian feel.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: nirc on December 05, 2014, 10:40:47 AM
Go to a DDS and you'll learn how to do far more with far less.

if you're referring to a Dans Deal Seminar, there are 2 issues:
1) i live in chicago, which iirc never had 1 here.
2) i would like to leave in January so no time to start earning points.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 05, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
if you're referring to a Dans Deal Seminar, there are 2 issues:
1) i live in chicago, which iirc never had 1 here.
2) i would like to leave in January so no time to start earning points.
1) Is false.
2) Is debatable.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 05, 2014, 11:24:23 AM
Get the US card for your wife and yourself and you'll have 100k miles by next week.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 05, 2014, 11:24:58 AM
Get the US card for your wife and yourself and you'll have 100k miles by next week.
Bingo.
Same goes for hotels.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mochada on December 05, 2014, 11:58:01 AM
Ok ok well there were 10 men, but none of them were prepared to lain, so it wasn't so much of a "shul", let's say. :)

When I went to Chabad of Kauai, if there were 8 more men, we would've had a minyan ;)
From my discussions with the Rav, he doesn't have a strong presence yet since he had only moved there permanently a few months back.
A women showed up for "Torah" classes.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: nirc on December 05, 2014, 12:08:45 PM
1) Is false.
2) Is debatable.

i can't believe i missed out on it. when was it? do you have another scheduled?

at this time, i just want to spend cash and not use up points that can be saved for next years trip. can it be done with $3000?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: nirc on December 05, 2014, 12:10:06 PM
Get the US card for your wife and yourself and you'll have 100k miles by next week.

whats the US card?
will these 100k points expire?
is 100k enough for 2RT tickets + hotel?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 05, 2014, 12:19:49 PM
whats the US card?

- See DDMS yesterday.

will these 100k points expire?

- 18 months if no activity.

is 100k enough for 2RT tickets

- Plenty, if there's saver availability.

+ hotel?

- Probably not.

See above.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on December 05, 2014, 12:46:01 PM
whats the US card?
will these 100k points expire?
is 100k enough for 2RT tickets + hotel?

If you both get Hyatt card you can have 4 free nights for spending $1K each
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on December 05, 2014, 12:49:27 PM
The problem with spoonfeeding is that it never ends and this isn't the thread for it.  People need to make an effort on their own as well. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on December 05, 2014, 12:53:38 PM
If I happen to know something I have no problem sharing it. Although I generally agree that everyone should do their own research and put work into it, I think giving them a push in the right direction is just a nice thing to do. Why not share your knowledge if it doesn't take away from you? Its not always about being too lazy to read, some of this stuff is very confusing!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on December 05, 2014, 12:55:47 PM
That being said, I appreciate SFs response to the above question. SFs answer gave basic info pointing him in the right direction, while the guy who asked the questions still needs to do his own research.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: mechayamom on December 14, 2014, 03:25:07 AM
If you could pick any month out of the year, what would be the best weather to go to Hawaii in?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 24, 2014, 01:22:12 PM
I think I like talking about HI every few weeks even if I know it's still so far away...

Got my Psak recently and I'm going to try to avoid being in HI for Shabbos. Therefore 2 Q's:
1) I was told the Safek begins Thursday at Shkia and ends Motzai Shabbos - is that correct?
2) Assuming it is correct, I think the most practical route would be EWR-HNL on a Sunday and then continuing on that afternoon to LIH/OGG (most likely, based on TRs) and then on Thursday, catching the 1/2PM flights LIH/OGG-LAX, spend Shabbos in LA and go home on Sunday. So, is Sunday night + 3 days + Thursday morning enough to say the trip is worth doing? I know it's not ideal for HI, but it's also not terrible...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: E-MAN on December 24, 2014, 01:25:56 PM
I think I like talking about HI every few weeks even if I know it's still so far away...

Got my Psak recently and I'm going to try to avoid being in HI for Shabbos. Therefore 2 Q's:
1) I was told the Safek begins Thursday at Shkia and ends Motzai Shabbos - is that correct?
2) Assuming it is correct, I think the most practical route would be EWR-HNL on a Sunday and then continuing on that afternoon to LIH/OGG (most likely, based on TRs) and then on Thursday, catching the 1/2PM flights LIH/OGG-LAX, spend Shabbos in LA and go home on Sunday. So, is Sunday night + 3 days + Thursday morning enough to say the trip is worth doing? I know it's not ideal for HI, but it's also not terrible...
If you're not going to be there shabbos, what other choice do you have? I think you can do enough in that time to make it worthwhile.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on December 24, 2014, 01:56:37 PM
2) Assuming it is correct, I think the most practical route would be EWR-HNL on a Sunday and then continuing on that afternoon to LIH/OGG (most likely, based on TRs) and then on Thursday, catching the 1/2PM flights LIH/OGG-LAX, spend Shabbos in LA and go home on Sunday. So, is Sunday night + 3 days + Thursday morning enough to say the trip is worth doing? I know it's not ideal for HI, but it's also not terrible...
Exactly what we just did (except that we stayed in CA a little longer). Was awesome!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on December 24, 2014, 02:01:09 PM
I think I like talking about HI every few weeks even if I know it's still so far away...

Got my Psak recently and I'm going to try to avoid being in HI for Shabbos. Therefore 2 Q's:
1) I was told the Safek begins Thursday at Shkia and ends Motzai Shabbos - is that correct?
2) Assuming it is correct, I think the most practical route would be EWR-HNL on a Sunday and then continuing on that afternoon to LIH/OGG (most likely, based on TRs) and then on Thursday, catching the 1/2PM flights LIH/OGG-LAX, spend Shabbos in LA and go home on Sunday. So, is Sunday night + 3 days + Thursday morning enough to say the trip is worth doing? I know it's not ideal for HI, but it's also not terrible...
No option just to keep a 2-day shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on December 24, 2014, 02:03:24 PM
No option just to keep a 2-day shabbos?
My LOR said that if possible we should try to avoid it altogether as it raises some issues (lighting candles, etc.).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 24, 2014, 02:17:16 PM
Exactly what we just did (except that we stayed in CA a little longer). Was awesome!
Oh cool! Awaiting the TR... ;)

No option just to keep a 2-day shabbos?
Good Q. I didn't ask, but I imagine there are some issues like Joe pointed out. I'm also not sure how much time I can take off from work. Meaning, even if we stayed through Shabbos, we would still probably have to leave on Sunday, so how much did we gain by having 2 more Shabbos days in our itinerary?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on December 24, 2014, 02:26:55 PM
I think I like talking about HI every few weeks even if I know it's still so far away...

Got my Psak recently and I'm going to try to avoid being in HI for Shabbos. Therefore 2 Q's:
1) I was told the Safek begins Thursday at Shkia and ends Motzai Shabbos - is that correct?
2) Assuming it is correct, I think the most practical route would be EWR-HNL on a Sunday and then continuing on that afternoon to LIH/OGG (most likely, based on TRs) and then on Thursday, catching the 1/2PM flights LIH/OGG-LAX, spend Shabbos in LA and go home on Sunday. So, is Sunday night + 3 days + Thursday morning enough to say the trip is worth doing? I know it's not ideal for HI, but it's also not terrible...
Did something like that with my glitch tickets.

Flew Sunday morning, JFK-LAX-HNL-OGG, arriving at ~5PM. Flew OGG-HNL ~8AM, spent the day at Pearl Harbor, and was scheduled to leave at 3:20PM flying HNL-LAX-MSP-JFK (well before shkia). Then we missed our flight :-[, eventually making it onto HNL-SLC-JFK at 9:50PM (obviously well after even tzeis). The reason I decided to take that later flight instead of attempting to stay in HNL over Shabbos was that although my Rov told us we shouldn't stay over Shabbos (ie already from Thursday shkia), I knew that he told a friend who had stayed for Shabbos because of a work conference to only keep one day. So I figured it was more of a don't get yourself mixed up in these shailos type of thing, but b'shas hadchak he would pasken one day - which I confirmed with him after the fact. Then the plane from SLC turned back after half an hour due to a passenger that fainted/fell unconscious, and bottom line we got back to NY with just enough time to get ready for Shabbos. [The mussar haskel is obviously don't miss your flight ;D]

As far as going for that length of time, it was absolutely worth it. Obviously I wish I'd been able to go for longer. But #1 everyone says that no matter how long they go - it is Hawaii after all :D. And #2 I couldn't get more time off from work anyway.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 24, 2014, 02:30:50 PM
Did something like that with my glitch tickets.

Flew Sunday morning, JFK-LAX-HNL-OGG, arriving at ~5PM. Flew OGG-HNL ~8AM, spent the day at Pearl Harbor, and was scheduled to leave at 3:20PM flying HNL-LAX-MSP-JFK (well before shkia). Then we missed our flight :-[, eventually making it onto HNL-SLC-JFK at 9:50PM (obviously well after even tzeis). The reason I decided to take that later flight instead of attempting to stay in HNL over Shabbos was that although my Rov told us we shouldn't stay over Shabbos (ie already from Thursday shkia), I knew that he told a friend who had stayed for Shabbos because of a work conference to only keep one day. So I figured it was more of a don't get yourself mixed up in these shailos type of thing, but b'shas hadchak he would pasken one day - which I confirmed with him after the fact. Then the plane from SLC turned back after half an hour due to a passenger that fainted/fell unconscious, and bottom line we got back to NY with just enough time to get ready for Shabbos. [The mussar haskel is obviously don't miss your flight ;D]

As far as going for that length of time, it was absolutely worth it. Obviously I wish I'd been able to go for longer. But #1 everyone says that no matter how long they go - it is Hawaii after all :D. And #2 I couldn't get more time off from work anyway.
Thanks for the data point/TR! Quite a few stops on your trip - not sure I would be down for that, but good for you! I guess that is a good enough amount of time for now. IY"H more Sunday-Thursday trips in the future!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 24, 2014, 03:28:54 PM
My LOR said that if possible we should try to avoid it altogether as it raises some issues (lighting candles, etc.).

I’ve done it twice already. Of course it raises some issues, but I got my psak from one of the most well-known and respected dayanim alive today (I don’t know if it’s a good idea to post his name here; feel free to PM if you want to know).
 
Here’s what he said (obviously for informational purposes only; everyone should ask their own LOR):
 
- Keep Shabbos on Saturday, plus keep d’oreisas on Friday (meaning from sundown Thursday). (This is also paskened in Shevet HaLevy as well as other sources)
- D’rabonons could be done, but only if there’s a “need” – not just for the heck of it (for example amira l’akum is fine, but touching muktza just because is not).
- Light >25-hour yartzeit candles at the zman on Thursday without a brocha, but say “l’kovod Shabbos kodesh” on them.
- By the zman Friday cover your eyes and then make the regular brocha on the candles.
- Tefillin, davening, bentching, Kiddush, havdala, etc. should all be done as on a normal Friday and Shabbos.
 
Based on this here are some more data points, all discussed and confirmed with a different (read: easier to access) dayan:
 
- Carrying on the grounds/yard on Friday is allowed, since it’s considered a karmelis.
- Amira l’akum is allowed.
- Dry food (chicken, kugel) could be put onto a blech or hotplate Friday afternoon, as long as the flame or hot plate was already on (either since Thursday or on a timer).
- Wet foods (soup) should be put up Thursday afternoon only.
 
 
No option just to keep a 2-day shabbos?

Good Q. I didn't ask, but I imagine there are some issues like Joe pointed out. I'm also not sure how much time I can take off from work. Meaning, even if we stayed through Shabbos, we would still probably have to leave on Sunday, so how much did we gain by having 2 more Shabbos days in our itinerary?

Very highly recommended. Both times the long Shabbos was one of the top highlights of our trips. After a week of running around all day seeing and doing amazing things being forced to relax and do nothing for two days is absolute heaven. Take long walks (and even longer naps), read under trees dripping avocados, just let yourself melt into the Hawaiian air.
Finding the right place to stay over Shabbos is vital; a small hotel room isn’t a very good place to klutz around in for two days. This is where a great vacation rental really shines – look hard enough and you could find amazing gems at amazing prices.
I think in your case this would be a great itinerary – run around all week, do some hardcore relaxing for two days, than have a jam-packed Sunday (Road to Hana, BI volcano, Kauai north shore… you get the drift).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 24, 2014, 04:08:48 PM
I think in your case this would be a great itinerary – run around all week, do some hardcore relaxing for two days, than have a jam-packed Sunday (Road to Hana, BI volcano, Kauai north shore… you get the drift).
Thanks for that DETAILED post!

I definitely could discuss it with my Rav, but I have a feeling he wouldn't advise staying for 2-day Shabbos. He was basing his Psak off one of his Rebbeim who also holds one shouldn't go to Japan area over Shabbos ('shouldn't go' I assume as opposed to just keeping 2 days). He was once asked by a Talmid, "What would Rebbe say to a Talmid who plans on going to Japan over Shabbos in terms of how many days to keep?" to which he replied, "I wouldn't call that person my Talmid." lol

Either way, though, can't those Sunday activities you listed be part of Mon-Weds plans? I hear how your itinerary looks great, but if my Rav doesn't agree with 2 days, then it's not going to work out for me.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on December 24, 2014, 04:09:30 PM
Swimming on Friday I assume your posek assured?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 24, 2014, 04:18:53 PM
Either way, though, can't those Sunday activities you listed be part of Mon-Weds plans?

Sure they could; my example was just pointing out that you're haveone more day to do something amazing.

I hear how your itinerary looks great, but if my Rav doesn't agree with 2 days, then it's not going to work out for me.

Of course.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 24, 2014, 04:21:07 PM
Swimming on Friday I assume your posek assured?

Actually not, we did go swimming.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2014, 04:36:31 PM
Y'all just need to come to the dark chabad side.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 24, 2014, 04:37:38 PM
SF, now that you're in Monsey you have to get Rabbi Gancz recorded giving his kav hatairich shuir... 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sam28 on December 25, 2014, 01:32:53 PM
any place in Hawaii there is a ? if u have to keep shabbes 2 days ?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on December 25, 2014, 01:33:31 PM
Every place in Hawaii there is a ? if u have to keep shabbes 2 days ?
FTFY
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 25, 2014, 03:02:41 PM
Yes.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on December 28, 2014, 06:43:27 PM
I agree with SF that the few days to relax can really make the trip. Packing it all in and then rushing right home might still be amazing but will leave you so exhausted you will need another vacation!
Title: What are best options from west coast to hawaii
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 29, 2014, 03:30:35 AM
Looking for 5 tickets in June, what are my best options to find either reasonable airfare or mileage? Either Maui or Kauai

Thanks
Title: Re: What are best options from west coast to hawaii
Post by: Something Fishy on December 29, 2014, 07:51:40 AM
12.5K Avois.
Title: Re: What are best options from west coast to hawaii
Post by: tageed-lee on December 29, 2014, 07:56:39 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/22142
Title: Re: What are best options from west coast to hawaii
Post by: Dan on December 29, 2014, 09:01:47 AM
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/22142
Quite out of date...
Title: Re: What are best options from west coast to hawaii
Post by: Dr Moose on December 29, 2014, 10:07:48 AM
Quite out of date...
time for a new roundup then
Title: Re: What are best options from west coast to hawaii
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 29, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
Dan any help here??? Helping a Thaiholic see the light??  ;)

Title: Re: What are best options from west coast to hawaii
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 29, 2014, 01:26:47 PM
AA is showing 1 award available, are they likely to release more as I snatch them? (direct LAX - Kauai)
Title: Maui vs Kauai with young kids in June
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 30, 2014, 01:54:41 AM
Can someone who has been to both islands Pls comment

I'm looking to go for week in June with 4 kids ages 1-8

We would probably rent an apt/house (would love the Hyatt just don't see any practical ways of getting a decent sized room)

Which island is better suited for our needs:

We want quieter beaches, great scenery, some kids activities

We're not looking for packed beaches

Any help greatly appreciated
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 30, 2014, 12:07:47 PM
Can someone who has been to both islands Pls comment

I'm looking to go for week in June with 4 kids ages 1-8

We would probably rent an apt/house (would love the Hyatt just don't see any practical ways of getting a decent sized room)

Which island is better suited for our needs:

We want quieter beaches, great scenery, some kids activities

We're not looking for packed beaches

Any help greatly appreciated

Both Maui and Kauai are similar regarding the points you mentioned, but I'd give Kauai the edge for more diverse vacation rental options, better scenery, and more quiet beaches.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 30, 2014, 02:08:53 PM
Y'all just need to come to the dark chabad side.

Where's a link to the Chabad psak you got?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2014, 02:14:01 PM
Where's a link to the Chabad psak you got?
I spoke to Rabbi K from HNL.

For further reading, I've heard the Rosh has a long pilpul published on it and Rabbi Gancz from Monsey gives absolutely fascinating class on the topic.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on December 30, 2014, 02:38:06 PM
SF, now that you're in Monsey you have to get Rabbi Gancz recorded giving his kav hatairich shuir...

If I could find out when and where I may just go.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on December 30, 2014, 03:12:14 PM
Call him and arrange one :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ChikkyMonkey on December 30, 2014, 05:54:24 PM
What's bottom line?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on January 04, 2015, 10:49:13 PM
6 days on the ground (including Shabbas).

Maui or Kauai?

(I assume doing more than one island with only 6 days is ill-advised.)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 04, 2015, 10:50:07 PM
6 days on the ground (including Shabbas).

Maui or Kauai?

Kauai. Much more complete experience in such a short time.

(I assume doing more than one island with only 6 days is ill-advised.)

Absolutely.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on January 04, 2015, 10:59:13 PM
Kauai. Much more complete experience in such a short time.

Absolutely.

Excellente.

Anyone know what UA is supposed to charge for adding on a LIH-HNL segment?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 04, 2015, 11:16:08 PM
Excellente.

Anyone know what UA is supposed to charge for adding on a LIH-HNL segment?

6k.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on January 04, 2015, 11:25:29 PM
6k.

Man, UA is cheap. Can't throw that in an 300K award??
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2015, 07:36:06 AM
Just to be devil's advocate, arguably the Big Island has the most activities that can't be done with kids.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on January 05, 2015, 09:53:32 AM
Just to be devil's advocate, arguably the Big Island has the most activities that can't be done with kids.

Hmmm....I would definitely have to disagree with you there.  I've shlepped my kids all over the Big Island except to the lava.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2015, 09:57:00 AM
Hmmm....I would definitely have to disagree with you there.  I've shlepped my kids all over the Big Island except to the lava.
Lava hikes
Hot springs
Horseback riding or hiking Waipio
Mauna Kea Summit
Jumping off South Point
4WD/Hike to Green Sands Beach

among others things that can't be done well with small children...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 05, 2015, 10:00:38 AM
Lava hikes
Hot springs
Horseback riding or hiking Waipio
Mauna Kea Summit
Jumping off South Point
4WD/Hike to Green Sands Beach

among others things that can't be done well with small children...

- There's no lava to hike to at the moment really
- I remember reading that the hot springs have been closed officially. (Not sure if this is correct or not, though.)
- Adults shouldn't be jumping off South Point either ;)...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on January 05, 2015, 10:02:40 AM
Lava hikes Depending on the proximity of the lava, its possible
Hot springs
Horseback riding or hiking WaipioKids have been to Waipio in my buddies truck and we drove all around but yes, no hikes
Mauna Kea SummitNo summit but took them to the visitor center
Jumping off South Point Have you jumped off South Point? I wouldn't let my kids do that in either event even if they were older.
4WD/Hike to Green Sands BeachKids have been to Green Sand (driven in truck) and we all hiked down to the beach.

among others things that can't be done well with small children...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on January 05, 2015, 10:05:23 AM
- There's no lava to hike to at the moment really
- I remember reading that the hot springs have been closed officially. (Not sure if this is correct or not, though.)
- Adults shouldn't be jumping off South Point either ;)...

No lava at the moment only because the county is restricting people from hiking to it and in some instances they are arresting people that do.  I suppose they are concerned with looters.  Can't imagine its anything else because in years past all you might get is a fine or worst case scenario be banned.  But under certain circumstances you can fly over Pahoa to take in the action. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 05, 2015, 10:10:43 AM
No lava at the moment only because the county is restricting people from hiking to it and in some instances they are arresting people that do.  I suppose they are concerned with looters.  Can't imagine its anything else because in years past all you might get is a fine or worst case scenario be banned.  But under certain circumstances you can fly over Pahoa to take in the action.

Hence my weasel word "really". There may be lava, but not something you can hike to.

And then of course in February the situation could be completely different...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on January 05, 2015, 10:15:13 AM
Hence my weasel word "really". There may be lava, but not something you can hike to.

And then of course in February the situation could be completely different...

Unfortunately for me, that's unlikely based upon recent information.   I also heard that the lava flow is far away from the ocean.  So far I only hit the jackpot on one out of five (soon to be six) trips. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 05, 2015, 10:27:50 AM
Unfortunately for me, that's unlikely based upon recent information.   I also heard that the lava flow is far away from the ocean.  So far I only hit the jackpot on one out of five (soon to be six) trips.

The lava won't be hitting the ocean for a long time now. The June 27th flow is basically stalled, and still farfrom the ocean. Even if a new southern vent should open (unlikely) it would still be months before that flow could hit the ocean.

These couple of pages should give you all the info you need on the volcano, other than viewing options:

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/activity/kilaueastatus.php

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maps/

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/multimedia/
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on January 05, 2015, 10:29:48 AM
The lava won't be hitting the ocean for a long time now. The June 27th flow is basically stalled, and still farfrom the ocean. Even if a new southern vent should open (unlikely) it would still be months before that flow could hit the ocean.

These couple of pages should give you all the info you need on the volcano, other than viewing options:

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/activity/kilaueastatus.php

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/maps/

http://hvo.wr.usgs.gov/multimedia/

Those websites are for noobs.  I get reports straight from the horses mouth.   :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 05, 2015, 10:31:34 AM
I get reports straight from the horses mouth.   :)

Madam Pele :-X?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: GTR on January 05, 2015, 11:01:11 AM
Here's a couple questions for the HI veterans.

We're booked in for 8 nights in HI.  We've already booked the 4 back end nights in a very nice hotel in Maui and we're trying to decide what to do with the first 4 nights.  We're a fairly outdoorsy couple who likes to hike, though we both don't really enjoy watersports (scuba, snorkel, etc).  We've never been to HI and while we're likely to return (especially upon discovering how easy award airfare is to achieve) but with starting a family on the horizon i imagine returning might be in a number of years. I'm considering three different itineraries for the first four nights and want to know if anyone has any input:

1:  Fly directly to OGG upon landing in HNL and stay 4 days in a 4*ish hotel likely in Lahaina area.  This itinerary would likely involve a bus/limo ride to Hana with a helicopter back on the day we switched accommodation to Wailea.

2: Stay in Oahu in a 5*ish accommodation for two nights before flying to OGG and driving to Hana for a two night stay, driving back to Wailea for our back half 4 nights.

3: Fly directly to Kauai upon landing in HNL for a 4 night stay in a 4.5*ish hotel followed by flight to OGG and then a stay in Wailea.

Obvi, this determination will depend on what we think we can "handle" in terms of active/relaxing activity but since so many of y'all are seasoned HI travelers I thought I'd ask for input.  Thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 05, 2015, 11:04:23 AM
Hike to Kalalau and spend the 4 nights camping out there :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 05, 2015, 11:11:37 AM
This itinerary would likely involve a bus/limo ride to Hana

What a terrible waste, especially considering

We're a fairly outdoorsy couple who likes to hike

You'd be missing out on the entire point of the Road to Hana - the slow, relaxing drive, stopping at random places and losing yourself. Instead you'd be confined to a bus full of strangers and stop only at the main tourists sites without the ability to take a hike or do something cool.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 05, 2015, 11:16:25 AM
Have any of the HI-pros figured out an award hidden city to find more avail on EWR-HNL?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on January 05, 2015, 11:17:26 AM
Have any of the HI-pros figured out an award hidden city to find more avail on EWR-HNL?

If they did they would never post it here.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: GTR on January 05, 2015, 11:18:35 AM
Thanks Fishy, that's also a consideration.  I suppose another option would be 3 nights in Lahaina and one night in Hana (or 2 and 2).  As a non-driver I wanted to offer my wife who is the driver options that didn't include her driving all day (out and back same day).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 05, 2015, 11:24:19 AM
If they did they would never post it here.
I have found that posting scandalous Q's without asking for a PM sometimes leads to a PM. :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 05, 2015, 11:34:42 AM
Thanks Fishy, that's also a consideration.  I suppose another option would be 3 nights in Lahaina and one night in Hana (or 2 and 2).  As a non-driver I wanted to offer my wife who is the driver options that didn't include her driving all day (out and back same day).

No need for two nights in Hana, one is perfect. If you do that the driving is also far easier.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: GTR on January 05, 2015, 11:47:39 AM
Cool.  Interesting.  Will definitely consider 3 nights in Lahaina and one overnight in Hana.  My wife seems to be on board with that too.

Would you prefer that and all it entails to 4 nights in Kauai?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 05, 2015, 11:56:43 AM
Cool.  Interesting.  Will definitely consider 3 nights in Lahaina and one overnight in Hana.  My wife seems to be on board with that too.

Would you prefer that and all it entails to 4 nights in Kauai?
If you decide not to go to Kauai on this trip, consider working in time in HNL for Pearl Harbor. It doesn't have to be an overnight stay, though depending on your itinerary it might be necessary to stay the night. I did it on the way back from Maui, but it sounds like your 'back half' is all set, so maybe when you arrive is better. You'll still have plenty of time in Maui, especially if you're not planning on working in any water sports.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: off again! on January 17, 2015, 02:52:53 PM
Is it worth going to Hawaii for a couple days with a 2 1/2 month old baby? if yes-which is the best place to go to? Thank in advance!!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 19, 2015, 12:31:31 AM
Is there any way to get gas at Costco without a Costco membership?

TIA!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on January 19, 2015, 07:01:01 AM
Is there any way to get gas at Costco without a Costco membership?

TIA!
Bump

They're over dollar a cheaper per gallon than anyone else.
Can someone please help.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on January 19, 2015, 08:06:55 AM
Always carry a Costco cash card!

Also Costco memberships are fully refundable anywhere ;)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on January 19, 2015, 09:23:11 AM
Always carry a Costco cash card!

Also Costco memberships are fully refundable anywhere ;)
+1. I had a cash card from the amex promo, my wife went in to a Costco with my mother (who has a membership) to fill it before we went to Hawaii. Naturally she put on less than I asked and we ended up having to go to a second gas station to top off ::)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 19, 2015, 12:16:18 PM
Discussion anywhere of the options of booking inter-island flights?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 19, 2015, 12:24:56 PM
Discussion anywhere of the options of booking inter-island flights?

Individual island wikis.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 19, 2015, 12:38:04 PM
Individual island wikis.

Updated info and added to this thread's wiki as well.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 19, 2015, 01:17:28 PM
Updated info and added to this thread's wiki as well.
Amazing! I think it makes a lot of sense for the info to be in this wiki, and I appreciate that you updated the info!

So, none of those airlines are in *A, correct? Can't use M&M to book the last leg if coming from the mainland to HNL on UA via M&M and then flying one of these airlines to an individual island?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ah on January 26, 2015, 09:24:50 PM
which island has the best zip lining? helicopter ride?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 26, 2015, 09:42:43 PM
which island has the best zip lining? helicopter ride?

Dunno about zip lining but helicopter is definitely Kauai.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ah on January 26, 2015, 09:45:47 PM
Dunno about zip lining but helicopter is definitely Kauai.
thanks! those are my 2 must do's if i go, hoping for june...anyone know about zip lining?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 26, 2015, 09:47:35 PM
thanks! those are my 2 must do's if i go, hoping for june...anyone know about zip lining?

Kauai has great zip lining too, I just don't know if they're the best in the islands or not.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: ah on January 26, 2015, 09:48:29 PM
Kauai has great zip lining too, I just don't know if they're the best in the islands or not.
amazing, thanks!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 26, 2015, 09:56:56 PM
This is EWR-HNL on UA for the summer. Is this normal?
(http://i.imgur.com/uYk8OKA.png) (http://i.imgur.com/OA472mo.png)
I can only go from mid-June through mid-August. Is my only option to wait until a week or two out and hope that something opens up?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on January 26, 2015, 10:03:56 PM
This is EWR-HNL on UA for the summer. Is this normal?

No, there's usually less availability :'(
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 26, 2015, 10:05:58 PM
No, there's usually less availability :'(
Waaaa
Am I silly that I'm only looking for J direct? Should I just give up on J and/or direct?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on January 26, 2015, 10:49:20 PM
Waaaa
Am I silly that I'm only looking for J direct? Should I just give up on J and/or direct?
I'd do plan B.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on January 26, 2015, 11:01:20 PM
I'd do plan B.
Except that I want to use LH miles. And even with UA, there's no Saver economy on that calendar. :(
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 09:38:01 AM
I am planning a possible trip for June. I can leave go on a sunday but have to be back on the following tuesday which means leaving on monday. So basically getting in sunday night and leaving the following monday afternoon. One island or two?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 02, 2015, 09:50:32 AM
I am planning a possible trip for June. I can leave go on a sunday but have to be back on the following tuesday which means leaving on monday. So basically getting in sunday night and leaving the following monday afternoon. One island or two?

I've done this schedule twice and did two islands both times.

I would suggest Kauai and the BI for a trip like this.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on February 02, 2015, 09:51:53 AM
I am planning a possible trip for June. I can leave go on a sunday but have to be back on the following tuesday which means leaving on monday. So basically getting in sunday night and leaving the following monday afternoon. One island or two?
You have flights? I'm finding availability to be nonexistent for most of June.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 09:53:28 AM
You have flights? I'm finding availability to be nonexistent for most of June.
Eco or biz?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 09:53:52 AM
I've done this schedule twice and did two islands both times.

I would suggest Kauai and the BI for a trip like this.
Kauai over Maui?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 02, 2015, 09:55:26 AM
Kauai over Maui?

Easier to fully cover in under a week IME.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 09:56:07 AM
Easier to fully cover in under a week IME.
got it thanks. Will take that under consideration.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on February 02, 2015, 10:07:44 AM
Eco or biz?
I want J but I have been searching in general and Saver space is not there in any class.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 10:09:56 AM
Easier to fully cover in under a week IME.
so how many days in each would you recommend?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 10:11:42 AM
I want J but I have been searching in general and Saver space is not there in any class.
I use mi FIL GS status for much expanded availability. But still all i have found is nyc-lax-ogg hnl-ewr in ECO but i was only looking in eco for right now, but might use some of his upgrades as well. I have way more luck using miles than other people because of his status.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 02, 2015, 10:21:19 AM
so how many days in each would you recommend?

I switched from Kauai to TBI Thursday morning. If you keep one day Shabbos, Friday morning would probably be the better option.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 10:22:29 AM
I switched from Kauai to TBI Thursday morning. If you keep one day Shabbos, Friday morning would probably be the better option.
sp basically just have part of friday, sunday and part of Monday on the big island (obviously shabbos also)?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 02, 2015, 10:33:56 AM
I'd just stay on 1 island unless this is a once in a decade trip.
Plenty to do with a full week on any island.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 10:35:24 AM
I'd just stay on 1 island unless this is a once in a decade trip.
Plenty to do with a full week on any island.
and which island would you recommend?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 02, 2015, 10:40:04 AM
sp basically just have part of friday, sunday and part of Monday on the big island (obviously shabbos also)?

Right. Just enough time to see Mauna Kea and the volcano.

Also, Monday could be more or less a full day - there are lots of flight options in the 9-10 pm range.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 02, 2015, 10:41:08 AM
Plenty to do with a full week on any island.


Absolutely. But if you're going all the way there you may as well chap arein the volcano.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 02, 2015, 11:10:14 AM
Are you doing 1 or 2 days shabbos?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 11:12:13 AM
Are you doing 1 or 2 days shabbos?
I believe 1.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 02, 2015, 11:13:38 AM
I'd check that before making plans.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 11:14:21 AM
I'd check that before making plans.
everything right now is tentative so....
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 02, 2015, 11:14:32 AM
I'd check that before making plans.
if the hotel is nice you can do 2 days and not miss a beat
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 11:15:56 AM
if the hotel is nice you can do 2 days and not miss a beat
but then cant fly on friday, no?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 02, 2015, 11:16:13 AM
but then cant fly on friday, no?
nor thursday night
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 02, 2015, 11:18:35 AM
Not about the hotel, its about how to plan the islands and flights.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 02, 2015, 11:19:53 AM
Not about the hotel, its about how to plan the islands and flights.
ya so switch islands pre thursday night
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 02, 2015, 11:22:52 AM
Or just don't switch.
Arriving Sunday night and leaving Thursday morning isn't all that ideal.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 02, 2015, 11:24:18 AM
Or just don't switch.
Arriving Sunday night and leaving Thursday morning isn't all that ideal.
i have never been to hawaii so ill leave the advising to you
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 02, 2015, 11:24:46 AM
Or just don't switch.
Arriving Sunday night and leaving Thursday morning isn't all that ideal.
I will be double checking dont worry. But assuming I am holding one day what would you recommend?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 03, 2015, 08:40:46 AM
Bump
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 03, 2015, 09:51:43 AM
We're doing LIH for 6 nights. Not gonna mess around with two islands, and from what I've read LIH is where it's at.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 09:55:35 AM
from what I've read LIH is where it's at.
Highly debatable.  Ask 4 people and you will probably get 4 responses on which island is best. It's like asking which credit card is best.

Just depends on what you like to do, each island is quite unique.

That being said, unless you have 10 days I'd generally advise sticking to 1 island, though if you have a burning desire to see a volcano then 1 or 2 nights on the BI in addition to another island can make sense.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 03, 2015, 10:05:03 AM
so if only one island OGG or LIH? Ahhh decisions
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 10:06:32 AM
Read through the DDMS links in the Wiki and I'd imagine you'd figure it out.

You won't go wrong with either.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on February 03, 2015, 11:23:50 AM
so if only one island OGG or LIH? Ahhh decisions
From what I've read it seems that OGG has more to do. If I were you, I'd either do LIH & TBI, or OGG (and maybe throw in LNY).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 11:28:01 AM
From what I've read it seems that OGG has more to do.
-1.
Just depends on what you like doing.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on February 03, 2015, 11:37:12 AM
-1.
Just depends on what you like doing.
I get that you can spend a month on each island and still not see everything it has to offer, but I was referring to the general must-do's. Doesn't OGG take a day or two longer?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 11:39:16 AM
NIMHO.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 03, 2015, 11:44:48 AM
I think a longer stay on OGG is worth it just for the luxury of doing the RTH in two days.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 11:47:28 AM
I think a longer stay on OGG is worth it just for the luxury of doing the RTH in two days.
Just remember that 2 days on RTH means either bringing your stuff with you which leaves you vulnerable to break-ins that are common on the RTH. Or it means paying for 2 accommodations for a night and still bringing some stuff with you on the RTH.

Either way you can easily spend a week on any Hawaiian Island and have plenty to do.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 03, 2015, 11:54:40 AM
Just remember that 2 days on RTH means either bringing your stuff with you which leaves you vulnerable to break-ins that are common on the RTH. Or it means paying for 2 accommodations for a night and still bringing some stuff with you on the RTH.

-1. Our host was more than happy to let us keep our stuff in her cottage once we left. Many hotels will also store your luggage for you.

Additionally, there are a couple of storage places near the airport which will rent you a unit for something like $40-50 a night. Many people have used them to keep their luggage while they went off to Hana.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 11:57:59 AM
Still going to have suitcases of stuff with you.  Esp with kids.
I prefer to drive RTH without anything and just leave the doors unlocked, but to each their own. 

I've done the drive 3 times, so whatever I miss I make up the next time.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 03, 2015, 12:07:25 PM
Still going to have suitcases of stuff with you.  Esp with kids.
I prefer to drive RTH without anything and just leave the doors unlocked, but to each their own. 

I've done the drive 3 times, so whatever I miss I make up the next time.


 We don't all have that luxury  :)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 12:08:26 PM

 We don't all have that luxury  :)
Once you go once you'll want to return as well.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 03, 2015, 12:12:16 PM
I don't doubt that! But as you have been saying lately, with kids it's much harder to find the time!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 12:16:29 PM
Indeed.
I haven't done the RTH post-kids, all 3 times were 2008-2010.

Did 2 trips to LIH/OGG with kids, but very different types of trips.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 03, 2015, 12:27:05 PM
Yea I am planning on going with a baby. But I am planning this trip with friends of ours who also have a kid so we can switch off babysitting if there are some things we want to do without kids.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 03, 2015, 12:28:08 PM
Babies under 1 are generally more portable
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 03, 2015, 12:30:29 PM
Yea I am planning on going with a baby. But I am planning this trip with friends of ours who also have a kid so we can switch off babysitting if there are some things we want to do without kids.
beshaa tova?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 12:31:17 PM
Babies under 1 are generally more portable
True, but frankly most of the stuff you're reading about isn't doable with babies/kids.

Forget about Olivine Pools, Blowhole, and Molokini. 
RTH is doable but will be really tough with most kids.

Many babies hate the sand, so at least bring along something like this, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0035W26BQ/?tag=cl03f-20
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 03, 2015, 12:34:26 PM
I can't tell you how many times I have said to my husband that I wish I discovered DD before we had kids
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: dealfinder85 on February 03, 2015, 12:35:28 PM
I can't tell you how many times I thought to myself that I wish I discovered DD before starting to work
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 03, 2015, 12:37:52 PM



that too

I don't get how people can get away so often, unless you are Dan
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 03, 2015, 12:38:43 PM
Many babies hate the sand

My daughter was happy to eat as much beach as she could stuff into her mouth ;D

Chillin' at Honomalino Bay:

(http://imageshack.us/a/img210/7333/blissg.jpg)
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 12:39:27 PM
My daughter was happy to eat as much beach as she could stuff into her mouth ;D
Well, yes. Either they hate it or think it's delicious :D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 03, 2015, 12:39:51 PM
Wow adorable!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 12:40:04 PM
I don't get how people can get away so often, unless you are Dan
Compared to AJK I'm practically a shut-in.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 03, 2015, 12:40:56 PM
True, but frankly most of the stuff you're reading about isn't doable with babies/kids.

Forget about Olivine Pools, Blowhole, and Molokini. 
RTH is doable but will be really tough with most kids.

Many babies hate the sand, so at least bring along something like this, http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0035W26BQ/?tag=cl03f-20
I haven't done my research yet but why are those things not doable with a baby?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 12:44:20 PM
Olivine Pools requires a hike that's difficult for most adults.

Molokini is snorkeling, haven't met too many babies capable of that :D

RTH is a 12 hour marathon that can be especially nauseating in the back seat.  Enough to mess with even good kids that don't need several naps.

Etc.

Don't have parents/in-laws that can babysit for 5 days?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 03, 2015, 12:47:46 PM
Nope but that's part of the reason we are going with friends. Some days we will just relax and babysit their kid and some days they will babysit ours.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 03, 2015, 03:48:26 PM
So on that note would you have a strong preference to OGG or LIH now that you know I will have a baby with me?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 03, 2015, 05:08:20 PM
Just came back from another awesome BI trip.  UA forgot our kosher meals on the F return.  What is the best way to approach them to get a partial refund?  TIA.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on February 03, 2015, 05:12:36 PM
Just came back from another awesome BI trip.  UA forgot our kosher meals on the F return.  What is the best way to approach them to get a partial refund?  TIA.
Hence, why you'll have 4 opinions when asking which island is best.

Try here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13574
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 03, 2015, 05:14:51 PM
Hence, why you'll have 4 opinions when asking which island is best.

Try here: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=13574

Thanks but perhaps I was not specific enough in my question - call, email?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 03, 2015, 05:18:16 PM
Just came back from another awesome BI trip.  UA forgot our kosher meals on the F return.  What is the best way to approach them to get a partial refund?  TIA.

UA offers KSML on UA J to HNL?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Joe4007 on February 03, 2015, 05:22:07 PM
UA offers KSML on UA J to HNL?
Yes.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 03, 2015, 05:24:03 PM
UA offers KSML on UA J to HNL?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24510.msg1009621#msg1009621
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 03, 2015, 05:29:41 PM
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24510.msg1009621#msg1009621

TY
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on February 03, 2015, 10:55:36 PM
Just came back from another awesome BI trip.  UA forgot our kosher meals on the F return.  What is the best way to approach them to get a partial refund?  TIA.
hey welcome back to slushy Brooklyn, had the same story on our return!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 04, 2015, 09:16:34 AM
So at least for right now I am booked to OGG from june 21-29. That could change but at least we have something booked.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 09:58:58 AM
Just came back from another awesome BI trip.  UA forgot our kosher meals on the F return.  What is the best way to approach them to get a partial refund?  TIA.

Where's the TR
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 04, 2015, 10:29:11 AM
Where's the TR

Dude let the guy unpack :P
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 10:52:41 AM
I meant that I would love to see his TR not that he has to do it now
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Emkay on February 04, 2015, 11:03:50 AM


not that he has to do it now

Though it would be nice
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 11:04:43 AM
I meant that I would love to see his TR not that he has to do it now

I'll do a trip report soon BH.  First I have to compile and edit my gopro videos - I have videos of our helicopter charter over the volcano, snorkeling by Capt' Cook Monument, and snorkeling with Manta Rays.  Everytime I think I can't beat the past years BI trip I somehow manage to make it better.   :)  In the meantime you can see last years BI trip report here:

http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1646.195

Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Emkay on February 04, 2015, 11:06:20 AM


BI

What's BI?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 11:06:53 AM

What's BI?

Big Island.  Despite what some others say, its the only Hawaiian Island that really matters.   ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Emkay on February 04, 2015, 11:19:23 AM
Big Island.  Despite what some others say, its the only Hawaiian Island that really matters.   ;D ;D ;D
Assuming you have been on the others?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 11:23:52 AM
Assuming you have been on the others?

I've been to Kauai.  DW has been to Maui and Kauai.  Whenever I think about going to another island the BI just keeps pulling me back.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on February 04, 2015, 11:42:35 AM
I've been to Kauai.  DW has been to Maui and Kauai.  Whenever I think about going to another island the BI just keeps pulling me back.
Any more details as to why?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 11:48:30 AM
Any more details as to why?

I just found a place that I love more than any other place on this planet.  There are many reasons why I love the BI.  It has tremendous variety - active lava flows and the volcano - when there is surface flow you can walk right up to it - which I was able to do a few years back (there are other amazing lava viewing opportunities which I can't discuss in an open forum), amazing black/green/white sand beaches with awesome snorkeling opportunities, and rain forests. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 11:52:03 AM
Hmmmmm I have been waiting for someone to create a wiki for BI and it seems you are an excellent candidate ...... Specifically want to see details of things to do. I have the revealed book but it's so much information.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 11:53:47 AM
Hmmmmm I have been waiting for someone to create a wiki for BI and it seems you are an excellent candidate ...... Specifically want to see details of things to do. I have the revealed book but it's so much information.

The revealed book is great but you won't find some of the things I do in it for a variety of reasons.   ;D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 11:54:14 AM
This is getting interesting ....
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2015, 12:03:59 PM
Not sure what harm there is in posting that there are people (without naming names) that will take you up close and personal to see the volcanoes, among other things.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 12:06:08 PM
Not sure what harm there is in posting that there are people (without naming names) that will take you up close and personal to see the volcanoes, among other things.

If you manage to find such people and decide to post that information in a public forum, go ahead.  You won't get that info from me.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 12:07:18 PM
I would imagine that those people do not want to be easily found
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Emkay on February 04, 2015, 12:15:39 PM
I would imagine that those people do not want to be easily found
Why not? Business is business
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 04, 2015, 12:17:31 PM
Why not? Business is business
unless it illegal
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 12:18:25 PM
Why not? Business is business

Some of the stuff I do is not exactly, shall we say, legal.  And yes, there is some risk involved.  That being said, depending on WHO asks, I may be amenable to providing info.  If you have pissed me off before, do not even think of asking me for advice or help.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2015, 12:43:41 PM
If you manage to find such people and decide to post that information in a public forum, go ahead.  You won't get that info from me.

I know of such people. And have friends who know of many more.

My point is that there is no need for the cloak and dagger nonsense, especially so when one can simply "reveal" that this activity exists, and not any specific individual(s).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2015, 12:46:35 PM
Some of the stuff I do is not exactly, shall we say, legal.  And yes, there is some risk involved.  That being said, depending on WHO asks, I may be amenable to providing info.  If you have pissed me off before, do not even think of asking me for advice or help.

Way to foster a collegial community. 

Anyone who gets turned down by OP for the reason stated can feel free to PM me directly.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 12:50:08 PM
Way to foster a collegial community. 

Anyone who gets turned down by OP for the reason stated can feel free to PM me directly.

Yes, you (of all people) is Mr. Collegial.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2015, 12:56:18 PM
Yes, you (of all people) is are Mr. Collegial.

FTFY

I'm not going to get into a pissing match with you, but I don't think anyone would question my previous and continued contributions to this forum.

Like I said, anyone who has dared "piss off" the OP, and gets turned down because of that audacity, feel free to PM me directly.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 12:58:55 PM
I'm happy to help most folks here.  Just not you.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 04, 2015, 01:03:02 PM
I'm happy to help most folks here.  Just not you.
Wow someone is being extra bitter today.........
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 01:03:51 PM
Wow someone is being extra bitter today.........

Not at all.  I am super happy.  I just got back from 8 days in paradise.  Couldn't ask for more.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2015, 01:06:40 PM
I'm happy to help most folks here.  Just not you.

(http://i.gyazo.com/7131b124d183f5b7317a27e4f8ca0621.png)

You're apparently not following the convo.  This has nothing to do with me, but I'm not sure you're getting that fact.

Why would I be asking you for the info that I've already been offering to provide to who may also have had the nerve to upset His Highness?

Wow someone is being extra bitter today.........

I didn't believe it when I read the study, but some people returning from vacation apparently experience similar symptoms as do drug addicts on their way down from a high.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 01:08:30 PM
(http://i.gyazo.com/7131b124d183f5b7317a27e4f8ca0621.png)

You're apparently not following the convo.  This has nothing to do with me, but I'm not sure you're getting that fact.

Why would I be asking you for the info that I've already been offering to provide to who may also have had the nerve to upset His Highness?

I heard you.  Good luck getting the access I have gotten.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 01:12:24 PM
Sorry to intrude on this war, but PB how many days of shabbos did you keep (if any)?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: myb821 on February 04, 2015, 01:12:46 PM
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You're apparently not following the convo.  This has nothing to do with me, but I'm not sure you're getting that fact.

Why would I be asking you for the info that I've already been offering to provide to who may also have had the nerve to upset His Highness?

I didn't believe it when I read the study, but some people returning from vacation apparently experience similar symptoms as do drug addicts on their way down from a high.
I heard you.  Good luck getting the access I have gotten.
apparently he is holier-than-thou
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 04, 2015, 01:13:22 PM
I heard you.  Good luck getting the access I have gotten.

Oh goodie, the cloak and dagger stuff continues.  Ladies and gents, he has exclusive information for unprecedented access to some possibly <gasp> illegal things.

Dude, it's time for some more happy pills. Everyone else here just wants to talk vacation, not perpetuate meaningless grudges.

And with that, I'm out. Feel free to have the last word.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 01:14:11 PM
Oh goodie, the cloak and dagger stuff continues.  Ladies and gents, he has exclusive information for unprecedented access to some possible <gasp> illegal things.

Dude, it's time for some more happy pills.

Can I borrow some of your happy pills?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 04, 2015, 01:23:37 PM
Popcorn anyone?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Super Speed on February 04, 2015, 01:45:33 PM
I just put mine away. :D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: PBaruch on February 04, 2015, 01:48:02 PM
Sorry to intrude on this war, but PB how many days of shabbos did you keep (if any)?

We keep one day. 
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 03:44:12 PM
Thank you SomethingFishy, Dan, and everyone else here for all your help with trip planning. Winded up going to Kauai, Big Island, and then a bit of HNL, all in the small time-frame I had.
Frankly, I still don't understand why people think Hawaii is the prettiest place on earth, but maybe I'm just an outlier, or I missed the best parts?, dunno.
So you'll probably tell me I didn't spend your "minimum" time "required" to spend on an island?! Eh. I'm not running back.
Don't get me wrong, it's very pretty, but... there is prettier.
I do agree that the air in Kauai is beyond description.

You may think I'm off my rocker, but IMHO beaches in the Caribbean (and for that matter Miami :o ) are nicer than Hawaii's.
It boggles my mind how Hapuna Beach can be rated one of the nicest beaches in the world.
 
Only KOA and HNL have a minyan on shabbos.
I had cousins that went this summer and went to KOA for Shabbos and there wasn't much of a Minyan. My cousin ended up "laining" for them because there was no one else to do it.
Having gone in the winter (to KOA), I can now tell you that he didn't have a minyan (daytime, nighttime there was a minyan) in the winter either (at least the week I went).

Not sure how your cousins felt, but I came away from this shul very disappointed (no, not because he didn't have a minyan).
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on February 08, 2015, 03:46:18 PM
How long did you go for?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 03:48:15 PM
How long did you go for?
Was there for ~5 days.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on February 08, 2015, 03:50:28 PM
Including shabbos? And you went to KOA LIH and HNL? And you weren't impressed? I'm shocked
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 08, 2015, 03:54:18 PM
Write a trip report and we'll tell you what you did wrong ;)...
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 03:57:37 PM
Including shabbos? And you went to KOA LIH and HNL? And you weren't impressed? I'm shocked
I know. I was too! :D
I know some here will think I'm crazy, but there's really not a doubt in my mind.
I really had high expectations. And I've been around the world somewhat...'

I can't wait to go to Banff, cuz that really looks neat!
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on February 08, 2015, 03:59:30 PM
You mean the inside if the airport/airplane isn't prettier in Hawaii?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 04:14:49 PM
Write a trip report and we'll tell you what your did wrong ;)...
Of course I must have did something wrong, I knew it ;D .

Was Waimea nice? Yes. Are the volcanos cool? Super cool! Was Mona Kea nice? Gorgeous! Was Waipio valley lookout nice? Yes. Do Hawaii fruits taste good? Yum!

But I still hold by my opinion overall.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 04:18:09 PM
You mean the inside if the airport/airplane isn't prettier in Hawaii?
Ha ha! Went around quite a lot.

But actually, that does bring to mind... Why does nobody talk about those airports (besides HNL)? Just for that it was worth going! ;) They're so awesome!!

The Hawaiian Islands are very nice, I just wouldn't rate them number one.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MC on February 08, 2015, 04:19:53 PM
Ha ha! Went around quite a lot.

But actually, that does bring to mind... Why does nobody talk about those airports (besides HNL)? Just for that it was worth going! ;) They're so awesome!!
LIH was far from awesome.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 04:21:41 PM
LIH was far from awesome.
Why?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: MC on February 08, 2015, 04:23:06 PM
Why?
Lol, the day we left was unseasonably hot and humid. I would have been quite happy with an indoor airport at that point.
But I do hear the appeal.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 04:27:36 PM
Lol, the day we left was unseasonably hot and humid. I would have been quite happy with an indoor airport at that point.
But I do hear the appeal.
I get you. I asked the employees what they do in bad weather (I thought they perhaps have some walls that come down or something), and they say they just live with it.
I guess it's only fun in nice weather :) .
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: 3yummyboys on February 08, 2015, 05:56:49 PM
Including shabbos? And you went to KOA LIH and HNL? And you weren't impressed? I'm shocked

You spent 5 days including shabbos on 3 islands? How did you do anything?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Dan on February 08, 2015, 06:25:46 PM
You spent 5 days including shabbos on 3 islands? How did you do anything?
No offense, but תפשת מרובה לא תפשת
A big part of the beauty is allowing it to seep into your east coast bones.  3 islands in 4 days is just foolishness.  Trying to go to more than 1 island in that time period is a critical error.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on February 08, 2015, 09:11:16 PM

Thank you SomethingFishy, Dan, and everyone else here for all your help with trip planning. Winded up going to Kauai, Big Island, and then a bit of HNL, all in the small time-frame I had.
Frankly, I still don't understand why people think Hawaii is the prettiest place on earth, but maybe I'm just an outlier, or I missed the best parts?, dunno.
So you'll probably tell me I didn't spend your "minimum" time "required" to spend on an island?! Eh. I'm not running back.
Don't get me wrong, it's very pretty, but... there is prettier.
I do agree that the air in Kauai is beyond description.

You may think I'm off my rocker, but IMHO beaches in the Caribbean (and for that matter Miami :o ) are nicer than Hawaii's.
It boggles my mind how Hapuna Beach can be rated one of the nicest beaches in the world.
  Having gone in the winter (to KOA), I can now tell you that he didn't have a minyan (daytime, nighttime there was a minyan) in the winter either (at least the week I went).

Not sure how your cousins felt, but I came away from this shul very disappointed (no, not because he didn't have a minyan).
i think you're off your rocker.
How did you think you were going to enjoy yourself rushing around like that

Having just come back from my own 10 day trip to LIH-KOA, it's hard to put into words how amazing the islands are,

& Shabbos with Rabbi Chaz was also super nice
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: TimT on February 08, 2015, 09:23:04 PM
Having just come back from my own 10 day trip to LIH-KOA, it's hard to put into words how amazing the islands are,
Does that mean no TR ? :(
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Galitzyaner on February 08, 2015, 11:15:36 PM
You spent 5 days including shabbos on 3 islands? How did you do anything?
How did you think you were going to enjoy yourself rushing around like that
We actually didn't rush at all, we took our time at all sites. Though just keep in mind we didn't do any water sports.
We drove everywhere very leisurely, stopping at interesting sights etc.
A big part of the beauty is allowing it to seep into your east coast bones.
IMHO, if someone goes to a place and is in awe of it's beauty -unless you're rushing somewhere- you usually by default stick around a gaze at the beauty of where you are standing until you feel you have fully 'swallowed' and 'digested' the wondrous marvels of nature, at which point you can get back into your car and continue on your journey.
That is how I ventured around. So, I'm not exactly sure what we needed to do to allow it to "seep in".
If you want to say, I didn't see this and this place and ahah -that's why you I didn't appreciate it as much, meileh. But I honestly think I allowed the beauty to seep in.

No offense, but תפשת מרובה לא תפשת
3 islands in 4 days is just foolishness.  Trying to go to more than 1 island in that time period is a critical error.
Well not everyone has the ability to always at all times of year just pick themselves up and go on long vacations -for what ever the reasons may be.
And there comes a point where one must decide, I either get a half a loaf now, or I don't know when the next opportunity will come.
I obviously did't cover all the 3 from top to bottom, but did get in some of the biggest highlights.
And as I wrote earlier, HNL we just did a bit.
& Shabbos with Rabbi Chaz was also super nice
I'm glad you enjoyed. But our experience was super ugly. :-X   I guess it's a hit or miss. ::)
Having just come back from my own 10 day trip to LIH-KOA, it's hard to put into words how amazing the islands are,
Agree. But I still don't think it's a number one. Hashem created a very large universe. The list of beautiful places is very long.
i think you're off your rocker.
It's ok. I knew that's coming. As predicted :D .
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 08, 2015, 11:21:46 PM
But, see, that's exactly the point. Doing three islands in as many days isn't "half a loaf," it's no loaf.

Better to experience something the way it was meant to be than nothing the way it was not.


Title: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: efflpetzel on February 08, 2015, 11:24:31 PM
I'm glad you enjoyed. But our experience was super ugly. :-X   I guess it's a hit or miss. ::)
do you mind elaborating about Shabbos?,

Also I'm curious what things you got to do in Koa as the place involves lots of driving
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on February 08, 2015, 11:46:40 PM
But, see, that's exactly the point. Doing three islands in as many days isn't "half a loaf," it's no loaf.

Better to experience something the way it was meant to be than nothing the way it was not.
And that doesn't mean not going. It just means not going to three islands in four days


Do you think someone would enjoy four days on the east coast in NYC, DC and Boston?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: sky121 on February 08, 2015, 11:59:00 PM

Frankly, I still don't understand why people think Hawaii is the prettiest place on earth, but maybe I'm just an outlier, or I missed the best parts?, dunno.
So you'll probably tell me I didn't spend your "minimum" time "required" to spend on an island?! Eh. I'm not running back.
Don't get me wrong, it's very pretty, but... there is prettier.

If you wanted to see the prettiest place on earth Hawaii may not be it. Neither is the Caribbean though. Hawaii is a lot more than just about a pretty place.

One of my favorite things about Hawaii is the calm and peacefulness that creeps into you while you're there. Laid back, slow paced yet still exciting and exhilarating.

While I definitely believe it's ok to not get it all in if that's what your schedule permits there is a balance to that.  Going for 5 days to Kauai alone would have been a good example of getting a taste but not seeing it all.
But if you weren't even there long enough to get a taste of the place, it's no wonder you weren't left wanting more.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on February 09, 2015, 10:05:23 AM
@galitzyaner
Honestly, I'm baffled by just about everything you're saying. Everybody's different, and of course it's possible some people just don't enjoy what HI has to offer, but you'd definitely be in the minority (like small, infinitesimal minority ;)). Why don't you post your full itinerary? Or a list of places you'd rate higher? Maybe we'd get a better idea of where you're coming from. I don't know why we're all so obsessed with explaining why you didn't enjoy it - it's like we have this collective itch to scratch. ;D
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 10, 2015, 03:00:39 PM
Any recommendations for one night stay in HNL?

Hilton and Hyatt Diamond.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on February 10, 2015, 03:21:32 PM
Any recommendations for one night stay in HNL?

Hilton and Hyatt Diamond.
I know you'll likely get your answer here, but technically, this  (http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=1644.0)is the proper thread.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Marco Polo on February 11, 2015, 12:52:53 PM
So now that it looks like i have a ticket here, where should i be going/staying.

Landing 6/29/15 in HNL at 9:45 PM and leaving from HNL 7/5/15 at 1:30 PM.

I would probably be staying in HNL the first night as it will have been a crazy day of traveling. Should i fly to another island for the rest of the stay and come back to HNL for the weekend before i go back?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: @Yehuda on February 11, 2015, 02:06:13 PM
So now that it looks like i have a ticket here, where should i be going/staying.

Landing 6/29/15 in HNL at 9:45 PM and leaving from HNL 7/5/15 at 1:30 PM.

I would probably be staying in HNL the first night as it will have been a crazy day of traveling. Should i fly to another island for the rest of the stay and come back to HNL for the weekend before i go back?
Have you every been to HI? Most of the people here say Oahu is not the island to stay on. Jumping on another <1 hour flight to your destination island might be worth it that night just to be done with ALL the travelling that day.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Marco Polo on February 11, 2015, 02:10:58 PM
Have you every been to HI? Most of the people here say Oahu is not the island to stay on. Jumping on another <1 hour flight to your destination island might be worth it that night just to be done with ALL the travelling that day.
If the flights make sense, i would do it. Just need an idea and wait for full confirmation that UA is honoring the tickets.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Something Fishy on February 11, 2015, 02:11:54 PM
It's not quite an hour... Between the time between flights, possible checking checking in luggage again, etc. it'll add a couple of hours to the travel time.

Another idea might be to stay in HNL overnight, check out Pearl Harbor in the morning, and then head to LIH or OGG.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Marco Polo on February 11, 2015, 02:12:59 PM
It's not quite an hour... Between the time between flights, possible checking checking in luggage again, etc. it'll add a couple of hours to the travel time.

Another idea might be to stay in HNL overnight, check out Pearl Harbor in the morning, and then head to LIH or OGG.
The wife will probably like that idea better.

Any preference between LIH or OGG if i can only do one?
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: skyguy918 on February 11, 2015, 02:17:50 PM
The wife will probably like that idea better.

Any preference between LIH or OGG if i can only do one?
I did both ideas. I went straight to OGG when we arrived in HNL. It was earlier in the day than your situation (~5-6pm IIRC), but I still think it's fine. OTOH, I did Pearl Harbor on the way back and that was great too.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Marco Polo on February 11, 2015, 02:19:52 PM
I did both ideas. I went straight to OGG when we arrived in HNL. It was earlier in the day than your situation (~5-6pm IIRC), but I still think it's fine. OTOH, I did Pearl Harbor on the way back and that was great too.
I guess i can do it either way, as long as UA honors the deal.

Would also need to find out from the wife.

Our flight in will be LHR-FRA-LAX-HNL and may even have flights going into LHR earlier that day. So maybe a night in HNL will be better idea.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: AJK on February 11, 2015, 02:23:04 PM
This is a waste of breath until you hear it's getting honored.
Title: Re: Hawaii Master Thread: General Questions And Which Island To Visit?
Post by: Ergel on February 11, 2015, 02:23:57 PM
This is a waste of breath until you hear it's getting honored.
+1
I think I'm sitting out DDF the rest of the day
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