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Title: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 10, 2017, 07:11:46 PM
Not guaranteeing that it works, but so far a few times successful.

Steps I toke:
Rented with www.xrentalcars.com
(The rates are prepaid)
After rental period (e.g. 1 week), you ask if you could keep it for another week.
They should say, something like. Okay, you will pay that same amount again after the rental.
Upon returning the car, when handing back the car keys, just casually inform that all is okay, mentioning that you kept the car clean and no crashes.
Normally when they glance at their pc they, will just see that it's a prepaid rate and no longer will you need to pay.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: sillypainter on October 10, 2017, 07:23:54 PM
Not guaranteeing that it works, but so far a few times successful.

Steps I toke:
Rented with www.xrentalcars.com
(The rates are prepaid)
After rental period (e.g. 1 week), you ask if you could keep it for another week.
They should say, something like. Okay, you will pay that same amount again after the rental.
Upon returning the car, when handing back the car keys, just casually inform that all is okay, mentioning that you kept the car clean and no crashes.
Normally when they glance at their pc they, will just see that it's a prepaid rate and no longer will you need to pay.

Should be discussed in the moral thread because this is morally wrong.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Freddie on October 10, 2017, 07:28:38 PM
This is almost as ingenious as the Starbucks method.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yitrap on October 10, 2017, 07:45:18 PM
Please please please please, someone ask what the Starbucks method is. 
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Yehuda57 on October 10, 2017, 07:53:45 PM
Please please please please, someone ask what the Starbucks method is.


Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yitrap on October 10, 2017, 07:55:34 PM

Ugh I wanted to quote it
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Yehuda57 on October 10, 2017, 07:57:17 PM
Ugh I wanted to quote it

Sorry, I misread. thought you were asking
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: mmgfarb on October 10, 2017, 07:58:32 PM
Lol
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Freddie on October 10, 2017, 07:58:41 PM
Ugh I wanted to quote it

You can tell us about the Staples method for free reams of paper. But that may require TimT-esque search skills.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Yehuda57 on October 10, 2017, 08:03:53 PM
You can tell us about the Staples method for free reams of paper. But that may require TimT-esque search skills.

Or, you can just use the trusty "Starbucks method" for 100% off. What you do is go into Staples and order TWO reams of paper...
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: hachover on October 10, 2017, 08:24:52 PM
This works everywhere, whats the big deal. At home depot, you take 2 gallons of paint to checkout, and the rep scans one. Then you put the second one back in your cart and say "you just scanned the paint"
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yitrap on October 10, 2017, 10:58:27 PM

Stop taking my thiiiinnnnnggggsssss, TATTYYYYY!
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 11, 2017, 01:02:10 AM
This works everywhere, whats the big deal. At home depot, you take 2 gallons of paint to checkout, and the rep scans one. Then you put the second one back in your cart and say "you just scanned the paint"
Please don't compare.

I could drop the car keys in a designated postbox, yet I go into the agency, and they look into the file before saying that it's all good.

I realised that by chance.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yitrap on October 11, 2017, 03:56:48 AM
Please don't compare.

I could drop the car keys in a designated postbox, yet I go into the agency, and they look into the file before saying that it's all good.

I realised that by chance.
He's making a valid point...

I paid for week 1
I extended for week 2 and agreed to pay extra
Rental agency forgot to ask me for the extra money on return.

I didn't tell them they already charged me or anything of the sort...
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: nafnaf12 on October 11, 2017, 09:12:26 AM
He's making a valid point...

I paid for week 1
I extended for week 2 and agreed to pay extra
Rental agency forgot to ask me for the extra money on return.

I didn't tell them they already charged me or anything of the sort...
agreed. I had a somewhat similar story when they added on to my reservation that j should be charged  for underage (15/20euro per day)and when returning the car I made no mention of it and wasn't asked to pay..
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: ludmila on October 11, 2017, 12:05:38 PM
Not guaranteeing that it works, but so far a few times successful.

Steps I toke:
Rented with www.xrentalcars.com
(The rates are prepaid)
After rental period (e.g. 1 week), you ask if you could keep it for another week.
They should say, something like. Okay, you will pay that same amount again after the rental.
Upon returning the car, when handing back the car keys, just casually inform that all is okay, mentioning that you kept the car clean and no crashes.
Normally when they glance at their pc they, will just see that it's a prepaid rate and no longer will you need to pay.
Did you call xrentalcars.com or the rental company to ask if you can keep it longer?
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 11, 2017, 12:07:38 PM
Did you call xrentalcars.com or the rental company to ask if you can keep it longer?
At the rental desk.
I don't call.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: ludmila on October 11, 2017, 12:08:20 PM
This works everywhere, whats the big deal. At home depot, you take 2 gallons of paint to checkout, and the rep scans one. Then you put the second one back in your cart and say "you just scanned the paint"
But it shows on the register the amount of items scanned. Am I missing something?
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yitrap on October 11, 2017, 01:36:16 PM
But it shows on the register the amount of items scanned. Am I missing something?
No, it's not comparable nor would it generally work.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: real-brisker on October 11, 2017, 02:04:40 PM
If it happened its one thing. To do it purposely is different.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: hachover on October 11, 2017, 03:40:31 PM
Please don't compare.

I could drop the car keys in a designated postbox, yet I go into the agency, and they look into the file before saying that it's all good.

I realised that by chance.

Its sleight of hand at best. Do that with paint and it will work sometimes too. Provide the right amount of distraction and you will fool most people most of the time.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Freddie on October 11, 2017, 05:37:28 PM
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: sharabob on October 13, 2017, 05:51:18 AM
Let me guess, you're the kind of person who wouldn't alert the cashier at a supermarket when she made a mistake in your favor such as forget to scan an item or give you too much change
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 14, 2017, 02:49:30 PM
Let me guess, you're the kind of person who wouldn't alert the cashier at a supermarket when she made a mistake in your favor such as forget to scan an item or give you too much change
I'm not sure who you are addressing, but in my rental case I clearly wait there for a response, and ask them if all okay a second time.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: MeirS on October 14, 2017, 08:05:04 PM


Roflmao

Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: mrprez27 on October 15, 2017, 05:13:33 PM
This is called stealing....no way to spin it.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 15, 2017, 05:14:02 PM
This is called stealing....no way to spin it.
Are you talking to me?
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yoohoo on October 15, 2017, 06:39:52 PM
this belongs on DDMS
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: keemster26 on October 15, 2017, 07:35:41 PM
this belongs on DDMS
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: skyguy918 on October 15, 2017, 07:48:09 PM
If it happened its one thing. To do it purposely is different.
This. The first time, depending on how it went down (and only SuperFlyer really old) it could easily be taus akum, which at least is mutar midina. But after that - or for anyone that reads this and tries is out) - it's  mateh akum, and it's assur.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: mrprez27 on October 16, 2017, 12:20:38 AM
Are you talking to me?
I'm speaking to everyone including myself.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 16, 2017, 12:44:49 AM
I'm speaking to everyone including myself.
Halachically I'm okay what concerns the rental case.
They have all the info.
I ask twice if all is okay.
I don't obscure anything.
I don't fake anything.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 16, 2017, 12:49:35 AM
This. The first time, depending on how it went down (and only SuperFlyer really old) it could easily be taus akum, which at least is mutar midina. But after that - or for anyone that reads this and tries is out) - it's  mateh akum, and it's assur.
You aren't matte.
All is legit.
You ask if you can extend for rental.
As I keep on writing: I'm not hiding anything, faking anything.
I could drop the key in the box, but walk into the agency and ask them twice to look if everything is ok.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 16, 2017, 12:50:35 AM
You aren't matte.
All is legit.
You ask if you can extend for rental.
As I keep on writing: I'm not hiding anything, faking anything.
I could drop the key in the box, but walk into the agency and ask them twice to look if everything is ok.
Now, if you did the same in Israel, it would be a different story.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Freddie on October 16, 2017, 01:05:20 AM
I nominate for most revolting thread.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 16, 2017, 01:15:43 AM
I nominate for most revolting thread.
Thanks
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: Freddie on October 16, 2017, 01:22:46 AM
Thanks

Sorry but you are the one doubling down and tripling down after so many have already expressed their dismay. Just brush it off and move on gracefully. You're better than this.

I apologize for the unsolicited advice.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 16, 2017, 01:32:35 AM
Sorry but you are the one doubling down and tripling down after so many have already expressed their dismay. Just brush it off and move on gracefully. You're better than this.

I apologize for the unsolicited advice.
Interesting, in a forum where quite some people use chargebacks whenever they don't like the product or service, or where coupons are used which often say they are for personal use not to be shared...

Halachically I probably stand way better in my shoes.

I'm not responsible for every shmoe and their opinions.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: rileywiles23 on October 16, 2017, 06:54:06 PM
Thanks alot SF. Awesome idea.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 16, 2017, 06:55:13 PM
Thanks alot SF. Awesome idea.
You are very welcome!

Hatora chasa al memonam...
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: shulemw on October 16, 2017, 10:35:54 PM
Thanks a ton SF. I will certainly double up on this one :)
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yelped on October 16, 2017, 10:50:46 PM
You are very welcome!

Hatora chasa al memonam...
Whoa. Don't even go there.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: moe8555 on October 17, 2017, 04:54:25 AM
This is called "the sin of omission."  Pretty sure when we mention the many sins and transgressions we have made during Yom Kippur tefilot, that's on the list.

Also, they have told you a specific price that must be paid, upon asking if it's okay to extend another week (same amount as first week).  You have been informed that your action of extending the rental by one week is acceptable based upon the consideration that you will pay the original price again at the end of the extension.

You have entered into an agreement and broken your word.

Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 17, 2017, 04:56:26 AM
This is called "the sin of omission."  Pretty sure when we mention the many sins and transgressions we have made during Yom Kippur tefilot, that's on the list.

Also, they have told you a specific price that must be paid, upon asking if it's okay to extend another week (same amount as first week).  You have been informed that your action of extending the rental by one week is acceptable based upon the consideration that you will pay the original price again at the end of the extension.
Right, so when I ask them how much I owe?  I've asked this twice.
Funny that on this forum all some people find problematic is my story.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: moe8555 on October 17, 2017, 04:57:32 AM
Right, so when I ask them how much I owe?  I've asked this twice.
Funny that on this forum all some people find problematic is my story.

But why the need to ask what you owe?  You were already told what you owe!

And there are other problematic actions on this forum, to some of which I've also replied -- I'm certainly not singling you out.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 17, 2017, 04:58:54 AM
But why the need to ask what you owe?  You were already told what you owe!
Just wondering at what point does stupid become illegal.
It's a completely legit question.
Maybe I returned late, or early, or they found a scratch on the car.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: moe8555 on October 17, 2017, 05:00:50 AM
Maybe I returned late, or early, or they found a scratch on the car.
'

But the problem here lies in the fact that you're not actually asking the question for those reasons, you are not asking in tom lev.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 17, 2017, 05:11:26 AM
'

But the problem here lies in the fact that you're not actually asking the question for those reasons, you are not asking in tom lev.
You mean I have to have more pure kavonos when paying?
Maybe I should be a dumb American and ask if I'm allowed to hand over big tips to everyone at the rental agency?
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: bestwatchman on October 17, 2017, 05:25:44 AM
I haven't yet developed an opinion on this but to all the naysayers, how is it different than returning a car after dark to hide a scratch or not mentioning you busted a tire and this is the spare....? Would you proactively bring that up as well?
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yelped on October 17, 2017, 11:00:06 AM
I haven't yet developed an opinion on this but to all the naysayers, how is it different than returning a car after dark to hide a scratch or not mentioning you busted a tire and this is the spare....? Would you proactively bring that up as well?
Would you not?
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: skyguy918 on October 17, 2017, 12:37:17 PM
Right, so when I ask them how much I owe?  I've asked this twice.
Funny that on this forum all some people find problematic is my story.
Why not ask a posek and report back?
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: bestwatchman on October 17, 2017, 12:44:28 PM
Would you not?
guilty as charged. I guess I am a horrible Jew.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: yelped on October 17, 2017, 12:57:23 PM
guilty as charged. I guess I am a horrible Jew.
Don't say that.
Title: Re: Free doubling of car rental days (50% success)
Post by: SuperFlyer on October 19, 2017, 03:22:22 PM
Why not ask a posek and report back?
I asked my rabbi.
He said, as long as you don't put a stumble for them to make a mistake.
Meaning, if you hide some grocery shopping on top of another, it's a problem.
If you notice that lady x at the supermarket charges constantly too cheap for product x, it is no problem to do a repeat buy by lady x.