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Re: Silent Killer
Yet another stereotype. We have no issue asking for help if we feel we need it.
There is a tremendous stigma involved with drug abuse in our communities. The fact is that it goes on everywhere and it is not talked about. For example I know that in one particular shul there are at least 9 different people (that I know of) that have siblings who have seeked out help for addiction. All these 9 are friends and not one of them knows about the other. I guarantee you there are more. None of these people are showing up on "stats".

Just because you dont know about it doesnt mean its not going on. If people began the conversation, we would realize that no family hasnt been affected by this in one way or the other.

September 06, 2016, 12:12:15 PM
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Re: Silent Killer All this talk of above or below the national average is really ridiculous and completely ignoring the topic at hand.

In other words welcome to DDF.

@Emkay no matter what stats you bring, people will always say we are more insular than the world and therefore no stats will matter.

September 06, 2016, 01:10:43 PM
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Re: Silent Killer
What percentage would you think of people are not aware of the health risks when they start using drugs?


ZERO

September 06, 2016, 01:53:38 PM
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Re: Silent Killer
What percentage would you think of people are not aware of the health risks when they start using drugs?
I think a high percentage are not fully aware.
If you ask someone smoking their first joint if heroin is bad they will of course know that it is, yet they have no understanding that they just took the first step towards that deadly addiction.
I remember speaking to someone who told me he does everything except opiates bc "that stuff is too dangerous" one week later he was tested and opiates were found in his system. I asked him I thought u don't do opiates and he answered me "when I'm f+%ked up I'll do anything"

September 06, 2016, 01:56:12 PM
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Re: Silent Killer
September 06, 2016, 02:24:11 PM
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Re: Silent Killer
Good question. I think the answer to the 1st questions is most parents would rather ther kids drink. 2nd questions. Pot
I would agree with you and IMHO most don't understand drugs and addictions is why they would say that.

September 06, 2016, 03:31:12 PM
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Re: Silent Killer @hvaces42

If you don't get poetry than just say that, you are sounding really silly to me.

It's a beautiful poem, and yes I love poetry so maybe I'm biased. The beauty is that is is open to interpretation and allows the reader to take it to heart or not depending on how they read it and understand it, it can be much more powerful than a simply stated idea.

Before I give my interpretation I just want to say that I don't understand how you can say words words words when the main call for action that you are suggesting here is education, and how exactly is education done? "Words words words."

Words are one of the most powerful forces in the world, you will never get anywhere without using them, insulting them doesn't sound very smart to me.

Anyway with that said the poem to me is coming from a girl who is living in a similar situation, the author had a tough childhood with no one to look up to. She is an adult now and can do what she wants, many of her friends from similar backgrounds take heroin and claim that it saved them and changed their life from miserable to wonderful. Yet she has held off the easy path and been working hard to avoid it.

Being that she never had a good role model to look up to she and her friends see heroin as a heroine that can take them out of their sad life and make them instantly happy.

After a few friends being killed from heroin she is realizing it's not time to blame the person or say how good a person they were, it's time to realize that heroin is no heroine at all but rather a filthy lying scumbag who just like an abusive husband, promises to give her the world but really all it does it destroy it.

I think for someone who was considering heroin this can be very educational and a good read.

Hope that makes some sense no time to look over what I wrote atm.

September 08, 2016, 11:22:13 AM
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Re: Silent Killer
Hope that makes some sense no time to look over what I wrote atm.
Words words words.  :P

Of course it makes sense.

September 08, 2016, 11:27:05 AM
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Re: Budapest Master Thread
Not sure if this is the best place to ask this, but deciding between Budapest, Vienna & Prague, which place would be the best base for a few days of touring, in terms of Kosher food/hotels, pricing, things to do...
I'd vote for Budapest. I went to all three this summer and I had a great time by all of them, but I'd rank them as far as where I'd want to go back as first Budapest, then Prague then Vienna. Let me know if you have further questions about specifics etc.

ETA: Forget about among those 3 cities. Budapest may very well be the nicest city I've been to and I've been to many cities across 40 countries in the past year and a half. That, along with the fact that a gorgeous 5 star hotel can be had for under $150 a night, and there's great kosher food available, makes me not understand why Budapest is not a more talked about destination over here.

September 08, 2016, 03:22:12 PM
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Re: Budapest Master Thread
I went to Budapest 2 weeks ago, what in the Gehenim did you see there that fascinated you?
Did you check out the view across the river of Pest from the hills of Buda at night? May very well be the most beautiful/magnificent nighttime view I've seen.

September 08, 2016, 03:38:43 PM
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