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Ladies and gentlemen, foreign policy in 2017: operation brown-nose
So not much has changed over the last 5700 years....

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http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/politics-government/national-politics/article151937437.html

Surrounded by a group of visiting school children from Lakewood, N.J., New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie speaks at a news conference in his offices in Trenton, N.J., Monday, May 22, 2017. Christie is touting the state's 4.1 percent unemployment rate as he urged voters in this year's race for governor not to vote for candidates who will reverse his policies. [/size][/color][/size]Seth Wenig[/color][/size] [/color][/size]AP Photo[/color]


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Just Shmooze / Re: Take Back Lakewood
« on: Yesterday at 10:03:00 PM »
That's my issue, the way things have been said is with the assumption that TBL has bad motives.
That at any moment he may go rogue.

This ain't the first time it happened in the thread and it won't be the last time. That's why it gets on my nerves.
Simply give him the benefit of the doubt until you have a good reason to believe otherwise. I apologize that my previous remarks are harsher.
It is a fine line to walk. It will beneficial to have the regular reminders. Also he may not know every aspect of every item. He may not know the history of cores and Blay. By accepting the criticism here, which he seems to have thankfully done, it will help him toe the line. Sometimes you need someone who is more on the outside to to see these things.

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Look into Turnberry Isle in Aventura.
or if you want more extended stay type the residence inn across the street.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Take Back Lakewood
« on: Yesterday at 07:17:48 PM »
This is why things stay the way they are

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Just Shmooze / Re: Take Back Lakewood
« on: Yesterday at 06:10:59 PM »
These are very good points.
He mad a fool out of himself speaking about UPS before the Township Committee. UPS is an issue, but he got the issue completely wrong. Their problem is the school across the street, not density.
  Living in Lakewood for a total of 4 years, he doesn't even know what Lakewood used to be like before the congestion. He is piggybacking on a movement to benefit himself.
If he is a weak candidate he is worse than no candidate irrespective of whether or not he would be good or even great on the committee since as a poor candidate he will not make it there anyhow.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Take Back Lakewood
« on: Yesterday at 06:04:54 PM »
Man, meet mirror

Besides for when you do..

Once again, look in the mirror. You had to attack TBL about the dumb article that Cores is a part of. Never for a second do you think he wasn't trying to endorse Cores. He clarified his intent, move along.

Lets look back at the conversation here and give this one last try. I have no plan of going in circles with someone who doesn't bother understanding what was written before attacking.

TBL posted a link to an article by Cores. Midwest Joe replied with this

Singer is a problem, but this Cores candidate is not the solution. she posts a lot on NJ.com and APP comment section. She is on board with every slander and false accusation against Lakewood and Orthodox Jews. (Jews don't pay taxes, jews don't get marriage license, the school board steals funds for private schools etc.)

No attack on TBL. He agrees that Singer is a problem and is saying that Cores is also a problem.

Then Dawie wrote this
couldn;t agree with you more
@TBL as soon as you become "tomus nafshi im plishtim" or all incumbents out at any cost, you will lose me

besides, can you explain what Singer's role is in helping the developers when he is not on the local level? CAFRA?

Right away Yuneeq goes on the warpath.
You guys are so quick to threaten TBL the second he might not rub your toes the right way.


The reply was
threaten? i think you're the one who needs to chill
just a word of friendly advice,yes, the "hamon am" are fed up but the answer isn't and wont be tearing it down to the ground without a decent option to replace.
"we" are also tired of Herschel/Harold and Yudel and all the others who burned all their bridges and just complain day in and day out with any constructive input
I agree with your last bit about top down...

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It has been an unfortunate trend that those who start off by trying to end the corrupt giveaways and overdevelopment have ended up all too often becoming bitter, anti-yeshiva, and aligning themselves with anti-semites like Cores and Joyce Blay who always interpret everything in the worst possible light for frum  yidden. It starts by giving them a platform and then goes further. Don't go that direction. Once you do you will be as effective as Shain and HH.
Neither of these says that TBL has gone that route. Both are saying that he did not but also should not in the future. I added that by giving them a platform was how HH and Shain started down that route saying that I fell he should not go down that route.

Mr Warpath answers a somewhat incoherent reply which I still am not sure what it has to do with what I wrote.
Then you have the guys who are so used to getting screwed over that if anyone tries to help they'd rather shoot themselves in the foot again and follow in the path of the insane (doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results).. No need to cry wolf just yet.
Not sure who is crying wolf here other that Yuneeq.

We are saying that TBL should be careful not to do the same thing as in the past. Considering that the only one who is advocating doing the same thing that failed is Yuneeq I responded
you mean like doing the same thing as Shain and HH etc?
Which is basically what he is advocating by attacking anyone who says that TBL shouldn't do that. Of course without reading comprehension Yuneeq thinks that I am saying that TBL is ight now like HH despite that I very clearly wrote otherwise earlier.

You need to stop being so sensitive to any criticism about TBL. It is exactly because people want him to succeed that they are giving this criticism. We wouldn't bother giving it to HH or YS. It would be a waste. I don't think it will be a waste to say it to TBL. He has shown himself to be willing to listen to suggestions and criticism which is the biggest reason to hope he will be more successful that those before him. By going on the warpath the second there is some criticism you are fallingf into  the HH/YS trap. If TBL would do like you the movement would be doomed.



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Just Shmooze / Re: Take Back Lakewood
« on: Yesterday at 05:08:08 PM »
You can't say he is ineffective, he has been effective in raising issues. Without his previous blog, would there be a Hefkervelt? He can't be the face of the opposition, but he definitely has added to the conversation.

I don't agree with him about many things, including the significance of downtown, but that doesn't change the fact that he has added, and maybe even started, the conversation.
I guess if you consider the issues getting talked about with nothing actually changing to be effective then he was effective to the extent that some hockers talk about what he says.

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I've been trying to price flights for a flight to Israel in August and I noticed that some days certain carriers just dont show up on the list of flights. Its not that  certain carriers are not offering flights for certain dates, but for example today (and one day last week) American Airlines was not in the list of potential flights regardless of which day I was looking to book for.

Is this something that others have observed and do you know why?
Maybe they are booked?

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It is a fund that she proposed and pushed for at the World Bank but has no real connection with. That is very different than the Clinton Foundation. Even so it doesn't look great. We all know why they are giving this donation.

Fox News doesn't find it newsworthy.

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not accurate at all. There is no Ivanka fund
Please explain. Either way I just enjoyed the line that he has an old tweet for every occasion.

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Up In The Air / Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« on: Yesterday at 01:29:05 PM »
Posted it in the wrong forum by accident should I delete the old post?sorry
Yes you should. In general the members of this forum are very willing to help but have an expectation that people make the effort not to make it more difficult than needed. That is simple manners as well. Part of that is to not clog the forums with double posts and to try to find the answer already posted. Also included is to make your post way to read by using punctuation in your sentences. It can sometimes make you add it in on a phone. That is still less than any post someone makes to try and help you. Please follow simple etiquette.

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General Discussion / Re: yeshiva/sem dorm supplies
« on: Yesterday at 12:57:21 PM »
Best is to find someone who was there the previous year and buy off them

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