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Just Shmooze / Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« on: Today at 08:32:54 PM »
Sure. I have a duty to question everything.


Do you talk in shull? if yes, do you believe in God ? because clearly you dont respect him
Saying the Word of G-d doesnt make sense is equally, if not more disrespectful.

Having said that, Talking in shul is terribly disruptive. I know i was guilty of it and our Rav worked terribly hard to make me and my friends stop...and we BH, for the most part did. When I now go to other shuls and people talk during leining it now distirbs me as well. However, that is not the be all and end all litmus test of whether one respects G-d or not.

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Credit Cards / Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« on: Today at 08:20:44 PM »
OP
:-X
You can tag someone else who I was accused of being as well.

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HKG-TLV in August has a nice amount of Business class availability:
8/6= 6 seats
8/13= 5 seats
8/14= 6 seats
Presumably CX?

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Just Shmooze / Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« on: Today at 06:09:57 PM »
I can still say it doesn't make sense.

Rambam says in the intro that Chaggai was part of the Anshei Knesset HaGedolah and that the last surviving member was Shimon HaTzadik (not Chaggai)
For the hundredth time, you have an issue with what Rambam says.

1. You would like to understand what he says.
2. In your mind such a statement does not make sense based on your life experience and knowledge of how long people generally live.
3. You translate your minds inability to reconcile what your experience is, with what Rambam says, into a statement about Torah "stuff" that doesnt make sense.
4. That statement is patently offensive to any bnei torah.
5. You are lectured about the inappropriateness of the statement based on you conflating your inability to make sense, with your inability to understand.

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Credit Cards / Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« on: Today at 05:40:41 PM »
I asked what was the trigger, you replied with what AFAIK isn't a trigger, which I assumed was a simple miscommunication
Assumptions will do that. If there was more to the story wouldnt i say so? I think if anything, i write clearly.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« on: Today at 05:38:09 PM »
Read the post with my question. Read the post where i repeated the circumstance in response to his trigger question and read his subsequent response. Hes trolling or just not reading and asking whatever he wants to ask.

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Credit Cards / Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« on: Today at 05:35:04 PM »
Simple. It's harder to get a an account closed for abuse reopened.
And it was made abundantly clear what the circumstance was yet you continued to ask. Reminds me of the game my kids play when one tells a story and the other kids just respond on and on "and...". Thats what it felt like. Go back and read it.

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Up In The Air / Re: Miles and more
« on: Today at 05:32:17 PM »
Doubt it. The US office is LA based IIRC. Theyre open US business hours. M-F 8-5?

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Just Shmooze / Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« on: Today at 05:30:46 PM »
I don't even know why you aarare repeatedly being hostile. I never said or implied any of that.

First off rabbi Eily Smith is a respected rabbi and Dayan in Miami.

Second off, I brought up Johnson because he indicates that based on what Daniel wrote, it would make him having lived in macabbee times, so what?  I never said I don't believe in nevua. I asked his opinion and he said what I wrote.. I.e. if you believe in nevua, its not trouble to understand and accept it.
That explains some of this. If your source of information leaves open the possibility to deny one of the ikrim then we get the language used to begin this thread.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Link to popcorn threads.
« on: Today at 05:27:58 PM »
What the h*ll is going on here?
http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=11216.6570

If someone tries to help and you don't agree just ignore and move on.
Incessant, repetitive, questioning will do that.

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Credit Cards / Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« on: Today at 05:24:32 PM »
I'm not sure why you think JS is inherently different, you shouldn't be posting nonsense in JS either.
לאפוקי your signature ;D ;D

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Just Shmooze / Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« on: Today at 05:20:10 PM »
What in god's good name are you talking about?!?  Where did I engage in biblical criticism?!?!?

I said I discussed the subject iwith rabbi Eily Smith and he said "either you believe in nevua, or you dont"

My question Was about something the rambam wrote.. I'm entitled to say it doesn't make sense.  You can try to help me make sense of it or you can bash me, I don't care
The title of the thread. And you brought up Johnson to prove what point? Who is this Rabbi Smith? Who is he to say you believe in nevuah or not?  Again, youre taking what the Rambam said at fave value but ignoring another one of the ikrim. Its amazing, 3 out of 13 so far. Keep this up and we may knock out all of them before the day is up and still have the original question, based on...the Rambam's opinion.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« on: Today at 05:09:08 PM »
I'm engaged in constructive criticism and questioning what either makes no sense or I don't understand.
Who died and left you in charge, so to speak. Constructive or not it is still bible criticism.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Torah stuff that doesnt make sense
« on: Today at 05:06:18 PM »

in Paul Johnson history of the Jew's, he Puts daniel as a historian in the macabee era. Which spawned the comment above.

I bought and read a good part of that book based on the recommendations of Rabbi Wein who states that the book has value, but not all of it. Rabbi Wein discounts most of the pre-biblical part of the book.

And again, you dont understand the Torah because a historian wrote something? If that is the case we are dealing with Bible criticism here and lets be clear and honest about that. Most here dont want to engage in any discussion. Go find DovBear in a google search and you will be in good company.

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Just Shmooze / Re: Torah stuff that I don't understand
« on: Today at 04:53:14 PM »
This is my issue with all religions. It is the word of G-d but travels thru man to the rest of us. Man is corrupt so that is a big problem.
And therein lies the faith aspect of religion. Otherwise, "a little birdie told me to write this", would be (and in fact is) the foundation of soem religions.

The way it was explained to me when i asked the question was as follows: Us Jews celebrate the holidays because our parents celebrated them back to time immemorial. Our parents are not liars so we inherently believe that they received this tradition going back to its origin. Therefore, the biblical narrative must be true.

If that is the case then we celebrate Shavuos, which memorializes the receipt of the Torah at Sinai. So part of the narrative that Moses ascended to Heaven and came down with the Tablets is fact. Then what part of Judaism requires faith?

The part that has him writing down everything else besides what he came down with.

Its oversimplified but I hope it helps.

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