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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #75 on: March 21, 2013, 04:20:46 PM »
Do you not eat tomatoes?
I do. It's possible to peel tomatoes....
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #76 on: March 21, 2013, 04:29:24 PM »
More frum people.
not sure what its gotta do with being more frum, in my dictionary frum has got to do with halacha and anything based on minhag (i.e. gebrokst) has nothing to do with being frum
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #77 on: March 21, 2013, 04:38:16 PM »
not sure what its gotta do with being frum, in my dictionary frum has got to do with halacha and anything based on minhag (i.e. gebrokst) has nothing to do with being frum
pretty sure u meant to say that just bec. u have diff. minhagim ur still frum - what u did say sounds like minhagim have nothing to do with being frum and i'm pretty sure we have minhagim albeit diff. ones  bec. we're frum (side note: chochmas shlomo seems to learn that the tur held of gebrokts in regards to matza meal/kneidlach, also see beis yosef on that tur and be'er heitiv -can't give exact source now bec. i'm not home)

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #78 on: March 21, 2013, 04:43:02 PM »
not sure what its gotta do with being frum, in my dictionary frum has got to do with halacha and anything based on minhag (i.e. gebrokst) has nothing to do with being frum
Frum, like Yeshivish Chassidish or Heimish or modern are the most subjective words known.
No two people share the same meaning for the word.
And thats why we are lucky they are not in the dictionary
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #79 on: March 21, 2013, 04:44:54 PM »
Frum, like Yeshivish Chassidish or Heimish or modern are the most subjective words known.
No two people share the same meaning for the word.
And thats why we are lucky they are not in the dictionary
Oh and P.S. if you eat gebrokst you're not "Less frum" You are a goy!  :o :o
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #80 on: March 21, 2013, 04:45:45 PM »
pretty sure u meant to say that just bec. u have diff. minhagim ur still frum - what u did say sounds like minhagim have nothing to do with being frum and i'm pretty sure we have minhagim albeit diff. ones  bec. we're frum
I meant it does not make you more frum
(side note: chochmas shlomo seems to learn that the tur held of gebrokts in regards to matza meal/kneidlach, also see beis yosef on that tur and be'er heitiv -can't give exact source now bec. i'm not home)
I'm not saying gebrokst didn't start from a halachik source just that nowadays it doesn't have any basis and the mishna berura says in hilchos minhag hamakom that any minhag that has no basis you are not bound to

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #81 on: March 21, 2013, 04:46:55 PM »
I meant it does not make you more frum I'm not saying gebrokst didn't start from a halachik source just that nowadays it doesn't have any basis and the mishna berura says in hilchos minhag hamakom that any minhag that has no basis you are not bound to
+1 on both an old heated machlokes
the Gr"a seems to have held that it's a minhag shtus while R' Moshe held u need hataras nedarim as long as u were noheig the minhag as a gadol even if it was just bec. of ur father

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #82 on: March 21, 2013, 04:47:41 PM »
pretty sure u meant to say that just bec. u have diff. minhagim ur still frum - what u did say sounds like minhagim have nothing to do with being frum and i'm pretty sure we have minhagim albeit diff. ones  bec. we're frum (side note: chochmas shlomo seems to learn that the tur held of gebrokts in regards to matza meal/kneidlach, also see beis yosef on that tur and be'er heitiv -can't give exact source now bec. i'm not home)
(Your writing style is very frum :P)
All samkey was saying is having different minhagim doesn't mean more frum. It was in reply to one specific comment.
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #83 on: March 21, 2013, 04:51:08 PM »
and its pretty cool that we are having this discussion in this thread ;)

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #84 on: March 21, 2013, 05:00:22 PM »
and its pretty cool that we are having this discussion in this thread ;)
got to love JS and frum people lol.
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #85 on: March 21, 2013, 05:06:26 PM »
i'm liking it much better than the anti-not-so-anti-kollel-chip-on-your-shoulder-add- what-ever-else -you-want-lakewood master thread  :D

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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #86 on: March 21, 2013, 05:14:03 PM »
i'm liking it much better than the anti-not-so-anti-kollel-chip-on-your-shoulder-add- what-ever-else -you-want-lakewood master thread  :D
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Re: Re: The funny/strange/interesting pictures thread
« Reply #87 on: March 21, 2013, 07:02:04 PM »
Oh and P.S. if you eat gebrokst you're not "Less frum" You are a goy!  :o :o
You like arguing don't u? Also I hope u r joking about eating gebrokst?

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Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #88 on: March 21, 2013, 08:41:11 PM »
The rest like to Daven at 10  :-\
Getting OT here but the point of 10am shacharis (having said sh'ma already during brochos/korbonos upon waking) on shabbos is to get up early and learn chassidus or say the entire tehilim before davening so that you are in the proper frame of mind to daven in an inspired fashion.
Chabad yeshivos start the day with 90 minutes of chassidus before davening every day and 2 hours on shabbos.

Same goes for why Chabad allows (encourages?) mezonos before davening, so that davening isn't something to be rushed through to get to food but that food is something we eat so that we can better daven b'kavanah...
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Re: Re: Lakewood NJ Master Thread
« Reply #89 on: March 21, 2013, 09:04:54 PM »
Getting OT here but the point of 10am shacharis (having said sh'ma already during brochos/korbonos upon waking) on shabbos is to get up early and learn chassidus or say the entire tehilim before davening so that you are in the proper frame of mind to daven in an inspired fashion.
Chabad yeshivos start the day with 90 minutes of chassidus before davening every day and 2 hours on shabbos.

Same goes for why Chabad allows (encourages?) mezonos before davening, so that davening isn't something to be rushed through to get to food but that food is something we eat so that we can better daven b'kavanah...
My understanding is that the heter to eat before davening may only apply if its absolutely essential to improving your davening, (even then, only chabad go with this) I would imagine its not encouraged...