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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #800 on: November 10, 2016, 09:07:38 PM »
Invite them to stay for Shabbos :)
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #801 on: November 10, 2016, 11:02:44 PM »
Invite them to stay for Shabbos :)
Even if you know they won't?

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #802 on: November 10, 2016, 11:12:15 PM »
Even if you know they won't?
It's not your business what goes on in their head.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #803 on: November 10, 2016, 11:59:44 PM »
Even if you know they won't?
a chabdinik never says never with the possibility of a jew doing the right thing,

(i'm not being factitious here. see this letter from the rebbe http://chabadlibrary.org/books/admur/ig/19/7248.htm leaving aside for a moment the sugya of מכירת חמץ כשלעצמו, which enough poskim have weighed in on as well, to me this letter is a hora'ah first and foremost in דן לכף זכות. a point-by-point list of reasons to realistically assume a yid will do the right thing).

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #804 on: November 11, 2016, 08:58:02 AM »
What's Chabad ruling on inviting guests for Shabbas when you know they will drive?
Generally, each Chabad guy would ask their LOR and may get a slightly varying answer. Some are more מיקל and some are more מחמיר.

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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #805 on: November 11, 2016, 10:56:50 AM »
Most Chabad Rabbis walk their guest to the door and no further. What they do outside your home, you don't know about or control.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #806 on: December 25, 2016, 03:49:41 PM »
Is Chabad the only ones that don't thank Gd for the wars in Al Hanisim?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #807 on: December 25, 2016, 06:01:26 PM »
Is Chabad the only ones that don't thank Gd for the wars in Al Hanisim?
Are you phrasing your question wrong? We definitely thank G-d for the war in Al Hanissim, that is what the entire thing is about see also here
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #808 on: December 25, 2016, 06:03:40 PM »
Are you phrasing your question wrong? We definitely thank G-d for the war in Al Hanissim, that is what the entire thing is about see also here
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #809 on: December 25, 2016, 06:14:23 PM »
Seems like everyone else has V'al ha'milchamos in Al Hanisim/Heneiros halulu.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #810 on: December 25, 2016, 06:28:57 PM »
I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #811 on: December 25, 2016, 06:30:45 PM »
Seems like everyone else has V'al ha'milchamos in Al Hanisim/Heneiros halulu.
There's definitely a distinction between the Haneiros halolu (which is for the נס פך השמן) and ועל הניסים (which is about winning the war).
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #812 on: December 25, 2016, 06:36:04 PM »
OK?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #813 on: December 25, 2016, 06:40:13 PM »
OK?
Why would one be thanking for the wars (especially if opponents were yidden)?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #814 on: December 25, 2016, 06:56:42 PM »
Nusach Ari doesn't have V'al ha'milchamos in Al Hanisim or Heneiros halulu vs Ashkenaz/Sefard which does.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #815 on: December 25, 2016, 07:04:52 PM »
Nusach Ari doesn't have V'al ha'milchamos in Al Hanisim or Heneiros halulu vs Ashkenaz/Sefard which does.
Can't speak for the other נוסחאות, but I would say that the kashya is on them, what place is there to thank for the war (especially if the opponents were yidden)? Did you check Yemenite or Sefardic siddurim?
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #816 on: December 25, 2016, 07:05:45 PM »
Can't speak for the other נוסחאות, but I would say that the kashya is on them, what place is there to thank for the war (especially if the opponents were yidden)?
Then why did you question my original question :P
Is Chabad the only ones that don't thank Gd for the wars in Al Hanisim?
Are you phrasing your question wrong? We definitely thank G-d for the war in Al Hanissim, that is what the entire thing is about see also here
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #817 on: December 25, 2016, 07:12:28 PM »
Then why did you question my original question :P
Now let's get into some grammar ;)

My original post on this matter wasn't questioning your question, but rather asking for clarification. In the process I erred in saying we thank for the wars, when I should have said that we thank for the outcome of the wars.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #818 on: December 25, 2016, 07:15:33 PM »
Can't speak for the other נוסחאות, but I would say that the kashya is on them, what place is there to thank for the war (especially if the opponents were yidden)? Did you check Yemenite or Sefardic siddurim?
Only Artscroll Sefard and Ashkenaz.
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Re: Chabad Minhagim: Pros & Cons
« Reply #819 on: December 25, 2016, 07:15:47 PM »
Now let's get into some grammar ;)

My original post on this matter wasn't questioning your question, but rather asking for clarification. In the process I erred in saying we thank for the wars, when I should have said that we thank for the outcome of the wars.
Fair enough.
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