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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #140 on: September 07, 2014, 11:16:37 PM »
whats the difference between a btl and bts? Ive only heard of btl ( I think thats what bmg gives)
BMG gives a BTS (Bachelors of Talmudic Studies. A BTL (Bachelors of Talmudic Law) is worth the same but may sound fancier to an uninformed person since it has the word law in it!

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« Reply #141 on: September 07, 2014, 11:25:18 PM »
BMG gives a BTS (Bachelors of Talmudic Studies. A BTL (Bachelors of Talmudic Law) is worth the same but may sound fancier to an uninformed person since it has the word law in it!

I know.  Even my JD doesn't have the word "law" in it. 

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #142 on: September 07, 2014, 11:31:05 PM »
Anyone familiar with dantes ( what they are)? How do they compare to cleps?

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #143 on: September 08, 2014, 12:02:30 AM »
Is a BRS (bachelor of religious studies) effectively the same as  a BA? Or not so much

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #144 on: September 08, 2014, 01:11:51 AM »
Why is that?
Im starting this semester
ignore the ignorant.

Dante is another form of taking certain pre req's via a test format than have to sot thru a class. In English another easier option than a clep. ;)
If you have any questions please search and then ask. PM me for detailed help.

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #145 on: September 08, 2014, 07:02:49 AM »
In Gibraltar, all the Jewish kids to one specific public school paid for with taxes. In the afternoon, they go to Yeshiva for a few hours. (I know this is the case for elementary school, I forgot what happens in high school.) Tuition just went up this summer and is now a whopping $1500 GBP a year.

Why can't this system happen in America?

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« Reply #146 on: September 08, 2014, 08:18:59 AM »
In Gibraltar, all the Jewish kids to one specific public school paid for with taxes. In the afternoon, they go to Yeshiva for a few hours. (I know this is the case for elementary school, I forgot what happens in high school.) Tuition just went up this summer and is now a whopping $1500 GBP a year.

Why can't this system happen in America?

Bec we have a constitution, with such cute little gems as anti establishment clauses and anti discrimination clauses.

To do that in America, you would need to simply send your kids to the local public schools, not a special public school that will adopt your standards. 

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« Reply #147 on: September 08, 2014, 09:01:03 AM »
Bec we have a constitution, with such cute little gems as anti establishment clauses and anti discrimination clauses.

To do that in America, you would need to simply send your kids to the local public schools, not a special public school that will adopt your standards.
The way it was described to me, it seems like their school has nothing Jewish about it except the kids. Non-Jewish kids could go there, but they don't feel comfortable so they go to a different school.

ETA: Meaning there are no Jewish "standards" in school.

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« Reply #148 on: September 08, 2014, 09:14:56 AM »
The way it was described to me, it seems like their school has nothing Jewish about it except the kids. Non-Jewish kids could go there, but they don't feel comfortable so they go to a different school.

ETA: Meaning there are no Jewish "standards" in school.

You ready to send your kids to a coed school then?

Also, separate but equal doesn't fly here. You can't set up a public school in brooklyn and make it so only the jewish kids go. The department of ed would want to know why.

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« Reply #149 on: September 08, 2014, 09:22:11 AM »
You ready to send your kids to a coed school then?

Also, separate but equal doesn't fly here. You can't set up a public school in brooklyn and make it so only the jewish kids go. The department of ed would want to know why.
I had mixed English classes until 4th grade, so no I'm not completely against the idea. I don't remember all the details of the GIB school, but it is a very Charedi community (other than the fact that many people there have "real" jobs), so I'm sure they have some sort of solution for the coed issue.

I'm not saying to open up a new school in Brooklyn - I'm not sure how it would work, but - and I know this question has been asked before - if thousands of families checked off the box for "will be coming to public school" one year, what would happen? The school system is not empty and can't just take on thousands of new kids.

I just found out from my family in NJ that $8000 of their taxes went to public school. $8000!? And then they paid $12K for their 3 year old kid to go to day care/school. That is crazy. And I want to help find a solution before I'm in the same boat.

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #150 on: September 08, 2014, 09:25:32 AM »

I just found out from my family in NJ that $8000 of their taxes went to public school. $8000!? And then they paid $12K for their 3 year old kid to go to day care/school. That is crazy. And I want to help find a solution before I'm in the same boat.
Please help! We're getting desperate.

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« Reply #151 on: September 08, 2014, 09:30:23 AM »

I'm not saying to open up a new school in Brooklyn - I'm not sure how it would work, but - and I know this question has been asked before - if thousands of families checked off the box for "will be coming to public school" one year, what would happen? The school system is not empty and can't just take on thousands of new kids.


Well, the first few years would be very overcrowded. Then they would open a new school, and divide up everyone based on where they lived or whatever criteria they use.  And they would be very careful to draw the lines so that there was a fine mix of chassidish kids, and litvish kids, and sunni kids, and shiite kids, and whites and african americans etc.

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #152 on: September 08, 2014, 12:44:37 PM »
Vouchers. Not that it's gonna happen anytime soon.

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« Reply #153 on: September 08, 2014, 01:22:49 PM »
Vouchers. Not that it's gonna happen anytime soon.

Certainly won't happen.  Why should they pay for our schooling, when they're chugging along just fine now not paying for it.

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« Reply #154 on: September 08, 2014, 02:35:43 PM »
wow. Amazing response, really helpful. Tell me, this nyu language thing that everyone talks about, can it be done online? Can I use it for credits if I want a business degree?

Has to be taken in NYU unless you have a reason why you cant be there. Look it up on there website and youll see everything you need to know about how to take it. As far as credits go itll count for your random classes so itll help you get to 60 but it obviously cant be used for the business core. You can also speak to an admissions advisor and theyll go through with you what any credits you have will count for and what youll need etc.

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« Reply #155 on: September 08, 2014, 03:58:06 PM »
Certainly won't happen.  Why should they pay for our schooling, when they're chugging along just fine now not paying for it.
Obviously Jews would never get it done on their own. But there are plenty of other proponents of the voucher system (though of course not enough to actually vote it through). There's even one place in the US that operates under such a system - Milwaukee.

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Re: Master Thread: Education - College, Yeshiva, Seminary. Post Here.
« Reply #156 on: September 11, 2014, 10:09:48 AM »
Does anyone have any knowledge about pcs accounting ect.? I was planning on using tti/excelsior until someone told me that I can get a masters in a year and a half? Is their program legit? Is it a real degree or a " certificate"? How would it compare to a degree in business/ accounting at excelsior? All input is greatly appreciated.

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« Reply #157 on: September 11, 2014, 04:42:02 PM »
Help needed!!
Anyone here get a b.a. From excelsior and continue to get accepted at a masters program in a top-tier university??

I (and many others) are having an issue with bar illan university this year with such degrees.
They claim that if we have proof of acceptance to top tier universities it may help.

Thank in advance!
Greatly appreciate any help or leads!

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« Reply #158 on: September 11, 2014, 05:05:01 PM »
Does anyone have any knowledge about pcs accounting ect.? I was planning on using tti/excelsior until someone told me that I can get a masters in a year and a half? Is their program legit? Is it a real degree or a " certificate"? How would it compare to a degree in business/ accounting at excelsior? All input is greatly appreciated.
A Masters degree with a concentration in accounting from FDU through PCS is much more valuable than a degree in "business" from a weak college.
I don't know what accounting at excelsior is to compare. ...

With a MA in accounting you can take the CPA, and also gain actual, marketable technical skills = a job...



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« Reply #159 on: September 11, 2014, 05:10:56 PM »
Does anyone have any knowledge about pcs accounting ect.? I was planning on using tti/excelsior until someone told me that I can get a masters in a year and a half? Is their program legit? Is it a real degree or a " certificate"? How would it compare to a degree in business/ accounting at excelsior? All input is greatly appreciated.
Usually less than a 1.5 years.
The degree is through FDU which is a respected college.
The program is very thorough and you must maintain good grades to stay in the program.
It is also discounted compared to the regular school price.
Quaerite et Invenietis.