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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700408 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6120 on: February 08, 2017, 01:30:19 PM »
And answer Q's from public records
I hate when they ask about the make and model of a car I owned for 3 months 10 years ago.
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« Reply #6121 on: February 08, 2017, 01:38:12 PM »
Not uncommon right after new accounts opened. You should be OK, unless your CL/income is out of whack and/or they don't like something they see in your spending habits.
Thanks for the reassurance, I hope you're right
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6122 on: February 08, 2017, 02:50:09 PM »
I hate when they ask about the make and model of a car I owned for 3 months 10 years ago.
How about father in laws month of birth? . I had that once

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6123 on: February 08, 2017, 03:32:57 PM »
How about father in laws month of birth? . I had that once
thats why i married my wife

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6124 on: February 08, 2017, 04:26:21 PM »
thats why i married my wife
That's the only reason I was asked...because I married my wife. Lol

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6125 on: February 08, 2017, 04:52:56 PM »
That's the only reason I was asked...because I married my wife. Lol
you missed the joke :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6126 on: February 08, 2017, 04:53:47 PM »
you missed the joke :)
I got it. Its a catch 22. That's all I was saying

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6127 on: February 08, 2017, 10:55:25 PM »
How about father in laws month of birth? . I had that once
Had that, said I don't know, asked me my SIL dob, said I don't know, asked for the phone number on account, said I don't have that phone with me, asked a few other questions and passed.. :)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6128 on: February 10, 2017, 03:44:40 PM »
Thanks for the reassurance, I hope you're right
update?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6129 on: February 10, 2017, 04:00:46 PM »
update?
They never actually called me back so I called regular CS yesterday and asked if they saw a hold on my account, they said no. I tried using my Freedom today and it went through so it looks like everything is cleared up. I feel like I dodged a bullet with this one B"H.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6130 on: February 10, 2017, 04:02:48 PM »
They never actually called me back so I called regular CS yesterday and asked if they saw a hold on my account, they said no. I tried using my Freedom today and it went through so it looks like everything is cleared up. I feel like I dodged a bullet with this one B"H.
B"H lucky you

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6131 on: February 10, 2017, 04:04:00 PM »
B"H lucky you
Yes, it definitely feels that way although apparently it's pretty normal on new accounts I just never got it before. Gave me quite the scare though.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6132 on: February 14, 2017, 02:21:02 PM »
So I just called regular CS, rep said my account is being reviewed by the security and fraud department so hopefully this is good sign
This just happened to me. Hope everything works out.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6133 on: February 14, 2017, 02:28:31 PM »
This just happened to me. Hope everything works out.
Did you just open a new card?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6134 on: February 14, 2017, 02:30:57 PM »
Did you just open a new card?
Yes the ritz 1 month ago the hyatt just a few days ago. And I just added an au on the ritz. (didn't receive the hyatt yet the alert is on the ritz).

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6135 on: February 14, 2017, 02:36:43 PM »
Yes the ritz 1 month ago the hyatt just a few days ago. And I just added an au on the ritz. (didn't receive the hyatt yet the alert is on the ritz).
Happened to me on the Ritz also, should be just a normal review, as long as they don't see something crazy on your account, you should be fine. I kinda freaked out also but it ended up going away on its own.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6136 on: February 14, 2017, 02:39:48 PM »
Happened to me on the Ritz also, should be just a normal review, as long as they don't see something crazy on your account, you should be fine. I kinda freaked out also but it ended up going away on its own.
Thanks, hopefully it goes away. Shouldn't be anything crazy on the account. How long did it take to go away? From your posts it seems 3 days cmiiw.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6137 on: February 14, 2017, 03:55:26 PM »
Happened to me on the Ritz also, should be just a normal review, as long as they don't see something crazy on your account, you should be fine. I kinda freaked out also but it ended up going away on its own.
What's considered crazy? I had a new Ritz with 20k/24k pending in the first day, and I still passed the verification

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6138 on: February 16, 2017, 02:33:45 PM »
Thanks, hopefully it goes away. Shouldn't be anything crazy on the account. How long did it take to go away? From your posts it seems 3 days cmiiw.
Went away yesterday. Today I got a letter in the mail from the fraud dept. that they see I changed my address... Didn't change any addresses but it comes up a little different, that could have been the reason for my review.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6139 on: March 01, 2017, 02:40:18 PM »
I have a credit limit of 25k+ on my personal, and another 5k+ on my business cards.

My annual income is in the 50-60k per year.

Am I risking an a/a?

Should I lower my credit line?