Topic Wiki

Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1700093 times)

Offline mmgfarb

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 8394
  • Total likes: 1110
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6240 on: May 02, 2017, 01:32:30 PM »
That would take a while to figure out perhaps later today
"JS [is] a fetid cesspool of unvarnished linguistic manure, with lots of useless drivel and post-padding." -Moishebatchy

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2689
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6241 on: May 02, 2017, 02:13:49 PM »
Total amount of available credit from them.
from chase?
if yes then how would it help to reduce as he doesnt have any cards if they shut him down?!

Offline 12HRS

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jun 2013
  • Posts: 5167
  • Total likes: 577
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 6
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6242 on: May 05, 2017, 03:53:29 PM »
http://www.doctorofcredit.com/chase-cancelling-accounts-recent-card-applicants-deem-risky/

I've seen a couple reports of this as well. That one BA card I was thinking of throwing into my AOR is looking a lot less enticing

Offline avremie

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2012
  • Posts: 930
  • Total likes: 6
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: milky way
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6243 on: May 05, 2017, 04:49:06 PM »
This will ruin some of my plans >:(

Offline tzifanya54

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Jan 2012
  • Posts: 5634
  • Total likes: 240
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6244 on: May 06, 2017, 10:15:18 PM »
http://www.doctorofcredit.com/chase-cancelling-accounts-recent-card-applicants-deem-risky/

I've seen a couple reports of this as well. That one BA card I was thinking of throwing into my AOR is looking a lot less enticing
Trying to figure out if only the actual Chase application will trigger a review, or is anyone with any large credit lines is at risk...
« Last Edit: May 06, 2017, 10:23:28 PM by tzifanya54 »

Offline dovy2

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 2389
  • Total likes: 300
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 24
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6245 on: May 06, 2017, 10:58:48 PM »
anyone hear anything about the chase court settlement from long ago?

Offline chbochur

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2015
  • Posts: 821
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6246 on: May 06, 2017, 11:02:49 PM »
Trying to figure out if only the actual Chase application will trigger a review, or is anyone with any large credit lines is at risk...
I did not apply for any new cards recently and got shut down recently (for the 2nd time in six months...)

Offline Hamavin

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Oct 2012
  • Posts: 1628
  • Total likes: 3
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6247 on: May 06, 2017, 11:18:23 PM »
How long after you were shut down the first time were you reopened?

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2689
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6248 on: May 07, 2017, 01:17:49 AM »
I did not apply for any new cards recently and got shut down recently (for the 2nd time in six months...)
What was the reason for the shut down? And How did you get back in?

Offline chbochur

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: May 2015
  • Posts: 821
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6249 on: May 07, 2017, 01:46:47 AM »
I spend over the cl every month so I guess it looks risky, a few months back they shut me down due to too many requests for credit after I cleaned out all the credit pulls i asked them to reconsider which they did and reopened my account, hoping to have similar luck this time around

Offline googwallet

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 1232
  • Total likes: 68
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: PA
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6250 on: May 07, 2017, 03:56:26 PM »
Sorry to hear. Stick a fork in it.
Glad I didn't follow your advise. I called in and asked if they can review and reinstate the account. Rep said he would send it over to the team for review. Account was reinstated and I have since completed the spending and received the points. Yay.

So for me it took 3+ years to get a card approved after being AA'd in December of 2013.

Offline a good yeshiva bachur

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Dec 2015
  • Posts: 2689
  • Total likes: 124
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 9
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6251 on: May 08, 2017, 02:29:28 PM »
Glad I didn't follow your advise. I called in and asked if they can review and reinstate the account. Rep said he would send it over to the team for review. Account was reinstated and I have since completed the spending and received the points. Yay.

So for me it took 3+ years to get a card approved after being AA'd in December of 2013.
what where you AAed for?

Offline meraki1990

  • Dansdeals Gold Elite
  • ***
  • Join Date: Aug 2016
  • Posts: 188
  • Total likes: 2
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: IAD
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6252 on: May 08, 2017, 03:17:47 PM »
Has anyone received a call from a partner (Hyatt, Fairmont) regarding invalidated Free Night certs?

Haven't been able to find any information on this so I don't really know.

I had a large purchase that needed to be returned due to item not as described, putting me under the spending threshold in the 114 days, but over the spending period if you consider dates after that. (I've spent at least $1k more than the spending req, even after returns)

Certs seem to have disappeared from my account - has anyone been through this?

Offline yitrap

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Apr 2014
  • Posts: 3315
  • Total likes: 56
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6253 on: May 08, 2017, 04:07:16 PM »
Anyone see chase cards closed from A/A reinstated more then 30 days from closure?

Offline gubevo18

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2014
  • Posts: 1081
  • Total likes: 96
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: here
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6254 on: May 08, 2017, 07:35:33 PM »
So is having a high CL really a reason for A/A?
I just closed a card and , wanting to keep the line of credit I moved it onto a card that now has a $35k+ limit. My other open chase card is already 24k.
Is it not worth it to save the credit or should i just call and have it knocked down to under 25k?
« Last Edit: May 08, 2017, 10:13:46 PM by gubevo18 »

Offline yitrap

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Apr 2014
  • Posts: 3315
  • Total likes: 56
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6255 on: May 08, 2017, 08:11:30 PM »
So is having a high CL really a reason for A/A?
I just closed a card and , wanting to keep the line of credit I moved it onto a card that now has a $35k+ limit. My other open chase card is already 24k.
Is it not worth it to save the credit or should i just call and have it knocked down to under 25k?
I'm not sure what my exact issues was.

Offline Alexsei

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • *********
  • Join Date: Sep 2011
  • Posts: 5831
  • Total likes: 1452
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 5
    • View Profile
    • Travel & Kivrei Zadikim
  • Location: Truckistan
  • Programs: COVID-23
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6256 on: May 08, 2017, 08:50:25 PM »
Is redeeming UR on CSR through the travel portal for a traveller other than the cardholder a trigger?
Jews ≠ Zionists
Palestinians ≠ Hamas
Satmar ≠ SatmarHQ

Offline rollingstone

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite
  • ****
  • Join Date: Nov 2016
  • Posts: 277
  • Total likes: 17
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6257 on: May 08, 2017, 10:04:11 PM »
Is redeeming UR on CSR through the travel portal for a traveller other than the cardholder a trigger?
No

Offline googwallet

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 1232
  • Total likes: 68
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: PA
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6258 on: May 09, 2017, 02:03:58 PM »
what where you AAed for?
High overall CL (even non-Chase cards)

Offline googwallet

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: May 2013
  • Posts: 1232
  • Total likes: 68
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: PA
Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6259 on: May 09, 2017, 02:11:15 PM »
So is having a high CL really a reason for A/A?
I just closed a card and , wanting to keep the line of credit I moved it onto a card that now has a $35k+ limit. My other open chase card is already 24k.
Is it not worth it to save the credit or should i just call and have it knocked down to under 25k?
It's not about having a high limit on one card, they care about your overall CL so if it spikes a lot in a short period of time you are at risk of A/A.