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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699798 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6300 on: May 25, 2017, 10:05:48 AM »
Same thing happened to me

did you fight for them to reopen your other cards?
any luck?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6301 on: May 25, 2017, 10:34:30 AM »
so you think chase is playing fair?
they closed my accounts and when i asked why they wouldnt tell me why.
strange thing is that they left one business card opened

@MR Dan,
what do you suggest I do? is there a way to fight this?
Did you have high balances/high purchases?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6302 on: May 25, 2017, 10:53:45 AM »
did you fight for them to reopen your other cards?
any luck?
I did, No luck

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6303 on: May 26, 2017, 09:07:54 AM »
Did you have high balances/high purchases?

yes. but isnt that good for them? they get money each time i use the credit card. and its always paid in full before due date
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6304 on: May 26, 2017, 09:16:39 AM »
yes. but isnt that good for them? they get money each time i use the credit card. and its always paid in full before due date
In the normal world that makes you a credit risk.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6305 on: May 26, 2017, 09:23:15 AM »
In the normal world that makes you a credit risk.

so for 3 years it was fine with no late payments at all.
and then its normal to be shut down?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6306 on: May 26, 2017, 10:46:38 AM »
is high spending a trigger to get shout down ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6307 on: May 26, 2017, 10:50:21 AM »
There's no algorithm to it

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6308 on: May 26, 2017, 02:28:44 PM »
BTW I  was shut down a month ago on my CSR and ink and FU, and they are not willing to refund the AF (charged in Feb.)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6309 on: May 26, 2017, 03:28:09 PM »
BTW I  was shut down a month ago on my CSR and ink and FU, and they are not willing to refund the AF (charged in Feb.)

I would definitely file a claim with the CFPB

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6310 on: May 26, 2017, 03:35:38 PM »
BTW I  was shut down a month ago on my CSR and ink and FU, and they are not willing to refund the AF (charged in Feb.)
+2X  CSR no luck with AF refund,  just wondering if they are right per the t&c if they cancel the account.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6311 on: May 26, 2017, 04:11:19 PM »
+2X  CSR no luck with AF refund,  just wondering if they are right per the t&c if they cancel the account.
No, they're not. I've looked it up and read it to them... but nothing.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6312 on: May 26, 2017, 05:25:03 PM »
I've had chase refund the af after huca they said since it was still within the 30 days from the charge they can still refund it...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6313 on: May 26, 2017, 05:37:11 PM »
so for 3 years it was fine with no late payments at all.
and then its normal to be shut down?
I had that after 5 years.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6314 on: May 26, 2017, 08:07:21 PM »
Just did a Bestbuy purchase for $2400 using chase Freedom, purchase did not go through, logged into chase account and got this, called chase they are saying a rep will cal me back in 24 to 38 hours, what does this mean?:


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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6315 on: June 02, 2017, 10:43:41 AM »
Yea, seems like chase is cracking down now, it seems like people who have had their accounts shut down like this have had success getting them reinstated. Keep trying and HUCA.
I tried HUCA a few times and they told me our answer is not going to be different than the last person you spoke with. As if they had a record of my phone call. they said it was closed without the possibility of reinstatement.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6316 on: June 02, 2017, 01:02:55 PM »
I tried HUCA a few times and they told me our answer is not going to be different than the last person you spoke with. As if they had a record of my phone call. they said it was closed without the possibility of reinstatement.
They do.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6317 on: June 05, 2017, 10:09:21 PM »
If anyone can please please help me I would really appreciate it. I was shut down a few years ago and now all of a sudden my wife, my brothers, my inlaws, my grandmother, my brother in law were all shut down. If anyone can please help me with someone I can call and get everything straightened out I would really be appreciative. I was using all there cards but not in a crazy way but the point is not why I got shut down but who I can speak to to rectify all of this. I really need to do this so please if anyone has anything let me know

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6318 on: June 05, 2017, 10:24:23 PM »
+2X  CSR no luck with AF refund,  just wondering if they are right per the t&c if they cancel the account.
No, they're not. I've looked it up and read it to them... but nothing.
anyone with copy or link to the t&c regarding annual fee/AF refund.  thanks

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6319 on: June 07, 2017, 05:53:35 AM »
Just had all my credit cards (including business and personal ) shut down with the exception of one buisness credit card. They also closed my checking and savings account.
How long do I have to wait until I can reopen my checking and savings account? Or is it permanently closed ?
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