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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1699110 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6160 on: March 16, 2017, 07:23:39 PM »
in regards to the risk of getting multiple checking account bonuses…I think I’ve gotten it twice before, though not in a while. I just closed my account maybe 6 months ago or so. How high is the risk of reopening checking and savings (depositing $15k) for $500 bonus?
i think you need to wait 12 months to get another bonus

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6161 on: March 17, 2017, 01:29:50 PM »
Any new risks in selling UR these days?
no

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6162 on: March 20, 2017, 07:41:56 PM »
i think you need to wait 12 months to get another bonus

Are saying in terms of risks, or that they simply won't allow it? My coupon says it'll work as long as my account hasn't been closed within 90 days.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6163 on: March 21, 2017, 12:21:58 AM »
On a A/Ad account how can can you get rid of your points within 30 days...Only cash back? Can u transfer into airline or do UR to UR? Also anyone have luck getting there accounts reinstated recently?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6164 on: March 21, 2017, 05:36:18 PM »
Are saying in terms of risks, or that they simply won't allow it? My coupon says it'll work as long as my account hasn't been closed within 90 days.
Bump - I could use your advice, I'd like to open the account tomorrow!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6165 on: March 21, 2017, 08:22:39 PM »
Are saying in terms of risks, or that they simply won't allow it? My coupon says it'll work as long as my account hasn't been closed within 90 days.
I was talking about the allowing it, but if your coupon says it works, then I guess it will...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6166 on: March 21, 2017, 11:26:49 PM »
How many bonuses is generally considered a risk of perk abuse?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6167 on: March 21, 2017, 11:59:01 PM »
On a A/Ad account how can can you get rid of your points within 30 days...Only cash back? Can u transfer into airline or do UR to UR? Also anyone have luck getting there accounts reinstated recently?
You can transfer to an airline or another UR account.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6168 on: March 22, 2017, 08:51:45 AM »
You can transfer to an airline or another UR account.
Its up to 30 days or longer?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6169 on: March 22, 2017, 09:32:39 AM »
Officially​ 30 days. I wouldn't risk testing it.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6170 on: March 22, 2017, 04:19:52 PM »
They are not saying why it was closed....is there anyway to find out?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6171 on: March 22, 2017, 04:24:50 PM »
They are not saying why it was closed....is there anyway to find out?
99.98% no!
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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6172 on: March 22, 2017, 04:25:42 PM »
They are not saying why it was closed....is there anyway to find out?
If you sold points, IMO it's pretty safe to say it was because of that.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6173 on: March 22, 2017, 08:17:39 PM »
I thought if you sold points they will only shut that card from doing transfers. Over here they closed me my wife and bro...with checking

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6174 on: March 22, 2017, 11:14:04 PM »
I thought if you sold points they will only shut that card from doing transfers. Over here they closed me my wife and bro...with checking
Look upthread. Someone put together a list of possible triggers. If you did any of those, you can assume you found your answer

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6175 on: March 22, 2017, 11:21:12 PM »
What is the difference behind if they close just cc or checking also?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6176 on: March 23, 2017, 12:03:00 AM »
What is the difference behind if they close just cc or checking also?
IINM CC shutdowns always include checking accounts but not necessarily vice versa.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6177 on: March 23, 2017, 06:43:11 AM »
IINM CC shutdowns always include checking accounts but not necessarily vice versa.
That's not true. All my cc were shutdown but they never touched my checking account. Same thing happened to other as well. Although, there are also cases where they closed everything.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6178 on: March 23, 2017, 08:57:17 AM »
Anyone able to have there cards reinstated recently or no such thing?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6179 on: March 23, 2017, 09:48:44 AM »
all my cc were frozen after i added a AU and made a transfer and took the AU off my account.
was frozen until i called them and they told me that they froze my account because it looked like activity like that shouldnt be on my account.
i said i got into a fight with my friend and thats why i had to take him off my account.
they unfroze my account.

was this the begining of an A/A that i avoided?
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