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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6400 on: December 22, 2017, 04:21:37 PM »
Just got all my accounts closed. Haven't churned in years...
Wow. Nothing to trigger it?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6401 on: December 23, 2017, 12:24:23 AM »
There's always a trigger.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6402 on: December 23, 2017, 06:19:47 PM »
There's always a trigger.
Except they won't tell you.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6403 on: December 23, 2017, 08:12:59 PM »
Except they won't tell you.
But of course you can tell .
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6404 on: December 23, 2017, 08:13:28 PM »
But of course you can tell .
Not always.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6405 on: December 23, 2017, 11:10:32 PM »
But of course you can tell .
A couple of large wires in a short period out of my business account is only thing I can think of but hello it's a business...

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Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6406 on: December 23, 2017, 11:13:01 PM »
A couple of large wires in a short period out of my business account is only thing I can think of but hello it's a business...
Chase really doesn't like wire transfers. Call the executive office for a review of the closure, good chance you can get it reopened 
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6407 on: December 24, 2017, 12:22:45 AM »
I hope so. They closed personal also, really frustrating. I have every one of my accounts with them.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6408 on: December 24, 2017, 02:57:25 AM »
A couple of large wires in a short period out of my business account is only thing I can think of but hello it's a business...
Sorry to hear this,  I never banked with Chase, I have both business and personal accounts with BMO Harris , we send and receive a lot of wires too, cash and money orders deposits etc, I stayed away from Chase although they call us frequently to open a business account.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6409 on: December 24, 2017, 03:56:48 AM »
Just got all my accounts closed. Haven't churned in years...
You took out your points?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6410 on: December 24, 2017, 09:44:37 AM »
You took out your points?
In the past 2 years all I did was transfer to my wife.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6411 on: December 25, 2017, 01:42:24 PM »
In the past 2 years all I did was transfer to my wife.
I mean like now after the fact...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6412 on: January 08, 2018, 03:15:15 PM »
Memories last forever, make them while you can.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6413 on: January 09, 2018, 08:05:26 PM »
just got all personal ccs and personal checking closed is it a matter of time before the  business checking and biz cards go too?
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6414 on: January 16, 2018, 09:13:38 PM »
Seems like the class action will be paying out at .82 cents per point forfeited

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6415 on: January 16, 2018, 09:18:24 PM »
just got all personal ccs and personal checking closed is it a matter of time before the  business checking and biz cards go too?
Not necessarily.
I just found a new supply of forks!

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6416 on: January 16, 2018, 09:28:45 PM »
Here's the settlement court approval

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6417 on: January 17, 2018, 01:24:18 AM »
Any last ditch effort my credit card accounts closing on the 30 days I transferred out the points they said they did 2nd review and no more reconsidering .any other route? Back office? I tried executive department nothing different

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6418 on: January 17, 2018, 10:41:54 PM »
Here's the settlement court approval
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #6419 on: January 17, 2018, 11:52:16 PM »
I got check in mail for 450 yesterday....