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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1708100 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4080 on: December 27, 2013, 01:31:08 AM »
Just hit the trifecta. What a Christmas gift.  >:(

Who else got you?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4081 on: December 27, 2013, 01:33:32 AM »
Who else got you?
It would be a full time job to list everyone. Third time for my accounts with Chase. All business cards (UA/IP/IB) this time.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4082 on: December 27, 2013, 01:42:46 AM »
It would be a full time job to list everyone. Third time for my accounts with Chase. All business cards (UA/IP/IB) this time.
??? how did you get that far?
Didn't know there was resurrection of the dead with Chase.
No past reports of anybody coming back

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4083 on: December 27, 2013, 02:01:14 AM »
No past reports of anybody coming back
Many reports after AARP AA.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4084 on: December 27, 2013, 02:22:31 AM »
It would be a full time job to list everyone. Third time for my accounts with Chase. All business cards (UA/IP/IB) this time.
Care to share what your haul was? I enjoy being in awe...

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4085 on: December 27, 2013, 02:51:46 AM »
Care to share what your haul was? I enjoy being in awe...
Nothing special. Sign up bonuses for all three. IP 250k for spend and IB 500k for spend. I can't remember if I churned these cards (IB/IP) on this account.
Only on DDF does 24/6 mean 24/5/half/half

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4086 on: December 27, 2013, 03:07:38 AM »
Nothing special. Sign up bonuses for all three. IP 250k for spend and IB 500k for spend. I can't remember if I churned these cards (IB/IP) on this account.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4087 on: December 27, 2013, 12:05:32 PM »
 :-X

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4088 on: December 27, 2013, 01:20:23 PM »
:-X
Don't keep your hopes to high,
From past reports it seems, they will shut it down within a few days

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4089 on: December 27, 2013, 03:09:01 PM »
I don't get it! There are 12 people who've selected "I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal" in the poll. Isn't it past time they speak up?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4090 on: December 27, 2013, 03:16:45 PM »
Ages ago. I don't remember a single story posted here in the last year.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4091 on: December 27, 2013, 03:33:09 PM »
I don't get it! There are 12 people who've selected "I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal" in the poll. Isn't it past time they speak up?
This is still from the AARP times, the past few months the vote didn't go up.
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4092 on: December 28, 2013, 08:28:56 PM »
I have just been A'A'ed  >:(, I have have 3 personnel cards with them (SP, Freedom and have signed up for the United about 2 weeks ago) as well as the Business Ink Bold.

All together I have (had) 125k UR, but thats nothing compared to my real fear, I've been reading that people have had relatives (especially with same address) closed as well. This would be terrible as my parents (whose home I live in), use Chase for checking and all their banking needs for both personnel and business!

I can't imagine how upset my parents would be if Chase were to (g-d forbid..) close their accounts. They would have my head especially since they never approved of this CC game in the first place.

Can anyone perhaps shed some light? again my main concern is others losing their accounts, although I obviously would love get back my miles too... but from what i've read here that seems almost impossible..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4093 on: December 28, 2013, 08:32:17 PM »
I have just been A'A'ed  >:(, I have have 3 personnel cards with them (SP, Freedom and have signed up for the United about 2 weeks ago) as well as the Business Ink Bold.

All together I have (had) 125k UR, but thats nothing compared to my real fear, I've been reading that people have had relatives (especially with same address) closed as well. This would be terrible as my parents (whose home I live in), use Chase for checking and all their banking needs for both personnel and business!

I can't imagine how upset my parents would be if Chase were to (g-d forbid..) close their accounts. They would have my head especially since they never approved of this CC game in the first place.

Can anyone perhaps shed some light? again my main concern is others losing their accounts, although I obviously would love get back my miles too... but from what i've read here that seems almost impossible..

What did you do?
Don't tell your parents. If Chase shuts them down, they won't send a letter saying that it's because of you.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4094 on: December 28, 2013, 08:53:22 PM »
What did you do?
Don't tell your parents. If Chase shuts them down, they won't send a letter saying that it's because of you.
I really don't know.

I have never withdraw my AP account to Chase checking.
I don't do crazy spending, my statements are usually around 1-2k, but most of the time less.
I don't manufacture spend. (One exception to that was last week when [for the first time] I spent 1k on my Ink at staples for GC's, but I have no clue how that could be a trigger).
I have never transferred points to an account other than my own
The last card I applied for besides this United one, was the Ink in August
Can't think of anything else..

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4095 on: December 28, 2013, 09:31:41 PM »
I really don't know.

I have never withdraw my AP account to Chase checking.
I don't do crazy spending, my statements are usually around 1-2k, but most of the time less.
I don't manufacture spend. (One exception to that was last week when [for the first time] I spent 1k on my Ink at staples for GC's, but I have no clue how that could be a trigger).
I have never transferred points to an account other than my own
The last card I applied for besides this United one, was the Ink in August
Can't think of anything else..
What was your total CL?
You can say what you think when you think what you say.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4096 on: December 28, 2013, 09:42:05 PM »
What was your total CL?
74K total, 20 of that was Chase.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4097 on: December 28, 2013, 09:51:43 PM »
74K total, 20 of that was Chase.
there you go... that's what bothers them..
but just to make sure.. yuo'll be getting letters from them in a week (one letter for each account) with the "official" reason

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4098 on: December 28, 2013, 10:07:58 PM »
there you go... that's what bothers them..
but just to make sure.. yuo'll be getting letters from them in a week (one letter for each account) with the "official" reason
And that's why they are idiots  >:( >:( Why can't they do what Amex does (slash CL) Amex didn't go bankrupt yet. I hope you Chase go bankrupt soon  >:(   (and TD comes in with a gooe reward system, so we don't loos out)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #4099 on: December 28, 2013, 10:31:20 PM »
there you go... that's what bothers them..
but just to make sure.. yuo'll be getting letters from them in a week (one letter for each account) with the "official" reason
I think this should be better documented. This should be added to the topic wiki, as I have never read anywhere (besides for now going through some of the 270+ pages) that a high credit limit is an issue. In fact I bet most users here have a total CL around what mine was or possibly higher.

I know I'm one isolated case... But truthfully I didn't do any of the red flags that people mention here, my advice: cash out! empty your UR.
I still hope this won't affect any other family members.