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Q: Hi, I searched all over the internet for an active link of the Chase American Airlines credit card and couldn't find one. How did you guys manage to get this card?
A: Ha ha... There's (currently) no co-branded Chase AA credit card, this thread is discussing 'Chase Adverse Action'. As a general rule, AA refers to 'American Airlines', while A/A refers to 'Adverse Action'.

Q: What does Chase A/A look like? Can I do something to prevent that from happening? And once I'm hit, is there anything I can do to get back in the game?
A: To better address all the questions and concerns, we'll divide it in three sections:

1) What Are The Triggers?
2) What Happens?
3) How To Get Back

What Are The Triggers?

Basically, there are two possibilities that might trigger a Chase A/A:
Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional user is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user has been a trigger for many people - Dec 2013);
-A sudden excessive use of your cards;
-Maxing out your available credit limit.
-Buying large amounts of Chase GC (most people didn't have problems but lately some people are getting shut down for this).
Of course, there is no general rule with these things, it mostly varies by your particular credit file and worthiness.

Perk Abuse
-Transferring Ultimate Rewards points to someone else's account other than your spouse or domestic partner;
 both, the sender and the recipient, are at risk of A/A.
-Abuse of the 5% cashback bonus on the AARP card.

What Happens?

Q: What does a Chase A/A look like? How do I know whether I was shut down or not?
A: If you can't access your online account on chase.com, this is not A/A.
    When you encounter such a thing it could be because 1) the website is undergoing maintenance - wait till the site is back up; 2) a sever error - try using
    different browser
; 3) you didn't log in to your account for a while - call the number on the back of your card; 4) a security concern (resulted by a large QuickPay
    transfer or similar - call the number on the back of your card.
    When you get hit by A/A, you'll see a message above your account "Your account is closed and no longer available for use. If you have a balance remaining on the account, please continue to
    make monthly payments by the due date."; your card will no longer work; and within 7 days you'll receive a letter in the mail notifying you of the closure and the reason to it.
Q: Do they close down all my cards or just one?
A: If your shutdown was a result of 'credit related risk', they usually close all your credit card accounts, while with 'perk abusers' they used to shut down all of your cards (April '12), but lately, it is limited to the accounts involved in the abuse.
Q: Do they shut down other accounts such as checking, savings or investment accounts?
A: Lately people are reporting getting their checking account closed when getting A/A'd.
Q: Once my card is closed, can I still access my points?
A: Again there's a difference whats the reason your account was closed. Ironically, if its because of 'credit risk', your points will be forfeited, (and that used to be the case with 'perk abusers' during the April '12 A/A wave), but if its because of 'perk abuse', you'll get a certain amount of time (from 2 to 90 days - as specified on your letter) to transfer or redeem your points.

How To Get Back

Q: Once one was shut down, is there any point of calling  customer service or any other department and try to convince them to reopen the closed accounts?
A: If your account was closed due to 'perk abuse' there is -almost- no way to convince them to reopen it (unless there was an error, and you really didn't commit any violations of the
     terms and conditions).
     But if your account was closed for credit related reasons, you might have luck by calling the executive dept. 1888-622-7547 and trying to explain them why it might've looked like your at risk of default, but in fact, there is nothing to worry about. But of course YMMV with this.
Q: Can I apply for a new credit card after my accounts were closed?
A: Yes. There are a multiple reports of people being approved for a new Chase card after waiting a few months and applying again. But some were not that lucky, and some had their new accounts closed a few days after approval.
« Last edited by Iz on March 22, 2017, 11:26:51 PM »

Poll

Have You Been A/A'ed?

Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received 1 Cent Per Point :(
10 (1.6%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down And Received Nothing For My Points >:(
62 (10%)
No (Bli Ayin Horah)
455 (73.4%)
I Was Shut Down But Was Able To Get Reopened After Appeal
24 (3.9%)
Yes, I've Been Shut Down But Was Able To Transfer Points To Miles
69 (11.1%)

Total Members Voted: 618

Author Topic: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)  (Read 1705102 times)

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5320 on: December 09, 2014, 01:02:54 PM »
From the wiki
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Credit Related Risk
-Opening too many new cards in a short period of time, (even from other banks, and even being added as an additional is considered as opening a new account, even a spike in your total CL even from being  additional user  has lately been a trigger for many people - Dec, 2013)
Are business cards (from other banks) also part of "too many new cards in a short period of time" and "a spike in your total CL"?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5321 on: December 09, 2014, 11:08:02 PM »
From the wikiAre business cards (from other banks) also part of "too many new cards in a short period of time" and "a spike in your total CL"?
No, because business cards aren't reported to your personal credit report, so chase would therefore have no idea of any business cards opened at other banks.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5322 on: December 10, 2014, 12:36:24 AM »
No, because business cards aren't reported to your personal credit report, so chase would therefore have no idea of any business cards opened at other banks.
You are assuming Chase only looks at personal reports from the big three. I would not assume that.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5323 on: December 10, 2014, 12:57:35 AM »
You are assuming Chase only looks at personal reports from the big three. I would not assume that.
I know someone who's been A/A'd, and the Chase reps knew exactly how much he owed on each and every business card he had.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5324 on: December 10, 2014, 01:00:36 AM »
I know someone who's been A/A'd, and the Chase reps knew exactly how much he owed on each and every business card he had.
There are many different reports out there that they can get all types of info. One service will show every request for credit no matter what report they pulled.
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5325 on: December 10, 2014, 10:26:26 AM »
You are assuming Chase only looks at personal reports from the big three. I would not assume that.

Hmmm, so the theory 'you can maxout a business card, and it won't affect you negatively' is a myth?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5326 on: December 10, 2014, 11:28:55 AM »

Hmmm, so the theory 'you can maxout a business card, and it won't affect you negatively' is a myth?
It won't affect your EX, EQ, and TU score, which is all you really need to get cards.
It only shows up on those 'other' reports (assuming THAT is not a myth) when pulled for 'other' reasons.

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5327 on: December 10, 2014, 12:36:52 PM »
It won't affect your EX, EQ, and TU score, which is all you really need to get cards.
It only shows up on those 'other' reports (assuming THAT is not a myth) when pulled for 'other' reasons.
You should do a little research first before making posts like these.  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5328 on: December 10, 2014, 01:36:55 PM »
its now 1 year since chase closed my father account . is it  time to try to open again or it a waste of a pull ?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5329 on: December 10, 2014, 02:08:05 PM »

It won't affect your EX, EQ, and TU score, which is all you really need to get cards.
It only shows up on those 'other' reports (CM says THAT is not a myth, and he usually knows what he's talking) when pulled for 'other' reasons.
You should do a little research first before making posts like these.  ;)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5330 on: December 10, 2014, 02:55:22 PM »
I'll have an appointment with a Chase banker in about 1.5 hrs about my A/A and possibly wife's well, to try reinstate (happened about 2 yrs ago).
Anything I should/shouldn't say/know about?
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« Reply #5331 on: December 10, 2014, 04:12:45 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5332 on: December 10, 2014, 06:32:35 PM »

I'll have an appointment with a Chase banker in about 1.5 hrs about my A/A and possibly wife's well, to try reinstate (happened about 2 yrs ago).
Anything I should/shouldn't say/know about?
How'd that meeting go?

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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5333 on: December 10, 2014, 06:42:12 PM »
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
« Reply #5335 on: December 10, 2014, 07:58:36 PM »
How'd that meeting go?
Can't talk about it  ::)
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Can't talk about it  ::)
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Re: Chase A/A Master Thread (Now With Poll)
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