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Author Topic: All Halocha Shailos and teiffa Questions  (Read 125398 times)

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #90 on: February 23, 2012, 02:15:49 PM »
Depends which market you are invested in... And that is cool. Did they give a svara?
all they said was that the poskim come out its ok ( i knew it was a hock) but i will ask them for more info

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #91 on: March 05, 2012, 11:39:35 AM »
Just saw this new sefer that's sure to interest many of us here:
"הטשעק בהלכה"
בהלכות קרעדיט קארדס - עסקי באנק - סטאקס - באנדס - טרענספערס - וואוטשערס ועוד


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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #92 on: March 05, 2012, 11:48:49 AM »
Just saw this new sefer that's sure to interest many of us here:
"הטשעק בהלכה"
בהלכות קרעדיט קארדס - עסקי באנק - סטאקס - באנדס - טרענספערס - וואוטשערס ועוד

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #93 on: March 05, 2012, 11:56:10 AM »
Who is it written by?
Don't know. This forum user says the author is פינחס מנחם ליפשיץ

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #94 on: March 05, 2012, 12:08:05 PM »
Don't know. This forum user says the author is פינחס מנחם ליפשיץ
Oh I thought you have the book.
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All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #95 on: June 25, 2012, 09:08:40 AM »
Yes.
And if anyone wants to fuss about it, please do it here or here, or make a new thread.

If you don't mind explaining I thought that you can't receive anything in return for maaser?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #96 on: June 25, 2012, 09:14:22 AM »
1. How are you receiving anything in return? Money that you could have spend on yourself (albeit with a bit more difficulty) and instead spent on צדקה, is your money given to צדקה. What's the difference if you give $10 to צדקה, or $10 amex credit to צדקה. Just like you can deduct a $10 cash donation from the מעשר money that you owe, so too, you can deduct a $10 amex credit from the מעשר money that you owe.

2. Even according to your presumption that you are getting something in return for Maaser:
If you have "The laws of Tzedakah and Maaser" (Artscroll), check pp 149 for a far more novel situation.
In case you don't have it, pertinent quote in footnote 31:
שו"ת אג"מ יו"ד ח"א סי' קמ"ג, דאפילו הנאה וריוח ממש הבאה לאדם ע"י גרם הצדקה שנתן שייך לו ולא לצדקה
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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #97 on: June 25, 2012, 09:16:14 AM »
1. How are you receiving anything in return? Money that you could have spend on yourself (albeit with a bit more difficulty) and instead spent on צדקה, is your money given to צדקה. What's the difference if you give $10 to צדקה, or $10 amex credit to צדקה.

2. Even according to your presumption that you are getting something in return for Maaser:
If you have "The laws of Tzedakah and Maaser" (Artscroll), check pp 149 for a far more novel situation.
In case you don't have it, pertinent quote in footnote 31:
שו"ת אג"מ יו"ד ח"א סי' קמ"ג, דאפילו הנאה וריוח ממש הבאה לאדם ע"י גרם הצדקה שנתן שייך לו ולא לצדקה

as for point one I wan't sure about that in this situation since as you said as of now there is not a very practical way for you to spend the credit on yourself

Ill have to check it up thanks

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #98 on: June 25, 2012, 09:21:04 AM »
as for point one I wan't sure about that in this situation since as you said as of now there is not a very practical way for you to spend the credit on yourself
For the sake of argument, let us suppose - as you say - that I have absolutely no other way of spending the money at all.
So what?
The amex credit is still my money, and I can exercise the right to give it to צדקה or not. If I do give it, I have given צדקה from that which is mine. Why shouldn't I be able to deduct it from the מעשר money that I owe?

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All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #99 on: June 25, 2012, 09:23:12 AM »
For the sake of argument, let us suppose - as you say - that I have absolutely no other way of spending the money at all.
So what?
The amex credit is still my money, and I can exercise the right to give it to צדקה or not. If I do give it, I have given צדקה from that which is mine. Why shouldn't I be able to deduct it from the מעשר money that I owe?

But do you get to count what tzedaka gains or what you are losing? Does this credit have a $10 value to you?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #100 on: June 25, 2012, 09:30:45 AM »
Does this credit have a $10 value to you?
Yes it does. I can fly to Boston and use it there. I can give it to my fourth cousin's friend's ex-classmate who lives in Boston and would like to use it for me. Etc etc. The fact that I do not find it convenient to do so does not negate its intrinsic value.

Let me ask you a question:
Let's say you are on a flight leaving Israel with 10 Shek in your pocket, and you know that you have no way of using it back home in the USA. You also know that you are not returning to Israel in the foreseeable future [Golus plan]. So, you decide to give the 10 Shek to a Meshulach on the plane who is collecting money. Are you not entitled to deduct that against what you owe Maser?
I imagine you will answer yes.
Well, how is this case different?

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #101 on: June 25, 2012, 10:11:00 AM »
i would say it can come from masser, but u still need to give another $1 from the $10 you made!

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #102 on: June 27, 2012, 11:10:27 AM »
Yes it does. I can fly to Boston and use it there. I can give it to my fourth cousin's friend's ex-classmate who lives in Boston and would like to use it for me. Etc etc. The fact that I do not find it convenient to do so does not negate its intrinsic value.

Let me ask you a question:
Let's say you are on a flight leaving Israel with 10 Shek in your pocket, and you know that you have no way of using it back home in the USA. You also know that you are not returning to Israel in the foreseeable future [Golus plan]. So, you decide to give the 10 Shek to a Meshulach on the plane who is collecting money. Are you not entitled to deduct that against what you owe Maser?
I imagine you will answer yes.
Well, how is this case different?
huge dif between giving something that you have opposed to causing someone to gain cuz of you withoutt you actually giving anything. if you would give the meshulach 10 shech and then someone else repays you that may be maiser, but informing aq meshulach where he can find 10 shech that you could of taken for yourself is dif

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #103 on: June 27, 2012, 02:23:03 PM »
huge dif between giving something that you have opposed to causing someone to gain cuz of you withoutt you actually giving anything. if you would give the meshulach 10 shech and then someone else repays you that may be maiser, but informing aq meshulach where he can find 10 shech that you could of taken for yourself is dif

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Re: All Halocha Shailos and teffia Questions
« Reply #104 on: June 27, 2012, 08:19:53 PM »