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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #280 on: November 29, 2016, 12:37:59 AM »
why do you guys think that? I never heard that assumption made.
I do think people assume that there are some wildly successful fundraiser shluchim, like R Cunin, and they extrapolate to others, but not that every chabad house is bankrolled by CH

Isn't it just a fundraiser?

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #281 on: November 29, 2016, 12:51:01 AM »

you sure he meant "a fundraiser for Merkos to raise money and then send to Chabad Houses around the world"?

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #282 on: November 29, 2016, 12:54:37 AM »
you sure he meant "a fundraiser for Merkos to raise money and then send to Chabad Houses around the world"?
Not sure he meant it, but it's a sentiment I hear all the time.

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #283 on: November 29, 2016, 12:57:18 AM »
Not sure he meant it, but it's a sentiment I hear all the time.
one last note, It is an opportunity for donors to meet shluchim and donate directly, which could add to confusion for non-lubavitchers as well.
for example
https://player.vimeo.com/video/45458380

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #284 on: November 29, 2016, 06:32:12 AM »
you sure he meant "a fundraiser for Merkos to raise money and then send to Chabad Houses around the world"?
Yeah that's what I thought.

Are you telling me shlichim don't get a salary from the home base? That they are responsible to rent/buy the location?

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #285 on: November 29, 2016, 06:48:41 AM »
Yeah that's what I thought.

Are you telling me shlichim don't get a salary from the home base? That they are responsible to rent/buy the location?
Yup.

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #286 on: November 29, 2016, 07:56:59 AM »
Yeah that's what I thought.

Are you telling me shlichim don't get a salary from the home base? That they are responsible to rent/buy the location?
Think of it like a franchise.
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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #287 on: November 29, 2016, 12:51:35 PM »
Just a word about fundraising in Chabad that might help clarify.

For the most part, Chabad shluchim do not fundraise. As one shliach once put it to me, “I did a fundraising visit today with a donor. I went to his office and learned parshah with him for 20 minutes. A few months ago I put mezuzos on his doors. He puts on Tefillin with me once a week.”

Can you differentiate his behavior with this big donor and another member of his community?

Sure, wealthy people may have a leg up in being sought out more so as to enable shluchim to do their work and cater to those without means. But the fundraising effort is shlichus work in and of itself. Beyond the few minutes when actual money is discussed, you’re inviting the people over for a Shabbos, learning with them, and helping them grow in their Yiddishkeit.

Even events like dinners and benefits which have a decidedly fundraising nature, are commonly designed as “peulos” – that is, events to bolster the Jewish community in some way. In fact, events I have been part of that did not have that angle, and were purely money makers, did not do nearly as well.

The kinus is not a fundraiser. As stated, it costs Merkos L’Inyonei Chinuch a pretty penny (I would estimate the budget for the entire weekend to be in the region of $1,000,000). Community members are given the chance to participate in the banquet which concludes the kinus. It is an extremely inspiring event – one that directly leads to an increase in Torah and mitzvos for many guests in attendance. For many shluchim who bring guests to the kinus, they don’t necessarily choose the ones with the most money, but the ones that are most likely to be inspired by the event.

Yes, it certainly helps build relationships with donors and no doubt leads to increased donations from some participants. But fundraising is not the goal. It almost never is.

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #288 on: November 29, 2016, 01:44:53 PM »
Just a random question. What language is the word "merkos"??

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #289 on: November 29, 2016, 01:48:42 PM »
Just a random question. What language is the word "merkos"??
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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #290 on: November 29, 2016, 01:49:32 PM »
Merkaz

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #291 on: November 29, 2016, 01:52:30 PM »
Merkaz
מֶרְכָּז

http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/7688/why-is-merkos-linyonei-chinuch-spelled-that-way

If it were up to the current people running things, they would probably spell it "Merkaz L'Inyanei Chinuch", like a lot of the things they spell in ways I cannot stand. Though I would have spelled it Merkoz.
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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #292 on: November 29, 2016, 01:54:47 PM »
OK Merkoz

Zayin is Z
Samech or sin is an S

No?
Eta I saw your link

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #293 on: November 29, 2016, 01:57:54 PM »
מֶרְכָּז

http://judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/7688/why-is-merkos-linyonei-chinuch-spelled-that-way

If it were up to the current people running things, they would probably spell it "Merkaz L'Inyanei Chinuch", like a lot of the things they spell in ways I cannot stand. Though I would have spelled it Merkoz.
This appears to be the answer according to the link...  ::)
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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #294 on: November 29, 2016, 02:03:32 PM »
This appears to be the answer according to the link...  ::)
Do you know how to scroll down and see actual answers?
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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #295 on: November 29, 2016, 02:05:10 PM »
Do you know how to scroll down and see actual answers?
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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #296 on: November 29, 2016, 05:32:19 PM »
Just a word about fundraising in Chabad that might help clarify.

For the most part, Chabad shluchim do not fundraise. As one shliach once put it to me, “I did a fundraising visit today with a donor. I went to his office and learned parshah with him for 20 minutes. A few months ago I put mezuzos on his doors. He puts on Tefillin with me once a week.”

Can you differentiate his behavior with this big donor and another member of his community?

Sure, wealthy people may have a leg up in being sought out more so as to enable shluchim to do their work and cater to those without means. But the fundraising effort is shlichus work in and of itself. Beyond the few minutes when actual money is discussed, you’re inviting the people over for a Shabbos, learning with them, and helping them grow in their Yiddishkeit.

Even events like dinners and benefits which have a decidedly fundraising nature, are commonly designed as “peulos” – that is, events to bolster the Jewish community in some way. In fact, events I have been part of that did not have that angle, and were purely money makers, did not do nearly as well.

The kinus is not a fundraiser. As stated, it costs Merkos L’Inyonei Chinuch a pretty penny (I would estimate the budget for the entire weekend to be in the region of $1,000,000). Community members are given the chance to participate in the banquet which concludes the kinus. It is an extremely inspiring event – one that directly leads to an increase in Torah and mitzvos for many guests in attendance. For many shluchim who bring guests to the kinus, they don’t necessarily choose the ones with the most money, but the ones that are most likely to be inspired by the event.

Yes, it certainly helps build relationships with donors and no doubt leads to increased donations from some participants. But fundraising is not the goal. It almost never is.
You are mostly correct but you make it sound like Shluchim just put up Friday night dinners, put Tefillin on people and the money just flows right in. Not quite.

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
« Reply #297 on: November 29, 2016, 05:37:44 PM »
You are mostly correct but you make it sound like Shluchim just put up Friday night dinners, put Tefillin on people and the money just flows right in. Not quite.
correct, in a sense.
much to the shliach's chagrin, extra effort needs to be made to cultivate those members most able to support their efforts. Yet even those relationships, by and large, revolve primarily around the same קירוב הלבבות, אהבת ישראל and חיזוק היהדות that is the focus of everything else they're doing

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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
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Re: Kinnus HaShluchim
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