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"S from Citi"
« on: November 29, 2011, 03:23:44 PM »
Interesting comment left on the main site, especially if the commenter is legit...
1.88cpm...can it really be?

"Hi I work for Citi, first with Citibank and recently switched to Citicards. With citibank i managed programs that sent out e-mail and direct mail offers to our cards customer base, offering incentives to open a checking account. For our AA card members,we currently offer 23,500 for a citigold account or 10,000 for a citibank to targeted existed card members (ECM’s). They used to be higher but we had to lower them due to the cost of the miles. AA charges us .0188 per mile – and has for a while. We have been prepaying for several months already (they made that switch on us a few months ago). By we I mean citibank, I don’t know the deal they have with Citicards who mail out offers to open cards (that is the team I am joining soon).
When we gave out 30,000 miles that equates to $564 CPA in contra revenue expense. Compare that to the cash corrolary that we give our dividend card members ($150 cash for citigold or $100 for Citibank) and our AA customers are so much more expensive. Our “partner” charges us incredible amounts for miles… but their populations are always the most responsive which is why we keep paying up.
Dan I love your blog and can give you some information if you ever want to hit me up. In my new role with Citi cards (direct mail team) I will be part of a team managing offers tens of millions of direct mail pieces monthly, which include a few rich offer tests. Soon I will be an expert on all Citicards rewards and know what will be upcoming.
Peace,
S"
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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2011, 03:26:48 PM »
what email address did he leave you?

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2011, 03:27:39 PM »
Interesting comment left on the main site, especially if the commenter is legit...
1.88cpm...can it really be?


Seems a little high...but wow..if it's true it's some nice insider information...hope their boss doesn't read dansdeals!

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2011, 03:28:10 PM »
what email address did he leave you?
Straight for the jugular.  ::)

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #4 on: November 29, 2011, 03:28:15 PM »
Interesting comment left on the main site, especially if the commenter is legit...
1.88cpm...can it really be?

"Hi I work for Citi, first with Citibank and recently switched to Citicards. With citibank i managed programs that sent out e-mail and direct mail offers to our cards customer base, offering incentives to open a checking account. For our AA card members,we currently offer 23,500 for a citigold account or 10,000 for a citibank to targeted existed card members (ECM’s). They used to be higher but we had to lower them due to the cost of the miles. AA charges us .0188 per mile – and has for a while. We have been prepaying for several months already (they made that switch on us a few months ago). By we I mean citibank, I don’t know the deal they have with Citicards who mail out offers to open cards (that is the team I am joining soon).
When we gave out 30,000 miles that equates to $564 CPA in contra revenue expense. Compare that to the cash corrolary that we give our dividend card members ($150 cash for citigold or $100 for Citibank) and our AA customers are so much more expensive. Our “partner” charges us incredible amounts for miles… but their populations are always the most responsive which is why we keep paying up.
Dan I love your blog and can give you some information if you ever want to hit me up. In my new role with Citi cards (direct mail team) I will be part of a team managing offers tens of millions of direct mail pieces monthly, which include a few rich offer tests. Soon I will be an expert on all Citicards rewards and know what will be upcoming.
Peace,
S"

Something's not right about this... I believe that marketing personnel are not allowed to disclose or discuss company strategy.

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #5 on: November 29, 2011, 03:29:03 PM »
Straight for the jugular.  ::)
Something's not right about this... I believe that marketing personnel are not allowed to disclose or discuss company strategy.

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #6 on: November 29, 2011, 03:37:03 PM »
Straight for the jugular.  ::)
what i meant is not give me his email but is his email legit i.e a citibank email address or something made up

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #7 on: November 29, 2011, 04:28:56 PM »
what i meant is not give me his email but is his email legit i.e a citibank email address or something made up
Even if he is legit I doubt he would give his business address that would be a little careless on his part ime

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #8 on: November 29, 2011, 04:44:37 PM »
I noticed this as well.
What motives might he have if he wasn't legit?

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #9 on: November 29, 2011, 04:48:41 PM »
What seemed odd to me is that AA is charging a different rate to citibank and citicards.
Then I realize the cc is an interest for AA too as it induces loyalty for people who earn and fly aa.
There's no way in hell citi is pre-paying 1.88 CPM as they don't make that in cc charges - the merchant only pays 2-3% and some of that goes to Visa/mc/amex.
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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #10 on: November 29, 2011, 04:57:32 PM »
What seemed odd to me is that AA is charging a different rate to citibank and citicards.
Then I realize the cc is an interest for AA too as it induces loyalty for people who earn and fly aa.
There's no way in hell citi is pre-paying 1.88 CPM as they don't make that in cc charges - the merchant only pays 2-3% and some of that goes to Visa/mc/amex.

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #11 on: November 29, 2011, 07:34:57 PM »
I recall that when amex was buying miles from delta during the bankruptcy proceedings, it was disclosed how much they paid and how many miles they bought.  Numbers escape me now though.  The curious could google...

1.88 cpm sounds high but then, the airlines make their money (if they make money at all) on selling miles...

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #12 on: November 29, 2011, 08:00:46 PM »
Something's not right about this... I believe that marketing personnel are not allowed to disclose or discuss company strategy.
There are plenty of them though.
Ever heard of "Jon from Sprint"?
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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #13 on: November 29, 2011, 08:26:47 PM »
Alright, which one of you jokers is D from Chase:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/17825/comment-page-1#comment-99387
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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #14 on: November 29, 2011, 08:34:20 PM »
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Re: "S from Citi"
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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #16 on: November 29, 2011, 08:46:16 PM »
Heh, I was right, "D" is a forum member per the i.p. logs.
I'll let him reveal himself.
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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2011, 08:48:15 PM »
Whoa...just pulled up the whois ip on "S from Citi"

NetName:        CITI-199-xx-xxx-xxx
NetHandle:      NET-199-xx-xxx-x-x
Parent:         NET-199-0-0-0-0
NetType:        Direct Allocation
RegDate:        1994-01-20
Updated:        2009-06-16
Ref:            http://whois.arin.net/rest/net/NET-199-xx-xxx-x-x
OrgName:        Citigroup
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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2011, 08:49:19 PM »
Heh, I was right, "D" is a forum member per the i.p. logs.
I'll let him reveal himself.
I'd be very surprised if a non-DDF member wrote it. It's too good...
(Maybe that excludes some here as well? ;) )

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Re: "S from Citi"
« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2011, 08:56:58 PM »