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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2740 on: January 30, 2017, 08:29:11 PM »
Does this really happen?
I was just in court and of the 10 or so cases I saw, they were either found guilty, not guilty or it was held for more information. There was no bargaining down, even for someone who the judge seemed to have sympathy for (but was found guilty).
You speak to the prosecutor before you go before the judge, the prosecutor can agree to give you a different violation (less points and/or lower fine) and when you get to the judge you plead guilty to the violation you agreed to with the prosecutor.

In NJ it's not so easy to plead down to a parking ticket.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2741 on: January 30, 2017, 09:47:46 PM »
You speak to the prosecutor before you go before the judge, the prosecutor can agree to give you a different violation (less points and/or lower fine) and when you get to the judge you plead guilty to the violation you agreed to with the prosecutor.

In NJ it's not so easy to plead down to a parking ticket.
How do you get ahold of the prosecutor? Should I just get a lawyer or I can do this?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2742 on: January 30, 2017, 09:54:40 PM »
How do you get ahold of the prosecutor? Should I just get a lawyer or I can do this?
The 1 time I did it, when I walked into the court room there was a line waiting to speak to the prosecutor and when it was my turn she looked at my record and offered a plea bargain to which I agreed.
I wonder what people who type "u" instead of "you" do with all their free time.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2743 on: January 31, 2017, 08:53:08 AM »
The 1 time I did it, when I walked into the court room there was a line waiting to speak to the prosecutor and when it was my turn she looked at my record and offered a plea bargain to which I agreed.
In long Island? What type of ticket?

Just also did the plea bargain route but came out to paying $700, don't see what the bargain is

Did anyone ever enroll in nassau county cell phone program seems its pretty new

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2744 on: January 31, 2017, 09:32:41 AM »
In long Island? What type of ticket?

Just also did the plea bargain route but came out to paying $700, don't see what the bargain is

Did anyone ever enroll in nassau county cell phone program seems its pretty new
In Colts Neck, NJ went down from 4 pts to 2pts.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2745 on: January 31, 2017, 09:53:15 AM »
Does this really happen?
I was just in court and of the 10 or so cases I saw, they were either found guilty, not guilty or it was held for more information. There was no bargaining down, even for someone who the judge seemed to have sympathy for (but was found guilty).
How do you get ahold of the prosecutor? Should I just get a lawyer or I can do this?
Since it's a very silly ticket <10 MPH over the prosecuter might offer you a good plea possibly to an obstructed license plate or a parking ticket.
If you see the prosecuter isn't giving you anything good you can tell him you want to postpone in order to get a lawyer. Whatever you do try not to plea down to unsafe driver, it's very expensive and you should be able to do better.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2746 on: February 01, 2017, 11:21:38 PM »
Just got pulled over by a nasty NJ State trooper. (The roads were covered with them yesterday)

My license and plates are NY. He was a very nast smirky cop. I did not answer disrfespecfuly, but he was asking questions, saying he couldn't hear, and asking me to repeat over and over. ("Where were you going, are those your kids in the car, how fast were you going etc.)

He claimed I was going 89 in a 65 zone. I don't think I was, but I can't prove it. He wrote me two tickets! One for speeding 85, and the other for "39:4-97 Careless Driving: Likely to endanger person or property". He said that speed I was going warranted both tickets.

So I was written two tickets for the same violation.

This comes with a mandatory court appearance.

The guy was smirking the whole time, and my wife and I both though he was anti-semetic.

This was in NJ on the 80 EB . Parsippany, NJ. (And at the end of the month, of course)

I assume I need a lawyer for this one. Any good advice or suggestions here? Thanks!


Anybody know any good lawyers for this? Today I got a stack of letters from unknown lawyers asking to represent me for these violations. I'm still looking for a good referral.

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« Reply #2747 on: February 01, 2017, 11:53:50 PM »

Anybody know any good lawyers for this? Today I got a stack of letters from unknown lawyers asking to represent me for these violations. I'm still looking for a good referral.
definitely should not be points...

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2748 on: February 01, 2017, 11:59:48 PM »
No points? For 29 over and careless driving? Mandatory court appearance. How is that no points?

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« Reply #2749 on: February 02, 2017, 01:10:33 AM »
No points? For 29 over and careless driving? Mandatory court appearance. How is that no points?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2750 on: February 02, 2017, 01:25:35 AM »
No points? For 29 over and careless driving? Mandatory court appearance. How is that no points?
you said you have a NY license. Points do not transfer.

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system


Out-of-state convictions

If you are convicted of a traffic violation in another state or country, points are not added to your New York State driving record, unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec.

New York State has a reciprocal agreement with Quebec and Ontario. Traffic violation convictions that occur in these provinces are recorded on your New York State driver record, and the convictions have the same effect and carry the same points as convictions that occur in New York State. This can affect your driver violation point total and Driver Responsibility Assessment
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2751 on: February 02, 2017, 01:26:57 AM »
you said you have a NY license. Points do not transfer.

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system


Out-of-state convictions

If you are convicted of a traffic violation in another state or country, points are not added to your New York State driving record, unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2752 on: February 02, 2017, 01:35:36 AM »
you said you have a NY license. Points do not transfer.

https://dmv.ny.gov/tickets/about-nys-driver-point-system


Out-of-state convictions

If you are convicted of a traffic violation in another state or country, points are not added to your New York State driving record, unless the violation occurred in Ontario or Quebec.

New York State has a reciprocal agreement with Quebec and Ontario. Traffic violation convictions that occur in these provinces are recorded on your New York State driver record, and the convictions have the same effect and carry the same points as convictions that occur in New York State. This can affect your driver violation point total and Driver Responsibility Assessment
But you will have to pay a safe driver annual fee for three year,s to NJ, or be suspended to drive in NJ, You would also be four points away from being suspended in NJ.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2753 on: February 02, 2017, 02:16:59 AM »
But you will have to pay a safe driver annual fee for three year,s to NJ, or be suspended to drive in NJ, You would also be four points away from being suspended in NJ.
How much is that?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2754 on: February 02, 2017, 08:45:18 AM »
But you will have to pay a safe driver annual fee for three year,s to NJ, or be suspended to drive in NJ, You would also be four points away from being suspended in NJ.

That's why I'm looking for a lawyer. Any suggestions?!?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2755 on: February 02, 2017, 09:08:21 AM »
But you will have to pay a safe driver annual fee for three year,s to NJ, or be suspended to drive in NJ, You would also be four points away from being suspended in NJ.
are you sure?

I think@hirshtheg upthread mentioned that the points don't count like that, meaning a court at its own discretion can choose to suspend you license, but it's unlikely.

As for the annual fee, source for that?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2756 on: February 02, 2017, 09:25:01 AM »
But you will have to pay a safe driver annual fee for three year,s to NJ, or be suspended to drive in NJ, You would also be four points away from being suspended in NJ.
Are you sure an out of state driver can be required to pay the fee?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2757 on: February 03, 2017, 03:09:05 PM »
Got a NH speeding ticket, cited for 45 in a 30 zone. (He noted that I was faster....) Should I just pay?
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« Reply #2758 on: February 04, 2017, 07:55:10 PM »
Got a NH speeding ticket, cited for 45 in a 30 zone. (He noted that I was faster....) Should I just pay?
NY license?
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