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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New York Attorney Benjamin Goldman https://www.benjamingoldmanlawoffice.com/ 212-203-3810
New Jersey and New York Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein www.avvo.com/attorneys/08701-nj-leib-klein-1602182.html 732-987-7040

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

10+ Counties in upstate NY have diversion programs, allowing you to dismiss the ticket for a fine and defensive driving class. Conditions and restrictions apply. Check the District Attorney's website for your county: Allegany, Broome, Cayuga, Chenango, Clinton, Franklin, Livingston, Orleans, Otsego, Tioga, and Wyoming.

This wiki is not legal advice, nor the advice of an attorney.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2960 on: July 05, 2017, 10:02:55 AM »
 Does anyone know how I can get a copy of my car registration from two years ago?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2961 on: July 05, 2017, 10:25:33 AM »
Anyone have any experiences in Ramapo for Cell Phone ticket? What is the usual plea bargin?
Zev Goldstein got ticket dismissed with no show of NYS Trooper.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2962 on: July 06, 2017, 10:03:31 AM »
AFAF:
Got a red light ticket, the cop wrote 2 times on the ticket the wrong year (2018). Any chance of getting it off for that?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2963 on: July 06, 2017, 11:08:51 AM »
Commercial/Residential: Residential
The ticket was issued in this state: NY
The ticket was filed in this municipality: Elizabethtown
Ticket one: Speeding 87 in 65 zone. I-87
I want information on "do it yourself":
I want information on "hire an attorney":
I want both: This.


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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2964 on: July 07, 2017, 07:52:44 AM »
Will my license for sure get suspended if I answered the ticket 2 days after the 15 day allowance when you need to answer the ticket ? And will it work If I give them that answer that It wasn't posted online by the cop yet/that I could not access it for some reason... ? I am not actually sure that it was posted within 15 days or not .... anyone have experience with this?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2965 on: July 13, 2017, 12:10:38 PM »
AFAF:
Got a red light ticket, the cop wrote 2 times on the ticket the wrong year (2018). Any chance of getting it off for that?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2966 on: July 20, 2017, 02:11:29 PM »
i got a seatbelt ticket in brooklyn. the cop wrote the wrong registration expiration date, also the wrong precinct, is that grounds for dismissal?
also, are there any points (ny license)?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2967 on: July 21, 2017, 08:05:51 AM »
i got a seatbelt ticket in brooklyn. the cop wrote the wrong registration expiration date, also the wrong precinct, is that grounds for dismissal?
also, are there any points (ny license)?
If a driver is convicted of a violation where a passenger under age 16 is not wearing a seat belt or in a child safety seat, 3 points are assigned to the driver's record. If convicted of a seat belt violation involving the driver or a passenger age 16 or older, no points are assigned to the driver's record.

Is a seatbelt ticket points in New York State?
Although seatbelts can be life saving, some motorists choose not to wear them, which is now illegal in every state. In New York, a no seatbelt ticket does not carry any points, so if you plead guilty and pay the fine associated with the ticket, no points will be added to your driving record.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2968 on: July 21, 2017, 08:53:47 AM »
If a driver is convicted of a violation where a passenger under age 16 is not wearing a seat belt or in a child safety seat, 3 points are assigned to the driver's record. If convicted of a seat belt violation involving the driver or a passenger age 16 or older, no points are assigned to the driver's record.

Is a seatbelt ticket points in New York State?
Although seatbelts can be life saving, some motorists choose not to wear them, which is now illegal in every state. In New York, a no seatbelt ticket does not carry any points, so if you plead guilty and pay the fine associated with the ticket, no points will be added to your driving record.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2969 on: July 21, 2017, 02:15:50 PM »
I have a license from: ny
Commercial/Residential:residential
The ticket was issued in this state: yes
The ticket was filed in this municipality:
Accident?: no
Ticket one:holding mobile phone
Ticket two(ex):going through flashing railroad lights
I want information on "do it yourself": yes
I want information on "hire an attorney": yes

1. Is there different fine amounts in upstate ny compared to NYC?
2. Is there a difference in fine amounts if holding a mobile phone rather then texting?

Any information including references to attorneys in upstate ny that specialize in this feild would be deeply appreciated.
 
This is my first moving traffic violation, so any help and advice would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2970 on: July 24, 2017, 11:33:36 AM »
There's no court date written on the ticket (nor is the information, which you provided, about the fine or pts)
The ticket has a "plea due date." If the ticket is hand written in pencil, its hard to read.

Does anyone know how I can get a copy of my car registration from two years ago?
https://dmv.ny.gov/file-freedom-information-law-foil-request

AFAF:
Got a red light ticket, the cop wrote 2 times on the ticket the wrong year (2018). Any chance of getting it off for that?
Depends on the court. Could be fatal defect.

i got a seatbelt ticket in brooklyn. the cop wrote the wrong registration expiration date, also the wrong precinct, is that grounds for dismissal?
also, are there any points (ny license)?
Child seat belt is 3 points. Adult seat belt is 0 points but goes on your record.
Not probable that the judge will dismiss for those reasons.

I have a license from: ny
Commercial/Residential:residential
The ticket was issued in this state: yes
The ticket was filed in this municipality:
Accident?: no
Ticket one:holding mobile phone
Ticket two(ex):going through flashing railroad lights
I want information on "do it yourself": yes
I want information on "hire an attorney": yes

1. Is there different fine amounts in upstate ny compared to NYC?
2. Is there a difference in fine amounts if holding a mobile phone rather then texting?

Any information including references to attorneys in upstate ny that specialize in this feild would be deeply appreciated.
 
This is my first moving traffic violation, so any help and advice would be appreciated.
Thank you in advance.

Dear teetle:
You didn't tell us where the ticket is filed. Yes, there is a big difference between the way tickets are handled upstate and in the city. Based on your statement that one of the tickets is a red light for railroad crossing, I am going to assume that you got the ticket upstate, not in the city.

The cell phone is 5 points, the red light is 3. That's 8 points out of 11.

If you plead not guilty yourself and go into court yourself you will get a plea deal. Without knowing which court you are in, I can't even guess what the reduction might be.

You can check the wiki for recommended upstate attorneys.
(FYI, NYS does not allow attorneys to use the word "specialize" or "expert".)

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2971 on: July 24, 2017, 12:20:12 PM »
I was pulled over for speeding in upstate NY on highway 20A with a NY license, officer was nice enough to give me a ticket for expired inspection instead of 69 in a 55. Since I live in NJ I have since made a NJ license. I decided to try my luck and sent in a not guilty plea saying that since I lived in NJ and rarely find myself in NY I didn't get a chance to inspect my car, and that shortly after I got the ticket I took care of my inspection (and sent in the receipt). I also gave them my new address as proof that I live in NJ.

I just got the response from the court, they want me to come down (a 4+ hour trip each way) for a pre trial hearing to discuss my case with the judge and prosecutor, and if I fail to show up they might suspend my license.

My question is, if I already have my NJ license (and other than this situation I have a spotless driving record), will it make a difference if they suspend my NY license? Will the NJ authorities be notified of it?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2972 on: July 24, 2017, 06:37:56 PM »

Dear teetle:
You didn't tell us where the ticket is filed. Yes, there is a big difference between the way tickets are handled upstate and in the city. Based on your statement that one of the tickets is a red light for railroad crossing, I am going to assume that you got the ticket upstate, not in the city.

The cell phone is 5 points, the red light is 3. That's 8 points out of 11.

If you plead not guilty yourself and go into court yourself you will get a plea deal. Without knowing which court you are in, I can't even guess what the reduction might be.

You can check the wiki for recommended upstate attorneys.
(FYI, NYS does not allow attorneys to use the word "specialize" or "expert".)
Tnx for the info, it was filed by ulster town court in upstate (kingston) ny

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2973 on: July 24, 2017, 06:39:17 PM »
If anyone here used Jay drilings as a attorney in upstate plz pm

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« Reply #2974 on: July 24, 2017, 08:24:48 PM »
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2975 on: July 25, 2017, 01:37:46 PM »
If anyone here used Jay drilings as a attorney in upstate plz pm
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2976 on: July 26, 2017, 04:11:14 PM »
Was anybody in Orangeburg Court recently?
Going this week for Court date.
Any suggestions?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2977 on: July 26, 2017, 04:24:51 PM »
I was pulled over for speeding in upstate NY on highway 20A with a NY license, officer was nice enough to give me a ticket for expired inspection instead of 69 in a 55. Since I live in NJ I have since made a NJ license. I decided to try my luck and sent in a not guilty plea saying that since I lived in NJ and rarely find myself in NY I didn't get a chance to inspect my car, and that shortly after I got the ticket I took care of my inspection (and sent in the receipt). I also gave them my new address as proof that I live in NJ.

I just got the response from the court, they want me to come down (a 4+ hour trip each way) for a pre trial hearing to discuss my case with the judge and prosecutor, and if I fail to show up they might suspend my license.

My question is, if I already have my NJ license (and other than this situation I have a spotless driving record), will it make a difference if they suspend my NY license? Will the NJ authorities be notified of it?
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2978 on: July 26, 2017, 07:07:05 PM »
I was pulled over for speeding in upstate NY on highway 20A with a NY license, officer was nice enough to give me a ticket for expired inspection instead of 69 in a 55. Since I live in NJ I have since made a NJ license. I decided to try my luck and sent in a not guilty plea saying that since I lived in NJ and rarely find myself in NY I didn't get a chance to inspect my car, and that shortly after I got the ticket I took care of my inspection (and sent in the receipt). I also gave them my new address as proof that I live in NJ.

I just got the response from the court, they want me to come down (a 4+ hour trip each way) for a pre trial hearing to discuss my case with the judge and prosecutor, and if I fail to show up they might suspend my license.

My question is, if I already have my NJ license (and other than this situation I have a spotless driving record), will it make a difference if they suspend my NY license? Will the NJ authorities be notified of it?

A registration ticket has no points but goes on your record. Depending on which court you are filed in, you may be able to resolve by mail.

Tnx for the info, it was filed by ulster town court in upstate (kingston) ny

Ulster is a good Court. Still, 8 points is a lot. Hopefully you can get it down to 3 or less.

Was anybody in Orangeburg Court recently?
Going this week for Court date.
Any suggestions?
Orangetown is a very good court. What exactly is your ticket for and what state license?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #2979 on: July 26, 2017, 07:13:38 PM »
A registration ticket has no points but goes on your record. Depending on which court you are filed in, you may be able to resolve by mail.
The ticket is on an expired inspection, and I already mailed a no guilty plea. They want me to come down, I'm wondering what could happen if I ignore it (being that I don't use that driver's license anymore, I have an NJ license)

It's filed in Sheldon Town Court, Strykersville NY
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