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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

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Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein https://plus.google.com/112336751995036615679/about
              (The phone number for Leib Klein that's found online is wrong. The correct number is 732-987-7040)

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3105 on: December 24, 2017, 10:58:20 PM »



Ask the officer whether the sign was blocked. If he admits it, ask the judge to dismiss because the sign can't control you, if its blocked. If the officer doesn't admit it, you need to testify to it, and get the judge to believe you.
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It was blocked as there was a bus blocking it, not permanently blocked though...

Why would officer admit? He wouldn't and prob would not remember details either...

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3106 on: December 24, 2017, 11:05:36 PM »
My wife got 2 tickets in NJ . Careless driving and unsafe lane change. Each carry 2 points.
She currently has no points (last 2 point ticket was in June 2015 and she took the defensive driving course). Any use for an attorney? And what can she plea to besides for the unsafe driving ticket which you can only have 3 of (and expensive)
I donít think I mind taking 2 points if need be but want to plea at least one ticket.
Where in NJ?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3108 on: December 24, 2017, 11:09:33 PM »
Hamilton NJ
Umm.. Not sure about that area, I had very good experience though on Palisades with out any lawyer.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3109 on: December 26, 2017, 06:39:23 PM »
I need some clarification please for NY. I was recently convicted of a 15 MPH over the speed limit ticket (using Lawyer Shua Gelbstein) with points being reduced from 4 to 3 and would like to know how taking the defensive driving class will effect insurance surcharge. This is the first point violation I ever received and my current DD class 3 year period expires in March. I called Hartford and asked them if they forgive first violation and they said "accident, not violation".  Will the new class remove said 3 pt. violation for insurance purposes or just remove the pts that can be accumulated by DMV? Never took the class before for point removal, just for insurance discount.
Sorry, in advance, for the long winded post. Getting nuts over this. Am not thrilled that I had to pay Gelbstein $350 plus pay for ticket now and pay for insurance surcharge for next several years.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3110 on: December 26, 2017, 06:59:22 PM »
I need some clarification please. I was recently convicted of a 15 MPH over the speed limit ticket (using Lawyer Shua Gelbstein) with points being reduced from 4 to 3 and would like to know how taking the defensive driving class will effect insurance surcharge. This is the first point violation I ever received and my current DD class 3 year period expires in March. I called Hartford and asked them if they forgive first violation and they said "accident, not violation".  Will the new class remove said 3 pt. violation for insurance purposes or just remove the pts that can be accumulated by DMV? Never took the class before for point removal, just for insurance discount.
Sorry, in advance, for the long winded post. Getting nuts over this. Am not thrilled that I had to pay Gelbstein $350 plus pay for ticket now and pay for insurance surcharge for next several years.
I really feel bad for New Yorkers and traffic violation laws in the state, here in Indy for 15 MPH over speed limit and no prior violations , worse scenario you get a written warning.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3111 on: December 26, 2017, 11:35:32 PM »
I really feel bad for New Yorkers and traffic violation laws in the state, here in Indy for 15 MPH over speed limit and no prior violations , worse scenario you get a written warning.
What are the implications of that?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3112 on: December 27, 2017, 12:43:08 AM »
What are the implications of that?
Just saying NY seems too tough on minor traffic violations .
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3113 on: December 29, 2017, 03:29:18 PM »
Got a ticket 3 yrs ago for making a left turn unto flatbush ave (near target).
I did not see any sign, am not from neighborhood and city bus was blocking intersection so apparantly didn't see sign.  Hearing is this week, can i just tell judge this?
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Went down they said Officer coudnt make it so need to reschedule...i always thought gets dismissed if can't make it?

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3114 on: December 31, 2017, 04:22:12 PM »
It was blocked as there was a bus blocking it, not permanently blocked though...

Why would officer admit? He wouldn't and prob would not remember details either...
If he admits that he doesn't remember, that's good enough. You can't be expected to obey a sign that is blocked, even temperately.

I need some clarification please for NY. I was recently convicted of a 15 MPH over the speed limit ticket (using Lawyer Shua Gelbstein) with points being reduced from 4 to 3 and would like to know how taking the defensive driving class will effect insurance surcharge. This is the first point violation I ever received and my current DD class 3 year period expires in March. I called Hartford and asked them if they forgive first violation and they said "accident, not violation".  Will the new class remove said 3 pt. violation for insurance purposes or just remove the pts that can be accumulated by DMV? Never took the class before for point removal, just for insurance discount.
Sorry, in advance, for the long winded post. Getting nuts over this. Am not thrilled that I had to pay Gelbstein $350 plus pay for ticket now and pay for insurance surcharge for next several years.

As for the result, depends on the court the ticket was filed in. It may very well have have been the best deal you could have gotten.

As for the class, see the wiki. The class does not "remove" points. It extends your limit from 11 to 14.

Went down they said Officer coudnt make it so need to reschedule...i always thought gets dismissed if can't make it?
Its discretionary.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3115 on: December 31, 2017, 05:47:54 PM »
Update: got two tickets in June in ulster country upstate 1 for holding phone 2 for crossing railway just as the red lights Went on, 1250$ fine and 8 points, I got j drilings from the index of this thread he got it down to 2 points and 250$ fine, he did a great job.

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3116 on: January 02, 2018, 02:14:09 PM »
Got a cell phone ticket and improper plate ticket in New York in 2015. Ticket was administratively adjourned once and I requested an adjournment once. Date is for next week when I will be out of town. Was that DMV this morning and judge refused to adjourn even with Bond.

What are my options?

If I miss the date won't they just threaten to suspend me if I dont appear ot pay within 30 days? Or will the default not be vacated? He said he will allow me to get an attorney to adjourn but I didnt want to pay one as Im certain I can win at trial alone.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3117 on: January 05, 2018, 09:10:37 AM »
Hi. I rear ended someone in Lakewood NJ and I got a ticket for careless driving. If I want to do a plea bargain, is there a benefit in getting a lawyer or can I do it myself? I'm not sure if this makes a difference, but she is claiming that she was seriously injured due to my negligence. I have a NJ license.
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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3118 on: January 10, 2018, 02:17:08 PM »
got a ticket in queens, do i have the option to request supporting deposition as it wasn't issued with the ticket? on the ticket it doesn't mention that option


The ticket was issued in this state: NY
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Ticket one: moved from lane unsafely 1128A

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Re: Moving Violation Tickets
« Reply #3119 on: January 10, 2018, 02:23:18 PM »
as my ticket is returnable to TVB i see i can't ask for deposition. can s/o advise the best way to deal with this?