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This thread discusses speeding tickets and traffic tickets in the state of New York. For parking tickets go here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=15090.0 or here http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=23665.msg1088489. For moving violations outside of New York, please start a new thread and add a link here.

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Please read this wiki first. I am not an attorney and this is not legal advice.

Q: Can I get a plea bargain in New York City?
A: No. Every single ticket goes to trial, guilty or not guilty, in New York City. (The 5 boroughs of NY, Kings, Queens, Bronx and Richmond.)

***Join the push to change the system in NYC. https://www.change.org/p/new-york-change-traffic-courts-in-new-york-city-nyc-tvb ***

Q: How long does it take for points to fall off your New York State record/license/abstract?
A: For DMV persistent violation purposes 18 months from the date of offense regardless of the date of conviction. At 3 years after the date of conviction on the following January first the points are no longer visible on the driving record which insurance companies and traffic prosecutors look at. DMV always keeps a record of your conviction and if you get too many points over your lifetime you could get a "10 year" revocation, however those records are not visible to insurance companies.

Q: Does it pay to fight my NY ticket or should I just pay it?
A: In order to figure the true cost of a traffic ticket conviction (aside from figuring out the total fines and the effects on your record) you need to call up your insurance company and ask them 2 questions. 1. How much will my insurance go up over the next 4 years if I pay this ticket? 2. How much money in "good driver discounts" will I loss over the next 4 years and how much does this add up to?

The reason you need to ask these 2 questions separately is because the insurance companies "shield themselves" from the statutory requirement to not raise insurance rates for a first violation (or speeds up to 15 MPH) by granting "good driver discounts", and then taking away these good driver discounts when you get your first violation. Therefore the (technically) correct answer to the first question you ask them could be "your insurance will not be raised at all". Then when you ask them the second question the answer may be in the thousands of dollars over the next 4 years, depending on your insurance bracket.

Q: How can I find my New York ticket online? 
A: If it is New York City ticket you can find it at https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay if you received a ticket anywhere outside of NYC and anywhere upstate you must contact the individual Court by phone or mail. There is no way to find your ticket online. Google is not able to find most small Courts as it get confused with giving you the most popular courts and attorneys, therefore I suggest you look up your Court at at www.town-court.com.

Q: How can I get a copy of my NYS driving record/license/abstract?
A: You can buy it at the statutory minimum of $7 at https://my.dmv.ny.gov/crm

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a regular non CDL NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no they will not.

Q: Do NY tickets show up on NJ licenses?
A: Yes as a 2 point out of state conviction (most violations).

Q: Do NJ tickets show up on a NY license?
A: As long as you pay them, no. Exceptions 1. if you have a CDL the NJ conviction will record on your NY license. 2. DUI/DWI and criminal driving convictions from NJ do record on your NY license. 3. as stated above if you don't respond to the ticket the suspension will follow you to NY. In addition NJ issues warrants for failing to respond to traffic tickets. 4 If you are convicted of a high speed (90+ MPH, 100+ MPH) in NJ the Judge may suspend your NJ driving privileges. 

Q: Can I pay Court fines with a CC?
A: In NYC for moving violations you can use https://transact.dmv.ny.gov/pleadnpay. For NYC parking tickets you can use http://www.nyc.gov/html/dof/html/parking/parking.shtml. As far as "upstate" Courts go, most Courts will allow you to pay with visa or mastercard in person. Many Courts have a CC sheet which you can fill in and mail back, other Courts have a third party processor such as https://www.ncourt.com to accept cc payments. Call the Court to find out what options they have. No one (so far that I have seen) will take CCs over the phone.

Q: I received a camera ticket for a red light (3 points) or speeding (3-11 points) or a bus lane violation (2 points). Do traffic tickets issued from a camera add points to my license?
A: Camera Tickets never go on your license as they are issued against the car and not the driver. Therefor a camera ticket will not add points to your license or increase your insurance.

Q: If I push a ticket off for 18 months and then I am convicted, can I still be suspended by the DMV for having more than 11 points?
A: Pushing off a ticket will not help protect you from DMV actions. The reason is as follows: if you receive 2 tickets worth 6 points each on the same day, and you plead guilty to one of them on that same day and you push the second ticket off for 5 years, and then you plead guilty to that second ticket, the DMV computer will look at the 2 dates of violation and say "the motorist accumulated (more than) 11 points within an 18 month period" and issue a persistent violator suspension against you license.

Insurance companies work the other way around. They can only raise your premium after your date of conviction. Therefore in our example the insurance companies will increase your insurance after the first conviction appears on your record when they renew your policy (which will stay on your record for 3 years and then until the next January 1st) and then they will increase your rates again after the second ticket conviction shows up on your record when they renew your policy, (once again this second ticket will stay on the record for  3 years plus until the next January first. It follows that pleading/being found guilty in December saves 11 months of policy increase, and if there is a way to lock in a one year policy right before a conviction in December you can be looking at a car increase for only 2 years and 1 day, instead of 4 years minus one day.)

Travelers Insurance offers 1 year rates.
Geico is 6 months.

Traffic Ticket Lawyers:

State
New York Attorney Matisyahu Wolfberg http://www.speedingdefense.com/
New York Attorney Zev Goldstein www.zevgoldsteinlaw.com 845-356-7770
New Jersey Attorney Adam H. Rosenblum www.ticketdefenselaw.com
New Jersey Attorney Leib Klein https://plus.google.com/112336751995036615679/about
              (The phone number for Leib Klein that's found online is wrong. The correct number is 732-987-7040)

Great Upstate NY lawyer at very cheap prices. http://jaydrillings.net/

Not that many parking ticket lawyers!
Parking ticket Non Lawyer (NYC)
Cathy Mei She takes 50% to fight the parking or camera ticket
Office Number 212-349-4978
Email 329ticket@gmail.com
Fax 646-699-3630

Parking Expert non attorney (718) 384-5052

Non attorney runner http://www.myticketsnyc.com/

Non attorney runner http://www.wefighttickets.com/

This wiki is not legal advice, or the advice of an attorney.
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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #60 on: April 15, 2012, 07:28:51 AM »
Just a tip; A friend of mine was recently told by a lawyer that if you get the points off but the tickets stays what it is -(moving violation), the insurance companies look at it like it was a 4 point ticket.

The reason for that is bec they know you got points -(bec your violation was for moving), and they know that you plea bargained,  so they add a set amount of 4 points. 

(Not from lawyer). The way to avoid the above problem is to have the ticket turned into a parking ticket, which possibly requires an attorney.

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #61 on: April 15, 2012, 11:10:20 AM »
Just a tip; A friend of mine was recently told by a lawyer that if you get the points off but the tickets stays what it is -(moving violation), the insurance companies look at it like it was a 4 point ticket.

The reason for that is bec they know you got points -(bec your violation was for moving), and they know that you plea bargained,  so they add a set amount of 4 points. 

(Not from lawyer). The way to avoid the above problem is to have the ticket turned into a parking ticket, which possibly requires an attorney.

This is true. Insurance companies do not all have point systems, they go by the infraction. A speeding ticket can be plead to no points but picked up by insurance companies, the best thing to do, as stated is to plead it to a non-moving violation.

By the token, if you a moving violation in any state, even if the DMV that issued your license never finds out about it the insurance companies can.

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #62 on: April 15, 2012, 11:10:59 AM »
First of all, if you do not have an NJ license,   you should find out if the points transfer. 

Second of all, as per this list,  its two points. Though the statute numbers don't match the ones you posted so I'm not sure what that means.

http://www.state.nj.us/mvc/Violations/penalties_pointSchedule.htm
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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #63 on: April 15, 2012, 12:15:40 PM »
Oops thanks, I knew I forgot something! I have a NYS license.
The points for a NJ ticket will not transfer to your NY license (Lawyer and my experience) so just pay the fine and your good to go.
(I'm not sure however about insurance, CMIIW but I don't think in NJ they will let you plea bargain to a non moving violation)

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #64 on: April 15, 2012, 12:18:02 PM »
Just a tip; A friend of mine was recently told by a lawyer that if you get the points off but the tickets stays what it is -(moving violation), the insurance companies look at it like it was a 4 point ticket.

The reason for that is bec they know you got points -(bec your violation was for moving), and they know that you plea bargained,  so they add a set amount of 4 points. 

(Not from lawyer). The way to avoid the above problem is to have the ticket turned into a parking ticket, which possibly requires an attorney.
Do insurance companies differentiate between moving violations or do they treat them all the same?
 Case in point: I got a ticket for tailgating in NJ which is 5 points! Will it help for insurance purposes to get it knocked down to a different moving violation which only has 2 or 0 points? If it makes a difference I have Travelers.

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #65 on: April 15, 2012, 04:36:14 PM »
CMIIW but I don't think in NJ they will let you plea bargain to a non moving violation)

Varies by township

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #66 on: April 16, 2012, 06:43:27 PM »
There are some out there that can help with moving violations in NY however it is quite price, feel free to email me if you need more info

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Re: Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #67 on: April 16, 2012, 09:02:01 PM »
There are some out there that can help with moving violations in NY however it is quite price, feel free to email me if you need more info
Depending on where you get the ticket it needn't be that expensive
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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #68 on: April 17, 2012, 12:33:57 AM »
Varies by township
Mine was in NJ, Municipality: Westampton Township, County: Burlington. I know that the points wont transfer, but I am getting conflicting reports about if insurance company will find out about the speeding ticket anyway. Anyone know one way or another?
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Re: Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #69 on: April 17, 2012, 12:00:56 PM »
Depending on where you get the ticket it needn't be that expensive

Im talking about making the ticket go away

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #70 on: April 17, 2012, 12:43:24 PM »
Mine was in NJ, Municipality: Westampton Township, County: Burlington. I know that the points wont transfer, but I am getting conflicting reports about if insurance company will find out about the speeding ticket anyway. Anyone know one way or another?
Thanks!

The best would be to call our agent, if you had a personal relationship with one. There is no real way to determine it, there are a few factors.
Some townships would see in the cops notes that you were going faster then what was noted on the ticket and not give you any additional leeway. Its not such a bad ticket, I would go in there try and talk to a prosecutor and try and come up with a nice true sob story.

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #71 on: April 17, 2012, 02:07:03 PM »
Mine was in NJ, Municipality: Westampton Township, County: Burlington. I know that the points wont transfer, but I am getting conflicting reports about if insurance company will find out about the speeding ticket anyway. Anyone know one way or another?
Thanks!

I recently called USAA (who is not my auto insurance co.) top get a car insurance quote.  Gave them my license # and other info, and in the process of compiling a quote, they had a record of every summons (moving violation) that I had gotten in the last 10 years or so, as well as any accidents.  They had the violation of record -- i.e., what I had plead guilty to...

So it would seem to me that even though points may not transfer from one state to the other (depending on which states), the insurance company sees all.

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #72 on: April 18, 2012, 11:36:37 PM »
My wife just got a seatbelt ticket in nj while driving and the court paper said ticket Was for no seatbelt in a rear seat. So I called in and pleaded not guilty.
Now can we just go to court and say she was not in the rear at the time??
What else can we say?

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #73 on: April 19, 2012, 01:29:05 AM »
My wife just got a seatbelt ticket in nj while driving and the court paper said ticket Was for no seatbelt in a rear seat. So I called in and pleaded not guilty.
Now can we just go to court and say she was not in the rear at the time??
What else can we say?
Was she wearing a seatbelt?

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Re: Trafic Tickets
« Reply #74 on: April 19, 2012, 03:21:48 AM »
My wife just got a seatbelt ticket in nj while driving and the court paper said ticket Was for no seatbelt in a rear seat. So I called in and pleaded not guilty.
Now can we just go to court and say she was not in the rear at the time??
What else can we say?
In NJ the court is allowed to change some mistakes on a ticket. IDK how far that goes but it is s/t you should find out.