Author Topic: Matisyahu Shaves Beard... (Read 117760 times)

Dan · « **Reply #80 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:28:05 PM »

Quote from: WAM on December 15, 2011, 05:29:14 AM

As far as I know, that still wouldn't make LH muttar. Even if he said that, he's still not a mumar.

If someone walks down the street (and twitter, and the radio, and tv, etc, etc) screaming that he's not keeping "xyz minhag/chumrah" anymore is it really LH to discuss it if he's the one walking down the street shouting it out over multiple days for all to hear?

dwkl · « **Reply #81 on:** December 15, 2011, 12:48:01 PM »

matisyahu interviewd on live radio as to why he grew beard and shaved

http://www.mahnishmah.com/system/scripts/modules/admin/pages/show_page.cgi?&p=53779

jj1000 · « **Reply #82 on:** December 15, 2011, 01:55:21 PM »

Quote from: Dan on December 14, 2011, 10:22:44 PM

Based on that interview, I will be shocked if this man is a frum jew in 5 years from now.

Calling "ludicrous" the chasidic belief that the yud gimel midos ha'rachamim and G-ds mercy comes through the beard and what the tzemach tzedek paskened a d'oraisa is but a step away from calling "ludicrous" the need to keep kosher, observe shabbos, or tefillin in order not be cut off from G-d.

Seems to me this is kinda like that rabbi agreeing with an athiast that the same god he doesnt believe in the rabbi also doesnt believe in. Meaning I do not think matis learned the same chassidus that I have been learning my whole life. Imo chabad is partialy to blame because we made him into a spkesman for chabad before he had any time in yeshiva to get a solid foundation.

jj1000 · « **Reply #83 on:** December 15, 2011, 01:56:15 PM »

Quote from: MarkS on December 14, 2011, 10:24:05 PM

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I babysat for his 3 kids before they are sooo cute!!!

bosoxfan · « **Reply #84 on:** December 15, 2011, 03:16:33 PM »

Just look at who he's hangnig out with. Won't be shomer shabbos by the end of 2012.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150350888098758&set=a.171421453757.122236.161151918757&type=3&theater

YudiG · « **Reply #85 on:** December 15, 2011, 03:21:23 PM »

Hasn't enough been said already...Mods - maybe we should declare a moratorium on the issue?

mercaz1 · « **Reply #86 on:** December 15, 2011, 03:35:55 PM »

that was before the beard was even shaved off

Cbs · « **Reply #87 on:** December 15, 2011, 03:55:20 PM »

Quote from: dwkl on December 15, 2011, 12:48:01 PM

matisyahu interviewd on live radio as to why he grew beard and shaved

http://www.mahnishmah.com/system/scripts/modules/admin/pages/show_page.cgi?&p=53779

repost

Dan · « **Reply #88 on:** December 15, 2011, 05:13:30 PM »

Quote from: bosoxfan on December 15, 2011, 03:16:33 PM

Just look at who he's hangnig out with. Won't be shomer shabbos by the end of 2012.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150350888098758&set=a.171421453757.122236.161151918757&type=3&theater

Wonder what if wife thinks...

ez1985 · « **Reply #89 on:** December 15, 2011, 05:50:33 PM »

Quote from: bosoxfan on December 15, 2011, 03:16:33 PM

Just look at who he's hangnig out with. Won't be shomer shabbos by the end of 2012.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150350888098758&set=a.171421453757.122236.161151918757&type=3&theater

James Wasil "The guy can do a mean rap and musical style, but that beard has just got to go! lol"

Hilarious that this was the first post on that photo

Hudi · « **Reply #90 on:** December 15, 2011, 06:44:18 PM »

Quote from @Matisyahu on twitter: "I want nothing at all! I don't want Your gan eden, I don't want Your olam haba... I want nothing but You alone." - Alter Rebbe GOOD YOM TOV

This is a quote from Hayom Yom and and a famous statement in Chabad. I am soooo confused...

Dan · « **Reply #91 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:00:01 PM »

Wow...
http://twitter.com/#!/chailife67

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #92 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:11:42 PM »

Quote from: Dan on December 15, 2011, 07:00:01 PM

Wow...
http://twitter.com/#!/chailife67

O-M-G
I understand you're referring to his massage?

JEWDA · « **Reply #93 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:32:44 PM »

WOW how far will this get?

Armadillo · « **Reply #94 on:** December 15, 2011, 07:59:08 PM »

The man is clearly trying to find his middle, he def went way out there from the secular life he was leading 10 years ago and has been snapping back for the past couple years. Here's hoping he finds his shvil hazahav b4 he finds his dreads.

Armadillo · « **Reply #95 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:07:33 PM »

If not for Chabad's intense identification with beards I don't think it would be as big a deal, the rest of us frum Jews don't see it as the same deoraisa (done properly of course).
In kiruv there is always the fear someone takes on too much too soon and isn't ready 4 it.
As he says he jumped in when he saw yiddishkeit was real and then was 2 afraid to take a step back. That's why he's expressing it so disagreeably (to some of us) now.
I don't think it's minhag and rabbi's that he's throwing out as much as the fear culture he was living with, kind of like a chassidish kid from willy who finds out that if he reads a secular book he's still jewish (as long as he finds out b4 he sleeps with a shikse)

e-Lawyer · « **Reply #96 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:20:26 PM »

He is trapped, this is obvious. It is kind of painful to watch him unravel so publicly. Its tough to watch him deal with this. On the other hand, there had to have been a better way for him to deal with this. Actions have consequences.

Armadillo · « **Reply #97 on:** December 15, 2011, 08:25:10 PM »

He's having a major performance week in NY next week and he had to let people know sometime

Dan · « **Reply #98 on:** December 15, 2011, 10:24:18 PM »

Quote from: Armadillo on December 15, 2011, 08:07:33 PM

If not for Chabad's intense identification with beards I don't think it would be as big a deal, the rest of us frum Jews don't see it as the same deoraisa (done properly of course).
In kiruv there is always the fear someone takes on too much too soon and isn't ready 4 it.
As he says he jumped in when he saw yiddishkeit was real and then was 2 afraid to take a step back. That's why he's expressing it so disagreeably (to some of us) now.
I don't think it's minhag and rabbi's that he's throwing out as much as the fear culture he was living with, kind of like a chassidish kid from willy who finds out that if he reads a secular book he's still jewish (as long as he finds out b4 he sleeps with a shikse)

Again, the beard is not the major aspect here, it's the too many rules, ludicrous minhagim, talk that have riled people up.
And taking pictures with a porn star cover masseuse doesn't help his "I'm still frum" case...

Armadillo · « **Reply #99 on:** December 16, 2011, 03:25:27 AM »

Quote from: Dan on December 15, 2011, 10:24:18 PM

it's the too many rules, ludicrous minhagim, talk that have riled people up.

Quote from: Armadillo on December 15, 2011, 08:07:33 PM

I don't think it's minhag and rabbi's that he's throwing out as much as the fear culture he was living with,

And maybe not you, but I saw what people were saying on the Chabad sites, and they were definitely pretty hung up on the beard. Though I have a beard now, I trim it and I don't think I or anyone who shaves fully, is being moneia midas horachamim (at least not as a rule - I don't understand too much Kabbala, but I know Hashem loves me either way).