Is It Ethical?

[as2]

Any company would require a receipt to be reimbursed, if your receipt says your total is the cost of 3 nights how do you expect to get reimbursed for the 4th night?

The rebate comes through the credit card not the hotel. You get a receipt from the hotel for the total stay.

[username]

interesting question.

I dont understand. It is  a given that if you can collect the frequent flyer miles when you fly, even if you are reimbursed by your company.
If you stay at an Hotel for four nights, why cant you 'earn' the fourth night free', just like you can earn ff points on a flight, even if your company is reimbursing you?

[Ergel]

If they would give to a fifth night free, you'd be correct. But here they are rebating part of your cost. It's not something separate they are giving you, they are refunding you

[username]

If they would give to a fifth night free, you'd be correct. But here they are rebating part of your cost. It's not something separate they are giving you, they are refunding you

I see it as the same thing. Based on what you(r employer) paid, they are giving you a freebee. Just like with airline points, based on what you(r employer) paid, you get a freebie.- especially with the new FF earnings based on flight cost.

In the old days, where the FF miles were earned by flying, and had nothing to do with the cost price, perhaps your distinction would change things. But now that the FF points are tied directly with the cost paid, IMHO, it is the same thing.

[hachover]

I see it as the same thing. Based on what you(r employer) paid, they are giving you a freebee. Just like with airline points, based on what you(r employer) paid, you get a freebie.- especially with the new FF earnings based on flight cost.

In the old days, where the FF miles were earned by flying, and had nothing to do with the cost price, perhaps your distinction would change things. But now that the FF points are tied directly with the cost paid, IMHO, it is the same thing.

FF mileage is credited to the traveler because the airlines don't want businesses to rack up tons of points in one pool for all the tickets they buy for all their employees- the airlines prefer that miles be held dispersed and less usable. I don't think you can use airline policy as a proof of what is ethical. It only represents what they find more favorable to themselves.

[mmgfarb]

FF mileage is credited to the traveler because the airlines don't want businesses to rack up tons of points in one pool for all the tickets they buy for all their employees- the airlines prefer that miles be held dispersed and less usable. I don't think you can use airline policy as a proof of what is ethical. It only represents what they find more favorable to themselves.

Some airlines do have corporate accounts.

[as2]

Regardless, in this case, there is no way for the business to collect those miles. In the case of the hotel, they can easily claim the money he saved. I still believe it is fine, as long as they have no way of getting the same rebate/discount.

[Alexsei]

To run ppc ads on competitors Names?

[Sam Finkelstein]

How's this one:

Someone I know in LA doesn't like to have license plates on his cars, and delays their installation or doesn't install them altogether. Of course, now the predatory $300-a-pop red light cameras can't catch him.

He's aware it's illegal and is ready to pay a fine for no license plates. My question is if it's unethical.

[mmgfarb]

How's this one:

Someone I know in LA doesn't like to have license plates on his cars, and delays their installation or doesn't install them altogether. Of course, now the predatory $300-a-pop red light cameras can't catch him.

He's aware it's illegal and is ready to pay a fine for no license plates. My question is if it's unethical.

Of course it is, whats the question?

[hide4]

Of course it is, whats the question?

Are the "$300 a pop" cameras ethical?

[mmgfarb]

Are the "$300 a pop" cameras ethical?

That's a separate question but since as of now they're legally allowed, doing something like this to circumvent them is unethical. Regardless, one unethical thing doesn't undo another, they're just both unethical at the same time.

[hide4]

That's a separate question but since as of now they're legally allowed, doing something like this to circumvent them is unethical. Regardless, one unethical thing doesn't undo another, they're just both unethical at the same time.

Is it really unethical to circumvent an unethical thing by doing something unethical?

[Sam Finkelstein]

Is it really unethical to circumvent an unethical thing by doing something unethical?

To paraphrase Shakespeare, that is the question.

[mmgfarb]

Is it really unethical to circumvent an unethical thing by doing something unethical?

IMO yes.

[Alexsei]

Is that person going to stop doing it If we vote against it?

Is it ethical to pass a red?

[Sam Finkelstein]

Is that person going to stop doing it If we vote against it?

Probably not. He'll probably install them once the cars start looking not new.

I was once driving his car. At a weird intersection, one of the cameras went off. I thought I made the green, but now was unsure and was freaking out. And then I remembered that the car had no plates...

An awesome feeling, if I may daresay.

[Alexsei]

Probably not. He'll probably install them once the cars start looking not new.

I was once driving his car. At a weird intersection, one of the cameras went off. I thought I made the green, but now was unsure and was freaking out. And then I remembered that the car had no plates...

An awesome feeling, if I may daresay.

If he frequents these pops maybe worth to get a new car every while

[Sam Finkelstein]

Is it ethical to pass a red?

I think there's a difference between intentionally violating a reasonable traffic law vs. avoiding prosecution in the event of an oversight.

[Alexsei]

I think there's a difference between intentionally violating a reasonable traffic law vs. avoiding prosecution in the event of an oversight.

Does he have that oversight that often that it's worth for him to do that?