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« Reply #3300 on: February 22, 2015, 10:12:19 PM »
“I know that by my family, people are successful without all the education.”

Classic.
He also makes a good point. My experience has been that those who are well to do what it takes to succeed will do it without an education and those who are unwilling well fail even with one.
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« Reply #3301 on: February 22, 2015, 10:18:05 PM »
He also makes a good point. My experience has been that those who are well to do what it takes to succeed will do it without an education and those who are unwilling well fail even with one.
His mastery of the English language is also unparalleled.
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« Reply #3302 on: February 22, 2015, 10:19:20 PM »
His mastery of the English language is also unparalleled.
You understood him just fine.

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« Reply #3303 on: February 22, 2015, 10:22:10 PM »
His mastery of the English language is also unparalleled.
I am not disagreeing about that.
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« Reply #3304 on: February 22, 2015, 10:34:47 PM »
He also makes a good point. My experience has been that those who are well to do what it takes to succeed will do it without an education and those who are unwilling well fail even with one.
I hear what you're saying, but they also sometimes, and I'm generalizing here, don't understand what is considered good business practices and what isn't. That comes from a very sheltered upbringing, including a lack of education. It's ok when you're business is all within the community, but outside the ghetto it can be a real Chilul Hashem.


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Re: Interesting Articles...
« Reply #3308 on: February 24, 2015, 04:07:14 PM »

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« Reply #3310 on: February 25, 2015, 10:53:30 AM »
If those people had Emunah they wouldn't be doing these things.

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« Reply #3312 on: February 25, 2015, 11:00:26 AM »
If those people had Emunah they wouldn't be doing these things.
For many this is proper hishtadlus, not lack of emunah.
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« Reply #3313 on: February 25, 2015, 11:05:08 AM »
For many this is proper hishtadlus, not lack of emunah.
proper hishtadlus? how could you call geneiva hishtadlus?

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« Reply #3314 on: February 25, 2015, 11:38:49 AM »
proper hishtadlus? how could you call geneiva hishtadlus?
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« Reply #3315 on: February 25, 2015, 12:46:30 PM »
+1
that post (the earlier one, not the "+1") really bothers me
not that i was naive, but these people who think they can keep 3/4 chelkei shulchan aruch, and justify it however they do, create such a chilul Hashem.

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« Reply #3316 on: February 25, 2015, 12:56:27 PM »
that post (the earlier one, not the "+1") really bothers me
not that i was naive, but these people who think they can keep 3/4 chelkei shulchan aruch, and justify it however they do, create such a chilul Hashem.
Yup, it's unfortunately extremely prevalent. Last year we were meeting with a financial adviser who told us he advised his own daughter not to legally marry and that he was considering "divorcing" his own wife (he found an interesting way to justify it. He doesn't want to support the state's new definition of marriage...)

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« Reply #3317 on: February 25, 2015, 12:58:47 PM »
Yup, it's unfortunately extremely prevalent. Last year we were meeting with a financial adviser who told us he advised his own daughter not to legally marry and that he was considering "divorcing" his own wife (he found an interesting way to justify it. He doesn't want to support the state's new definition of marriage...)
while i, by no means, condone the behavior you mention, and would never practice it myself, at least that isnt straight up illegal and absolutely assur. they are loopholes which are certainly not yashar and some may call them assur (i could be wrong and its possibly they are illegal.)
but the practices mentioned a few posts earlier make me want to puke

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« Reply #3318 on: February 25, 2015, 01:16:14 PM »
This is discussing beyond believe and completely inexcusable.
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« Reply #3319 on: February 25, 2015, 01:17:00 PM »
This is discussing beyond believe and completely inexcusable.
i tried understanding ^ but im having trouble
update: got it!
"this is disgusting beyond belief and completely inexcusable"
me: +1