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Law school exams for yeshiva guys 101, by henche
1. Read the story. 
2. Write down all the taynas that anyone might have, and what taynas the other guy might have back, and what the halacha probably is. 
3. Hit "submit"
4. Get a job.
5. Never see your family again!!!!!!!

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1875 on: April 19, 2017, 01:00:21 PM »
Yup. Need to know the other option to opine.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #1876 on: April 19, 2017, 01:11:30 PM »
Was offered 150k at Northwestern and 75k at Chicago. So Northwestern is about 120k cheaper before interest and loan origination fees. The wild card is that my wife has a job here in NY and who knows if/when she can find a job in Chicago (social work). 

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1877 on: April 19, 2017, 05:03:27 PM »
Was offered 150k at Northwestern and 75k at Chicago. So Northwestern is about 120k cheaper before interest and loan origination fees. The wild card is that my wife has a job here in NY and who knows if/when she can find a job in Chicago (social work). 
didn't you mention that you'd rather live in Chicago than NYC? If so, move now. I have a hard time imagining that if your wife is a licensed social worker she'd have difficulty such that it would justify the added loans your thinking of undertaking. Further, as an initial placement out of law school, Chicago firms will look more (though certainly not exclusively) to NU and Chicago vs. Columbia if you have no other ties (work experience or undergrad) to the area.

CLS is fantastic (I'm a proud alum and have seen first hand that it can open doors even in much smaller markets), but NU and Chicago are fantastic top-notch schools with great alumni networks as well (including in NYC) and that's a nice amount of money they're offering.

Ultimately you and your wife need to diacusss, but just some thoughts about your (awesome) options.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1878 on: April 19, 2017, 05:56:17 PM »
didn't you mention that you'd rather live in Chicago than NYC? If so, move now. I have a hard time imagining that if your wife is a licensed social worker she'd have difficulty such that it would justify the added loans your thinking of undertaking. Further, as an initial placement out of law school, Chicago firms will look more (though certainly not exclusively) to NU and Chicago vs. Columbia if you have no other ties (work experience or undergrad) to the area.

CLS is fantastic (I'm a proud alum and have seen first hand that it can open doors even in much smaller markets), but NU and Chicago are fantastic top-notch schools with great alumni networks as well (including in NYC) and that's a nice amount of money they're offering.

Ultimately you and your wife need to diacusss, but just some thoughts about your (awesome) options.
Thank you for your response. While I'm definitely open-minded to moving to Chicago, it would be much easier to stay here in NY but I'm trying to remove that from the equation for now.

As a practicing attorney would you(or anyone else who might have an opinion) take the 150k at Northwestern vs 40k at Cls? I have been given conflicting advice on if Cls is worth 110k+ over NU and would love to get anymore insight if possible.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1879 on: April 20, 2017, 02:34:47 PM »
Personally, all things considered I'd take Chicago at 75k over either other option.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #1880 on: April 20, 2017, 02:42:52 PM »
Personally, all things considered I'd take Chicago at 75k over either other option.
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« Reply #1881 on: April 20, 2017, 03:32:30 PM »
Agreed.
Care to elaborate?

Chicago is offering 35k and about 10k cheaper than Cls but once I factor in moving costs and the fact that my wife doesn't have a job I was thinking I might as well stay in NY than go to U Chicago. NU is enticing for the 150k. Please let me know if I'm overlooking something.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1882 on: April 20, 2017, 03:54:20 PM »
Care to elaborate?

Chicago is offering 35k and about 10k cheaper than Cls but once I factor in moving costs and the fact that my wife doesn't have a job I was thinking I might as well stay in NY than go to U Chicago. NU is enticing for the 150k. Please let me know if I'm overlooking something.
You asked to keep personal interests out of it.
it would be much easier to stay here in NY but I'm trying to remove that from the equation for now.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1883 on: April 20, 2017, 04:02:17 PM »
You asked to keep personal interests out of it.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #1884 on: April 20, 2017, 04:24:22 PM »
Thank you for your response. While I'm definitely open-minded to moving to Chicago, it would be much easier to stay here in NY but I'm trying to remove that from the equation for now.

As a practicing attorney would you(or anyone else who might have an opinion) take the 150k at Northwestern vs 40k at Cls? I have been given conflicting advice on if Cls is worth 110k+ over NU and would love to get anymore insight if possible.

Here is a good piece that shows much better full-time employment rates for graduates of UC over NW:
http://abovethelaw.com/2017/04/the-top-law-schools-with-the-best-employment-outcomes/
however due to NW #10 ranking and your full scholarship, perhaps some experts would recommend graduating without that additional debt.
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Re: Law School
« Reply #1885 on: April 20, 2017, 05:13:08 PM »
Here is a good piece that shows much better full-time employment rates for graduates of UC over NW:
http://abovethelaw.com/2017/04/the-top-law-schools-with-the-best-employment-outcomes/
however due to NW #10 ranking and your full scholarship, perhaps some experts would recommend graduating without that additional debt.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1886 on: April 20, 2017, 05:39:15 PM »
It's really boiling down to is it a wise investment to pay ~2600 a month on (hopefully) 21k a month pretax for a decade? Are the numbers doable?

Kind of getting cold feet with this amount of debt though I do think Cls is my best option.

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1887 on: April 20, 2017, 08:29:33 PM »
It's really boiling down to is it a wise investment to pay ~2600 a month on (hopefully) 21k a month pretax for a decade? Are the numbers doable?

Kind of getting cold feet with this amount of debt though I do think Cls is my best option.

The money is post tax

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Re: Law School
« Reply #1888 on: April 20, 2017, 08:52:34 PM »
The money is post tax
The loan payment is post tax.

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« Reply #1889 on: April 20, 2017, 08:57:23 PM »
Yes, but the ATL rankings have all the credibility of the Cooley rankings.
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