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    Activities & Attractions:
    • 770 - Headquarters of Chabad Lubavitch. - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/770_Eastern_Parkway
    • 770 to Ohel Bus (Morning) - Every day 10:30am in front of 770, $15. https://www.ohelchabad.org/media/pdf/87064.pdf
    • 770 to Ohel Bus (Night) - Every day 7:00pm in front of JCM Dreidel, $5. https://www.bustoohel.com
    • Brooklyn Botanic Garden - Beautiful gardens. Free entry every weekday in the winter months of December, January & February, otherwise $18 or free ticket courtesy of JP Morgan Chase sponsorship. - 990 Washington Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225 ~ (718) 623-7200 ~ http://www.bbg.org/
    • Brooklyn Children's Museum - The first museum in America to be dedicated specifically for children, $13. - 145 Brooklyn Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 735-4400 ~ http://www.brooklynkids.org/
    • Brooklyn Museum - NYC's second largest art museum. Large collection of Egyptology. Suggested admission is $16. - 200 Eastern Pkwy, Brooklyn, NY 11238 ~ (718) 638-5000 ~ http://www.brooklynmuseum.org/home.php
    • Brooklyn Public Library - The main central branch of the BPL. It contains over a million books, magazine and materials. - 10 Grand Army Plaza, Brooklyn, NY 11238 ~ (718) 230-2100 ~ http://www.bklynlibrary.org/locations/central
    • Chabad Library - Many books and manuscripts kept here from generations ago. Beautiful place to visit. - 766 Eastern Pkwy, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Agudas_Chassidei_Chabad
    • Jewish Children's Museum - The largest Jewish themed museum in America. An amazing experience for all ages. $15 per person 2+. - 792 Eastern Pkwy, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 467-0600 ~ https://www.jcm.museum
    • Jewish Hassidic Walking Tours - Excellent tour of CH, geared more towards the less observant to learn. Every day 10:00am, $49 per adult. - 305 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 953-5244 ~ https://jewishtours.com/
    • Prospect Park & Lake - Huge park with open playing fields, running & bicycle paths, horseback riding, ice skating (seasonal), and boating (seasonal). - Brooklyn, NY ~ (718) 965-8951 ~ http://www.prospectpark.org/visit
    • Prospect Park Zoo - Nice place to visit, many exhibits and animals. $6.95 Child and $9.95 Adult. - 450 Flatbush Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225 ~ (718) 399-7339 ~ http://www.prospectparkzoo.com/
    • The Levi Yitzchok Library - 305 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 778-4598 ~ http://www.leviyitzchoklibrary.com/
    • The Rebbe's House - 1304 President St, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • WLCC Visitors Center - 770 Eastern Pkwy, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 773-7777

    Airport Public Transportation Options:
    • EWR - Option 1: Take the NJT train to 34th St, connect to the 3 train. Cost $18.00 - Travel Time 1h15m. Option 2: Take bus #62 to downtown Newark, connect on Path to WTC, and from there to the 3 subway. Cost $7.10 - Travel Time 1h45m.
    • JFK - Get on the B15 bus, connect at New Lots Ave to the 3 train. Cost $2.75 with free Metro Card transfer - Travel Time 50m.
    • LGA - Take the M60 bus to Harlem 125th St and connect there to the 3/4 train. Cost $2.75 with free Metro Card transfer - Travel Time 1h45m.



    Men's Mikvaos:
    • Aliya Mikvah (Opening TBD) - 525-527 E New York Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Anash Mikvah (770 Montgomery) - 768 Montgomery St, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Eliyahu Nochum Shul (770 Lefferts) - 672 Lefferts Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11203
    • Empire Shtiebel Mikvah - 489 Empire Blvd, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Mikvah Mashbak - 578 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11203 ~ https://www.geshemshul.com/
    • Mikvah Meir - 394 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225 ~ https://www.mikvah.info/
    • Mikvah Mei Menachem (Rayim Ahuvim) - 1614 Carroll St, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Mikvah Taharas Reuven (Frankel's Shul) - 1699 President St, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Mikvah Yisroel (749) - 749 Eastern Pkwy, Brooklyn, NY 11213

    Women's Mikvaos:



    Bakeries & Cafes:

    Butchers and Takeout:
    • CH Butcher - New location with self checkout and large takeout section. - 334 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (347) 770-4048 ~ https://chbutcher.com/
    • Dovid Malka - Shabbos food take-out only. The best chulent in town and kugel too. - 1552 Carroll St, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 773-2335
    • Mermelstein Caterers - 351 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 778-3100
    • The House of Glatt - 385 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225 ~ (718) 467-9411

    Dairy Restaurants:

    Fish Markets and Takeout:
    • Benz's Gourmet - 332 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 778-3329 ~ http://benzsfish.com/
    • Raskin's Fish Market - 320 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 756-9521 ~ https://askin4raskin.com/
    • Shabbos Fish Market - 417 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225 ~ (347) 533-6004

    Fruits and Vegetables:
    • Lerman's Fresh Fruits & Vegetables - 455 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 604-0261
    • Mr Greens - 330 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 774-7336 ~ https://mistergreens.com/
    • Raskin's Fruit & Produce - 335 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213 ~ (718) 756-3888 ~ http://www.raskinsfruit.com/

    Groceries:

    Meat Restaurants:

    Pizza & Bagels:

    Supermarkets and Takeout:

    Sushi:

    Sweets, Ice Cream, & Dessert:

    Vegan Restaurants (Questionable Kashrus):

    Wine:

    Eateries OBM for Nostalgic Memories: (incomplete)
    • 21 Flavors - 423 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Albany Bagel - 513 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11203
    • Albany Bakery - 425 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Alenbi - 887 Nostrand Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Barista & The Baker - 167 Rogers Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11216
    • Basil Pizza & Wine Bar - 270 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Boulevard Cafe - 510 Empire Blvd, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Cafe Rimon - 453 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Calabria - 266 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Crown Kosher Meat Market - 413 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Dean Street Cafe - 87 Utica Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Empire Grill - 597 Empire Blvd, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Eshel Restaurant - 272 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Esther's Deli and Grill - 463 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Fish Fish And Cannoli - 513 Empire Blvd, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Izzy's Fried Chicken - 262 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Izzy's Taqueria - 399 Troy Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Jus by Julie - 1090 St Johns Pl, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • King's Juice - 426 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY, 11225
    • Kingston Falafel - 250 Kingston Ave # A, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • KT2 - 333 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Mason & Mug - 708 Washington Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11238
    • Natural Treats - 411 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Nosh World - 386 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Pardes - 497 Atlantic Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11217
    • PHOMEN Noodle Bar - 411 Troy Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Pletzel Pizza - 489 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Railroad Pizza - 227 Kingston Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Railroad Pizza - 857 East New York Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11203
    • Rita's Italian Ice - 1028 Lincoln Pl, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • The Kretchme - 411 Troy Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213
    • Twibar Falafel - 140 Empire Blvd Suite 2, Brooklyn, NY 11225
    • Zabari Bar - 252 Albany Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11213



    Crown Heights buildings where the number is sufficient to tell the address:
    • 770 - Well, everyone in the world knows that.
    • 749 - Eastern Parkway - dormitory building across from 770.
    • 1414 - President Street - dormitory building on corner of President and Kingston.
    • 706 - Eastern Parkway - Large old residential building.
    • 701 - Empire Blvd - residential building off the corner of Albany Avenue.
    • 675 - Empire Blvd - residential building adjacent to 701.

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1000 on: November 19, 2017, 11:35:31 PM »


    The way I understand it, the OK tries to portray itself differently when it comes to restaurants than when it comes to wholesale food manufacturing.

    Many have said that having OK supervised eateries in Crown Heights was already a step down, but that barrier has already been broken for a while.

    Is there something in the drinking water of that corner, that makes all the Kashrus supervision there go to another level? Calabria taking a Hechsher from Monsey, Basil going certified by owner, and now by OU.

    Only when the water is used to water plants on shabbos

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1001 on: November 19, 2017, 11:37:00 PM »
    ....
    Is there something in the drinking water of that corner, that makes all the Kashrus supervision there go to another level? Calabria taking a Hechsher from Monsey, Basil going certified by owner, and now by OU.

    Calabria tried to get a local Hechsher. That was their singular preference. It was the local establishment (and Basil's lawsuit) that did not permit them to do so.

    They had no other choice but to find one that would allow them to make Kosher pizza, even though it was across from Basil. Clearly was not a "kosher-ingredient/supervision" issue...
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1002 on: November 19, 2017, 11:38:16 PM »

    Only when the water is used to water plants on shabbos
    Must be using filtered water there.
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1003 on: November 19, 2017, 11:42:08 PM »
    Calabria tried to get a local Hechsher. That was their singular preference. It was the local establishment (and Basil's lawsuit) that did not permit them to do so.

    They had no other choice but to find one that would allow them to make Kosher pizza, even though it was across from Basil. Clearly was not a "kosher-ingredient/supervision" issue...
    Do you have intimate knowledge of the FACTS.

    I don't go to either of those places, but I recall seeing some psak from a beis din regarding Calabria (shape of Pizza, etc.) I don't know if they comply with that psak or not, but I can fully understand no reputable Kashrus organization wanting to certify them while in legal dispute.

    This gets even more political when considering some of the people involved here, but let's not even go there.

    I have stated more than once above, that this is not a question of whether the food is Kosher, it's a question of whether it is certified so and if yes, by whom.
    I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1004 on: November 19, 2017, 11:44:41 PM »

    Many have said that having OK supervised eateries in Crown Heights was already a step down
    Considering the Kretchme was self certified, don't see how the OK is a step down from that.
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1005 on: November 19, 2017, 11:47:57 PM »
    ....but I recall seeing some psak from a beis din regarding Calabria (shape of Pizza, etc.) I don't know if they comply with that psak or not, but I can fully understand no reputable Kashrus organization wanting to certify them while in legal dispute.
    ...

    correct; but as you mentioned in the point of Calabria, the Hechsher issue was not related to the food and supervision being Kosher or non-Kosher, it was just a "competition" or a legal matter. So in that case, if they get another hashgocha, it's not because they are trying to be lenient, but because others refused to cover their Hashgocha due to "Legal" matters (Basil suing them to stop them from opening in the first place.... Ridiculous reason to not allow local Hashgocha.

    Especially as we see: 1) it's an entirely different establishment. 2) There are thousands of customers to fill both of them within a 6 block radius.
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1006 on: November 20, 2017, 12:28:46 AM »
    Considering the Kretchme was self certified, don't see how the OK is a step down from that.
    As was the original Ess & Bentch.

    On the surface you are right, but there are other political and personal nuances that are better left unaddressed here at this point.
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1007 on: November 20, 2017, 08:13:20 AM »
    On the surface you are right, but there are other political and personal nuances that are better left unaddressed here at this point.
    THat is what I was really alluding to when mentioning cholov stam too. Not the hair splitting about ZTB. I am surprised that the OU would even give in CH since they would typically consider there to be local hechsherim and not compete.
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1008 on: November 20, 2017, 09:53:24 AM »
    THat is what I was really alluding to when mentioning cholov stam too. Not the hair splitting about ZTB. I am surprised that the OU would even give in CH since they would typically consider there to be local hechsherim and not compete.
    The OU usually only comes in to these situations with Reshus from the other. So I think the OK must have allowed them to.

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1009 on: November 20, 2017, 09:55:44 AM »
    The OU usually only comes in to these situations with Reshus from the other. So I think the OK must have allowed them to.
    Why would they have?
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1010 on: November 20, 2017, 10:00:53 AM »
    The OU usually only comes in to these situations with Reshus from the other. So I think the OK must have allowed them to.
    Lol.

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1011 on: November 20, 2017, 10:43:54 AM »
    The Basil-OK relationship was likely irreparable.
    Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1012 on: November 20, 2017, 10:54:22 AM »
    Lol.
    Do you know of a case where the OU has stepped on the local Vaad? I know of many situations where they specifically did not.

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1013 on: November 20, 2017, 10:55:16 AM »
    Do you know of a case where the OU has stepped on the local Vaad? I know of many situations where they specifically did not.
    The lol was about the OK being a "local Vaad"

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1014 on: November 20, 2017, 11:02:08 AM »
    The lol was about the OK being a "local Vaad"
    The OU typically also checks with a place that revokes certification.

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1015 on: November 20, 2017, 11:11:08 AM »
    The Basil-OK relationship was likely irreparable.
    You have a warm relationship with Rabbi Weinfeld. IINM he's in charge of the restaurant division of the OK. Why don't you get us some facts from him? Let's start with: does the OK certify restaurants that serve non-CY? You can then go to more touchy subjects such as Basil.
    I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1016 on: November 20, 2017, 11:15:23 AM »
    You have a warm relationship with Rabbi Weinfeld. IINM he's in charge of the restaurant division of the OK. Why don't you get us some facts from him? Let's start with: does the OK certify restaurants that serve non-CY? You can then go to more touchy subjects such as Basil.
    I haven't spoken to him in over a decade.
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1017 on: November 20, 2017, 11:17:48 AM »
    I haven't spoken to him in over a decade.
    He's a very nice guy. I'm sure he'll be nice to you despite you not keeping in contact with him.
    I've been waiting over 5 years with bated breath for someone to say that!
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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1018 on: November 20, 2017, 12:25:36 PM »
    I'm $ure there'$ a rea$onable explanation for everything. /$

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    Re: Crown Heights master thread
    « Reply #1019 on: November 20, 2017, 01:06:51 PM »
    I'm $ure there'$ a rea$onable explanation for everything. /$

    objectively, having workers seen publicly on Shabbos inside the facility is a definite last straw...
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