Author Topic: Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem (Read 1160701 times)

steve2 · « **Reply #20 on:** April 20, 2010, 02:19:55 PM »

Quote from: Dan on April 20, 2010, 02:13:13 PM

"The hotel will offer 220 spacious suites and guestrooms, with facilities
including a choice of three restaurants, a 5,381 square‐foot spa and fitness facility with pool, in addition to
extensive conference and meeting facilities and on‐site parking. Sited adjacent to the hotel, the luxurious
Residences at The Palace Jerusalem, The Waldorf Astoria Collection, comprising of 30 residences, will have
views of the Old City and will enjoy access to services from the hotel."

when was that written up? I remember seeing the original pics and the Hotel part was alot smaller then the building for the residences.I dont remember the #s but it sure wasnt 220 rooms . the Hotel part was suppose to be the old Palace Hotel the part that still has the old walls standing

I do know that the Mamilla is having its problems selling its private apts , which is a separate building from the Hotel. I wonder if they changed the #s as the economy soured and the chance of selling them got worse

Dan · « **Reply #21 on:** April 20, 2010, 02:30:32 PM »

Quote from: steve2 on April 20, 2010, 02:19:55 PM

when was that written up? I remember seeing the original pics and the Hotel part was alot smaller then the building for the residences.I dont remember the #s but it sure wasnt 220 rooms . the Hotel part was suppose to be the old Palace Hotel the part that still has the old walls standing

I do know that the Mamilla is having its problems selling its private apts , which is a separate building from the Hotel. I wonder if they changed the #s as the economy soured and the chance of selling them got worse

http://www.waldorfastoria.com/pdf/WAC%20Global%20Expansion%20-%20FINAL.PDF

steve2 · « **Reply #22 on:** April 20, 2010, 02:40:03 PM »

Quote from: Dan on April 20, 2010, 02:30:32 PM

http://www.waldorfastoria.com/pdf/WAC%20Global%20Expansion%20-%20FINAL.PDF

thanks for the link, and it seems its an old 1 at that

But the pic is way off according to the pic the Palace Hotel is directly across the street as the 1st building from the DC while in fact you need to cross 2 streets to reach it and there will be a building in between that 3 story building the pic shows and the DC. this pic shows 2 buildings while the ones I saw at the site were showing 3. The same 2 as the link has + a building between the Palace and the DC

Unless they knock down all the buildings on KD St and pave over it no way will a person beable to walk out of the Palace and be standing on KD St and they only knocked down a few of the buildings that are KD street as I believe they dont own them all

You will see what Im talking about when you are over there next month

from an Avis map the other street is called Ben Shimon its a narrow 1 way street (now closed) that went up to KD St yet on the links pic it seems to be a broad 2 way street (I think it goes by a different name, but still goes from Rehov Agron on a slant to KD St, and the last right turn if walking up on Agron towards the DC before hitting teh intersection of Agron and KD St.

BTW I just tried clicking on the link to www.thepalacejerusalem.com thats on the link you provided and its N/A and says it expired on 4/8/10

ceejay · « **Reply #23 on:** June 03, 2010, 11:50:57 PM »

New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14) w/ all the Hilton brandings

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com

Looks like it might be a reality after all

steve2 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 04, 2010, 12:12:42 AM »

Quote from: ceejay on June 03, 2010, 11:50:57 PM

New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14)

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com

Looks like it might be a reality after all

thanks for the link

as for it opening up, thats something else, they are working on it but ever so slowly, personally I dont see it till very late '11 or sometime in '12, unless they start working 24/7,OK 24/5 1/2

Dan · « **Reply #25 on:** November 18, 2010, 07:03:08 PM »

Quote from: ceejay on June 03, 2010, 11:50:57 PM

New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14) w/ all the Hilton brandings

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com

Looks like it might be a reality after all

Looks like it's been pushed to 2012.
It was supposed to have been operational by 12/10

At least there will be something to burn points on near the old city when it finally opens.
191 rooms, 30 suites, 2 presidential suites, 30 residences.

Dan · « **Reply #26 on:** October 17, 2011, 12:06:54 PM »

Quote from: ceejay on June 03, 2010, 11:50:57 PM

New Waldorf Astoria Jerusalem website (was created May 14) w/ all the Hilton brandings

waldorfastoriajerusalemhotel.com

Looks like it might be a reality after all

Quote from: Dan on November 18, 2010, 07:03:08 PM

Looks like it's been pushed to 2012.
It was supposed to have been operational by 12/10

At least there will be something to burn points on near the old city when it finally opens.
191 rooms, 30 suites, 2 presidential suites, 30 residences.

Now scheduled for a November 2012 opening according to www.waldorfastoria.com/future-openings

Every WA goes for 50K HHonors/night during low season except for WA Maui/Grand Wailea which goes for 70K.
During high season they go for 60K except for WA Maui/Grand Wailea and WA Maldives which goes for 80K.
If you are HH elite or a cardholders then you get a discount of 15% (for 4-night stays), 20% (5 nights), or 25% (6+ nights).

Or if Points & Money is available it is 30K+$100.

Dan · « **Reply #27 on:** February 09, 2012, 06:15:27 PM »

This seems like a strong sign that the Jerusalem Waldorf Astoria will actually open its doors one day...
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000713510&fid=1124

$30MM, that's $10MM more than Reichmann paid for the property in the first place!

YudiG · « **Reply #28 on:** February 10, 2012, 08:05:35 AM »

Quote from: Dan on February 09, 2012, 06:15:27 PM

This seems like a strong sign that the Jerusalem Waldorf Astoria will actually open its doors one day...
http://www.globes.co.il/serveen/globes/docview.asp?did=1000713510&fid=1124

$30MM, that's $10MM more than Reichmann paid for the property in the first place!

true but it is a $150MM project...

Dan · « **Reply #29 on:** February 10, 2012, 10:36:02 AM »

Quote from: YudiG on February 10, 2012, 08:05:35 AM

true but it is a $150MM project...

For sure, but that's a nice payday on a sale of just a fraction of the apartments and not even any of the hundreds of hotel rooms.

Yitz · « **Reply #30 on:** March 14, 2012, 07:44:46 AM »

Hilton points can be good for a Waldorf that is opening in Jerusalem at a great location

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #31 on:** March 14, 2012, 09:16:17 AM »

Quote from: AsherO on March 14, 2012, 08:52:34 AM

Nice suggestion.

But not necessarily will 2 Hilton points at the Waldorf be worth as much as 1 VS mile in upper class. Gotta calculate what works best for each person.

How many ptts does waldorf per night? I doubt the retail cost of their rooms in Jerusalem will cost so much

AsherO · « **Reply #32 on:** March 14, 2012, 09:20:24 AM »

Quote from: PlatinumGuy on March 14, 2012, 09:16:17 AM

How many ptts does waldorf per night? I doubt the retail cost of their rooms in Jerusalem will cost so much

My guess is it'll be 40/50k

Yitz · « **Reply #33 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:02:23 AM »

Waldorf is supposed to open sometime in 2012

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #34 on:** March 14, 2012, 10:05:29 AM »

Quote from: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 10:02:23 AM

Waldorf is supposed to open sometime in 2012

I don't one what is supposed to happen, but knowing Israel and seeing it, I wouldn't bet on anything before mid-2013

Yitz · « **Reply #35 on:** March 14, 2012, 12:57:51 PM »

It looked like it was getting finished this past September, I hope you are wrong.

Dan · « **Reply #36 on:** March 14, 2012, 01:37:18 PM »

Confirmed. Pushed from November 2012 to March 2013: http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/about/future-openings/index.html

PlatinumGuy · « **Reply #37 on:** March 14, 2012, 01:39:29 PM »

Quote from: Yitz on March 14, 2012, 12:57:51 PM

It looked like it was getting finished this past September, I hope you are wrong.

things look different to Israelis...

Quote from: Dan on March 14, 2012, 01:37:18 PM

Confirmed. Pushed from November 2012 to March 2013: http://waldorfastoria3.hilton.com/en/about/future-openings/index.html

I place my bet on 2014, only Reichman is a pioneer of fast construction

Yitz · « **Reply #38 on:** March 14, 2012, 02:46:45 PM »

When do Hilton points expire.

Dan · « **Reply #39 on:** March 14, 2012, 02:52:43 PM »

http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/19537

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