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Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
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Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
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PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
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Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
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Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

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« Reply #1520 on: June 07, 2015, 06:47:12 PM »
I never recommended to anyone to drive out there with a convertible or minivan.  I guess in  your infinite wisdom you deduced that.

And we've finally gotten there:

In language, context is key--a notion you seem to have overlooked. It was you who failed to deduce the fact that my warning pertained to his thought of driving in a minivan, and my experience driving a convertible.

Road to Polihale is doable with a minvan. We did it in a convertible. Just avoid at all costs driving on the sand when you get there. Almost got stuck.

No one suggested driving a 4x4 would be the same, nor would anyone here suggest that driving a minivan and/or convertible would be anything other than foolish. Except you.
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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1521 on: June 07, 2015, 06:48:00 PM »
And we've finally gotten there:

Context is key in language, a notion you seem to have overlooked. It was you who failed to deduce the fact that my warning pertained to his thought of driving in a minivan, and my experience driving a convertible.

No one suggested driving a 4x4 would be the same, nor would anyone here suggest that driving a minivan and/or convertible would be anything other than foolish. Except you.

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« Reply #1522 on: June 07, 2015, 06:51:38 PM »
To be called foolish by you is a compliment.

The telltale sign someone has lost the argument? When he (she?) avoids the substantive discussion and instead resorts to ad hominem attacks.

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« Reply #1523 on: June 07, 2015, 11:38:48 PM »
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Can you two please get a room

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1525 on: June 07, 2015, 11:50:47 PM »
West side of Kauai.
Where in Waimea?

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« Reply #1527 on: June 08, 2015, 02:23:23 AM »
Oy vey.  I know where Waimea and Waimea canyon are - I've been there several times. I was asking Dan where in Waimea canyon did he go with a Mustang.

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« Reply #1528 on: June 08, 2015, 07:39:44 AM »
Oy vey.  I know where Waimea and Waimea canyon are - I've been there several times. I was asking Dan where in Waimea canyon did he go with a Mustang.

Perhaps you should consider being a little bit more clear next time. It's all about context... did you not just witness the showdown between AJK and PBaruch?! :P

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« Reply #1529 on: June 08, 2015, 09:51:59 AM »
Oy vey.  I know where Waimea and Waimea canyon are - I've been there several times. I was asking Dan where in Waimea canyon did he go with a Mustang.
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« Reply #1530 on: June 08, 2015, 01:17:35 PM »
Perhaps you should consider being a little bit more clear next time. It's all about context... did you not just witness the showdown between AJK and PBaruch?! :P

But they're romantically involved, so I wouldn't extrapolate from their situation. :) Anyways, if you read Dan's post and my original comment again, I think you'll see my intent was fairly clear in context

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« Reply #1531 on: June 08, 2015, 01:19:58 PM »
Any where you want but off roading by miloulo (However it's spelled) and a couple other lesser known off roading sites the book doesn't talk about
There was one I remember reading about. It was past a campsite,  and leads to a hike in an interesting forrest - did you do that one in a Mustang?

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There was one I remember reading about. It was past a campsite,  and leads to a hike in an interesting forrest - did you do that one in a Mustang?
Was that in the revealed book?

I believe I did that one (And every other road in the canyon the GOV let me in). If it's not raining that is doable in a mustang but you'll cross over some rivers and probably wash away if it's raining, I wouldn't risk it.

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Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1533 on: June 08, 2015, 01:29:04 PM »
Thanks guys, went to Polihale yesterday was very nice.. Started going up to Waimea but then turned around, it was very cloudy there, and kids weren't too thrilled with the twists and turns..

Happy to hear of any other good secluded beach recommendations easily accessible by car, or other recommendations for young kids..

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« Reply #1534 on: June 08, 2015, 01:33:03 PM »
Thanks guys, went to Polihale yesterday was very nice.. Started going up to Waimea but then turned around, it was very cloudy there, and kids weren't too thrilled with the twists and turns..

Happy to hear of any other good secluded beach recommendations easily accessible by car, or other recommendations for young kids..
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« Reply #1537 on: June 08, 2015, 03:25:24 PM »

Fair enough, though I assume based on her asking specifically for a secluded beach that a busy beach is probably not what she meant by other activities...

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« Reply #1538 on: June 08, 2015, 04:47:40 PM »
Fair enough, though I assume based on her asking specifically for a secluded beach that a busy beach is probably not what she meant by other activities...


Speaking of assumptions that's a pretty big one...

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« Reply #1539 on: June 08, 2015, 05:10:10 PM »
Speaking of assumptions that's a pretty big one...
lol, I was actually thinking as I wrote it that I think I might be confusing you with someone else...