Topic Wiki

Kauai Overview/DansMeals:
http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/39185

Trip Reports:
Dan 2014
Dan 2009, Auntiemus, Benarroc, Westman812, Hudi, Yellow, Lechaim2life, DanFan2010, Jmansour, Something Fishy, Rivky, chuchem, dealvr, Amusch,
Tzadik Nistar, an613, @Yehuda, @Ygygold, Wizmanison 2017, CGR

Dan's concierge packet.


Related DDF Threads:
-Big Island Of Hawaii Master Thread
-Kauai Master Thread
-Maui Master Thread
-Oahu Master Thread


Before you go:

How long should I go for?
You could spend 10 years on Kauai and not get your fill. That being said, the bare minimum to enjoy your stay is 4 days on the ground. A week is ideal.

It's possible to do a short trip by leaving early Sunday morning, getting there in the afternoon, and then leaving Thursday night and being back home for shabbos.

Do I need a guide book?
Very definitely. Sure you could find most info online, but nothing compares to a good, written-by-a-local, guide book. Kauai Revealed is by far the best option, and will possibly be the best $16 you spent on your trip.

What about Shabbos?
Some authorities hold that there's a dateline issue with Shabbos.
The local communities keep shabbos on Saturday.
Definitely ask your LOR before you go - some hold simply that Shabbos is on Saturday, some hold that you have to keep Shabbos on both Friday and Saturday, and some hold that you have to keep D'oreisas on Friday and full Shabbos on Saturday.

If you must keep 2 days, remember that there are many questions that could come up (such as when to light Shabbos candles, how to warm up food, etc.), so make sure to discuss it all with your LOR.

There have been books written about the Chabad opinion of keeping shabbos only on Saturday. Rabbi Aharon Dovid Gancz gives an absolutely fascinating pilpul on the topic, if you get a chance to attend one please record it (with permission) and upload the video online.


Getting there and getting around:

Air:
The main airport is in Lihue, and is designated LIH.
You could fly directly from the mainland to LIH from
DEN (UA)
LAX (AA, DL, HA, UA)
OAK (AS, HA)
SAN (AS)
SEA (AS)
SFO (UA)
SJC (AS)
PDX (AS)
PHX (US)
YVR (WestJet)

There are no direct flights from the East coast, so you will stop in one of these cities.
Alternately, you could fly directly to Honolulu (HNL) and continue to LIH from there.

Hawaiian, Go, and Island Air fly interisland to LIH from HNL and OGG. There are no direct flights between LIH and the Big Island (ITO/KOA).

You can also use 5K AA or, 6k UA, or 7.5k HA miles each way to fly interisland. United allows a free stopover on a round-trip, so for instance you can fly HNL-LIH-OGG-HNL for just 12K miles.

Car:
A car is necessary on Kauai. All major companies have branches, mostly at the airport. There are also some local companies.

National has Executive Aisle/Selection at the airport, but Hertz doesn't have Gold Choice. Avis also has a desk at the Grand Hyatt Kauai. Check out www.discounthawaiicarrental.com - they book from the major brands, and are worth a try.

There's nothing like a convertible on Kauai, but a 4WD is better (sometimes even necessary) for certain places such as Polihale Beach or Milolii Ridge Road. Taking a convertible for most of your stay and a 4WD for a day or two is a good idea.


Where to stay:

There are 3 major areas where to stay. The South side is drier so good weather is more or less guaranteed. The North side is far prettier, with sheer cliffs and a backdrop of lovely green mountains. However, the weather in winter could be rainy and it can be buggy as well.
The rain typically doesn't last long, and is usually accompanied by numerous rainbows, so it's usually not too bad. However, it's something you should take into account. The East side has the cities of Lihue and Kapa'a, alone with countless hotels and resorts. This area isn't as beautiful and the North or South side.

When choosing an area also consider how far it is to your chosen activities, not just the weather, For example, it takes about an hour from the Grand Hyatt to Waimea Canyon, but over two hours from the St. Regis.  On the other hand the St. Regis is much closer to north shore activities.

Here are some places that are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaMore InfoComments
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Grand Hyatt KauaiSouth sideWebsiteGenerally considered to be the top hotel on Kauai, and countless DDF'ers have stayed there. The weather is perfect year-round, it's right by Poipu beach, and you drive through an awesome tree tunnel to get there. There are countless pools and exotic birds all around.
St. Regis PrincevilleNorth sideWebsiteAnother beautiful hotel, this is an SPG category 7. The setting of the SRP is absolutely breathtaking, with the ocean crashing on the cliffs below and the waterfall-filled mountains in the background. The views from the rooms are unparalleled, but most rooms have no balconies.
Westin Princeville Ocean Resort Villas North sideWebsiteSPG category 6.
Sheraton Kauai Resort South sideWebsiteSPG category 5.
"Get your own place"AnywhereWebsiteThere are countless condos, timeshares, or villas available to rent on the island. The advantages are that you get more for your money - a couple of bedrooms, living/dining rooms, and a full kitchen. There will usually be a pool, sometimes even a private one. Additionally, they're often cheaper than a hotel. There are many places to find them -
 HomeAway Kauai
VRBO Kauai
Airbnb Kauai, etc.


What to do:

Beaches:
There are countless beaches on Kauai, and all are public. Most offer amazing snorkeling. The East and South side beaches are safe for swimming / snorkeling year round, while some North and West beaches could be deadly in winter. Here are some popular ones, in no particular order:

NameAreaComments
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
PoipuSouth sideThis beach is right by the GHK. Full amenities (lifeguard, showers, etc.). Snorkeling is amazing here, especially in the morning. Sea turtles and the critically endangered Hawaiian monk seal are commonly seen here. Gorgeous sunsets.
Ke'eNorth sideThis beach is the gateway to the famous Kalalau Trail. The view from here is amazing, looking out over the majestic Na Pali cliffs. Great snorkeling, with a large fringing reef. This beach could be deadly winter, when 20-foot waves crash onto shore. However, at times it's perfectly calm. Use common sense. The beach is part of Hāʻena State Park
TunnelsNorth sideBeautiful crescent beach, with a lovely view of "Puff the Magic Dragon" mountain. Great snorkeling, and beautiful sunrises. May be dangerous in winter.
LumahaiNorth sideVery pretty beach, where they filmed South Pacific. Extremely dangerous winter.
PolihaleWest side17 solid miles of uninterrupted sand. Fairly remote, and accessible only via dirt and sand road, so 4WD is preferred. Unswimmable most of the year, but the area called Queens Pond is safe all year round. Since it's so huge, you could easily find a secluded spot. Great view of the south side of Na Pali, with amazing sunsets.
Queen's BathNorth sideThis is a rocky beach by the cliffs under Princeville. Very cool during the summer, when you could swim in a rock pool with the fish, but absolutely deadly during the winter (people die there all the time).
KalalauNorth sideOne of the most beautiful beaches in the entire world. Unfortunately, it's only accessible via one of the most difficult and most dangerous hikes in the world, the Kalalau Trail.
HonopūNorth sideAnother one of the top ten beaches in the world. The only way to get there is by swimming - from Kalalau beach :o!
Hanalei BayNorth sideA beautiful crescent beach with wonderful views. Mediocre snorkeling, but safe even in the winter. Very predictable waves, so this is the top spot for learning to surf or paddle. Breathtaking sunrises and sunsets.
SecretNorth sideRelatively secluded beach, and needs a bit of a hike to get there.
LydgateEast sideA fully protected beach, with pretty good snorkeling. Great for little kids, but is usually very busy.
NawiliwiliEast sideBoring beach, but the park of the the side is a nice place to stop for lunch and watch the kitesurfers.
Kapa'aEast sideAnother relatively boring beach, but a nice place to have lunch if you're in Kapa'a.


Hiking:
There are a tremendous amount of great hikes on Kauai. Check the Kauai Revealed book for detailed info on all of them, with maps, difficulty ratings, etc. These are just a few which are discussed in this thread:

NameAreaComments
___________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Hike 1Area 1Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2Area 2Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.


Other activities:

ActivityComments
_______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
Helicopter toursEasily the most expensive activity on Kauai, and easily the most amazing. You get to see otherwise inaccessible places - among others, you fly into Waimea Canyon, along the stunning Na Pali coast, and into the crater of the extinct Mount Waiʻaleʻale, now the wettest place on earth. It's an experience that could simply not be matched. Blue Hawaiian is the most popular and usually recommended. Jack Harter also flies amazing doors-off tours, which are wet, windy, and exhilirating :D.
Powered hang glidingThis is a unique flight lesson (counts a flying time for a pilot's license) in what's basically a motorized tricycle with wings. Supposed to be tremendous fun. Offered by Birds in Paradise.
Waimea CanyonLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlookLorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hanalei Valley overlook
Kayaking
Biking
ATVing
Horseback riding
Ziplining
Cruises
4 Wheel Driving


Shopping:
  • Costco in Lihue has some kosher food, as well as the cheapest gas on the island
  • Wal-Mart, also in Lihue, also has some kosher food

« Last edited by cgr on February 24, 2022, 09:16:59 PM »

Author Topic: Kauai, HI Master Thread  (Read 831366 times)


Offline Buruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 1984
  • Total likes: 39
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1201 on: December 07, 2014, 07:35:15 PM »
Dont they get upset if you do that a lot? Also, does this work for amex plat?

Offline kangarruu

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Gold Elite
  • ******
  • Join Date: Apr 2013
  • Posts: 882
  • Total likes: 11
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 4
    • View Profile
  • Location: New York
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1202 on: December 07, 2014, 08:08:07 PM »
Dont they get upset if you do that a lot? Also, does this work for amex plat?

Who are you worried about getting upset? Barclay or Southwest?

For Amex Platinum you can use the PGGM for the airline credit.

Offline Buruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 1984
  • Total likes: 39
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1203 on: December 07, 2014, 08:14:04 PM »
Barclays. 

Offline mokellman

  • Dansdeals Bronze Elite
  • *
  • Join Date: Jul 2014
  • Posts: 34
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: United States
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1204 on: December 07, 2014, 08:20:33 PM »
My only comments on your itinerary is on the Makaha Ridge Road.


Curious if mokellman did the path and what his thought are (or anyone else who took that path).
We did not do Makaha Ridge Road and happy I did miloli ridge road instead.
Miloli must be done with 4wd, roof off and windows down. It was probably my most adventurous drive ever. Don't go past the picnic tables if the road is wet, you probably will get stuck.

Offline mokellman

  • Dansdeals Bronze Elite
  • *
  • Join Date: Jul 2014
  • Posts: 34
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: United States
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1205 on: December 07, 2014, 08:25:05 PM »
As of now it looks like next week won't see much rain there, am I right in assuming that would mean not so much mud?

DW and I are not athletes, but I think (read: hope) we're in good shape.

How much time would you say we'd need to do it at a decent pace?
I highly suggest you rent a kayak right near secret falls. The other places are a 40 minute + each way from the falls and a waste of time.
We did secret falls while it was muddy and my wife was pregnant 6 months. We took our time and enjoyed the challenge. It took us an hour to get to the falls and probably 35 minutes to get back down. You must wear tabbies or cheap water shoes. We ate lunch at the falls.   

Offline Buruch

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Dec 2012
  • Posts: 1984
  • Total likes: 39
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 3
    • View Profile
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1206 on: December 07, 2014, 09:02:10 PM »
It's always muddy. Question is, how muddy? Maybe I went at an abnormally muddy time. Also got my 4wd stuck in the mud on miloli

Offline 3yummyboys

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Apr 2013
  • Posts: 1736
  • Total likes: 32
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1207 on: December 08, 2014, 11:02:27 AM »
Dont they get upset if you do that a lot? Also, does this work for amex plat?


Can this be done with regular SW points or only through Barclays?

Offline Joe4007

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2013
  • Posts: 4078
  • Total likes: 155
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1208 on: December 08, 2014, 09:56:33 PM »


Jack Harter flies doors-off. Supposed to be an insane experience.
It sure is! Was amazing!

Offline uchiknow

  • DansDeals Copper Elite
  • *
  • Join Date: Dec 2014
  • Posts: 8
  • Total likes: 0
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
  • Location: New York
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1209 on: December 09, 2014, 09:17:39 PM »
Hi - Sorry I'm new to this forum so I apologize if there's a different thread to post this in.

I'm looking to book tickets to Hawaii (Kauai or Maui) for June, leaving from New York. I have a shmorgasboard of points (detailed below) and was wondering if someone can advise the best way to use these points.

My current points:
Amex Delta - 100K
United Airways - 100K
British Airways - 100K
Chase UR - 30K
Marriott Rewards - 140K

Obviously looking to stay in a Marriott since I have the points for it, but in terms of airfare, can someone point me in the right direction?

Thanks!

Offline MC

  • Dansdeals Lifetime Platinum Elite
  • *******
  • Join Date: Aug 2013
  • Posts: 1730
  • Total likes: 49
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1210 on: December 09, 2014, 10:22:27 PM »
Hi - Sorry I'm new to this forum so I apologize if there's a different thread to post this in.
This is the correct thread.
Welcome and thanks for trying!

Offline kivabb

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2010
  • Posts: 747
  • Total likes: 84
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1211 on: December 10, 2014, 11:20:06 AM »
Assuming it's dry, I'm considering doing the Nualolo trail with my wife and baby in tow (carrier). Both of us in good shape. Only have 1 day in Canyon. Can anyone share their thoughts if okay to do with baby? Is that picture of Dan wrapped around the cliff from this section of the hike or is it later on in the Nu’alolo/Awa’awapuhi grand loop hike? That might be a bit much. I know the trail connecting the 2 trails is closed now. Also, do I do the lookouts (Kalalau and Puu) before the hike or after the hike? Thanks!

Online Something Fishy

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 8758
  • Total likes: 6254
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 44
    • View Profile
    • Kosher Horizons
  • Location: Iceland
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1212 on: December 10, 2014, 12:10:31 PM »
Assuming it's dry, I'm considering doing the Nualolo trail with my wife and baby in tow (carrier). Both of us in good shape. Only have 1 day in Canyon. Can anyone share their thoughts if okay to do with baby? Is that picture of Dan wrapped around the cliff from this section of the hike or is it later on in the Nu’alolo/Awa’awapuhi grand loop hike? That might be a bit much. I know the trail connecting the 2 trails is closed now. Also, do I do the lookouts (Kalalau and Puu) before the hike or after the hike? Thanks!

Dunno know about the trails, but the lookouts are amazing late afternoon/sunset, so I'd say after.
Check out my site for epic kosher adventures: Kosher Horizons

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67757
  • Total likes: 17194
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1213 on: December 10, 2014, 12:19:04 PM »
Assuming it's dry, I'm considering doing the Nualolo trail with my wife and baby in tow (carrier). Both of us in good shape. Only have 1 day in Canyon. Can anyone share their thoughts if okay to do with baby? Is that picture of Dan wrapped around the cliff from this section of the hike or is it later on in the Nu’alolo/Awa’awapuhi grand loop hike? That might be a bit much. I know the trail connecting the 2 trails is closed now. Also, do I do the lookouts (Kalalau and Puu) before the hike or after the hike? Thanks!
Those pics are from the connecting trail that is apparently closed.

Dunno know about the trails, but the lookouts are amazing late afternoon/sunset, so I'd say after.
Early morning is supposed to be the least foggy time though...
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Online Something Fishy

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 8758
  • Total likes: 6254
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 44
    • View Profile
    • Kosher Horizons
  • Location: Iceland
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1214 on: December 10, 2014, 12:55:02 PM »
Early morning is supposed to be the least foggy time though...

The entire valley will be in the shade in the morning - dark with no details. In the afternoon it will be lit up with beautiful light. The fog usually doesn't hang around to long; it's generally more like a rolling fog - it'll come in and out and just add to the scene. Even if it is socked in it usually doesn't last too long.
Check out my site for epic kosher adventures: Kosher Horizons

Offline Dan

  • Administrator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime 50K Diamond Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: May 2008
  • Posts: 67757
  • Total likes: 17194
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 16442
  • Gender: Male
    • View Profile
  • Location: CLE
  • Programs: UA GS, AA EXP, DL Dirt, Hyatt Glob, Fairmont Lifetime Plat, DD Diamond, Blocked By @NeriaKraus
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1215 on: December 10, 2014, 01:03:23 PM »
The entire valley will be in the shade in the morning - dark with no details. In the afternoon it will be lit up with beautiful light. The fog usually doesn't hang around to long; it's generally more like a rolling fog - it'll come in and out and just add to the scene. Even if it is socked in it usually doesn't last too long.
I've waited an hour in the afternoon and had no luck at seeing a thing.
YMMV I suppose.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

Offline kivabb

  • Dansdeals Platinum Elite + Lifetime Silver Elite
  • *****
  • Join Date: Mar 2010
  • Posts: 747
  • Total likes: 84
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 0
    • View Profile
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1216 on: December 10, 2014, 01:16:54 PM »
I see the trailhead is like a 8 minute drive from Kalalau lookout so maybe I'll make a run for it before if weather is good. I can always return.

I see now some say Awaawapuhi is even better hike.

If I can do only one, should it be Nualolo or Awaawapuhi?


Online Something Fishy

  • Global Moderator
  • Dansdeals Lifetime Presidential Platinum Elite
  • **********
  • Join Date: Jan 2011
  • Posts: 8758
  • Total likes: 6254
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 44
    • View Profile
    • Kosher Horizons
  • Location: Iceland
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1217 on: December 10, 2014, 01:20:53 PM »
If I can do only one, should it be Nualolo or Awaawapuhi?

Kalalau :))
Check out my site for epic kosher adventures: Kosher Horizons

Offline efflpetzel

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Aug 2012
  • Posts: 2839
  • Total likes: 141
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 1
    • View Profile
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1218 on: December 24, 2014, 10:39:29 PM »
what the heck is this Latin in the wiki >:(


Quote
Name   Area   Comments   
______________________________________________________________   ____________________________________________________   _________________________________________________________________________________   
Hike 1   Area 1   Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Hike 2   Area 2   Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.

Other activities:

Activity   Comments   
______________________________________________________________________________________________________________________   _________________________________________________________________________________   

Waimea Canyon   Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.
Kalalau Valley overlook   Lorem ipsum dolor sit amet, consectetuer adipiscing elit, sed diam nonummy nibh euismod tincidunt ut laoreet dolore magna aliquam erat volutpat. Ut wisi enim ad minim veniam, quis nostrud exerci tation ullamcorper suscipit lobortis nisl ut aliquip ex ea commodo consequat.

Offline Joe4007

  • Dansdeals Presidential Platinum Elite
  • ********
  • Join Date: Feb 2013
  • Posts: 4078
  • Total likes: 155
  • DansDeals.com Hat Tips 11
    • View Profile
  • Location: NY
Re: Kauai, HI Master Thread
« Reply #1219 on: December 24, 2014, 10:42:25 PM »