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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #45 on: January 21, 2013, 04:05:38 PM »
Welcome to Israel.

And welcome to realizing that the Eida Chareidis was always one big facade, pretending like they are so Machmir that they won't touch anything from any other Hechsher.

And B"H for realizing the fact that they aren't Machmir every. single. chumra. as they pretend to be.
JKN had a great story about this around 2 yrs ago w/ regards to a bakery under their hechsher that was buying things from a 'lower' hechsher when they had to cater but didn't have enough supplies.
True achdus...

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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #46 on: January 21, 2013, 04:13:39 PM »
JKN had a great story about this around 2 yrs ago w/ regards to a bakery under their hechsher that was buying things from a 'lower' hechsher when they had to cater but didn't have enough supplies.
True achdus...

Someone should investigate why the Eida chickens cost DOUBLE the other Mehadrin Hechsherim.

You would think they slaughter chickens that lay golden eggs.  :P
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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #47 on: January 21, 2013, 04:14:55 PM »
Someone should investigate why the Eida chickens cost DOUBLE the other Mehadrin Hechsherim.

You would think they slaughter chickens that lay golden eggs.  :P
It's b/c their customers can afford it, so they charge it.
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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #48 on: January 21, 2013, 04:22:32 PM »
It's b/c their customers can afford it, so they charge it.
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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #49 on: January 22, 2013, 01:04:56 AM »

He also said that he met with a group of them to ask questions, and he asked about relying on the rabbanut hechsher for fruits and veggies. He was told that "Since we are from the Eida Chareidis, we can't tell you that you can rely on their hechsher, even though you are allowed to rely on their hechsher."  :)   (approx quote since I couldn't write it down on shabbos)
You sure this wasn't about Rebanut Mehadrin? Cause I heard specifically that there are issue with Rabbanut T&M
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Re: Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #50 on: January 22, 2013, 02:00:48 AM »
You sure this wasn't about Rebanut Mehadrin? Cause I heard specifically that there are issue with Rabbanut T&M

There is almost no difference at all between Rabbanut and Rabbanut Mehadrin (Jerusalem) when it comes to fruits and vegetables. The only difference is that regular Rabbanut sells papaya and two other random fruits that are safeik orla. This is what I heard from R' Shlessinger (head of Jerusalem Rabbinate), I may have a recording of it.

Therefore, if you trust the Mehadrin, you trust regular Rabbanut too :P
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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #51 on: January 22, 2013, 03:34:53 AM »
There is almost no difference at all between Rabbanut and Rabbanut Mehadrin (Jerusalem) when it comes to fruits and vegetables. The only difference is that regular Rabbanut sells papaya and two other random fruits that are safeik orla. This is what I heard from R' Shlessinger (head of Jerusalem Rabbinate), I may have a recording of it.

Therefore, if you trust the Mehadrin, you trust regular Rabbanut too :P

I don't, but I was told specifically about Rabanut that they only maaser the stuff that comes into the shuk in the morning, and they don't even look at the stuff that comes in afterwards. If you're saying that RH is the same, then that goes to show you just how bad RH really is.

Is this recording from the speech at Senters?
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Re: Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #52 on: January 22, 2013, 04:29:00 AM »
I don't, but I was told specifically about Rabanut that they only maaser the stuff that comes into the shuk in the morning, and they don't even look at the stuff that comes in afterwards. If you're saying that RH is the same, then that goes to show you just how bad RH really is.

Is this recording from the speech at Senters?

They maaser everything that comes into Jerusalem at the fields or at the distribution centers, I don't remember exactly which.

The class was at the OU center a couple months back.

What's RH?
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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #53 on: January 22, 2013, 06:06:48 AM »
They maaser everything that comes into Jerusalem at the fields or at the distribution centers, I don't remember exactly which.

The class was at the OU center a couple months back.

What's RH?
Sorry, meant Rabbanut Mehadrin
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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #54 on: January 22, 2013, 08:28:36 AM »
Someone should investigate why the Eida chickens cost DOUBLE the other Mehadrin Hechsherim.

You would think they slaughter chickens that lay golden eggs.  :P
they throw out sfeikos that other hechsherim use.  hence, they jack up the price. 

i know eida bashing is a fad, but try to learn some facts before doing it, will make for better bashing

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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #55 on: January 22, 2013, 08:48:24 AM »
i know eida bashing is a fad,
I wonder why

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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #56 on: January 22, 2013, 09:58:23 AM »
they throw out sfeikos that other hechsherim use.  hence, they jack up the price. 

i know eida bashing is a fad, but try to learn some facts before doing it, will make for better bashing
Good point.
Although I would be interested in seeing the profit margins for each of the agencies to see if suspicions are correct.

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Re: Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #57 on: January 22, 2013, 10:04:23 AM »
they throw out sfeikos that other hechsherim use.  hence, they jack up the price. 

i know eida bashing is a fad, but try to learn some facts before doing it, will make for better bashing

All the Mehadrin hechsherim throw out the sfeikos. Only the Eida charges double.

Your post shows us how clueless you are about the Kashrus industry.

I would have some hope for you, but sadly enough, ignorance isn't a fad.
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Re: Re: Kashrus
« Reply #58 on: January 22, 2013, 10:49:29 AM »
According to the cRc it is recommended
There is a cRc app which is great! It has most of the symbols as well as recommended products..

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Re: Re: Re: Kashrus
« Reply #59 on: January 22, 2013, 11:06:05 AM »
There is a cRc app which is great! It has most of the symbols...

It has only the symbols that they approve of. Only Kashrus experts can see the 200 or so symbols that the cRc disapproves of or didn't approve yet.
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