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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #90 on: February 12, 2013, 02:59:33 PM »
He's referring to the eida. And I agree with them in regards to Jerusalem rabbinate fruits.

Here's a fun fact: Eida relies on Rabbanut mashgichim that also work for the rabbanut in places such as matzot yehuda.
FTFY

Very big difference
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #91 on: February 12, 2013, 02:59:45 PM »
do you really think the bedatz relies on rabanut trumos and maasros? is this official policy? does badatz allow their stores to use rabanut fruit?


what are you guys smoking? ill have some...

They probably don't rely on them as an official policy, but its not a stretch to say that they know in reality rabbanut Jerusalem fruits are ok.

I'm smoking rabbanut weed, so you're gonna have to sit this one out :P O0
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #92 on: February 12, 2013, 03:01:47 PM »
FTFY

Very big difference

Unfix. There are places that the Eida is hired in addition to rabbanut, and they keep the rabbanut mashgiach. Mashgichim that don't work for the eida aren't necessarily bad.

ETA: I'm unsure of what you tried to add. That eida hires the same people in eida establishments?
« Last Edit: February 12, 2013, 03:09:12 PM by yuneeq »
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #93 on: February 12, 2013, 03:08:45 PM »
Unfix. There are places that the Eida is hired in addition to rabbanut, and they keep the rabbanut mashgiach. Mashgichim that don't work for the eida aren't necessarily bad.

Correct, they just need to know the difference now that they are also hired by the Eida.

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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #94 on: February 12, 2013, 03:46:02 PM »
do you really think the bedatz relies on rabanut trumos and maasros? is this official policy? does badatz allow their stores to use rabanut fruit?


what are you guys smoking? ill have some...

I'm just quoting over from what our Rav said in his kashrus shiur in shul on shabbos last month, and I've posted it b/f as well.
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #95 on: February 12, 2013, 03:51:52 PM »
He's referring to the eida. And I agree with them in regards to Jerusalem rabbinate fruits.

Fruit don't grow in Jerusalem.

ערלה supervision would be under other Rabbinate which the J'lem is required by law to rely on.
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #96 on: February 12, 2013, 04:01:03 PM »
Fruit don't grow in Jerusalem.

ערלה supervision would be under other Rabbinate which the J'lem is required by law to rely on.

Nope. I heard from R' Shlessinger directly that the Jerusalem Rabbinate sends a dozen mashgichim to go take the terumos and ma'asros before the fruits and vegs are brought into Jerusalem. It's a detailed and specific process, it is not at all what you think.
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #97 on: February 13, 2013, 04:57:00 AM »
Nope. I heard from R' Shlessinger directly that the Jerusalem Rabbinate sends a dozen mashgichim to go take the terumos and ma'asros before the fruits and vegs are brought into Jerusalem. It's a detailed and specific process, it is not at all what you think.
and yet, the eidah doesnt allow produce into a restaurant until they personally take off trumos and maasros. if the storeowner brings it in before the eidah arrives, the hechsher is revoked on the spot

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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #98 on: February 13, 2013, 05:29:05 AM »
and yet, the eidah doesnt allow produce into a restaurant until they personally take off trumos and maasros. if the storeowner brings it in before the eidah arrives, the hechsher is revoked on the spot

Every reliable hechsher is the same in that aspect. No reliable hechsher would let a store owner bring in his own products when the mashgiach isn't there. Kashrus 101.
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #99 on: February 13, 2013, 05:59:26 AM »
Every reliable hechsher is the same in that aspect. No reliable hechsher would let a store owner bring in his own products when the mashgiach isn't there. Kashrus 101.
so they dont rely on the rabanut produce

and i dont think the rabbanut has such a policy in place

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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #100 on: February 13, 2013, 06:13:00 AM »
How about continuing this is the kashrus thread?

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Re: Kosher Symbol?
« Reply #101 on: February 13, 2013, 06:14:36 AM »
i didnt see this thread until now, but i can comment from what i heard 3rd person

the reason why bedatz is more expensive is because by rubin and landau they have 3 bins, one for kosher, one for treif and one for safek. the treif bin is sold to the arabs and the safek bin is sold to the rabbanut.
since the bedatz doesnt do business with the rabbanut, both bins are sold to the arabs, thus commanding a lower price

i dont know this first hand though

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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #102 on: February 13, 2013, 06:16:25 AM »
How about continuing this is the kashrus thread?
link?

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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #103 on: February 13, 2013, 06:16:30 AM »
so they dont rely on the rabanut produce

and i dont think the rabbanut has such a policy in place

I never said though that's probably true. What I'm trying to explain to you is that no unmarked produce or products can enter a store without supervision. If the fruits aren't supervised, they aren't necessarily rabbanut.

If you'd like to hear for yourself what their policy is, PM me for a recording.
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Re: Re: Hurray, SPG Dead Sea is back!!!
« Reply #104 on: February 13, 2013, 06:19:06 AM »
How about continuing this is the kashrus thread?

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