Author Topic: Kosher, Kashrus and Hechsherim Master thread (Read 962442 times)

Drago · « **Reply #100 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:13:00 AM »

How about continuing this is the kashrus thread?

moish · « **Reply #101 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:14:36 AM »

i didnt see this thread until now, but i can comment from what i heard 3rd person

the reason why bedatz is more expensive is because by rubin and landau they have 3 bins, one for kosher, one for treif and one for safek. the treif bin is sold to the arabs and the safek bin is sold to the rabbanut.
since the bedatz doesnt do business with the rabbanut, both bins are sold to the arabs, thus commanding a lower price

i dont know this first hand though

moish · « **Reply #102 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:16:25 AM »

Quote from: Drago on February 13, 2013, 06:13:00 AM

How about continuing this is the kashrus thread?

link?

yuneeq · « **Reply #103 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:16:30 AM »

Quote from: moish on February 13, 2013, 05:59:26 AM

so they dont rely on the rabanut produce

and i dont think the rabbanut has such a policy in place

I never said though that's probably true. What I'm trying to explain to you is that no unmarked produce or products can enter a store without supervision. If the fruits aren't supervised, they aren't necessarily rabbanut.

If you'd like to hear for yourself what their policy is, PM me for a recording.

yuneeq · « **Reply #104 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:19:06 AM »

Quote from: Drago on February 13, 2013, 06:13:00 AM

How about continuing this is the kashrus thread?

Agreed.

yuneeq · « **Reply #105 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:38:31 AM »

Quote from: moish on February 13, 2013, 06:14:36 AM

i didnt see this thread until now, but i can comment from what i heard 3rd person

the reason why bedatz is more expensive is because by rubin and landau they have 3 bins, one for kosher, one for treif and one for safek. the treif bin is sold to the arabs and the safek bin is sold to the rabbanut.
since the bedatz doesnt do business with the rabbanut, both bins are sold to the arabs, thus commanding a lower price

i dont know this first hand though

I don't have any first hand info about this either, but I wouldn't believe that in a million years.

moish · « **Reply #106 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:44:36 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on February 13, 2013, 06:38:31 AM

I don't have any first hand info about this either, but I wouldn't believe that in a million years.

which part do you have a hard time believing?

yuneeq · « **Reply #107 on:** February 13, 2013, 06:51:55 AM »

Quote from: moish on February 13, 2013, 06:44:36 AM

which part do you have a hard time believing?

I have hard time believing they sell sfeikos to rabbanut. Most slaughtering is done in South America largely because they don't lose money when selling the non kosher animals to the large gentile population. Same thing with sfeikos.

And if somehow those hechsherim actually do sell to rabbanut, I wouldn't believe that the eida policy is different.

moish · « **Reply #108 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:13:29 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on February 13, 2013, 06:51:55 AM

I have hard time believing they sell sfeikos to rabbanut. Most slaughtering is done in South America largely because they don't lose money when selling the non kosher animals to the large gentile population. Same thing with sfeikos.

And if somehow those hechsherim actually do sell to rabbanut, I wouldn't believe that the eida policy is different.

youre mixing up chicken with beef

and you dont see why the badatz wouldnt do business with rabbanut? did you just move here?

yuneeq · « **Reply #109 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:45:24 AM »

Quote from: moish on February 13, 2013, 07:13:29 AM

youre mixing up chicken with beef

and you dont see why the badatz wouldnt do business with rabbanut? did you just move here?

No one ever mentioned chicken. I was talking about beef, which has more kashrus issues.

And no, I don't see why eida wouldn't sell stuff to the rabbanut. Its preposterous to think otherwise.
And yes, I just moved here only 7 years ago. Though I'm unoffended from your assumptions, I want you to know one thing. I'm not a kashrus expert, but I have a great amount of practical and hands-on kashrus knowledge in Israel, so not always will I just spew nonsense.

Drago · « **Reply #110 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:49:35 AM »

Anyone want to organize a DO w/ some different kashrus experts from the different hechsherim along with Yechiel Spero?

yuneeq · « **Reply #111 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:52:14 AM »

Quote from: Drago on February 13, 2013, 07:49:35 AM

Anyone want to organize a DO w/ some different kashrus experts from the different hechsherim along with Yechiel Spero?

I'm pretty sure that the different hechsherim would not get together. But if there's enough interest, I can probably set up something with Yechiel Spira

Dan · « **Reply #112 on:** February 13, 2013, 07:59:49 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on February 13, 2013, 07:45:24 AM

so not always will I just spew nonsense.

Based on reading your 613 posts in the past month...YMMV

yuneeq · « **Reply #113 on:** February 13, 2013, 08:06:26 AM »

Quote from: Dan on February 13, 2013, 07:59:49 AM

Based on reading your 613 posts in the past month...YMMV

Happy to hear that you read every post of mine

I wish I didn't have to post this because I really like the number 613

Drago · « **Reply #114 on:** February 13, 2013, 08:34:47 AM »

Quote from: yuneeq on February 13, 2013, 08:06:26 AM

Happy to hear that you read every post of mine

I wish I didn't have to post this because I really like the number 613

delete it and start a new profile. YuneeqII

Jkhein · « **Reply #115 on:** February 13, 2013, 08:45:54 AM »

Quote from: Drago on February 13, 2013, 08:34:47 AM

delete it and start a new profile. YuneeqII

or YuneekIII sorry, couldn't resist

Drago · « **Reply #116 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:04:04 PM »

Quote from: Jkhein on February 13, 2013, 08:45:54 AM

or YuneekIII sorry, couldn't resist

How about UReek?

yuneeq · « **Reply #117 on:** February 13, 2013, 01:35:59 PM »

Quote from: Jkhein on February 13, 2013, 08:45:54 AM

or YuneekIII sorry, couldn't resist

Don't get it, so I don't mind

Quote from: Drago on February 13, 2013, 01:04:04 PM

How about UReek?

Ouch!

yare · « **Reply #118 on:** February 13, 2013, 02:39:25 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on February 13, 2013, 07:45:24 AM

No one ever mentioned chicken. I was talking about beef, which has more kashrus issues.

And no, I don't see why eida wouldn't sell stuff to the rabbanut. Its preposterous to think otherwise.
And yes, I just moved here only 7 years ago. Though I'm unoffended from your assumptions, I want you to know one thing. I'm not a kashrus expert, but I have a great amount of practical and hands-on kashrus knowledge in Israel, so not always will I just spew nonsense.

the frozen meat is all coming from the pretty much the same place in argentina. it's the fresh meat that they do shechita on here, that you pay an arm and a leg for, and it's a very limited amount. the brunt of what's relevant are the chickens, which they shecht here as well, and charge a heck of a lot for.

as much as you might know about kashrus, you'd be mistaken to think the eida does business with the rabbinut. no shot.

Drago · « **Reply #119 on:** February 13, 2013, 02:44:18 PM »

Quote from: yuneeq on February 13, 2013, 01:35:59 PM

Ouch!

Couldn't resist

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