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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2700 on: November 29, 2017, 11:57:24 AM »
what would one use to short the VIX - CBOE

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2701 on: November 29, 2017, 01:39:31 PM »
what would one use to short the VIX - CBOE
Shorting the VIX (which is kind of a derivative itself) is a strategy that should only be employed by real pros. My guess is that anyone asking here (and I'm not being condescending at all) shouldn't act on such a strategy. (been there, done that - not exactly, but dabbled with taking positions based on where I strongly thought VIX was going)
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2702 on: November 29, 2017, 01:59:12 PM »
Shorting the VIX (which is kind of a derivative itself) is a strategy that should only be employed by real pros. My guess is that anyone asking here (and I'm not being condescending at all) shouldn't act on such a strategy. (been there, done that - not exactly, but dabbled with taking positions based on where I strongly thought VIX was going)

I might agree with you. but I still would like an answer to the question.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2703 on: November 30, 2017, 05:17:20 AM »
I might agree with you. but I still would like an answer to the question.
To short the VIX buy put options or sell call options.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2704 on: November 30, 2017, 10:09:54 PM »
Here is a weekly chart of BTCUSD as of tonight 11-26-17  as Parabolic as it gets, all parabolic moves eventually reverse all the way

https://www.tradingview.com/x/WAkfYZKN/

Monthly chart below

https://www.tradingview.com/x/g1wy9w4H/
reached a high of $11400 and dropped to $9000 in same day on 11-29. Now today at $9800, look at the chart below, last 2 days look like a spinning top.

https://www.tradingview.com/x/PsHE1K8a/
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2705 on: November 30, 2017, 10:19:49 PM »
reached a high of $11400 and dropped to $9000 in same day on 11-29. Now today at $9800, look at the chart below, last 2 days look like a spinning top.

https://www.tradingview.com/x/PsHE1K8a/

Yesterday was a crazy day because all the US bitcoin exchanges were down. Gemini, Coinbase, Gdax.... not clear if it was coordinated DDOS attacks or if it was an honest to goodness spike in volume that knocked them all out (I believe DDOS) but anyone who had accounts on those exchanges was locked out and there was quite a bit of panic.

[My conspiracy theory is that its all too convenient that this happened on the day that bitflex launched. After Mt. Gox I am automatically suspicious of Japanese digital exchanges]
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2706 on: December 01, 2017, 08:23:01 AM »

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2707 on: December 04, 2017, 02:09:08 PM »
Is everyone here planing to short BTC?

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2708 on: December 04, 2017, 02:23:09 PM »
Is everyone here planing to short BTC?
The market can remain irrational longer than I can remain solvent.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2709 on: December 04, 2017, 02:26:35 PM »
Is everyone here planing to short BTC?
There are easier ways to lose money.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2710 on: December 04, 2017, 03:19:39 PM »
Is everyone here planing to short BTC?
dont think it peaked yet, but i think it will take a nice dip before it climbs higher

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2711 on: December 04, 2017, 03:33:43 PM »
The market can remain irrational longer than I can remain solvent.

Liked. A colleague of mine keeps repeating this mantra as well, both in reference to BTC and to the stock market. TBH, we really don't have any sense for what level is overvalued for BTC while we do have a sense that the stock market is overvalued (based on P/E ratios and other common metrics), so I would much sooner short the stock market than BTC, but even then I come back to your mantra
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2712 on: December 04, 2017, 03:38:16 PM »
Liked. A colleague of mine keeps repeating this mantra as well, both in reference to BTC and to the stock market. TBH, we really don't have any sense for what level is overvalued for BTC while we do have a sense that the stock market is overvalued (based on P/E ratios and other common metrics), so I would much sooner short the stock market than BTC, but even then I come back to your mantra
It is not my mantra.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2713 on: December 04, 2017, 03:39:45 PM »
I'm an optimist; but only because life isn't going to give me any other good choices.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2714 on: December 05, 2017, 12:53:04 AM »
money doesn't talk......      it SCREAMS !