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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2580 on: September 18, 2017, 05:41:15 PM »
A robo adviser does not guarantee performance. It simply helps you to allocate money to various passively managed funds. The comparison to CDs is unwarranted. Need to be careful when dishing out financial advice.
Who asked for a guarantee on performance? That's not what I understood the op to be inquiring about.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2581 on: September 18, 2017, 05:41:58 PM »
Who asked for a guarantee on performance? That's not what I understood the op to be inquiring about.
What he said.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2582 on: September 18, 2017, 06:25:59 PM »
What he said.

OK got it. I was just surprised that one person suggests CD and the next quoted that and suggested robo. Now I'll offer another option, namely to just put the few hundred dollars into an index based etf. If its such small money and an indefinite horizon then I dont know how much value you will get by paying someone (even a robo) to advise allocations.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2583 on: September 18, 2017, 10:45:16 PM »
OK got it. I was just surprised that one person suggests CD and the next quoted that and suggested robo. Now I'll offer another option, namely to just put the few hundred dollars into an index based etf. If its such small money and an indefinite horizon then I dont know how much value you will get by paying someone (even a robo) to advise allocations.
Indexes.  SPDR, for example.  It grows as the market does.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2584 on: September 18, 2017, 10:48:10 PM »


To short a stock means to borrow shares to sell in anticipation of them going down in price.  Then the short seller can buy shares at the lower price to repay the shares he borrowed.
Be aware that the risk with shorting is unlimited.
If you buy a stock, the most you can lose is the amount you paid for the stock, even if it goes down to zero.
If you sell a stock that you borrowed, you have to buy it at market prices to repay it, even if the stock price skyrockets.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2585 on: September 18, 2017, 11:32:37 PM »
Be aware that the risk with shorting is unlimited.
If you buy a stock, the most you can lose is the amount you paid for the stock, even if it goes down to zero.
If you sell a stock that you borrowed, you have to buy it at market prices to repay it, even if the stock price skyrockets.
It'll have to skyrocket over 100% in a split second for it to be riskier than traditional buying, which isn't really a risk, as that rarely happens.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2586 on: September 18, 2017, 11:47:24 PM »
It'll have to skyrocket over 100% in a split second for it to be riskier than traditional buying, which isn't really a risk, as that rarely happens.
That makes no sense. It rarely drops to zero in a second either.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2587 on: September 19, 2017, 12:13:11 AM »
That makes no sense. It rarely drops to zero in a second either.
Does my post make no sense or does ckmk47's post make no sense, a bit confused, and if you refer to my post, please explain your point

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2588 on: September 19, 2017, 12:40:21 AM »
If i knew more about stocks, I would buy this...

https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/18/short-seller-andrew-left-calls-ubiquiti-his-next-big-fraud.html

http://www.citronresearch.com/citron-exposes-ubiquiti-networks/


Great company, great products.

The sales numbers dont add up, because they do sales and everything else differently, and their pricing model is disruptive like no other.


Reading through more articles though, seems like there are some serious red flags, that are definitely not explained, ill watch from the sidelines lol. 
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2589 on: September 19, 2017, 07:43:26 AM »
It'll have to skyrocket over 100% in a split second for it to be riskier than traditional buying, which isn't really a risk, as that rarely happens.
A lot of biotech stocks  spike over 100% in AH trading with good news. Happens very often.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2590 on: September 19, 2017, 08:02:15 AM »
A lot of biotech stocks  spike over 100% in AH trading with good news. Happens very often.
Startup biotechs. As well as non biotech penny stocks.  @Ephraimh is correct regarding more stable companies i.e. GE, MSFT. Equifax, IMHO is more analogous to those than to startup biotechs.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2591 on: September 19, 2017, 08:44:07 AM »
Startup biotechs. As well as non biotech penny stocks.  @Ephraimh is correct regarding more stable companies i.e. GE, MSFT. Equifax, IMHO is more analogous to those than to startup biotechs.
In general, when you're shorting a stock, it's a relatively volatile stock that you're expecting a significant move on. You rarely short a stock as a long term position. The kind of stocks that are generally shorted by "players" are the ones that can burn you badly if you're not careful, not disciplined, or don't have a plan of action prior to shorting. Things can move much faster than expected if you don't have stops in place.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2592 on: September 25, 2017, 06:53:35 PM »
I'm looking to start buying call options (actually already bought ALK 70 calls for January).
What tools can I use to help calculate my return?

For example- I want to quickly calculate what my profit will be if I buy $3 options at $75 vs $6 options at $70, and the stock rises to $85?

Is someone is bullish, is it better to buy the call options that are above or below the current stock price? Does it just depend on how bullish the investor is?

Any general advice or guides for basic call option buying strategies?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2593 on: September 25, 2017, 09:01:43 PM »
I'm looking to start buying call options (actually already bought ALK 70 calls for January).
What tools can I use to help calculate my return?

For example- I want to quickly calculate what my profit will be if I buy $3 options at $75 vs $6 options at $70, and the stock rises to $85?

Is someone is bullish, is it better to buy the call options that are above or below the current stock price? Does it just depend on how bullish the investor is?

Any general advice or guides for basic call option buying strategies?
You have a good trade here with ALK, it is a buy here ,if it takes 78 next target is 83, ill use 70.70 as a stop, ill buy the $75 options.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2594 on: September 25, 2017, 09:05:47 PM »
I trade currencies via Forex, not ETF's, I have been short the USD/NOK and USD/CAD for a few months, nice profits,the GBP/USD has more to go on the upside, there is resistance at around 1.33-1.34, if it takes this resistance then next target is 1.385.
GBP/USD overtook the 1.33-1.34 resistance , reached 1.3650, now 1.35, going to 1.38.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2595 on: September 25, 2017, 09:07:31 PM »
Watch 90 support, if it holds just place a stop below, if it breaks 90 on the downside can go all the way to 55.
90 support held, EFX up $15 in 10 days .
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2596 on: September 25, 2017, 11:19:05 PM »
You have a good trade here with ALK, it is a buy here ,if it takes 78 next target is 83, ill use 70.70 as a stop, ill buy the $75 options.

I appreciate the advice, but I don't know what you mean by a "stop".
Any recommendations on how to learn the basics?
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2597 on: September 25, 2017, 11:27:24 PM »
I'm looking to start buying call options (actually already bought ALK 70 calls for January).
What tools can I use to help calculate my return?

For example- I want to quickly calculate what my profit will be if I buy $3 options at $75 vs $6 options at $70, and the stock rises to $85?

Is someone is bullish, is it better to buy the call options that are above or below the current stock price? Does it just depend on how bullish the investor is?

Any general advice or guides for basic call option buying strategies?
Answer to your question : OptionsHouse (by eTrade) has a great analysis of potential P&L.

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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2598 on: September 26, 2017, 12:48:50 AM »
I appreciate the advice, but I don't know what you mean by a "stop".
Any recommendations on how to learn the basics?
By stop I meant stop loss, I do not trade options much, I trade stocks, forex and futures,ALK is currently oversold after a sell off and at the point of rallying, at least in the short term, there is support at 70-71 ,if the price goes under this support it can go much lower, ill get out of the position in case this happens to limit the loss.
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Re: Stocks
« Reply #2599 on: September 26, 2017, 06:51:01 AM »
I'm looking to start buying call options (actually already bought ALK 70 calls for January).
What tools can I use to help calculate my return?

For example- I want to quickly calculate what my profit will be if I buy $3 options at $75 vs $6 options at $70, and the stock rises to $85?

Is someone is bullish, is it better to buy the call options that are above or below the current stock price? Does it just depend on how bullish the investor is?

Any general advice or guides for basic call option buying strategies?

Profit at expiration is as follows:

With the stock at $85 -  the $75 Call is worth $10 a share. Subtract $3, your cost and you profited $7 x 100 ( a contract is for 100 shares) = $700 - commisions.

                                      the $70 Call is worth $15 a share. Subtract $6, your profit is is $900 per contract - commisions.

Your breakeven point for the $75 Call is $78 (not taking commisions in to account.) You will begin losing money below $78 with a max loss(stock at or below $70) of $300 per contract + commisions.

Your breakeven point for the $70 Call is $76. Max loss (stock at $70 or bellow) is $600 + commisions.


Generally speaking, you'd need to be more bullish to by a call above the current stock price as it currently has no intrinsic value, know as OTM - Out of the Money. If the stock does not advance to your strike price, you loose all of your investment.  If you buy an ITM call (In the Money) the stock needs to fall for you to lose your entire investment.