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Author Topic: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread  (Read 26243 times)

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #15 on: May 08, 2010, 06:34:11 PM »
i am the scared type but i would think that in 2 months it would be straightened out

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #16 on: May 09, 2010, 12:43:27 AM »
I was by s/o at home and the TV was on.

All good stories begin that way ;)

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #17 on: May 09, 2010, 01:33:04 AM »
Sounds good, although the only time I turn one on is when I'm on holiday. There is so much nonsense and ads on it that I thank the Lord for not having one.

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #18 on: May 09, 2010, 07:38:18 AM »
whats the story with antisemitism there? we usually wear a cap and dont get called out as jews on our trips but got a little concerned after reading this, http://www.theyeshivaworld.com/news/General+News/57158/Brutal-Murder-of-Yeshiva-Bachur-in-Kiev-[UPDATED-109PM-IL].html. can i safely assume that it was an isolated incident?

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #19 on: May 09, 2010, 07:44:13 AM »
There are definitely people with anti-semitic inclinations... I have been to all places you mentioned with full garb and aside from lots of stares haven't experienced any problems... and I've been there for extensive periods of time....

Moscow and Petersburg are less of a problem in my opinion as there are very "western" and are use to seeing many tourists... I have friends living in all these places without problem.

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #20 on: May 09, 2010, 07:58:12 AM »
Despite what people think, the biggest anti semites, aren't germans, but poles, ukranians, slovaks,croats.
They are the worst!
Kiev is in the ukraine....

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #21 on: May 09, 2010, 09:06:03 AM »
the truth is i dont plan on staying in kiev too long, rather uman, berditchev and mezhibuzh

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #22 on: May 09, 2010, 09:11:25 AM »
Dont go alone...
Only with some experienced people.
Some 12 years ago, those #*@$ set ablaze the kever of the berditcheve....

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #23 on: May 09, 2010, 09:16:30 AM »
how about with my family and a recommended guide? as i dont know the facts of your story, i would assume it happened during the night hours. i only plan on visiting during the day

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #24 on: May 09, 2010, 09:23:55 AM »
My chavrusa showed me pics he toke in the ukaraine.
Day 1: kever of the berditcheve looks nice.
Day 3: kever completely destroyed, burned and graffiti on what's left of it...

A guide would be a good idea, and probably not expensive.

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #25 on: May 09, 2010, 09:50:22 AM »
be carefull in ukraine a lubavitcher guy was kidnapped & cut onto 10 pieces yesterday BD"E (more on vosizneias.com)

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Help
« Reply #26 on: June 08, 2010, 08:12:45 AM »
does anyone have the contact info for R' Yaakov Bleich in kiev? additionally. a reliable driver that can take us to berditchev mezhibuzh and uman?

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2010, 11:02:11 AM »
moish - I sent you a message with his email address

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2010, 11:09:35 AM »
moish - I sent you a message with his email address
thanks i actually emailed that address and received no response. are you familiar with ukraine to answer some itinerary questions?

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Re: Russia & Ukraine Master Thread
« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2010, 11:58:39 AM »
Been to Moscow, S. Petersburg, Rostov and Chelyabinsk a decade ago. S Petersburg is a must. You get to see what royalty looked like.

I wonder if you can still buy the hats off the Russian police for the right bribe? In my day every other guy did it.

TIP: Check the "How many airports been to thread" to see who's been there.