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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2700 on: September 03, 2017, 09:57:23 PM »
Yup, lots of changes in willowbrook. also kollel has kind of fallen off while chassidim have grown exponentially (and the eruv has gotten bigger so some more options esp if you are happy in a more chassidish crowd). no longer the bargain it once was, though lots of new pluses.
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are there several kosher meat and dairy restaurants nearby?
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2701 on: September 04, 2017, 02:32:04 AM »
are there several kosher meat and dairy restaurants nearby?
nope. in staten island there is a good pizza/ziti/basic sushi place, an israeli breakfast/ice cream place, Holy Schnitzel (original and best), dunkin donuts (under R Mehlman) and a shwarma/falafel place, plus a do it all place in the JCC. still no all in one kosher supermarket ala seasons, though that is coming, but there is a small and good makolet with most items (but no fresh takeout, which u need to order for delivery before shabbos from brooklyn).
of course boro park and places like bison and bourbon are 20 minutes away, and the city in the evening is about 35-40 minutes.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2703 on: September 06, 2017, 10:00:56 AM »
https://cross-currents.com/2017/09/04/houston-relief-sidebar-community/

I always loved Rabbi Adlerstein's shiurim, from when I lived in LA and it's ironic that he so beautifully describes why I left LA and moved to a smaller community...

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2704 on: September 06, 2017, 10:19:53 AM »
I always loved Rabbi Adlerstein's shiurim, from when I lived in LA and it's ironic that he so beautifully describes why I left LA and moved to a smaller community...
While I agree with him about the benefits of a smaller community, I disagree on his main point-that only a small community like Dallas could come together to provide the food that they did (and probably still are). I'm on a mobile so I won't get into to many details but I was in the 5towns during Sandy and the things that went on there was unmatched. Maybe it didn't get as much fanfare and PR because it was local (although there were definitely people from Baltimore, passiac, etc helping) but there were shuls that became virtual food banks, giving out meals to hundreds, if not thousands, organizations and private people contacting companies to donate (a friend of mine had a massive garage  full of clothing, baby supplies, toys, that a few people solicited from manufacturers and people were able to come and take whatever they needed) and many other 'acts of kindness' like helping with demo, driving people to work, and so on.
Point number 2 is-did you see what Seasons did? I don't know all of the details but from the pictures I've seen, they collected from several tristate communities (plus Baltimore) truckloads of donated supplies for houston.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2705 on: September 06, 2017, 11:50:02 AM »
While I agree with him about the benefits of a smaller community, I disagree on his main point-that only a small community like Dallas could come together to provide the food that they did (and probably still are). I'm on a mobile so I won't get into to many details but I was in the 5towns during Sandy and the things that went on there was unmatched. Maybe it didn't get as much fanfare and PR because it was local (although there were definitely people from Baltimore, passiac, etc helping) but there were shuls that became virtual food banks, giving out meals to hundreds, if not thousands, organizations and private people contacting companies to donate (a friend of mine had a massive garage  full of clothing, baby supplies, toys, that a few people solicited from manufacturers and people were able to come and take whatever they needed) and many other 'acts of kindness' like helping with demo, driving people to work, and so on.
Point number 2 is-did you see what Seasons did? I don't know all of the details but from the pictures I've seen, they collected from several tristate communities (plus Baltimore) truckloads of donated supplies for houston.
+1. The whole article makes no sense, because it's all based around
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Other communities could not do the job, I believe.
which is demonstrably false.

OOT communities have many strengths, including some of the things he mentioned. But to say that they're more effective in chesed, and specifically in crisis relief situations like this is laughable.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2706 on: September 06, 2017, 06:41:23 PM »
+1. The whole article makes no sense, because it's all based aroundwhich is demonstrably false.

OOT communities have many strengths, including some of the things he mentioned. But to say that they're more effective in chesed, and specifically in crisis relief situations like this is laughable.

I agree that other, larger communities rally together but the day in day out living OOT IS more of a community feel. Like what he talked about with the Shabbos invites and being able to be on boards of institutions even if you aren't rich. That stuff is totally true.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2707 on: September 06, 2017, 07:09:34 PM »
I agree that other, larger communities rally together but the day in day living OOT IS more of a community feel. Like what he talked about with the Shabbos invites and being able to be on boards of institutions even if you aren't rich. That stuff is totally true.
Great. I agree. But the whole point of the article was about Dallas stepping up for Houston, allegedly in contrast to larger communities. That's nonsense.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2710 on: September 09, 2017, 10:47:02 PM »
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2017/09/cleveland_ranks_2nd_in_list_of.html
Meh, take away to flood risk to seagate/coney island etc and I doubt CLE is any better than Brooklyn.

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2711 on: September 09, 2017, 10:55:59 PM »
Meh, take away to flood risk to seagate/coney island etc and I doubt CLE is any better than Brooklyn.
No hurricanes make it here.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #2712 on: September 09, 2017, 11:31:55 PM »
No hurricanes make it here.
They don't make it to Brooklyn either :P

Yes, there'll be an anomaly like Sandy, but even that had virtually no impact in Brooklyn outside of the areas right on the coast e.g. Seagate

I don't really understand the data they're using for this exactly, although I'm sure CLE scores a little higher on paper, I highly doubt there's much of a noticeable real-life difference.

Also, it seems like the tornado risk in CLE is slightly higher than the hurricane risk to Brooklyn.


ETA: my point is this list is kinda silly. Once you're talking about places that aren't in a real danger zone the differences are going to be inconsequential and the rankings don't mean much.