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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #45 on: November 06, 2012, 01:47:40 PM »
Do you live your life for what other people say??

+1 I tell that to ppl all the time! Do what you want not what other people want you to do or will think of you for doing something.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #46 on: November 06, 2012, 01:47:50 PM »
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #47 on: November 06, 2012, 01:49:53 PM »
But everyone lives here...

Do you also believe that Jews could never do anything wrong? or a stop sign is optional?
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #48 on: November 06, 2012, 02:35:32 PM »
As a native Clevelander who moved back, I feel the ONLY "con" is that it's hard to find a job if you are not some sort of professional (or are going to join one of the 4+ kollelim ;)).  While I am not discontinuing the entrepreneur spirit of my fellow C-Towners, we are just not as big as other cities. In NY you can open a business renting folding chairs for simchas and make some sort of living! That being said I would not live anywhere else! 

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #49 on: November 06, 2012, 02:57:29 PM »
@Dan u forgot to mention Subway!

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #50 on: November 06, 2012, 03:20:02 PM »
@Dan u forgot to mention Subway!
Pro or con :P
I kid, I kid.

Also didn't mention Unger's donuts or chocolate emporium :)
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #51 on: November 06, 2012, 03:22:58 PM »
Pro or con :P
I kid, I kid.

Also didn't mention Unger's donuts or chocolate emporium :)
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #52 on: November 06, 2012, 03:29:39 PM »
Ungers doughnuts mmmm...i remember my days in telshe, now lets not forget shimons wings, or glorias pizza  :D :D

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #53 on: November 06, 2012, 03:34:17 PM »
It's kind of hard to do something comprehensive for Israel as there are many areas and in a sense they are very much intertwined, some of them at least. I'm sure others will chime in...
 
This is general not specific to any area in particular.

Pro's:

Healthcare- 120 nis per month to Bituach Luemi - national insurance...plus optional add ons for higher insurance coverage. one common add on is 'adif' on the muechedet carrier which costs and extra 80nis or so for a couple

Transportation:
Nice bus system in jerusalem, train system is pretty good to depending on where you travel, price is relatively inexpensive as well

Food Shopping:
its nice having a local makolet around the corner to run out to when in need of something especially when they are open until/past midnight

Environment:
depends on where you live, but its nice to have the streets close down on shabbos and the sirens and music etc

Culture:

once you get the hang of it, its nice to live in a country where you can always work around a solution to a problem with some connection or back and forth.

slightly OT but the other day i had a meeting on some moshav where they had this large tract of land that looked like a farm and it had a building/office of a major construction company and a tropical fish factory next to it - totally random considering they shared the office.

he dismissed and related jokingly - but said the truth is - the land was given to the moshav way back when for farming purposes only...so yes, they maintain a small fish operation as a hobby, and get away running a construction company off the land.

Cons:

Shopping:
the malls can leave much to be desired and are overpriced and can be packed beyond belief

Travel: unless you travel to the eu, travel can be tiring and expensive unless of course you frequent ddf

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #54 on: November 06, 2012, 03:50:50 PM »
...and free dental until 18
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #56 on: November 06, 2012, 03:55:06 PM »
...and free dental until 18

very true...plus cheap rx meds

Taxes?

 are a major killer :( as much as 50%

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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #57 on: November 06, 2012, 03:56:40 PM »
are a major killer :( as much as 50%
Lol, then this business of free/cheap health and dental insurance is nothing but taking it out your pocket to put it back in again.
I'll stick with my private insurance.
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #58 on: November 06, 2012, 04:00:34 PM »
Lol, then this business of free/cheap health and dental insurance is nothing but taking it out your pocket to put it back in again.
I'll stick with my private insurance.

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I'm thinking of Obama care though...
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Re: The Pros And Cons Of Where You Live
« Reply #59 on: November 06, 2012, 04:19:14 PM »
Lol, then this business of free/cheap health and dental insurance is nothing but taking it out your pocket to put it back in again.
I'll stick with my private insurance.

*IF* you are paying 50%, yes. but vast majority dont pat that much or even pay much if anything...kollel, income levels etc; there are other new benefits that have been passed through after recent protests such as free pre-k and tax credits for those with children under certain ages...

in reality this has helped the middle class....immigrants can also benefit from tax free status on foreign income for up to 10 years IIRC and there are ways to structure taxes i imagine...

tuition is also very inexpensive....