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In general, search on AA.com for award availability.

BA
If you want to book a flight with Avios, it is known from Dan's Knowledgebase that BA.com doesn't show availability very well, but some flights definitely are searchable there. Nonetheless, it's easier to just search AA.com, and if you find a MileSAAver availability, check BA.com to see if it shows up there, too. If it does, book it there. If it doesn't, you can always call up BA and reference the flight you found. Note that there is usually a very long hold time before BA picks up, and they will charge a phone booking fee. If the flight was unsearchable on BA.com, try fighting that fee, but YMMV.

IB
IB availability will not show up on AA.com You can call AA to find IB availability, but it's hard without being able to browse dates and have to ask the rep to check flights over the phone. Searching on Qantas.com will show IB flights - supposedly if they appear there, they can then be booked by calling AA.

OneWorld Explorer [OWE] The OWE has officially been cancelled [4/8/14] as part of the latest AA no-warning changing to its award program. Here's what the OWE looked like:
This is an around-the-world [RTW] award that is calculated not by the mileage cost of specific flights, but rather by the actual distance travelled on your trip. It is especially valuable for flying business class, as the difference in miles needed between coach and business is not very great on longer trips. See this chart to see the different tiers of how many miles it costs to travel different distances. You can take up to 16 segments on a trip, but there are MANY rules to follow when booking such an award.

Be prepared to spend a lot of time when planning this trip. (Personally [@Yehuda], it took 2 months with a few weeks of break in the middle from frustration.) Availability changes everyday, so you need to constantly check back to see if flights you needed are now available. It will also likely require changing your itinerary/order of stops numerous times. An itinerary can be held for 5 days (and can be extended past that on Day 5, if they are willing to rebook each flight for you, getting you another 5 days), but itineraries with IB flights can usually only be held for 24 hours. You will find that you will have to use hub airports since you're limited to OW partners. You will not find a flight from CDG-FCO without either stopping off in LON or MAD - both of which are out of the way. It's unfortunate, as it adds unnecessary distance miles to your trip, but it can be done. Remember that BA flights have high YQ, IB/AB have semi-high YQ, US/AA have very little YQ. (Unsure about other airlines, as my trip was TLV-Europe-NYC, so those were the only airline I had to work with.) You should check flight availability, again, on AA.com but the ticket must be booked on the phone (and they will charge a $25 phone booking fee, but again, try to fight it since this ticket cannot be booked online - although, honestly, by the time you've ticketed, they will likely have helped you out with much more than $25 worth of time). Technically, you can book it with any OW partner, but the odds are you probably only have enough AA miles to book this trip. AA reps definitely know about this award, although most have never booked it before. You will find that after calling so many times, you'll know more about the rules than they do. Once you have your perfect itinerary, they will have to send it to their rate desk to price it out. This can take ~24 hours. Because it takes time, if you have IB flights on the itinerary, they will make sure IB allows the flights to be held for longer than 24 hours, but confirm this with the rep before you hang up. Once it's priced out, you can pay for it. You can use 2 or more AA accounts to pay for it, but they will require each account to have enough miles to pay for 1 ticket. (e.g. If it costs 80K pax and you have 2 pax, they won't ask you to have 1 account with 160K in it, but they will require 2 accounts with at least 80K in each.)

Feel free to contact @Yehuda with any questions regarding the OWE.

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One World Award Search Tips
« on: November 10, 2012, 10:12:53 PM »
Well, there's a master thread for star alliance search tips, here's the one for One World.
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2012, 10:14:14 PM »
Anyone wanna start skyteam? :)

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2012, 10:14:30 PM »
First question:

If I book CX J on, say, 5/15/13, can I change to F on a different day without a fee as long as it's > 21 days?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2012, 10:27:10 PM »
First question:

If I book CX J on, say, 5/15/13, can I change to F on a different day without a fee as long as it's > 21 days?

Found the answer on ft:

no charge for change of class of service regardless of how close. you can do it a couple of hours before take off if the space is there
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #5 on: November 10, 2012, 10:28:47 PM »
First question:

If I book CX J on, say, 5/15/13, can I change to F on a different day without a fee as long as it's > 21 days?
I'm assuming you mean using AA miles, correct?

AFAIK, officially no, but I have had reps say that if its an upgrade in cabin, yes.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2012, 10:41:43 PM »
I'm assuming you mean using AA miles, correct?

AFAIK, officially no, but I have had reps say that if its an upgrade in cabin, yes.

Yes, using AA miles.

Consensus on FT seems to be no fee, ever for the above scenario. I guess if you get a bad rep, just HUCA.
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2012, 10:52:52 PM »
But you asked about a "change to F on a different day". I thought change of class was permitted, but change of date/time was subject to fee if you're not Gold.

As long as O/D remain the same, there is no fee for change of date with AA, regardless of status.
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2012, 01:56:20 AM »
AA rep told me an upgrade in class would be permitted and without a fee, but downgrading the class would not be possible at all (i guess he meant w/o  a change fee)

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2012, 06:03:39 PM »
AA rep told me an upgrade in class would be permitted and without a fee, but downgrading the class would not be possible at all (i guess he meant w/o  a change fee)

Correct. Downgrade is possible by cancelling with miles redeposit and rebooking.

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2012, 10:47:29 PM »
As long as O/D remain the same, there is no fee for change of date with AA, regardless of status.

Just to clarify, routing can change as long as O/D remain the same?

Thus, I can go from a stopover in J to a non-stop in F without fee as long as O/D remain the same?
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #11 on: December 11, 2012, 10:53:53 PM »
Anyway to force to Qantas search engine to return only non-stop flights?
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #12 on: December 12, 2012, 08:41:32 PM »
Just to clarify, routing can change as long as O/D remain the same?

Thus, I can go from a stopover in J to a non-stop in F without fee as long as O/D remain the same?

Anyway to force to Qantas search engine to return only non-stop flights?

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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #13 on: December 16, 2012, 11:18:53 PM »
Just to clarify, routing can change as long as O/D remain the same?

Thus, I can go from a stopover in J to a non-stop in F without fee as long as O/D remain the same?
Anyway to force to Qantas search engine to return only non-stop flights?

Anyone?
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Re: One World Award Search Tips
« Reply #14 on: January 10, 2013, 10:33:13 AM »
Since this seems to be my thread anyway...

Any problem with routing USA-AUH-BKK/SIN on EY with AA miles?

And to confirm, it should be 67.5K OW, right?

http://www.aa.com/i18n/disclaimers/aadvantageAllPartnerChart.jsp#1

ETA: Ah, darn, don't I have to route via the Pacific if I'm going to Asia using AA miles?  >:(
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