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Do you beleive that there will ever be peace between Israel and the Palestenians

Yes
9 (8.7%)
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86 (83.5%)
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #140 on: December 05, 2012, 06:50:05 PM »
I can identify with you. I know it's very hard to accept it, it is indeed sad but unfortunately it's the truth and unfortunately not so shocking.
If you say it is the truth it must be since you have shown you are not biased.  ::) ::) ::)
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #141 on: December 05, 2012, 06:53:41 PM »
 
If you say it is the truth it must be since you have shown you are not biased.  ::) ::) ::)

 ::) oh right, here we go again:
So your saying it can't be the truth because i'm biased? And 2. I'm biased precisely because....? is it the unfortunate history of the vatican with the jews, that's making me biased ? or is it because generally speaking the world has a double standard when it comes to the jews and I realize that?
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #142 on: December 05, 2012, 06:54:54 PM »
1. Blocking off the arabs from?
2. True, but not half as big.
3. There are certain areas which ave a very large jewish population that are over the green line, which is defifntely not open for discussion, and yes evreyone involved in the "peace" making knows.
4. You can isolate them also by not talking to them, trying to topple them etc;
5. Was the christmas day (millionaire) bomber out of desepration? was all the sectarian suicide bombings in iraq out of desperation? was the suicide mission in mumbai out of desperation? was the suicide bombings in england out of desperation? etc; etc;

6. Dubai and Israel friends?! are you kidding?
Isn't Saudi Arabia also VERY properous?
1. East Jerusalem from the rest of the Palestinian settlement.
3. Proof?
4. Which foriegn country 'talks' to Hamas? How exactly would you try to topple them?

5. Prospering nations don't seek wars.
6. The UAE & Israel have tight intelligence cooperation. Its a well known fact
7. Yup. When was the last time they started a war with someone?
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #143 on: December 05, 2012, 06:56:03 PM »
Interesting article but I don't see any denial that it was indeed said.
Where is the quote that "baby killers" was used?
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #144 on: December 05, 2012, 07:01:19 PM »
is it the unfortunate history of the vatican with the jews, that's making me biased ?
They just never got over the Jews killing Jesus Christ the Son of GOD!  :P
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #145 on: December 05, 2012, 07:02:54 PM »
They just never got over the Jews killing Jesus Christ the Son of GOD!  :P

I'm just wondering, didn't the pope come out recently and confirm that the jews did not in fact kill him, rather it was the romans?
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #146 on: December 05, 2012, 07:05:01 PM »
Great! So now we slipped from politics to polemics ::)

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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #147 on: December 05, 2012, 07:06:27 PM »
Great! So now we slipped from politics to polemics ::)

Are you new to the forums?  ;)
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #148 on: December 05, 2012, 07:15:59 PM »
I'm just wondering, didn't the pope come out recently and confirm that the jews did not in fact kill him, rather it was the romans?
It is not that simple.

"In 'Jesus of Nazareth' excerpts released Wednesday, Benedict uses a biblical and theological analysis to explain why it is not true that the Jewish people as a whole were responsible for Jesus' death."
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #149 on: December 05, 2012, 07:19:08 PM »
It is not that simple.

"In 'Jesus of Nazareth' excerpts released Wednesday, Benedict uses a biblical and theological analysis to explain why it is not true that the Jewish people as a whole were responsible for Jesus' death."

I don't undersatand the whole thing. Didn't he have to die to atone for the sins?
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #150 on: December 05, 2012, 07:23:58 PM »
I don't undersatand the whole thing. Didn't he have to die to atone for the sins?
You asked: http://carm.org/christianity/christian-doctrine/why-did-jesus-have-die-our-sins
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #151 on: December 05, 2012, 07:27:01 PM »
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #152 on: December 05, 2012, 07:27:49 PM »
I believe that Palestine is an occupied land from the Mediterranean Sea to the Jordan River, and this is the right of the entire Palestinian people, this land.
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #153 on: December 05, 2012, 07:31:00 PM »
Interesting. I have many questions but maybe i'll leave that for a separate thread.
I think I will stay out of that one.  :)
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #154 on: December 05, 2012, 07:39:25 PM »
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #155 on: December 05, 2012, 07:42:48 PM »


Is Economic prosperity enough for peace?
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #156 on: December 05, 2012, 07:53:55 PM »
Is Economic prosperity enough for peace?
It changes the way most people think.
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #157 on: December 05, 2012, 07:57:13 PM »
It changes the way most people think.

Wishful thinking.
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #158 on: December 05, 2012, 10:29:22 PM »
Is Economic prosperity enough for peace?
It's enough to stop war. Prosperity always negates radicalism. Jews are no exception
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Re: The Palestinian question
« Reply #159 on: December 06, 2012, 03:56:29 AM »
5. Prospering nations don't seek wars.

Possibly. But he was referring to Islamic fundamentalism as a whole. The 7/7 suicide bombers in London, for example, were your average born-and-bred (Muslim) Brits who knew nothing of the poverty and desperation you describe.