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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #15 on: May 27, 2010, 07:31:53 PM »
Will AA let me go from TLV-MEL via LHR? This is the only route that is being shown as available on Qantas.com. I know ElAl definitely flies MEL-HKG-TEL which would be the optimum but I can't find availability for the life of me, at least on Qantas.com.
Call AA and ask!
El Al is not part of one OneWorld and therefore won't show up on Qantas.
You can check El Al availability on Expertflyer.com or by calling up AA.
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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2010, 07:46:57 PM »
Call AA and ask!
El Al is not part of one OneWorld and therefore won't show up on Qantas.
You can check El Al availability on Expertflyer.com or by calling up AA.
To clarify, El Al is not part of the Oneworld alliance but you can redeem AA miles with them.

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2010, 07:55:50 PM »
To clarify, El Al is not part of the Oneworld alliance but you can redeem AA miles with them.
Yes.
Most airlines have an alliance they belong to as well as non-alliance airlines.
For example Continental is partners with airlines like Copa, Emirates, EVA, Hawaiian, Island Air, Virgin Atlantic, etc. in addition to the 27 *A members.
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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #18 on: May 27, 2010, 09:09:50 PM »
Some airlines restrict routing.  For example AA and United won't let you fly to Australia via Asia while Continental will.
USAirways' agents often don't enforce rules at all...
This is the info I've gathered from a couple of calls,
AA will only allow routing through Asia on a Middle East-South Pacific award flight.
US will allow whatever you want.

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2010, 03:43:00 AM »
You can fly from TLV via LHR to MEL/SYD.

I told you in the beginning of the post to trust me, why do you keep on going in circles and don't just pick up the phone.

About elal, I believe they are what I call a semi partner, so you can use AA to book elal, however it won't be a standard by them.
But, say AA 6006, operated by etihad going from AUH-JFK cannot be booked with AA miles, as they are only codeshare (even less then semi partner).

Aa with elal, is about the same connection as CO with Virgin.

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2010, 03:51:28 AM »
You can fly from TLV via LHR to MEL/SYD.

I told you in the beginning of the post to trust me, why do you keep on going in circles and don't just pick up the phone.

About elal, I believe they are what I call a semi partner, so you can use AA to book elal, however it won't be a standard by them.
But, say AA 6006, operated by etihad going from AUH-JFK cannot be booked with AA miles, as they are only codeshare (even less then semi partner).

Aa with elal, is about the same connection as CO with Virgin.
When I called AA I was told that I can't go through LHR because routing is not allowed through Europe. I informed the rep that i can book it on Qantas.com. She just said that different airlines have different routing rules. Is this true or should I just call back?
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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2010, 04:40:19 AM »
When I called AA I was told that I can't go through LHR because routing is not allowed through Europe. I informed the rep that i can book it on Qantas.com. She just said that different airlines have different routing rules. Is this true or should I just call back?

It is true. Middle East to South Pacific is only allowed via Asia when booking with AA Miles

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2010, 05:59:25 AM »
It is true. Middle East to South Pacific is only allowed via Asia when booking with AA Miles

when did that change, some guys told me that they did it.

what routing do you follow then?

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2010, 06:13:10 AM »
when did that change, some guys told me that they did it.

what routing do you follow then?
TLV-HKG on El Al and then HKG-MEL on Qantas or Cathy Pacific.
Shame that AA has this routing rule because the availability for premium class on El Al is terrible.

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2010, 09:10:43 AM »
TLV-HKG on El Al and then HKG-MEL on Qantas or Cathy Pacific.
Shame that AA has this routing rule because the availability for premium class on El Al is terrible.

You can do TLV-BKK-MEL/SYD as well. Availability is pretty good on El Al for TLV-BKK in Business. Another possibility would be Royal Jordanian to BKK or HKG

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2010, 09:26:31 AM »
You can do TLV-BKK-MEL/SYD as well. Availability is pretty good on El Al for TLV-BKK in Business. Another possibility would be Royal Jordanian to BKK or HKG
Does El Al not release F tickets or do they just sell out straight away? I've checked tons of dates both BKK-MEL and HKG-MEL and couldn't find a single seat.
Is flying Royal Jordanian safe?

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2010, 11:18:06 AM »
Does El Al not release F tickets or do they just sell out straight away? I've checked tons of dates both BKK-MEL and HKG-MEL and couldn't find a single seat.
Is flying Royal Jordanian safe?

El Al does not allow F bookings using partner miles. Only Y and J.

Ask "Moish". He enjoyed it a lot!

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2010, 11:38:04 AM »
wht wouldnt it be safe?

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2010, 01:23:19 PM »


Is flying Royal Jordanian safe?


 as safe as flying Turkish or any other Carrier, and youd find tons of Jewish Israelis on the flight with you as well, since its usually alot less then ElAls prices

 Ive done TK with layovers to/from TLV of apx 3 hrs never had any problem in the airport.And from some trip reports on here others who went into IST itself are still alive and well

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Re: Star Alliance Award Search Tips
« Reply #29 on: May 28, 2010, 01:23:56 PM »
Anyone ever fly Royal Jordanian? Experiences?