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AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« on: May 27, 2010, 06:20:42 PM »
AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !

I spoke with a top guy at AVIS (worked in several continents), who I'm good with, and he told me the following:

When you speak, email, or whatever with an Avis location (not online), or when you get a reservation from a travel agent with an all in price, the following does NOT apply, only on online rentals.

This person says that all the corporate codes, and different level cards, DON'T lower the actual final price you will pay, except, they lower the rental (per day) price to get you excited. However, the taxes, fees, and whatever is not included, and will vary according to the price you pay per day, so make all final prices equal.

Its for me also very hard to believe that, but he says that he cannot believe that 2 people renting the same car never meet and compared prices.

What I ask, is the following: don't start writing droshos here, just write below a price you paid renting a car, but don't copy paste everything, just the tachles please, so that the daily rental, fees, taxes, surcharges, etc, as well as age fee, and car type should be seen, as well as the location.


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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #1 on: May 27, 2010, 06:23:26 PM »
I ask once again, no droshos, I want to be able to get a clear overview. (spoken to the management of DD already about it)

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #2 on: May 27, 2010, 08:42:37 PM »
Only Avis or also other rental companies?
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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #3 on: May 27, 2010, 08:46:12 PM »
He's BS'ing you.
Save your time, I don't answer PM. Post it in the forum and a dedicated DDF'er will get back to you as soon as possible.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2010, 08:59:56 PM »
it seems pretty ridiculous

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 09:37:26 PM »
 No way, No how

SF you got to lay off the stuff your drinking or at least dont post to DD after you have drunk it

 simply plug in any few codes (get em from FT) that will have a different daily rate and you will see the final amounts are NOT the same

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 09:42:00 PM »
You gotta be kidding u obviously never used TUWA0012 (long gone) it used to cost 6 bucks a day for a full size.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 10:55:39 PM »
I have seen plenty of rentals done in florida, lax and other locations in NJ, all around Purim time & they were booked at differant times (due to diff. yeshivas) & all the prices were totaly differant. I'm not sure what ur talking about!!!
the fees as far as my experiance were all the same, & went down if u rent longer.... it was the base price that was differant & the fees the same!!!!

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2010, 01:28:59 AM »
Thanks for all the compliments.

I write again: I said that it is very hard for me to believe it, however, this well placed guy started getting all annoyed when I kept on saying, thousands of pages have covered that on forums, as well as people agreeing on some Codes, that they are indeed cheaper then the other.
So to clarify: prices via a travel agent, hotwire, expedia, priceline, etc, and by calling a specific rental location, don't count.
A coupon doesn't count either.

I also asked not to write comments, but rather prices that were paid. To make it easier let's only take from the last year or so, and I would like to challenge the guy, with a proof that he's incorrect.

I went on making a a sample booking for 7 days from an airport twice, one with a corporate + preffered elite level, and one without codes or preferred.
I got some $45 buck difference on the total.
I gave hime the reservation numbers, and he told me that the a different rate codes apply to each, ie codes such as 9D, 5Wn and so on, which basically means charge less for the car, but as the result of the reservation doesn't include all taxes and/or fees, they will be made equal at the time of rental.(Not on the cent, but very close).

The final cars that you get via upgrades isn't relevant, just tachles the one you ordered.

It sounds as crazy to me as to you, and the guy basically hung up on me after I kept questioning him. He said if you don't want to believe, don't.

As I wrote in the topic "probably", just cool down guys, and I wrote no droshos, as I saw that coming, please just post your prices for rentals made via the rental companies (themselves, no third party), or remain silent forever.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2010, 01:31:57 AM »
Crazy tools, please give me some numbers (that you are reading of reservations), if it makes sense, I have something in the hand.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2010, 01:34:43 AM »
As you were talking about yeshivas, if there are underage fees, we just ignore them.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2010, 01:50:03 AM »
i'll try to get them tommorow (or in the morn) most of the rentals I did were without underage fees, I use a corp that doesn't have any!!

some were done with 3rd day free, should I include those (i think all of them had some sort of coupon) u wrote no coupons does that mean I shouldn't include them at all or I should just write the total with amont of days?

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2010, 02:11:24 AM »
Whose AWD was TUWA0012 ?

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 02:44:22 AM »
Whose AWD was TUWA0012 ?

It's a coupon, like the good ole' TUPA005 free day certs you used to be able to buy on ebay for a couple bucks...
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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 03:35:42 AM »
Yes, no coupons, as a coupon is basically a promo.
If your rental includes, say, a free day, give all the details, as we can probably work out what you would have paid w/o it.
But please don't off topic with the coupons.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2010, 03:48:53 AM »
super i think its simple. i almost always get the price they show me as a total price on avis.com after taxes and fees. so if that price is cheaper with a corp account, does it prove anything?

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #16 on: May 28, 2010, 04:43:35 AM »
Those were the good times dan, I used too have a lady that accepted them and let me get any car and do a one way rental with those coupons.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2010, 05:55:57 AM »
super i think its simple. i almost always get the price they show me as a total price on avis.com after taxes and fees. so if that price is cheaper with a corp account, does it prove anything?

please dig out some rentals, any country, and we shall see if someone rented @ the same time something similar to compare.

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2010, 06:53:47 AM »
i dont think its possible to compare as every day and location has a different price. the odds that two people had a res on the same day, location and duration is slim to none

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Re: AVIS & others, probably huge scam revealed ! ! !
« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2010, 07:05:35 AM »
Crazy said before, that loads of guys rented purim. So I believe during high seasons it should be possible.

For instance a 9 or 13 day rental in aug say in TLV which are both mazda 3, even if the day isn't exactly the same, are comparable.