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Do You Own A Gun

Of Course
31 (19.9%)
No
57 (36.5%)
I plan on getting one eventually
67 (42.9%)
I used to
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #620 on: October 02, 2017, 04:06:32 PM »
And if they do? Regardless whether or not you believe people should have guns, the criminals will always have them.
Banning high capacity magazines is a no brainer that will help. The NRA won't give in to that because they believe the end result will no guns at all.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #621 on: October 02, 2017, 04:08:34 PM »
In most cases (obviously not this one) if the public had more access to carry, the shooter won't do as much harm, as he'll be taken out by a law abiding citizen.
I use to think that way until I saw the typical individual that carries now.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #622 on: October 02, 2017, 04:11:46 PM »
Banning high capacity magazines is a no brainer that will help. The NRA won't give in to that because they believe the end result will no guns at all.
Why are you so sure that would help? Mags can be tweaked too...
I use to think that way until I saw the typical individual that carries now.
I have to agree with this as well, but id rather have a stupid guy with a gun, than an evil guy with a gun.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #623 on: October 02, 2017, 04:12:52 PM »
Banning high capacity magazines is a no brainer
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The NRA won't give in to that because they believe the end result will no guns at all.
They're probably right. Do any of the anti-gun people see banning high capacity as an end result, not just a step towards the goal of banning guns altogether?

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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #624 on: October 02, 2017, 04:15:53 PM »
Why are you so sure that would help? Mags can be tweaked too...
You would have to manufacture the mag yourself, no? When I say ban HCM that means if you own any they must be turned in or destroyed.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #625 on: October 02, 2017, 04:16:37 PM »
They're probably right. Do any of the anti-gun people see banning high capacity as an end result, not just a step towards the goal of banning guns altogether?
A minority want all guns banned.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #626 on: October 02, 2017, 04:18:15 PM »
You would have to manufacture the mag yourself, no? When I say ban HCM that means if you own any they must be turned in or destroyed.
Firstly, anyone with ill intentions, will definitely not be turning them in, or destroying them. In the many months/years leading up to the in statement of a bill of that nature, there would be hoarding of all HCM as there has been with other things IINM
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #627 on: October 02, 2017, 04:19:07 PM »
The dudes dad was on the FBI most wanted list. My guess is, he had some background.
As of when I last looked at the news they were saying he has nothing.

(for anybody reading this thread in a few years and wondering WTH we're talking about: Last night was the Vegas massacre)

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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #628 on: October 02, 2017, 04:19:35 PM »
Firstly, anyone with ill intentions, will definitely not be turning them in, or destroying them. In the many months/years leading up to the in statement of a bill of that nature, there would be hoarding of all HCM as there has been with other things IINM
You are giving the criminals way to much credit.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #629 on: October 02, 2017, 04:20:00 PM »
As of when I last looked at the news they were saying he has nothing.

(for anybody reading this thread in a few years and wondering WTH we're talking about: Last night was the Vegas massacre)
That's possible, but highly unlikely. I don't know, so I can't talk facts.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #630 on: October 02, 2017, 04:20:44 PM »
A minority want all guns banned.
And there's probably an even smaller minority who want  to ban HCM and stop there.

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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #631 on: October 02, 2017, 04:22:24 PM »
(for anybody reading this thread in a few years and wondering WTH we're talking about: Last night was the Vegas massacre)
Are people in certain communities oblivious to what is going on? I was shocked to see no thread started on it. I sure don't want to believe they don't care.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #632 on: October 02, 2017, 04:22:34 PM »
You are giving the criminals way to much credit.
This was the largest shooting in US history IINM, and as far as the planning and strategy, you gotta hand it to the guy... They aren't all stupid, and I was (fearfully) waiting for someone to actually do it right to teach us a lesson. This guy knew his crap, and that's why he succeeded in his mission, we'll beyond what many had tried before.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #633 on: October 02, 2017, 04:29:44 PM »
Someone told me they'd rather a handgun anyway, because more rounds don't help. (Also an AR? I thought you only talk AK-47's)
Maybe you should go back and see what situation he was talking about.  ;)
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #634 on: October 02, 2017, 04:48:40 PM »
I sure don't want to believe they don't care.
Maybe they just didn't want to waste time arguing about guns when they should be working :P

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« Reply #635 on: October 02, 2017, 05:07:49 PM »
Maybe they just didn't want to waste time arguing about guns when they should be working :P
You could always just make one post and be done with it.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #636 on: October 02, 2017, 05:38:56 PM »
Where are they getting these gun experts? Homeless people off the street?
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #637 on: October 02, 2017, 05:41:15 PM »
I use to think that way until I saw the typical individual that carries now.

In Israel where gun carriers are very common, I can point to dozens of attacks that were prevented or minimized because a someone nearby was carrying a gun. A lot of US shootings would've been minimized if guns were more common or allowed (Virginia Tech, Orlando, etc). Last night was likely the exception.
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Re: Guns Master Thread
« Reply #638 on: October 02, 2017, 05:43:33 PM »
In Israel where gun carriers are very common, I can point to dozens of attacks that were prevented or minimized because a someone nearby was carrying a gun. A lot of US shootings would've been minimized if guns were more common or allowed (Virginia Tech, Orlando, etc). Last night was likely the exception.
His being on the 32nd floor would make it difficult for that to have been effective here.
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« Reply #639 on: October 02, 2017, 05:43:56 PM »
In Israel where gun carriers are very common, I can point to dozens of attacks that were prevented or minimized because a someone nearby was carrying a gun. A lot of US shootings would've been minimized if guns were more common or allowed (Virginia Tech, Orlando, etc). Last night was likely the exception.
You would also have a ton of road rage as one example then would end up in a shoot out.

What is the requirement/training in Israel to carry a weapon? Here there is basically zero!!!
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