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my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« on: December 24, 2012, 10:55:20 PM »
are my kids technically israeli, and is it worth shleping to the consulate to declare wife and kids as israeli and then pay to revoke citizenship to avoid possible draft red tape later in life?

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2012, 11:33:51 PM »
Where/when was your wife born?
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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 11:40:54 PM »
Wife was born and bred in usa. (Her mother moved to usa as young girl) The other day her sister visited misrad hapnim for a student visa as she is in sem and they asked her her moms maiden name... bottom line they told her that she's israeli and needs to make a TZ PP and dichuiy.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2012, 03:38:56 AM »
The trick is for your wife (if it is ever applicable) to give a bogus last name and birth date for her mother. They can't verify if she's lying or not anyway. Just make sure to keep a record of the lie you made up, in case you ever need that info in the future.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2012, 05:41:32 AM »
The trick is for your wife (if it is ever applicable) to give a bogus last name and birth date for her mother. They can't verify if she's lying or not anyway. Just make sure to keep a record of the lie you made up, in case you ever need that info in the future.
+1 This is the basics.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2012, 08:18:24 AM »
A friend of ours was on a radio show, he had this issue when he bought a student car here in Israel
If you need I can give u his contact info
it CAN be done!

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #6 on: December 25, 2012, 08:19:40 AM »
The trick is for your wife (if it is ever applicable) to give a bogus last name and birth date for her mother. They can't verify if she's lying or not anyway. Just make sure to keep a record of the lie you made up, in case you ever need that info in the future.
I don't think this works if your wife ever traveled to Israel with her parents CMIIW

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #7 on: December 25, 2012, 09:01:06 AM »
I don't think this works if your wife ever traveled to Israel with her parents CMIIW
She did once.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #8 on: December 25, 2012, 09:05:40 AM »
Another question: I myself made aliya at one stage in my life. I revoked my citizenship as soon as I turned 25. Thing is that the papers came back that the revocation took affect a few days (dated) after my first son was born. (I had submitted application months earlier) This means he is technically israeli, and showing that his dad revoked wont help him if he was born before?

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #9 on: December 25, 2012, 09:07:14 AM »
Another question: I myself made aliya at one stage in my life. I revoked my citizenship as soon as I turned 25. Thing is that the papers came back that the revocation took affect a few days (dated) after my first son was born. (I had submitted application months earlier) This means he is technically israeli, and showing that his dad revoked wont help him if he was born before?

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #10 on: December 25, 2012, 09:31:30 AM »
Another question: I myself made aliya at one stage in my life. I revoked my citizenship as soon as I turned 25. Thing is that the papers came back that the revocation took affect a few days (dated) after my first son was born. (I had submitted application months earlier) This means he is technically israeli, and showing that his dad revoked wont help him if he was born before?
my mother cancelled her citizenship when my brother and I were little. All we ever needed was the letter that SHE canceled (I don't think the letter mentioned us).

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2017, 10:07:30 AM »
Bumping an old thread, can anyone help me with the process of giving up Israeli citizenship

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2017, 10:21:12 AM »
For the record, a revoked citizen can have a big problem getting a student visa in Israel.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 01:51:35 PM »
If the kids are born in USA to a Israeli father or mother they are automatically citizens? Seems like they would need to do something to take make the citizenship take a effect.

 

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2017, 02:05:41 PM »
ok so while we are in this thread. i am an israeli citizen and will be entering on my israeli passport. my wife is not and will be entering on her american passport (same name). do i need to get my son an israeli passport or just have him enter on the american side with his american passport. potential ramification being a need to get a passport for him while on the trip.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #15 on: January 24, 2017, 02:08:01 PM »
Bumping an old thread, can anyone help me with the process of giving up Israeli citizenship

would be interested in this as well.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #16 on: January 24, 2017, 02:40:35 PM »
Never knew about this thread. It was cool to read just to see what @CBC was like before the man became a DDF legend.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #17 on: January 24, 2017, 03:06:08 PM »
Never knew about this thread. It was cool to read just to see what @CBC was like before the man became a DDF legend.
A little like this post.

Dan, b'chvodo u'b'atzmo!
So this is very important information. Who knew that if you are using Avios you should use AA's website and not BA's website?
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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #18 on: January 24, 2017, 03:08:21 PM »
A little like this post.

Someone once said, if you want to understand what a DDFer is really like, you have to look at his very first post. It's a lot of fun actually.

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Re: my wife's mother{SHVIGGER} is Israeli citizen, ramifications?
« Reply #19 on: January 24, 2017, 05:54:46 PM »
So has anyone been through the process of revoking citizenship ?