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Roundup Of Routes Where Kosher Meals Are Served By North American Airlines - http://www.dansdeals.com/archives/89484

Here's a google docs where people could input their inflight kashrus experience :
http://kshr.us/KosherMeals 


AA KSML availability:

-Most domestic routes where meals are served (in J or F)
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Belo Horizonte, Brasilia, Porto Alegre, Recife, Rio de Janeiro, Salvador, Sao Paulo, Brazil in all classes.
-Flights to Asuncion, Paraguay in all classes.
-Flights to Buenos Aires, Argentina in all classes.
-Flights to Santiago, Chile in all classes.
-Flights to Montevideo, Uruguay in all classes.

UA KSML availability:

-EWR-SFO in J
-EWR-LAX in J
-BOS-SFO in J
-Flights between the US mainland or Guam and Hawaii in J or F.
-Flights to Europe or Asia in all classes.
-Flights to Argentina, Brazil, Chile and Peru in all classes.

Please Include:
Airline:
Class:
Route:
Caterer:
Hechsher:
Flight date:
Meal in pics:
Stogel-Hermolis Scale Score (1-10):

Stogel-Hermolis Scale:
1. Inedible, wouldn't feed to a dog. (Stogel [long-life])
2. Disgusting, would only eat if starving
3. Barely edible, would only eat if very hungry
4. Below average, but would eat if hungry (Stogel [fresh-frozen])
5. Average/typical KSML, would eat if hungry (Borenstein?)
6. Above average KSML (Borenstein?)
7. A good KSML, might even eat if not hungry.
8. A very good KSML
9. An excellent KSML, could pass for something served in a decent restaurant.
10. Top of the line KSML, would be happy eating this at a decent restaurant. (Hermolis)


AirlineRouteClassMeal
BALHR-JFKJDinner
BALHR-PRGJBreakfast
CM           TGU-PTY          J              Lunch
CM           PTY-JK          J              Dinner
CO           EWR-TLV          BF              Dinner
COEWR-TLVBFBreakfast
COHNL-EWRBFDinner
COHNL-EWRBFBreakfast
COIAH-HNLBFLunch
COIAH-HNLBFSnack
LHFRA-VCEJSnack
LXORD-ZRHFDinner
LXZRH-TLVYDinner
SNBRU-VCEJBreakfast
SNTLV-BRUJDinner
SNTLV-BRUJBreakfast
TPJFK-LISYDin/Break
TPLIS-JFKYDinner



United Airlines
USA-Australia routes (economy): Koshair, O-U, Hamotzi, CS.
USA-Sydney  (First): Regal - meat and chicken meals.
Australia-USA routes (economy): Lewis Continental, K-A, Hamotzi, CY.
LH EWR-FRA Y Regal Chicken
LH MUC-EWR Y Sohar Hot meat meal and cold sandwich
LH FRA-VIE C Sohar Cold Meal (fish)
OS VIE TLV C VIE Local Co (hechser Rabbi Schwartz) Hot
US TLV PHL C Hamasbia
UA(CO) EWR-TLV Y Regal Beef meal (2010)
SA JNB-CPT-JNB Y Hot Meal from Joburg Beth Din
MN(BA) JNB-VFA Meal from Joburg Beth Din
SQ JFK-FRA Suites very poor Borenstein meal, labeled business class, chicken, no real dishes, very little food.
EK SYD-AKL  F    Lewis, no hot meal.
NZ AKL-LAX  Y    Gray's deli, fish meal.
TK CPT-IST  J/Y    Norries Caterers - CPT Beth Din - Milk Snack (Sandwich & Muffin CPT-JNB leg) Meat Dinner, Milk breakfast
« Last edited by zow on May 22, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1400 on: January 01, 2018, 11:42:13 AM »
The key is to remind the FA of the procedure.
Some don't know and will plate it in back without asking.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1401 on: January 01, 2018, 12:03:26 PM »
IME hermolis meals in BA F lounge LHR were heated sealed with the real plate.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1402 on: January 01, 2018, 12:17:48 PM »
The only time I ever had the FA screw up the KSML was on BA

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1403 on: January 01, 2018, 12:20:22 PM »
LH has done it to me.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1404 on: January 01, 2018, 01:24:15 PM »
the airlines who barely have KSML screw it up for me, like Egyptair, they took it out of the outer wrapping and heated it with just the foil

Bedeved that is no issue, so I ate it.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1405 on: January 01, 2018, 01:26:09 PM »
Had the issue on VS J LHR-NYC, completely screwed up my Hermolis meal. (They plated it in the kitchen)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1406 on: January 01, 2018, 02:35:43 PM »
My Hermolis meal came plated.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1407 on: January 01, 2018, 02:37:40 PM »
My Hermolis meal came plated.
On what airline?
Came double sealed on a plate?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1408 on: January 01, 2018, 05:12:02 PM »
Wow.
How does the plating work though?
The new plates are double sealed with hechsher and then heated. I insisted they plate it in-front of me at my seat. Cant trust them otherwise. The plate and food were unwrapped at seat- They obliged with a smile.
They had two main choices per customer stake or lamb chops.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1409 on: January 01, 2018, 05:24:14 PM »
LH has done it to me.
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I bought my own hermolis and explained them 5 times IT MUST NOT BE OPENED. Told them its manufactured for the airline oven. They argued it was a fire hazard. I showed them the UK safety stamp and they decided to ask the pilot! They returned with the OK! I warned them again that if opened I can't eat it. Guess what - half an hour later they bring it hot and OPENED!!! I was starved -hadn't eaten all day. Bloody Germans.

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1410 on: January 01, 2018, 06:05:12 PM »
On what airline?
Came double sealed on a plate?
Yes came double sealed in a plate. I remember having an issue as one of the wraps were melted... Was BA F LHR-JFK IIRC.
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1411 on: January 01, 2018, 06:23:02 PM »
On AA LAX-LIH with BYOK the FA bought the meal to my wife and ask her to check if it's warm enough, as usually he peaks in but he is from Brooklyn and know not to open the kosher ones

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American to offer KSML on domestic first
« Reply #1413 on: January 08, 2018, 10:03:05 AM »
HT: Lucky

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What heschsher is my airline meal? Wiki?
« Reply #1414 on: January 11, 2018, 05:59:31 PM »
Can someone advise, I think it will be helpful to start a thread and maybe even a wiki with what hechsher the KSML is on different airlines. Also different routes we get different types of KSML also. 

Ex. BA- LHR - NY- You normally get a Kidasiah Hechser, but BA NY- LHR sometimes you get Borensteins which have a OU Glatt on it.

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Re: What heschsher is my airline meal? Wiki?
« Reply #1415 on: January 11, 2018, 06:05:03 PM »
Can someone advise, I think it will be helpful to start a thread and maybe even a wiki with what hechsher the KSML is on different airlines. Also different routes we get different types of KSML also. 

Ex. BA- LHR - NY- You normally get a Kidasiah Hechser, but BA NY- LHR sometimes you get Borensteins which have a OU Glatt on it.
There’s a thread about that: http://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=24510.0

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1416 on: January 15, 2018, 01:06:05 AM »
Great news - http://theforwardcabin.com/2018/01/07/american-expands-special-meal-program-to-domestic-flights/

Anyone have personal experience with this on AA? flying EWR-MIA on Sunday in first wondering if it qualifies it won't let me select it online.... (It has the option but doesn't work when you click on it)

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1417 on: January 15, 2018, 01:08:03 AM »
Anyone have personal experience with this on AA? flying EWR-MIA on Sunday in first wondering if it qualifies it won't let me select it online.... (It has the option but doesn't work when you click on it)
PUTPAC?
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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1418 on: January 15, 2018, 01:15:03 AM »
PUTPAC?

Did they said its not offered

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Re: KSML (Kosher Airline Meals) Master Thread
« Reply #1419 on: January 15, 2018, 01:20:01 AM »
Did they said its not offered

Actually tried 3 times but no luck (Not that I want it anyway)... Just curious has anyone had any experience with the fresh fruit platter my guess is that there are some halachic issues there....