Car Lease Master Thread

[mrsmee89]

Does anyone have any experience leasing an older model car? Can I expect significant savings? Any downsides? Looking for as much info as possible.

Thank you!

[efflpetzel]

KIA OPTIMA EX BLOWOUT $169 Tax inc 24 month lease
12k miles /LEATHER /push to start/backup camera/heated seats/power seats/heated steering wheel - call/text Platinum Auto Lease
7187577312

Seems like a great price

[noturbizniss]

KIA OPTIMA EX BLOWOUT $169 Tax inc 24 month lease
12k miles /LEATHER /push to start/backup camera/heated seats/power seats/heated steering wheel - call/text Platinum Auto Lease
7187577312

Seems like a great price

What's down payment?

[dovy2]

When leasing a car from one of the local frum companies (PAL, LD, WTL etc.), are they considered the "dealer" or are they only a "broker"?

case in question: we were talked into leasing the new minivan, and the transmission broke within the first 2 months.
We got really horrible customer service  from the Jewish company we leased from - them claiming that they have nothing to do with the car they leased us, and we need to deal with the company who made the car.

While speaking with lawyers, seems that the "dealer" is at fault under the NYS lemon law, which leads to my question

[sillypainter]

When leasing a car from one of the local frum companies (PAL, LD, WTL etc.), are they considered the "dealer" or are they only a "broker"?

case in question: we were talked into leasing the new minivan, and the transmission broke within the first 2 months.
We got really horrible customer service  from the Jewish company we leased from - them claiming that they have nothing to do with the car they leased us, and we need to deal with the company who made the car.

While speaking with lawyers, seems that the "dealer" is at fault under the NYS lemon law, which leads to my question

Every broker has an underlying dealer. See in your contract the name of the dealer.

[Abebee]

When leasing a car from one of the local frum companies (PAL, LD, WTL etc.), are they considered the "dealer" or are they only a "broker"?

case in question: we were talked into leasing the new minivan, and the transmission broke within the first 2 months.
We got really horrible customer service  from the Jewish company we leased from - them claiming that they have nothing to do with the car they leased us, and we need to deal with the company who made the car.

While speaking with lawyers, seems that the "dealer" is at fault under the NYS lemon law, which leads to my question

The Leasing companies are brokers not dealers. As you may notice you pay every month straight to Honda, Toyota etc... They are the dealers (side note most leasing companies will help you out with a problem, but not all will. Really depends on your relationship with them)

[thaber]

When leasing a car from one of the local frum companies (PAL, LD, WTL etc.), are they considered the "dealer" or are they only a "broker"?

case in question: we were talked into leasing the new minivan, and the transmission broke within the first 2 months.
We got really horrible customer service  from the Jewish company we leased from - them claiming that they have nothing to do with the car they leased us, and we need to deal with the company who made the car.

While speaking with lawyers, seems that the "dealer" is at fault under the NYS lemon law, which leads to my question

frum leasing companies are not dealers. they are facilitators. that's why there are no non frum ones. Everyone else leases from the dealership, the frum guys shop around dealerships, make deals with them etc. and then put it together for you. if you look at your paperwork you're leasing from a dealer, not xxx leasing company. their name is not there anywhere.
Now, it might be a legitimate argument that they can't get the rebate on your behalf, but that's what they're doing.

Well not all are licensed, but Wheels to Lease and PAL are both license dealers and have DMV licenses.

[fresar]

When leasing a car from one of the local frum companies (PAL, LD, WTL etc.), are they considered the "dealer" or are they only a "broker"?

case in question: we were talked into leasing the new minivan, and the transmission broke within the first 2 months.
We got really horrible customer service  from the Jewish company we leased from - them claiming that they have nothing to do with the car they leased us, and we need to deal with the company who made the car.

While speaking with lawyers, seems that the "dealer" is at fault under the NYS lemon law, which leads to my question

they are a broker, any dealer will fix it, you are under the warranty. no lawyers, courts, police etc need to be involved
. its that simple 

[mgarfin]

they are a broker, any dealer will fix it, you are under the warranty. no lawyers, courts, police etc need to be involved
. its that simple

I believe his frustration is purchasing a new vehicle and needing to repair it right away. For any small electronics you just return and get a brand new one but by bigger things it doesn't work this way.
It is a very bad feeling but not sure there is a way around.

[cozmohoot]

Just another reason not only to look at the price of the lease. Who you get it from matters. Service counts

[dovy2]

thanks for all the replies.
Dealing with the MFR is a complete disaster.. it's crazy to get a brand new minivan which is defective

[hduke1]

Willing to do a lease takeover if anyone is interested. I have a 2016 MB GLA 250. 7000 miles.
I'm in NY

Thanks
Duke

[elya]

Willing to do a lease takeover if anyone is interested. I have a 2016 MB GLA 250. 7000 miles.
I'm in NY

Thanks
Duke

Monthly payment?

[syp5]

March 2017 Lease Specials!!

All taxes, fees, motor vehicle, and 1st Month Payment Included!

*Based on NJ Tax and having a Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Nissan, Subaru, Kia, Mitsubishi or Mazda lease in household.

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2017 Chevrolet Cruze       LS/LT:           $1395 down, $89/month, 10k miles/year
                                        LT + Conv Pkg   $1395 down, $109/month, 10k miles/year
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2017 Chevrolet Malibu      LT:                $1395 down, $179/month,  10k miles/year
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2017 Chevrolet Traverse     AWD LS:     $1395 down, $209/month,  10k miles/year
  -8 Passenger                  FWD LT:     $1395 down, $249/month,  10k miles/year
  -7 Passenger                 AWD LT:     $1395 down, $279/month,  10k miles/year
  -7 Passenger
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*12K miles/year:  +$10/month
*15k miles/year:   +$25/month

PM for sales contact

[syp5]

           March 2017 specials; updated with Cruze LS option

-Use your GM Credit Card points toward your lease as well!

All taxes, fees, motor vehicle, and 1st Month Payment Included!

*Based on NJ Tax and having a Toyota, Honda, Hyundai, Nissan, Subaru, Kia, Mitsubishi or Mazda lease in household.

  $25 Amazon, Home Depot, or Visa gift card with any purchase or lease!
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2017 Chevrolet Cruze    LS:                   $1395 down, $79/month, 10m miles/year
                                     LT:                    $1395 down, $89/month, 10k miles/year
                                     LT + Conv Pkg   $1395 down, $109/month, 10k miles/year
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2017 Chevrolet Malibu   LT:                 $1395 down, $179/month,  10k miles/year
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                   2017 Chevrolet Traverse       
 AWD LS:    $1395 down, $209/month,  10k miles/year -8 Passenger
 FWD LT:     $1395 down, $249/month,  10k miles/year  -7 Passenger
 AWD LT:     $1395 down, $279/month,  10k miles/year -7 Passenger
 
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*12K miles/year:  +$10/month
*15k miles/year:   +$25/month

PM for sales contact

[aryeh1]

Got charged a hefty disposition fee after returning my car, leasing company never mentioned this fee at the time of leasing.

Would this affect my credit not paying it? As they already closed off my account as paid in full.

[sammy n]

Got charged a hefty disposition fee after returning my car, leasing company never mentioned this fee at the time of leasing.

Would this affect my credit not paying it? As they already closed off my account as paid in full.

How much was it?

[aryeh1]

How much was it?

380

[mendy from lakewood]

380

pretty normal I think most companies charge that unless you get a new lease from them then they will waive ut

[aryeh1]

pretty normal I think most companies charge that unless you get a new lease from them then they will waive ut

Officially they waive it if its the 3rd or more lease from them in household but seems they don't want to budge.