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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #90 on: May 21, 2012, 06:22:07 PM »
Terrible pizza and empanadas IMHO (though in fairness the empanadas seemed spoiled  :P, but the ravioli and gnocci with the red pesto sauce were good.

What are alfajores?  Is that a dulce-de-leche pastry?

Argentinos l-o-v-e alfajores!  Don't ask me why.

It's sort of like a soft cookie with dolce de leiche in between -sandwich. There are a few Cholov Yisroel companies.  Every local will tell you another company they think makes the best alfajores...

Too sweet for my tooth.

Isn't it cool that you can pick up Empanada's with beef for the equivalent of a dollar?
There's a kosher supermarket with 2 bakery's just beside it, in one of those 2 bakery's i remember getting those cheap empanada's.  But then again, that was a few years back, when i visited Argentina.

Went to the Kosher McDonalds?  Their burgers are not bad.. What'd you think?

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #91 on: May 21, 2012, 07:53:37 PM »
Best place I found to trade money is the judaica store on Paso across from Soultani Pizza.
5.4 ARS per USD compared to the bank rate of 4.46.
Anyone know of a better place?
And out of curiosity, what does it cost for an Argentinian to buy dollars?  It seems they really want to keep dollars out of Argentinians hands.  Sounds like they're ready for a repeat of the crash from a decade ago.
if a argentinian wants to buy dollars they have to go to the bank and fill out a whole form about yourself and what you do for a living, later they hunt you down how come you have so much money and dont report it...
i guess its worth the judaica store the extra peso..

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #92 on: May 23, 2012, 01:01:06 AM »
Not sure if I wanna stay at the Park Hyatt in BA (it is alot of points) anyone know anything about Abasto Hotel? I can get an upgraded room with balcony and whirlpool for 133 a night for Fri thru Sunday when I want to be in the jewish area. Rest of the time gonna stick to starwood I think.

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #93 on: May 23, 2012, 04:54:42 PM »
are there any decent hotels walking distance to the jewish area? I prefer starwood properties but read earlier in the thread that they are far and I would pay more for location,

Not sure if I wanna stay at the Park Hyatt in BA (it is alot of points) anyone know anything about Abasto Hotel? I can get an upgraded room with balcony and whirlpool for 133 a night for Fri thru Sunday when I want to be in the jewish area. Rest of the time gonna stick to starwood I think.

If you prefer Starwood properties, you can consider the Park Tower. I don't know what your idea of "walking distance" is, but the hotel is about 2.2 km (1.36 miles) from Chabad of Recoleta.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=park+tower+buenos+aires&daddr=Ayacucho+1416&geocode=Fd4j8P0dvUiF_CEuqXZr0OXnIilBHYwTtcq8lTEYFudeMJqZdA%3BFe4o8P0dY_eE_CmnOhNfvcq8lTGaRWLsPd092g&aq=&sll=-34.590683,-58.386197&sspn=0.025543,0.038409&vpsrc=0&hl=en&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&mra=luc&ie=UTF8&t=m&z=15&layer=c&ei=lE29T8XhA4W68gbfuaiSCg&pw=2

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #94 on: May 23, 2012, 11:02:53 PM »
If you prefer Starwood properties, you can consider the Park Tower. I don't know what your idea of "walking distance" is, but the hotel is about 2.2 km (1.36 miles) from Chabad of Recoleta.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=park+tower+buenos+aires&daddr=Ayacucho+1416&geocode=Fd4j8P0dvUiF_CEuqXZr0OXnIilBHYwTtcq8lTEYFudeMJqZdA%3BFe4o8P0dY_eE_CmnOhNfvcq8lTGaRWLsPd092g&aq=&sll=-34.590683,-58.386197&sspn=0.025543,0.038409&vpsrc=0&hl=en&dirflg=w&doflg=ptm&mra=luc&ie=UTF8&t=m&z=15&layer=c&ei=lE29T8XhA4W68gbfuaiSCg&pw=2
thanks for helping me out there with the map. Certainly an option and the hotel looks nice. Any clue how it compares with Abasto Hotel?

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #95 on: May 23, 2012, 11:07:42 PM »
Uch, I wouldn't recommend staying in Abasto/Once.
Find a place in Recoleta.
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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #96 on: May 23, 2012, 11:10:51 PM »
Uch, I wouldn't recommend staying in Abasto/Once.
Find a place in Recoleta.
Is there a chabad with meals or something of the sort for Shabbos in that area? I was thinking of splitting my stay in half with just Shabbos in Abasto for meals but if it is nasty would not wanna ruin my only Shabbos there.

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #97 on: May 24, 2012, 02:25:05 AM »
Is there a chabad with meals or something of the sort for Shabbos in that area? I was thinking of splitting my stay in half with just Shabbos in Abasto for meals but if it is nasty would not wanna ruin my only Shabbos there.
Having spent one Shabbos in Buenos Aires, I highlly recommend staying in the Jewish area (for Shabbos that is).  I don't know why you venture out to other countries, but assuming that it's for the purpose of sightseeing as well as seeing other Yiddishe Kehillos around the world, why would you squander away a Shabbos in middle of ...idk where...

It was for me at least, a truly interesting experience seeing such a vibrant Kehilla and checking out the different shuls etc.., something which can't really be seen/felt any other time besides Shabbos/Yo"t.

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #98 on: May 24, 2012, 09:10:27 AM »
Having spent one Shabbos in Buenos Aires, I highlly recommend staying in the Jewish area (for Shabbos that is).  I don't know why you venture out to other countries, but assuming that it's for the purpose of sightseeing as well as seeing other Yiddishe Kehillos around the world, why would you squander away a Shabbos in middle of ...idk where...

It was for me at least, a truly interesting experience seeing such a vibrant Kehilla and checking out the different shuls etc.., something which can't really be seen/felt any other time besides Shabbos/Yo"t.

"Just sayin' "!
I agree with you I just have no clue where the Jewish area is aside from there being food in Abasto and a chabad in Recoleta which Dan mentioned. Where would you reccomend spending Shabbos? I am now trying to find a good hotel in Recoleta.

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #99 on: May 24, 2012, 09:18:55 AM »
Once is the jewish community, Abasto is nearby.  It's one of the more run down/dirty/dangerous sections of the city, especially at night.

Funny because in Sao Paulo the jews have all moved to the nicest/safest section of the city but I guess that just didn't happen in Argentina.


I do understand wanting to be near Once for shabbos, so if you don't mind switching hotels it's not a bad idea.
I would recommend buying Hyatt nights/points off someone.
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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #100 on: May 25, 2012, 02:30:02 AM »
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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #101 on: May 25, 2012, 03:06:49 AM »
Wow Dan awesome trip report!! I love the detail you put into it, thank you so much.

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #102 on: May 25, 2012, 06:33:27 AM »
I agree with you I just have no clue where the Jewish area is aside from there being food in Abasto and a chabad in Recoleta which Dan mentioned. Where would you reccomend spending Shabbos? I am now trying to find a good hotel in Recoleta.
Sorry, haven't the slightest clue.  Was there a few years ago.. barely remember.

But I do happen to remember Shabbos as a highlight.. Seeing these huge shul's with a tremendous amount of mispalelim etc..

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #103 on: May 25, 2012, 07:05:52 AM »
Once is the jewish community, Abasto is nearby.  It's one of the more run down/dirty/dangerous sections of the city, especially at night.

Funny because in Sao Paulo the jews have all moved to the nicest/safest section of the city but I guess that just didn't happen in Argentina.


I do understand wanting to be near Once for shabbos, so if you don't mind switching hotels it's not a bad idea.
I would recommend buying Hyatt nights/points off someone.

Interesting you mention that, b/c if you ask some of the frum people who currently reside in SP, and are not rolling in dough, they'll tell you how they're $truggling to keep up.. Jardins is one of THE most expensive areas (think Rua Osacr Freire and Paulista), and yet for some odd reason, these large frum families are expected to live there(?!).

Imagine if the standard for the Frum family in NYC was to live on the upper east side!

Bom Retiro may be dangerous, but at least they can somewhat afford it (not even)..

I don't know if you spent some time at all talking to locals in BA, but the parnasa matzav there (from what i hear) keeps on getting worse and worse (living in "once" not withstanding!).  People are struggling.. They really need lots of Tzedoko there, hope you contributed some   ;D

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Re: Argentina Master Thread
« Reply #104 on: May 25, 2012, 10:09:55 AM »
Interesting you mention that, b/c if you ask some of the frum people who currently reside in SP, and are not rolling in dough, they'll tell you how they're $truggling to keep up.. Jardins is one of THE most expensive areas (think Rua Osacr Freire and Paulista), and yet for some odd reason, these large frum families are expected to live there(?!).

Imagine if the standard for the Frum family in NYC was to live on the upper east side!

Bom Retiro may be dangerous, but at least they can somewhat afford it (not even)..

I don't know if you spent some time at all talking to locals in BA, but the parnasa matzav there (from what i hear) keeps on getting worse and worse (living in "once" not withstanding!).  People are struggling.. They really need lots of Tzedoko there, hope you contributed some   ;D
Nobody forced people to move from Bom Retiro to Jardins.  People want to live in a neighborhood where you can walk outside at night without the feat of being murdered.

If your choice of neighborhoods was Harlem and the UES I think most people would scrap together the extra savings to live in the UES to be safe.  Luckily in the US there are more options, but those are the 2 primary jewish communities in SP and nobody wants to be the last one standing in Bom Retiro.

Due to having a baby and there benig no eruv in BA I admit to not getting to know the primary BA jewish community at all (except for the interesting Chabad of Recoleta), but in Brazil while plenty of people are struggling they still have a standard of living that is extremely high, much higher than those struggling in NYC IMHO.  I mean even the poorest of families have 1 or 2 live-in maids that spoil the Brazilian kids and parents to no end, and they all eat like kings as food and labor are cheap.
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