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The Basics:

You can send up to $1,000/month directly from your CCs or GCs, and receive the same amount, which can then be withdrawn to your bank account. (No, you don't withdraw the money to your CC or GC.) These limits reset on the 1st of the calendar month at 12am Pacific Time.

Setup:

1. Although AP requires a SSN, you will not get a hard pull against your credit. You will not get a 1099-K unless you are receiving over $20k per year AND have done 200 transactions.

2. The driver's license number on the account need not be a real number, only the same format.

3. You need to connect and verify a bank account to be able to send $1,000/month. Otherwise, only $500 will be allowed. (Also, you will have difficulty withdrawing money to your bank account if it is not connected to your account.)

4. Verification can sometimes be instant if you log into your bank account through Amazon, but sometimes (particularly with smaller banks or CUs, it seems) the only working option is to allow AP to make two small deposits to you account (less than a dollar, often much less) and then reporting the exact amounts thereby verifying that the account is yours. (If you want to use AP as described here, don't even think about trying to profit from the small deposits by opening up a ton of accounts. You have been warned.)

5. The receiver account must add a credit card to be able to capture the funds sent.

Sending Money

1. Make sure to select "Goods and Services" when sending money. This is important so that the transaction codes as a purchase (for which you will get CC points/miles) and not a cash advance (for which you will not).

2. For some reason, when sending the value from GCs, AP will often prevent the full value from being sent unless, when connecting the GC with your account, you first enter the wrong expiration date and then change it to the correct one. <blinkblink>... <shrug>... but it works.  Or wait a week after putting the GC into your account for the hold to be removed from the funds.

3. And no, Amazon Gift Card balance cannot be used with Amazon Payments.

Multiple accounts:

1. It is highly recommended not to access both accounts of a transaction from the same IP address. Please see the IP Information section below for more... IP Information.

2. Most people didn't have problems opening two accounts per SSN even if they link to the same bank account, but it is risky to send money back and forth between them. Some report a similar risk with sending or receiving with a spouse who has the same bank account linked to their account.

3. Sending money using the same CC from different accounts is a known cause of shutdown.

Error messages and potential delays

1. If you get a message stating "We are unable to complete your transaction until further review. It can take up to 24 hours to complete this transaction. We apologize for any inconvenience this delay may cause," relax and be patient. It is perfectly normal.

2. Withdrawals are never authorized immediately. Be patient. It usually doesn't even take a full day. Likewise it's perfectly normal for you to get a message that your withdrawal has succeeded but it doesn't show up in your bank account yet even as pending. It will be there soon. Be patient.

3. Verifying a bank account via the deposit method can take a few days. Please anticipate and account for the extra time needed for the deposit method if you are planning to set up and use an account for the first time late in the month.

IP Information:

1. To check the IP address of the device you're using, Google "how to check my IP address"

2. All devices using the same WiFi router have the same IP address.

3. A computer connected to the Internet with a router has a different IP than it does if connected to the Internet without a router.

4. Browsing incognito or in private mode does not change your IP address.

5. To change the IP address of a computer, turn off the computer, wait a few minutes, then turn it back on. Check if you have a new IP address. If not, turn it off for 8+ hours (overnight or something) and check again. You will likely have a new IP address.

6. On a phone or other device (with it's own data) switch WiFi off. To change IP addresses, switch to 'airplane mode' and switch back and you will usually have a new IP address. Note: If your phone or tablet has WiFi only, it will always have the same IP address as other devices that connect through the same WiFi.


PBaruch's suggestions:

1. It is no longer generally considered safe to have multiple AP accounts for the same person.  Yes, there are exceptions and some people have had luck but I would caution against it.  If you are the reckless type go to number 2 below.  If not, please proceed to number 3 below.

2. If you do decide to try your luck and open 2 or more AP accounts for the same person, do not send $ back and forth between these two accounts.

3. Do not send $ back and forth between people in the same household.  Again, there are exceptions and some people have had luck but it is a trigger for a shutdown.  The way AP views it is if you are in the same household, give em cash. 

4. If there are multiple AP users in the same household, do NOT use the same IP address.  If you do, be warned.  You will very likely be shut down.

5. If you are shut down, you may have luck reopening your AP account by varying the spelling of your name and changing your address. 

6. If you want to send $ to a spouse, it helps if he/she has a different last name and address.

7. I would caution against any complete circles or triangles.  For instance, do not send A-B-C-A.  Rather, send A-B-C-D.

8. If you need bank accounts to link to AP, it is VERY easy to open multiple accounts (with no fee) by using Capitol One 360: https://home.capitalone360.com/ (Be aware that this is likely a hard pull.)

9. Do NOT do instant account verification. Let them send deposits instead to verify the account.  By doing so, I do not believe that they know who owns the account. This may be useful if you use some of my other suggestions.

These are my suggestions based upon personal experience and my gleaning of other posts.

Poll

Were you shut down?

Yes, but i got it back! :)
7 (2.9%)
Yes. :(
55 (22.5%)
No, B"H!  :)
149 (61.1%)
Yes and No (I have more then 1 account)
33 (13.5%)

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #240 on: October 24, 2011, 05:25:08 PM »
Same as Paypal, more or less, IME (typically 1-3 business days, but sometimes as long as 5)
Same by me, usually 1 or 2 business days.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #241 on: October 24, 2011, 05:52:59 PM »
Same as Paypal, more or less, IME (typically 1-3 business days, but sometimes as long as 5)

Definitely faster then PayPal. Usually 1-2 business days.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #242 on: October 24, 2011, 06:50:22 PM »
Definitely faster then PayPal. Usually 1-2 business days.

+1, I get it most times overnight.
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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #243 on: October 25, 2011, 03:13:14 PM »
thanks for all i got it overnight

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #244 on: November 03, 2011, 04:51:03 PM »
Does this still work? I talked to a amazon.com rep and asked if i could use a credit card to send my roommate rent money and he said no.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #245 on: November 03, 2011, 05:02:08 PM »
Does this still work? I talked to a amazon.com rep and asked if i could use a credit card to send my roommate rent money and he said no.
Clueless rep?

https://payments.amazon.com/

Sign up.  Send money.  Zero fees. 

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #246 on: November 03, 2011, 05:07:09 PM »
Clueless rep?

https://payments.amazon.com/

Sign up.  Send money.  Zero fees.

Even with personal accounts?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #247 on: November 03, 2011, 05:09:41 PM »
Even with personal accounts?

Correct. (Up to $1000 in and out a month).

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #248 on: November 03, 2011, 05:17:17 PM »
Correct. (Up to $1000 in and out a month).

Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #249 on: November 03, 2011, 05:20:01 PM »
Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?
You have the option of choosing a cash advance or payment for goods, it depends what you chose there. I have used a few diff. chase cards but not sapphire.

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #250 on: November 03, 2011, 07:44:40 PM »
Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?
I guess maybe i shouldn't be advertising this but i met the 5000 spend limit on the Chase Ink Bold in about 12 hours(10/31-11/1)
i always use different accounts amazon and checking and different amounts adding up to 1000 on each account
and it processed as a regular  charge
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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #251 on: November 03, 2011, 07:54:41 PM »
Has anyone with a chase card (specifically asking about chase sapphire preferred) made sure it's a charge and not a cash advance?
i had no problem with my saphire preferred on 3-4 occasions

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #252 on: November 03, 2011, 08:16:44 PM »
I guess maybe i shouldn't be advertising this but i met the 5000 spend limit on the Chase Ink Bold in about 12 hours(10/31-11/1)
i always use different accounts amazon and checking and different amounts adding up to 1000 on each account
and it processed as a regular  charge
You use a different checking account for each Amazon acct?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #253 on: November 03, 2011, 11:02:50 PM »
I guess maybe i shouldn't be advertising this

On the contrary, you should be advertising this.  We're all about seeing what works and what does not work for other forum members. 

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #254 on: November 04, 2011, 12:20:08 AM »
You use a different checking account for each Amazon acct?
3 amazon accounts 3 checking accounts

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #255 on: November 04, 2011, 12:25:01 AM »
3 amazon accounts 3 checking accounts

Different names on each checking account?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #256 on: November 04, 2011, 12:25:45 AM »
nope

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #257 on: November 04, 2011, 12:26:39 AM »
nope

login to all of them from the same ip? how long have you been doing this for?

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #258 on: November 04, 2011, 12:29:30 AM »
and it processed as a regular  charge
see screen shot deff. a regular charge

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Re: Earn miles/points with Amazon payments using a credit card
« Reply #259 on: November 06, 2011, 04:02:01 PM »
Is it possible to link a savings account? or just checking?