Author Topic: Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread  (Read 343107 times)

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Liqour/Whiskey/Bourbon Master Thread
« on: July 17, 2008, 02:48:20 AM »
im not talking about the sherry casks problem (from looking in the shulchan aruch IMO its not a problem) the problem is that till 2000 it was owned by the bronfman fam and therefore be chometz shovar aleho es hapesach if they did not sell their cometz. i emailed the ou and they say that no chametz was sold to them (i had heard rumors that it was sold to the ou so i was just checking)

anyone have any input on this?   
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #1 on: July 17, 2008, 06:17:53 AM »
interesting question. however on all of the kashrus websites in the liquor lists they dont say that its not recommended

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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #2 on: July 17, 2008, 11:48:37 AM »
According to the CRC (Chicago Rabbinical Council) Glenlivet is kosher:

http://www.crcweb.org/kosher/consumer/liq.%20list%20r.pdf

It lists Gelnlivet 12, 15, 16 (Nadura), 18, and 21.
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2008, 02:39:12 PM »
According to the CRC (Chicago Rabbinical Council) Glenlivet is kosher:

http://www.crcweb.org/kosher/consumer/liq.%20list%20r.pdf

It lists Gelnlivet 12, 15, 16 (Nadura), 18, and 21.

thanks for the link to the crc i gave them a call and they said that this had been looked in to before and the bottom line is that its fine (they said they don't remember why but it was a logical reason)
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2008, 08:46:14 PM »
The cRc are good people

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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2008, 09:17:31 PM »
I dont get a kudos for that?
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2008, 11:04:45 PM »
You def do but y do you call the cRc opposed to the ou or star k....?

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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2008, 04:30:37 PM »
phew!!! you scared me there!!

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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2008, 10:12:52 PM »
Interesting that they note that Macallen Scotch and Balvanie 12 year doublewood Scotch
is NOT recommended. as far as i always knew that Macallen was Kosher.

Thanx for making me aware of this.

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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2008, 10:16:57 PM »
Interesting that they note that Macallen Scotch and Balvanie 12 year doublewood Scotch
is NOT recommended. as far as i always knew that Macallen was Kosher.

Thanx for making me aware of this.
Macallan has always NOT been recommended since it is made in Sherry casks.
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2008, 10:27:01 PM »
You def do but y do you call the cRc opposed to the ou or star k....?
The CRC has a list that is posted online.

The others dont (AFAIK)
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2008, 12:18:51 AM »
Macallan has always NOT been recommended since it is made in Sherry casks.

sherry casks is not a problem. if you look in the shulchan oruch (i dont have it in front of me but if you want i will find it for you) it is only nosen ta'am lshvach for wine. for any other liquid wine in the walls of the barrel is nosen ta'am lifgam. when i learnt smicha i was told this clearly by the rosh machon smicha
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2008, 04:05:39 AM »
sherry casks is not a problem. if you look in the shulchan oruch (i dont have it in front of me but if you want i will find it for you) it is only nosen ta'am lshvach for wine. for any other liquid wine in the walls of the barrel is nosen ta'am lifgam. when i learnt smicha i was told this clearly by the rosh machon smicha
i think that there are prominant poskim who permit sherry casks
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2008, 09:34:06 AM »
i think that there are prominant poskim who permit sherry casks
Im sure there are.

But most hashgochas do not allow it due to many poskim who classify it in "questionable" status (or worse).

My personal feeling is- where there is so much variety of other great scotches to buy, as there is nowadays, why do we need to even consider something that some deem potentially problematic?
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2008, 10:33:44 AM »
My personal feeling is- where there is so much variety of other great scotches to buy, as there is nowadays, why do we need to even consider something that some deem potentially problematic?

Exactly, and besides Glenlivet Nadurra is kosher-what else do you need?  ;D
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #15 on: July 22, 2008, 11:24:51 AM »
Exactly, and besides Glenlivet Nadurra is kosher-what else do you need?  ;D
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #16 on: July 22, 2008, 06:07:59 PM »
sherry casks is not a problem. if you look in the shulchan oruch (i dont have it in front of me but if you want i will find it for you) it is only nosen ta'am lshvach for wine. for any other liquid wine in the walls of the barrel is nosen ta'am lifgam. when i learnt smicha i was told this clearly by the rosh machon smicha

the problem with this is, is that many scotch experts themselves argue whether or not it is noisain taam lshvach or is it just raicha, which would not be a problem. It is definately not clear whether it is noisain taam lfgam or not. Therefore most authorities say "not recommended" and some will say not allowed if made with sherry casks. I'd ask a rav for particulars...YMMV

(besides why risk it if there are plenty of good scotches on the crc list that are acceptable and quite tasty... i hope i dont get flamed for this)

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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #17 on: July 22, 2008, 06:14:00 PM »


(besides why risk it if there are plenty of good scotches on the crc list that are acceptable and quite tasty... i hope i dont get flamed for this)
Thats exactly what I said!
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #18 on: July 22, 2008, 08:42:15 PM »
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Re: is glenlivet kosher?
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2008, 12:58:50 PM »
Just stick with vodka :-)
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