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https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/

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http://podcast.headlinesbook.com/e/31616-credit-card-miles-and-points-swiping-for-rewards-buying-and-selling-miles-is-it-assur-and-a-chillul-hashem-or-a-great-way-for-a-side-parnassah/



BEFORE SWIPING FOR SOMEONE READ THIS: (first hand story)

https://forums.dansdeals.com/index.php?topic=36812.msg2062371#msg2062371
https://www.dansdeals.com/more/dans-commentary/dark-side-earning-credit-card-points-psa-dont-swipe-others/#comment-1399884


Dan's warning to DDF:
I hope people realize that any buying group or anyone else that gets merchandise in advance of payment can go south at any time. That's even if you get a check at the time of delivery.
X-posting as I don't want anyone to say that I never put a warning here.

A story that ended up in court - https://iapps.courts.state.ny.us/nyscef/DocumentList?docketId=iRcRHuyZUdOIx69D00a5XQ==&display=all&courtType=Kings%20County%20Supreme%20Court&resultsPageNum=1


I am one of the biggest buyers for buying groups, I have done millions in transactions and have sent to every group there is over the past 3 years. Most buying groups are okay, some scan in slower than others, some pay slower than others - most will lose a few packages over the year. You can research and find which are better for you.

However there is a bigger problem now with Amazon itself.  Amazon in the past has been great with any problems always ready with a refund for lost packages even if it was thousands of dollars. Lately Amazon has clamped down and has tagged these buying groups addresses  in their systems as "freight forwarder" and now no longer will fix any problem you have whatsoever. Doesn't matter what the problem is, even if it shows the package was never delivered, amazon will not help you in any way. Their copy and paste response will always be "this item was sent to a freight forwarder and we're unable to replace or refund the item. We recommend contacting your freight forwarder for more details, as we don't have any more insight or information regarding this matter, For more information about sending items via freight forwarders, please visit our Help Pages: https://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201117950." As well the amazon drivers either must know this or have been increasingly bad at delivering packages because the numbers of packages missing has gone up astronomically. Previously you would have very few packages missing, now the past 3 months I have had 59 "lost" packages. I now have over $15,000 of loses and some guy in Delaware is probably living the life with all the stuff he stole from me. I will survive, I have made a lot more than $15,000 over the years however just a warning to others here that things are not as they used to be and it really is no longer worth doing buring groups with all the loses piling up

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #120 on: January 07, 2014, 08:09:50 AM »
so its not anti semitism when they go after a whole Jewish community
you know that people who signed up through these ads were f/red or are you just assuming?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #121 on: January 07, 2014, 08:23:57 AM »
F/Red or not. It doesn't matter.
This guy is doing something not kosher. people should stay away.
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #122 on: January 07, 2014, 11:38:23 AM »
you know that people who signed up through these ads were f/red or are you just assuming?
I was just referring to the guy that "said talk about s big target on Lakewood"

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #123 on: January 07, 2014, 11:50:40 AM »
Someone explain to me, what's the kuntz? How do they make money? If they are giving the "100k" (I assume points) to the shul? Do they charge? I don't get how their scheme works. Or are they stam identity thieves?

I just want to understand the game they're playing.

Also, how the heck are they getting 100k MRs from any Amex bonus available today? I know of no such bonus. Not even close.

Please explain to me. This stuff is like my version of watching Law and Order.
Its 100K$$$!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #124 on: January 07, 2014, 12:16:14 PM »
Guys (some of you), you don't know everything. Those who know know and it's not the right forum to discuss this in detail.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #125 on: January 07, 2014, 12:17:05 PM »
Its 100K$$$!

Makes no sense. How does it work?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #126 on: January 07, 2014, 03:33:06 PM »
F/Red or not. It doesn't matter.
This guy is doing something not kosher. people should stay away.
you think it's not kosher to do a fully refundable ticket?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #127 on: January 07, 2014, 04:02:36 PM »
you think it's not kosher to do a fully refundable ticket?
Are you that guy?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #128 on: January 07, 2014, 04:05:54 PM »
Someone please explain the scheme to me!!!!

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #129 on: January 07, 2014, 04:29:03 PM »
Someone please explain the scheme to me!!!!

Don't get so excited.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #130 on: January 07, 2014, 04:29:56 PM »
Don't get so excited.

I take back two of my three exclamation points.

Can you, pretty please with sugar on top, explain to me how the scheme works?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #131 on: January 07, 2014, 04:36:02 PM »
Can someone post  copy of the ad for the non-lakewood Jews
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #132 on: January 07, 2014, 04:37:30 PM »
What goes on in 08701 stays in 08701.  :o :o :-X :-X

Not everything has to be posted on DDF.  :o :o
siyag lachachma :-)

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #133 on: January 07, 2014, 04:39:22 PM »
What goes on in 08701 stays in 08701.  :o :o :-X :-X

Not everything has to be posted on DDF.  :o :o

It's also in BP. Maybe not same guy.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #134 on: January 07, 2014, 04:45:03 PM »
What goes on in 08701 stays in 08701.  :o :o :-X :-X

Not everything has to be posted on DDF.  :o :o

Please, PM me? I am soooo curious.

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #135 on: January 07, 2014, 04:45:28 PM »
It's also in BP. Maybe not same guy.
Seen it in Montreal too...

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #136 on: January 07, 2014, 04:53:11 PM »
Also far rockaway

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #137 on: January 07, 2014, 04:57:49 PM »
What the heck? can some1 say whats going on here?

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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #138 on: January 07, 2014, 04:59:13 PM »
What the heck? can some1 say whats going on here?
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Re: PSA: Don't swipe recklessly for others
« Reply #139 on: January 07, 2014, 05:02:16 PM »
+10000 please.... :'(